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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:04.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’m the first person who will tell you that\Ngoing vegan is an astronomically beneficial
Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.82,0:00:12.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decision for the planet, other humans, certainly\Nthe animals, and your health…sometimes.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.11,0:00:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are so many ways to eat vegan that in\Nreality it doesn’t always equate to glowing
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.56,0:00:22.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,health. Still, vegans abound who have seen\Nprofound improvement in their health through
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.01,0:00:27.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dietary change and athletes who’ve seen\Nsignificant improvement in performance and
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.09,0:00:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recovery. But are these success stories based\Nin science? Or can we be just as healthy consuming
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.28,0:00:39.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,animal products? Well my guest today has a\Nunique take on the matter as a vegan ultra-athlete
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.49,0:00:41.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Registered Dietitian.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.34,0:00:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi it’s Emily from Bite Size Vegan and welcome\Nto another vegan nugget. Nothing gets people
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.17,0:00:55.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up in arms so much as the debate on the perfect\Nway of eating, especially when you get into
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.35,0:01:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the various factions of vegan dietary\Napproaches. It gets intense and health claims
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.03,0:01:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,abound along with conflicting advice.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.14,0:01:09.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well endurance ultra-athlete and Registered\NDietitian Matt Ruscigno holds what is rather
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.07,0:01:14.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,controversial view, at least in vegan circles,\Nthat eating vegan isn’t necessarily the
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.37,0:01:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only way to be healthy. If you missed my first\Nvideo with Matt where he shares what he eats,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.96,0:01:22.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be sure to check it out up there or in the\Ndescription.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.82,0:01:27.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let’s hear from Matt about eating vegan\Nfor athletic performance, and in general,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.49,0:01:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as the importance of not exaggerating\Nhealth claims:
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.48,0:01:34.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Matt, I want to thank you so much for\Ntaking time out of your busy schedule to be
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.61,0:01:35.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the channel.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.19,0:01:37.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’m honored to be here. Thank you\Nfor having me.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.46,0:01:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you speak a bit to, I mean, we\Ntalked earlier about kind of what you eat
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.44,0:01:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your philosophy with your own food but\Ncan you speak kind of as a registered dietitian
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.72,0:01:51.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about eating vegan for athletic performance,\Nlike what, what’s really the, of course
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.19,0:01:55.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there’s not “the” ideal but what is\Nsomething that people should try to trend
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.06,0:01:56.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,towards as athletes?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.86,0:02:02.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right, great question and it’s something\Non my mind especially right now having been
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.53,0:02:07.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at Vida Vegan Con in Austin where I gave a\Npresentation on why we shouldn’t exactly
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.55,0:02:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exaggerate health claims in vegansim because\Nbeing healthy and being vegan aren’t the
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.96,0:02:18.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same thing and the science is very complicated\Nand you know when I’m wearing my professional
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.06,0:02:23.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hat, the truth is you can eat animal products\Nand be healthy. You know, there are people
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.14,0:02:27.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who do it, there are people who have had great\Nresults from Paleo. You know, they’ve lowered
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.29,0:02:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their cholesterol levels to which we vegans\Nsay “No, they’re eating all that meat
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.46,0:02:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their cholesterol’s going to skyrocket”.\NIt’s like well there’s some published
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.08,0:02:37.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,research that says they’re actually lowered\Ncholesterol levels eating Paleo, and we have
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.27,0:02:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be realistic about these results and that\Nthey exist. It’s naive to think the only
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.08,0:02:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way to be healthy is to be vegan. Now that\Nsaid, of course, I’m an ethical vegan and
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.82,0:02:53.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my stance is that you can be just as healthy\Nwhile being vegan. And we have actual research
Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.93,0:02:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that says people who eat more plant foods\Nlive longer, they have lower rates of chronic
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.81,0:03:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disease, all that stuff that’s based on\Ngood, actual peer-reviewed research. And that’s
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.16,0:03:09.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great to have and I think it really gives\Nstrength to our argument but to say that you
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.51,0:03:13.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to be vegan to be healthy I don’t think\Nis true. And so for athletes, it’s the same
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.39,0:03:18.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of thing where you can perform just as\Nwell and we have the examples you know, we
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.49,0:03:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have Scott Jurek, Rich Roll, we have the whole\NPlantBuilt team, all those folks that are
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.04,0:03:29.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really kicking ass while being vegan but to\Nsay that you have, that you are better to
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.31,0:03:32.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be vegan is, well, we don’t quite have the\Nresearch. We just have a lot of people who
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.42,0:03:34.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have given their own personal stories.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.29,0:03:39.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For someone who is interested in athletics\Nor already is an athlete and is interested
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.83,0:03:44.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in transitioning to a vegan diet, what would\Nyou recommend as far, because a lot of people
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.93,0:03:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have fears about, you know, well, how am I\Ngonna get this how am I gonna get that which
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.72,0:03:52.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ends up not being quite as complicated, I\Nthink, as people think but what would you
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.39,0:03:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell someone who is looking to that and wants\Nto make sure they can maintain their level
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.84,0:03:56.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of performance?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.46,0:04:01.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah absolutely, what I do, I get a\Nlot of clients like this that are very intelligent
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.13,0:04:06.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they’re vegan-ish or an athlete-ish\Nand they say “I read all these books what
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.33,0:04:10.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do I actually do?” and my philosophy is\Nyou need to start where you are. You know,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.95,0:04:15.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you really wanna be raw and 80/10/10 or\Ndid you just read the book and you think it’s
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.91,0:04:18.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great. Is this this really practical for you,\Ndo you have reasons to believe that this is
