0:00:30.206,0:00:37.260 Hello and good evening on day two of the chaos communication Camp 2023 Translated by {Yang}{Li} (ITKST56 course assignment at JYU.FI)] 0:00:37.260,0:00:42.187 it's late in the evening this is meleeway stage in case you're wondering 0:00:42.230,0:00:48.176 and the next talk is going to be about incident report responses 0:00:48.476,0:00:59.520 so if you're curious about how to even get there to have an incident response how you could [br]prepare for an incident response and how you could support a new organization 0:00:59.520,0:01:07.258 uh, the incident response team in doing the job and trying to fix whatever broke 0:01:07.258,0:01:11.677 let's put it that way um we have the right talk for you 0:01:11.677,0:01:17.352 this is stories from the life of an incident from incident responders Harry and Chris 0:01:17.352,0:01:23.500 please a very warm Round of Applause [Applause] 0:01:28.925,0:01:36.675 so, good evening and thank you for joining us today um we will tell you a little bit of our 0:01:36.675,0:01:43.664 life as incident responders and I'm Chris I did my computer science 0:01:43.664,0:01:48.784 studies at the University of alang and Nuremberg I do this security stuff for 0:01:48.784,0:01:55.394 over 10 years now so my CV is a little bit longer at the moment I'm a detection 0:01:55.415,0:02:01.425 engineer before that I was a long time working in dfir so digital forensic incident 0:02:01.425,0:02:06.062 response in different organizations and 0:02:07.411,0:02:12.388 yeah I'm Harryr I studied electrical and computer engineering at RWTH 0:02:12.395,0:02:18.165 University and I played a lot of CTF and did some hacking stuff at chaos computer club RWTH 0:02:18.165,0:02:24.523 during my masters I worked at x41 dsac doing pen testing patch analysis 0:02:24.589,0:02:32.359 so I also have some kind of offensive security background on for around one year now I'm working at G data Advanced 0:02:32.359,0:02:36.619 analytics doing digital forensics and incident handling 0:02:38.080,0:02:45.390 first Christian will give you a short introduction and then he will tell you how a classical ransomware attack looks 0:02:45.390,0:02:51.097 like and in the second part of the talk I will tell you how the incident 0:02:51.097,0:02:58.167 responders work and what you can do in advance to make it go as smooth as possible and support the incident 0:02:58.167,0:03:05.035 response team so as Harryr told you I will probably 0:03:05.035,0:03:12.290 we'll talk about ransomware because the customers we usually have are small and 0:03:12.290,0:03:17.543 medium-sized businesses universities and hospitals and those are regularly 0:03:17.543,0:03:23.268 unfortunately regularly hit by um um 0:03:24.017,0:03:29.557 ransomware gangs the main reason for this and that's if you heard the last 0:03:29.557,0:03:35.096 talk um why they maybe not that responsive 0:03:35.096,0:03:42.058 and are not so interested in they just lack the resources so the manpower to do 0:03:42.058,0:03:48.424 uh proper security measurements to secure their systems especially in in erm 0:03:48.424,0:03:53.618 situations where you are for example in a hospital have medical devices 0:03:53.618,0:03:59.378 um which where you cannot simply install an AV on or even patch the system 0:03:59.378,0:04:07.321 because you lose the certification as a medical device then but also in in 0:04:07.321,0:04:12.953 companies manufacturing companies on the shop floor we're talking about systems[br] 0:04:12.953,0:04:21.292 that have run times of 25 plus years so if you look back now 2023 0:04:21.292,0:04:26.823 we're talking about XP and older systems fun fact I was in a ransomware case and 0:04:26.823,0:04:34.230 Wannacry in 2017 when I got a call from from a person from the shop floor 0:04:34.230,0:04:38.000 asking me if we have a nt4 expert, um 0:04:40.200,0:04:47.380 that can tell us if WannaCry is affecting nt4 of course you don't need 0:04:47.380,0:04:54.071 to be a expert for NT-4 this one requires of course not affecting nt4 0:04:54.071,0:04:59.602 systems so due to the time uh slot we thought 0:04:59.602,0:05:04.915 memes are the best way to to tell you those stories and we have a lot of them 0:05:06.453,0:05:12.822 so in the first uh um section I tell you a little bit of how an attack Works 0:05:12.822,0:05:21.062 um there are a lot of different possibilities how you can describe and how to structure the how an attack works 0:05:22.257,0:05:28.993 there's the miter attack framework for example there was for example a talk Yesterday by Maker Salko 0:05:28.993,0:05:34.854 um here on the stage there's the original cyber kill chain from from Lockheed Martin you have 0:05:37.190,0:05:42.480 stuff from from companies like Mandy and their targeted the tech life cycle but 0:05:42.480,0:05:47.550 that's all in my opinion two two fine-grained it's that's the reason I 0:05:47.550,0:05:53.275 just take three simple steps yeah get a foothold in