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[interpreter VO] I've just been noticing

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that my life is just one big echo.

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♪sparse ethereal music♪
Or, rather, maybe just small

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echoes that become one big echo,

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and that's something that's
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since I was born.

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And it has to deal with repetition,

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patterns,

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something that constantly comes up.

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When I work with interpreters,

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I experience repetition.

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Like, whatever I sign, Beth repeats.

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She's echoing me.

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And sign language is full of echoes.

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You can use one hand shape,

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and echo that, repeat that,

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and it just changes the entire

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sign or the entire word based on

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where you put it on your body.

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The shape of the sign for "future,"

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which is two semicircles
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that's the sign for "future,"

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it has a line that you can follow,

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so I drew that line.

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And it's an echo in and of itself.

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And so since it's my ideas,

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it's my work that's being presented,

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and a lot of it does have to do

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with repetition and a lot of it

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is full of echoes,

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I think that is why I want to be

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as clear as possible. [chuckles]

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♪pulsating ethereal music♪
- [Interpreter] I'm DJ Kurs of Deaf West Theater.

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At Deaf West Theater,

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we bridge deaf and hearing
worlds through theater.

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We're advancing visibility
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But I'm jealous of Christine Sun Kim,

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because she does the same thing,

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but on her own.

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She can draw a pie chart on paper

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and have a similar impact.

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Please welcome artist Christine Sun Kim.

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[applause]

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- [Christine] So this
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"I can 100 percent promise that you

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"learning sign language is easier

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"than a deaf person learning to hear"

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is a tweet from a deaf writer,

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and I think that this framing
...is it. [chuckles]

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This is how I want you

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to think about who I am.

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This is my deaf identity,

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and this is where I'm coming from.

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♪sparse piano music♪

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People love to always

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ask why I don't read lips,

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so this is a question I've

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gotten over and over again.

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I love the use of infographics.

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It's this idea, shown visually,

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that can be communicated without barriers.

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It can cross languages,

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it can cross cultures.

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So this is the same old [bleep]

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hearing people say to me.

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And as you can see,

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this is equally distributed because

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people say a lot of [bleep] to me.

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- [Interpreter] They look so good!

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- [Man] Cute!
-[interpreter] [laughs]

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- [Christine] Can you lift yours up more,

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just a smidgen?

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Yes.

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Okay, that's what we want.

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-That one up.
- [Man] This might be low.

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- [Interpreter] She
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- [Man] Okay.

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- [interpreter VO] I am very
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[interpreter] I think that looks good.

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[interpreter VO] I usually work with people,

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whether that's interpreters that

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I'm working with or people who

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are speaking on my behalf.

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I'm used to that.

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I collaborate with my
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and this has been really

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nice because I've been able

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to kind of increase
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- So, we've all grown as artists,

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and lecturers and performers,

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so let's not do that,

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but it's still very easy

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- [interpreter VO] Motherhood has
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It's impacted the way I envision

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and the way I approach art.

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I allow my child to be a
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Sometimes we collaborate on a project.

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Often, I work with musical notation.

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I've really thought about the
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It's not about the notes, necessarily,

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but it's about the
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And I decided to incorporate our family.

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I've done one,

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Tom has done one,

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and Roux has done one.

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When I sat down with Roux

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and I explained the work,

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she created this drawing,

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and then she did another
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and she said to me

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it was a song about family.

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I've lived in Berlin

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now for almost 10 years.

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As an artist, I'm having
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because I feel like

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there's so much less pressure.

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What I've noticed is that being

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a parent doesn't have a dent

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or an impact on my bank

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account almost at all.

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Daycare is free.

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Everything in the city is affordable,

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[chuckles] especially compared to
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or Los Angeles.

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And I also have space to create work.

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So, with all of that,

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I've just found myself recognizing more

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and more the benefits of a government

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that supports their citizens.

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People in Germany aren't in debt.

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I see friends living here
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just to make ends meet,

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and I realize that I'm angry about debt,

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I'm angry that people are living

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like this because I'm not.

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I think about my family, my friends,

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my future, and I'm worried.

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[indistinct chatter]

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- I was so
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Of course I had to call.

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are coming in next week to see your work.

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of the deaf community is that you

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this shared language.

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in the way that they are
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stuck in that echo,

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and I was there for a while.

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and I had to go into

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♪uplifting synth music♪

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I'm always a little bit

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jealous of artists who have

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the privilege to be misunderstood.

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like I need to explain what things mean.

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I have to say, "No, it's
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from a place of how misunderstandings

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can affect my rights,

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all these little things in my daily life,

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as well as navigating access,

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education, entertainment, family.

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Growing up, I loved art,

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but I didn't really take

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classes 'cause there weren't

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interpreters available.

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I remember when I was in high school,

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there was a sculpture class that

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I wanted to take that
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I wanted to work with my hands.

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They said no.

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majoring in graphic design,

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they had a night class

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that I wanted to take.

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and moved to New York,

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it was super crowded,

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and there was hearing people everywhere,

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which wasn't my experience

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growing up in California.

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to constantly communicate with

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these hearing people.

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and I was in people's faces.

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Because of that, I just
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And what I've realized is that

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New York gave me the
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the world fearlessly.

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[mechanical whirring]

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When Hitomi, the curator
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reached out to me and we were

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corresponding back and forth,

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I thought, "How could I come up

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"with an idea without actually

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"physically visiting the Queens Museum?"

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[indistinct chatter]

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she mentioned that Queens

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was the epicenter of COVID for a while,

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and that really struck
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[honking]
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I thought about rest.

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I'm also seeing people being

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without maybe having health insurance.

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Lately, I've been into motion lines.

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comic strips or comic books.

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And I thought they were
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of sign language, and how it carries

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a lot of weight and emotion.

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For example, the sign for "time."

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I tap my wrist with my index finger.

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I looked at a bunch of different

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signs that come into contact

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with the body,

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and I came up with a one-line poem

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to fit the current climate

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and what was happening in this area.

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"Time owes me rest again."

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can shave a little bit.

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- [interpreter VO] This experience
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work with such a large scale.

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I thought a lot about that.

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this is the best way where we

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can shove or force our deafness

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or our existence

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or our deaf voice,

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and do that in their everyday lives,

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in their everyday space.

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And it happened that the
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reached out to me
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saying that I could

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show any work I wanted.

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And I was like, "All right,

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"let me aim for the
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I said, "Let's caption the city."

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I want people to see captions,

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to think about why they're there,

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to think about who might want them.

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"Deaf people."

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'cause I wanted it all, I wanted more.

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I want deaf lives to be in your mind,

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and be part of what we
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what's normal.

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we have no place to be,

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and I think that's why

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I've gotten into scale,

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and also, I'm just greedy, too.

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Hello, my name is Azikiwe Mohammed.

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I am happy to have been featured by 
Art21 in their series New York Close Up.

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As you may or may not have seen, 
I do a lot of different stuff,

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and trying to explain it to people 
can be a little chewy sometimes.

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Now, I can say I make a lot 
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somewhere.

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That is all thanks to Art21.

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If you like watching people make some stuff,

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Art21 is an unlimited 24/7 resource of all 
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There's educational resources, 
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and workshops for teachers that can 
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the people who make some of the stuff,

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Thank you.