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.91,0:04:23.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better than any other way of eating. So it’s\Nall about starting where you are. You know,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.61,0:04:27.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can you veganize the stuff that you’re already\Neating and see how that feels. If you like
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.49,0:04:30.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,broccoli and you’re familiar with cooking\Nbroccoli, add it to more things, eat more
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.81,0:04:34.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of it. If you want to do some meat substitutes\Nfor a little while, go right ahead. If you
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.85,0:04:40.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to keep doing them, go right ahead. Just\Nmake sure you are indeed eating actual fruits,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.06,0:04:44.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vegetables, whole grains, beans are very important\Nfor vegans and especially athletes, you know
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.95,0:04:50.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lots of nutrients, lots of protein, all those\Namino acids, it’s really an important part
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.21,0:04:52.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a healthy vegan diet in my opinion.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.62,0:04:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You read about how they have kind of\Nanti-nutrient agents and if you soak them
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.70,0:05:01.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it takes that out, is that something\Nthat you ascribe to or that you know much
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.02,0:05:02.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about? Do you do that with your own?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.69,0:05:08.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think a lot of people are concerned\Nabout these anti-nutrients and phytates and
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.44,0:05:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what not and when it’s true, those are present\Nin some plant foods but really the research
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.22,0:05:24.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shows that people who eat plant foods aren’t\Ngetting nutrient deficiencies from these so-called
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.51,0:05:27.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anti-nutrients. So on paper yes they’re\Nthere but in reality it doesn’t seem to
Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.88,0:05:33.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,matter for most people. When we get into like\Nyoung kids or someone who needs to restrict
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.04,0:05:37.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their diet for a certain reason, sure, maybe\Nyou want to look closely at it but for most
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.73,0:05:44.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people it’s really not an issue. We really\Nget hung up on these very fine points and
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.35,0:05:49.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that that’s one, confusing and two,\Ndifficult for people who just want to eat
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.21,0:05:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, you know and I get a lot of people who\Ncome from sort of a normal US cultural diet
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.84,0:06:02.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they’ve never heard of any of these\Nthings and those of us who are kind of seasoned
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.15,0:06:06.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in it are like well you can’t eat GMO, it\Nhas to be local, it has to be organic and
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.24,0:06:10.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no you shouldn’t eat kale because it has\Ngoitrogens and it’s like what the heck are
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.21,0:06:14.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you talking about, I just want to eat more\Nfruits and vegetables so you know let’s
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.02,0:06:17.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep it simple. Let’s keep it simple and\Nnot get hung up on these very fine points.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.48,0:06:21.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alright well, Matt I just want to thank\Nyou again for taking time out of your schedule
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.70,0:06:23.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be with us and for sharing your knowledge.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.57,0:06:27.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah absolutely, and thank you for having\Nme. It was great to talk with you. I love
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.30,0:06:29.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking about all this stuff and thank you\Nfor all the work that you do.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.94,0:06:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope you enjoyed hearing from Matt on his\Napproach to simplifying vegan nutrition.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.90,0:06:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While I completely agree that we vegans need\Nnot and should not falsely inflate the health
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.16,0:06:45.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or any other benefits of eating vegan, the\Nastounding devastation of eating animals makes
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.79,0:06:50.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing so completely unnecessary. As I’ve\Nsaid before in my videos, we don’t have
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.36,0:06:52.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make things up—they’re bad enough as\Nit is.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.94,0:06:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, it all boils down to the fact that\Nwhether or not we can be just as healthy consuming
Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.72,0:07:03.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,animal products, doing so remains profoundly\Ndevastating to the environment, diverts global
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.76,0:07:10.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,food and water resources, and most importantly\Nviolently ends the lives of trillions of beings
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.35,0:07:14.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every year. And that is not up for debate.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.27,0:07:18.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’m interested to hear what you think of\NMatt’s approach. Do you think it’s possible
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.53,0:07:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to eat animal products and be healthy? Do\Nyou think there is or needs to be an “ideal”
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.72,0:07:26.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way of eating vegan? Let me know in the comments!
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.85,0:07:31.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be sure to check out the links in the description\Nto connect with Matt at this website where
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.13,0:07:36.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he offers nutrition counseling services, and\Nat his own vegan athlete video series Strongest
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.58,0:07:40.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hearts where be profiles incredible vegan\Nathletes.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.03,0:07:44.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you enjoyed this video, give it a big thumbs\Nup. If you’re new here, do hit that big
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Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.27,0:07:53.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some Fridays and to not miss out the on the\Nrest of the Vegan Athlete series. If you want
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.77,0:07:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to help support Bite Size Vegan, check out\Neither of the support links in the video description
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.58,0:08:02.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,below or click on the Nugget Army icon or\Nthe link in the sidebar. Now go live vegan,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.25,0:08:04.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep nutrition simple, and I’ll see you\Nsoon.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.86,0:08:09.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do have to admit that we vegans can get\Na little carried away with exaggerated health
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.01,0:08:09.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,claims.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.78,0:08:12.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you go vegan, you’ll never get another\Npimple!
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.26,0:08:14.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you go vegan you’ll never fart again!
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.17,0:08:16.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You’ll be able to run a marathon tomorrow!
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.69,0:08:19.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Being vegan means never having to blow your\Nnose again!
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.41,0:08:22.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did your head come off? Go vegan and it will\Npop right back on!
Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.73,0:08:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing cures decapitation like a healthy\Nvegan diet!
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.48,0:08:27.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you go vegan, you’ll be a better dancer!
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.14,0:08:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A better lover!
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.76,0:08:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A better friend!
Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.94,0:08:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You’ll rule the world!
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.58,0:08:33.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you go vegan, you’ll never have body\Nodor again!