the door 0:05:53.275,0:06:00.645 look move play around and cash out those three uh I will just go over 0:06:03.141,0:06:07.835 so start with uh get a foot in the door so normally we 0:06:07.835,0:06:14.756 see three ways how attackers can can get into the environment in the ransomware 0:06:14.756,0:06:20.655 cases you have vulnerabilities in uh remote uh internet facing systems you 0:06:20.655,0:06:25.875 have the remote Services itself and you have malware 0:06:26.712,0:06:35.507 starting with the with the the vulnerabilities and um I just looked uh up the last four 0:06:35.507,0:06:42.060 years and maybe somebody remembers netscaler the the so-called Citrix 0:06:42.060,0:06:49.789 vulnerability in December 2019 um it was released mid of uh 2019 uh 0:06:49.789,0:06:55.889 December 2019 the first POC publicly available POC was in beginning of 0:06:55.889,0:07:03.293 January and the patch was available in middle of January so there was a round one week to one and a half weeks between 0:07:03.293,0:07:10.494 a public proof of concept for the vulnerability and uh patch for the vulnerability and what we saw 0:07:10.494,0:07:17.194 during 2020 a lot of companies patched but the patch didn't remove the the 0:07:17.194,0:07:25.469 compromise so they were already compromised and um yeah with it with the patch they 0:07:25.469,0:07:31.114 didn't remove the compromise so what we found what we could provable 0:07:31.114,0:07:36.184 see or proof evidence for uh was nine 0:07:36.184,0:07:42.286 month uh customer was breached after nine months using this this vulnerability 0:07:43.176,0:07:51.434 and we had other customers where we could see that the netscaler was affected after two years but we couldn't 0:07:51.434,0:08:00.073 prove that this this compromise was the reason for the actual ransomware case 0:08:00.275,0:08:04.914 and of course such vulnerabilities happen not that often 0:08:06.295,0:08:13.035 yeah so 2021 gave us uh hafnium exchange 0:08:13.035,0:08:18.736 vulnerability also a similar situation the patch 0:08:18.736,0:08:25.406 appeared as an out-of-band patch from Microsoft on a Tuesday evening 10 o'clock in German time 0:08:26.479,0:08:32.529 we saw during our uh incidents or the the assessments we did that 0:08:34.476,0:08:41.516 um the first exploit exploitation attempts were seen on Wednesday in the morning at 0:08:41.516,0:08:50.308 5:00 am so around seven eight hours later um I know one guy who could patch 0:08:50.308,0:08:56.691 because he was online when the patch was released otherwise Germany was unable to patch in 0:08:56.691,0:09:04.149 time and of course we can go on with 2021 proxy shell also 0:09:04.149,0:09:10.039 exchange vulnerability proxy nutshell also exchange vulnerability 0:09:10.039,0:09:16.367 we have uh in 2022 VMware Horizon the the virtual desktop infrastructure 0:09:16.367,0:09:23.627 from VMware just to name also open source stuff Zimbra a collaboration platform 0:09:23.627,0:09:28.922 including an email server uh has had a vulnerability actually the vulnerability 0:09:28.922,0:09:34.675 was in cpio from 2015 I think which led 0:09:34.675,0:09:40.164 to a compromise using via email so you send an email 0:09:40.164,0:09:48.387 with a cpio with a specially crafted archive file and you could drop a web 0:09:48.387,0:09:55.947 shell in one of the directories yeah you have of course 40 OS which is a 0:09:55.947,0:10:02.069 40 gate VPN and firewall operating system 0:10:03.220,0:10:08.250 and if you read the news we start at the beginning again 0:10:08.251,0:10:15.121 netscaler had some issues several weeks ago according to foxIT we have 1900 0:10:15.121,0:10:21.545 still unpatched net scalers worldwide how many patched 0:10:22.393,0:10:27.743 was netscale has exists that um have not been checked for compromise we 0:10:27.743,0:10:32.058 don't know of course so that will be a nice year probably 0:10:33.728,0:10:41.564 um so what can you can you do against this kind of of attack vector patch your systems is one thing as you 0:10:41.810,0:10:49.378 see this that doesn't lead to the the um or what you need to do afterwards in 0:10:49.378,0:10:57.354 such cases you need to check your systems for possible compromise 0:10:57.354,0:11:03.973 that is important to reduce this I highly suggest put your 0:11:03.973,0:11:11.583 uh Services behind some VPN so that only people who already have 0:11:11.583,0:11:17.054 connection to the VPN um can access your services or the services 0:11:17.054,0:11:22.649 they need and that would reduce the attack surface 0:11:22.649,0:11:28.289 at least to the VPN server so but I 0:11:28.289,0:11:32.996 of course we can also think about remote services without vulnerabilities 0:11:34.661,0:11:41.591 um there can be configuration mistakes so the admin does something wrong there can 0:11:41.591,0:11:50.339 be insecure default configurations like this um I don't know if you know it but the 0:11:50.339,0:11:55.614 local admins or the administrators