[Script Info]
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[Events]
Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text
Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.37,0:00:06.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(조용한 전자음악)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.36,0:00:11.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(기차가 덜커덕 거리는 소리)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.81,0:00:13.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(사람들의 대화 소리)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.62,0:00:19.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,타니아 부르게라: 이민 운동 프로젝트(Immigrant Movement project)의 전략은
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.47,0:00:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,사람들이 이미 아는 것들의 문을 여는 것입니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.25,0:00:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,그러므로 이미 아는 무언가에 들어감으로써
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.00,0:00:30.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,무슨 일이 일어나는지 이해한다고 느낄 수 있습니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.03,0:00:33.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,그리고 그렇기 때문에 이후에는 알지 못하는 다른 장소로 걸어들어갈 수도 있어요.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.51,0:00:36.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(군중이 대화하는 소리)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.34,0:00:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,저한테, 예술작품을 만드는데 가장 중요한 순간은
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.52,0:00:49.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,사람들이 그것이 예술인지 아닌지 모를 때입니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.82,0:00:52.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,그리고 이것이 저에게는 가장 생산적인 순간이에요.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.18,0:01:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(경쾌한 전통 음악)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.87,0:01:15.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,저는 예술가입니다. 그리고 저 자신을 변호해야 합니다. 왜냐하면 제가 예술을 넘어선
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.29,0:01:19.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,영역에까지 가려고 하고, 예술이라고 사람들이 간주하지 않는 일들을 시도하기 때문입니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.67,0:01:25.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,정치 예술사로서, 저는 저의 작품이 언제나 결과를 내기를 원합니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.54,0:01:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,처음 시작할 때 이민 운동의 주요한 목표는
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.44,0:01:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,이민자들의 정치적 진술에 대해서 다시 생각하는 것이었습니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.45,0:01:37.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,왜냐고요?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.03,0:01:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,만약 여러분이 이민자가 된다면, 여러분이 맨 처음 경험할 수 있는 일은
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.16,0:01:45.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,정치에 대해 이야기하고 정치적 존재로서 이야기할 기회를 박탈당하는
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.41,0:01:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,것일 겁니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.24,0:01:53.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(대담한 스트링 음악)
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.71,0:02:10.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,저는 미국에서 이민자 운동을 해야 한다고 생각했습니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.91,0:02:17.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,왜냐하면 "어디에 살고 싶으세요?"라고 물어봤을 때 그들이 "미국이요"라고 말할 확률이 높으니까요.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.11,0:02:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(경쾌한 전통 음악)
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.18,0:02:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(외국어로 노래함)
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.50,0:02:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,이민운동에 참여한 사람들은 예술을
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.61,0:02:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,자신을 보호하기 위한 수단으로, 그리고 사람들을 변화시키는 데 사용해요.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.69,0:02:52.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,저는 이민자 운동의 사이클과 그 맨 끝에서 만나게 되는
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.65,0:02:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,이 모임에 오신 여러분을 환영하고 싶습니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.58,0:02:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,우리는 모든 것 때문에 행복합니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.70,0:03:01.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,선생님들과
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.47,0:03:03.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,여기에 오신 분들
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.85,0:03:05.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,이민자 운동을 그들의 터전으로
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.90,0:03:08.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,만든 사람들을요.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.34,0:03:11.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(기차가 덜컥거리는 소리)
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.27,0:03:17.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,이민자 운동은 다른 프로젝트들과는 아주 다릅니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.43,0:03:19.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(말발굽 소리)
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.11,0:03:22.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,다른 작품들을 통해서 저는 다른 문을 열었습니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.00,0:03:30.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,타틀린의 속삭임 시리즈에서 사용했던 아이디어는 뉴스를 보면서 제가 받았던
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.74,0:03:32.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,불편한 감정에서 나왔습니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.07,0:03:39.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,뉴스의 시청자로서 우리는 어떤 문제에서 마비된 감각을 가지게
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.42,0:03:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,될 수 있습니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.50,0:03:43.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,저는 다른 시리즈들도 만들었는데, 그중에 성공적이었던 것이
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.92,0:03:48.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,타틀린의 속삭임 5와 6이었습니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.58,0:03:53.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,첫 번째 시리즈에서 저는 말을 탄 경찰을 출연시키고 싶었습니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.39,0:03:56.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,그리고 그들에게 일상적인 일을 하라고 시키는 거죠.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.54,0:04:03.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,그러나 시위자들이 아닌 미술관에 방문한 사람들과 함께 이 일을 했습니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.59,0:04:04.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[경찰관] 이들이 당신의 아이들입니까?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.99,0:04:05.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[방문자] 네.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.49,0:04:07.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,엄마나 아빠와 함께 설 수 있나요?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.85,0:04:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,그거에요. 그들이 너무 가까워요.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.92,0:04:10.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,아주 좋아요.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.92,0:04:11.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,잘했어요.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.42,0:04:13.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,좋아요. 말이 앞으로 걸을거에요.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.59,0:04:15.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,옆으로 비켜 서주실 수 있나요?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.49,0:04:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,잘했어요.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.30,0:04:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,아주 고맙습니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.79,0:04:18.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,거기에서 기다리세요.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.79,0:04:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[타니아] 저는 다른 곳에서 일어나는 뉴스를 보는 것이 너무 쉽다고