on the Windows system are are 0:11:55.614,0:12:02.101 automatically in the remote desktop users group you know and so 0:12:02.101,0:12:08.428 we had several cases especially in the beginning of the pandemic when everybody moved from uh to the home offices and 0:12:08.428,0:12:15.545 they needed to put people fast in the position to to access their the assist 0:12:15.545,0:12:22.125 the internal systems again they just put a RDP server on the internet and hope for the best 0:12:25.136,0:12:29.767 um additionally if you put services on the internet of course brute forcing and 0:12:29.767,0:12:35.947 credential uh stuffing are attacks that are possible so brute forcing just trying the the 0:12:37.115,0:12:42.195 username and password combinations uh credential stuffing using already leaked 0:12:42.195,0:12:47.636 passwords or credentials from leaks you find on the internet 0:12:48.536,0:12:53.923 what you can do about this kind of of attack Vector is uh just as I said use 0:12:53.923,0:13:00.912 multi-factor Authentication and reduce the attack surface as in the 0:13:00.912,0:13:06.695 point with the vulnerabilities before by moving the services behind a VPN and 0:13:06.695,0:13:09.691 then use multi-factor authentication on VPN of course 0:13:12.791,0:13:18.141 the last Vector that we see normally that the attackers can get in the 0:13:18.141,0:13:23.887 network is malware we all know this about 0:13:23.887,0:13:28.658 those funny emails you get with the attachments 0:13:28.658,0:13:35.031 um include that have either Word documents 0:13:35.031,0:13:41.764 attached either zip files with with Visual Basic scripts javascripts and 0:13:41.764,0:13:47.344 what you can get isos you see a lot these days 0:13:48.850,0:13:54.210 um or what you can also have that you can have just a link inside the email and 0:13:54.210,0:14:01.901 you download the respective file from some some shady file sharing website 0:14:03.381,0:14:09.435 um what we saw over the last year was uh USB sticks again funnily 0:14:10.744,0:14:16.484 um I'm not sure if you have heard about raspberry Robin which is a malware that 0:14:16.484,0:14:26.427 warms via USB sticks um but I haven't seen it as a vector for 0:14:27.234,0:14:31.784 ransomware yet on my own but there are people who said that it's 0:14:33.220,0:14:37.770 an initial access broker for some of the ransomware gangs 0:14:38.734,0:14:42.884 so what can you do about this if you think the 0:14:45.169,0:14:53.042 you can of course ban simply some file extensions in your mail server or you 0:14:53.723,0:15:00.953 change the file Association types in your operating system meaning that you 0:15:00.953,0:15:06.274 don't open the JavaScript and Visual Basic script files using for example the 0:15:06.274,0:15:11.610 windows scripting host but open it with notepad and that will 0:15:11.610,0:15:14.757 of course some people will be 0:15:18.146,0:15:23.006 uh some people will think about what this this is then and ask the IT guys 0:15:23.006,0:15:27.408 but it's better than running the the script itself 0:15:28.260,0:15:35.110 one thing I I I don't like to to say it but keep your AV updated 0:15:35.547,0:15:39.791 um uh this is one thing keep it updated and read the logs 0:15:40.722,0:15:46.066 we see a lot of incidents where we see that the already 0:15:46.544,0:15:51.714 days or weeks before we you can could have seen that there's something going 0:15:51.714,0:15:59.612 on in your network yeah and if you see malware in your AV logs 0:16:00.476,0:16:05.846 then react to it just check it you don't know how long this AV this malware has 0:16:05.846,0:16:11.302 been on your system the thing is that 0:16:11.302,0:16:16.792 just because you're AV detected it now it might have been get received an 0:16:16.792,0:16:22.287 update for its signatures and the malware was active for days or weeks 0:16:22.287,0:16:27.597 before so when they are inside 0:16:29.770,0:16:34.030 then they usually look move and play around a little bit 0:16:36.020,0:16:41.420 so when they look around what they do 0:16:41.420,0:16:47.612 is they they enumerate AD they do Ports scan the you they search for 0:16:47.612,0:16:54.388 vulnerabilities they check uh what they how they can escalate 0:16:54.388,0:16:59.826 their privileges they try to find credentials 0:16:59.826,0:17:03.871 um Kerber roasting we heard in the talk before for example is this one thing 0:17:07.890,0:17:11.700 um they try to identify accounts you around 0:17:11.700,0:17:16.981 have running on your systems they can use they can get the credentials from and you reuse 0:17:18.060,0:17:24.150 and for that reason one of the most important things I think is that you 0:17:24.150,0:17:33.254 have a principle of least privileges in your environment so only what a account needs 0:17:33.365,0:17:38.385 you should be able to do you should use dedicated service 0:17:38.385,0:17:43.661 accounts for your services of course and just for your information