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.76,0:04:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,언제나 생각했습니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.87,0:04:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,그냥 앉아서 채널을 바꾸는게 다니까요.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.92,0:04:29.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,그리고 저는 사람들이 이해하기를 바랐어요.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.31,0:04:33.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,언제 경찰관이 당신에게 다가와서
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.42,0:04:37.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"저쪽으로 가세요"라고 말할 때 어떤 느낌을 받는지에 대해서요.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.74,0:04:41.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(말이 발굽소리를 냄)
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.80,0:04:42.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,어쩐 장소에서 억압을 받을 때
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.97,0:04:47.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,당신이 실제로 하는 일이 사람들을 보호하는 일이라는
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.53,0:04:49.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,사실이 아주 인상적이었다고 생각을 합니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.08,0:04:52.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,두번째는 타틀린의 속삭임 #6입니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.59,0:04:58.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,저는 이 작품에서 모든 연출법을 다 사용했어요. 쿠바의 정치적 사건들을 전면에 내세웠습니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.78,0:05:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,이 작품에서 연단이 맨 앞에 나오고 있고요 연설을 들기를 기대하는 사람들이 보이는
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.00,0:05:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,아주 단순한 순간입니다.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.26,0:05:10.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,또한 이 지점에서부터
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.71,0:05:13.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,피델이
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.72,0:05:18.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.22,0:05:23.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.13,0:05:24.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.13,0:05:26.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.26,0:05:30.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.77,0:05:37.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.04,0:05:44.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.95,0:05:46.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.33,0:05:51.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.27,0:05:56.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.25,0:05:59.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.63,0:06:00.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.70,0:06:05.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.37,0:06:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.81,0:06:09.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.16,0:06:15.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.26,0:06:17.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.47,0:06:19.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.16,0:06:20.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.93,0:06:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.51,0:06:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.09,0:06:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.80,0:06:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.14,0:06:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.84,0:06:38.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.59,0:06:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.18,0:06:48.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.69,0:06:52.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.79,0:06:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.98,0:07:00.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.38,0:07:09.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.14,0:07:13.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.79,0:07:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.79,0:07:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.70,0:07:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.84,0:07:37.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.02,0:07:41.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.61,0:07:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.29,0:07:50.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.41,0:07:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.82,0:07:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.04,0:08:02.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.80,0:08:05.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.25,0:08:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.60,0:08:11.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.45,0:08:15.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.95,0:08:17.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.24,0:08:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.86,0:08:37.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.07,0:08:39.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.00,0:08:47.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.80,0:08:50.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.60,0:08:55.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.98,0:08:59.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.10,0:09:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.84,0:09:10.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.63,0:09:12.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.52,0:09:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.46,0:09:22.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.56,0:09:27.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.83,0:09:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.88,0:09:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.64,0:09:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.00,0:09:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.94,0:09:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.16,0:09:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.64,0:09:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.52,0:09:56.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.71,0:09:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.96,0:10:01.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.54,0:10:03.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.83,0:10:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.30,0:10:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.58,0:10:11.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.16,0:10:14.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.54,0:10:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.04,0:10:15.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.82,0:10:21.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.19,0:10:22.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.19,0:10:27.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.80,0:10:30.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.61,0:10:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.02,0:10:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.90,0:10:36.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.73,0:10:39.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.80,0:10:42.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.53,0:10:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.14,0:10:45.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.06,0:10:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.24,0:10:47.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.63,0:10:50.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.29,0:10:54.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.46,0:10:56.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.03,0:10:56.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.84,0:10:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.48,0:11:00.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.59,0:11:02.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.96,0:11:05.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.03,0:11:06.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.33,0:11:07.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.89,0:11:09.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.58,0:11:11.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.88,0:11:14.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
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