WEBVTT 00:00:00.930 --> 00:00:04.910 5 dead including the hostage taker, 4 hostages without doubts 00:00:04.910 --> 00:00:09.145 several wounded, 5 wounded with 3 in a state of absolute emergency 00:00:09.145 --> 00:00:16.511 Now, I would like, since this tragic episode came to a tragic end tonight, 00:00:16.515 --> 00:00:20.655 I would like to come back with you, Sarah-Lou, on what, we, as a TV channel, 00:00:20.686 --> 00:00:31.516 we lived today, because we have been in touch with the 2 hostages takers, at both sites. 00:00:31.566 --> 00:00:36.640 We were able to talk with Chérif Kouachi and Amady Coulibaly 00:00:36.666 --> 00:00:40.963 and it's only now that the assaults have been undertaken 00:00:40.963 --> 00:00:43.008 that we can reveal this. 00:00:43.008 --> 00:00:44.317 What happened, exactly? 00:00:44.317 --> 00:00:47.905 Well just before ten, a journalist of our redaction, 00:00:47.905 --> 00:00:53.638 Igor Sahiri, called the office of the company where Chérif Kouachi was located. 00:00:53.641 --> 00:00:58.576 He called and got Cherif on the phone, they had a first conversation 00:00:58.576 --> 00:01:00.017 which lasted a few seconds. 00:01:00.035 --> 00:01:02.784 Then he called back and taped the conversation. 00:01:02.784 --> 00:01:07.334 Chérif Kouachi knows he is talking to a journalist, and knows he is being asked questions. 00:01:07.334 --> 00:01:14.854 He answers very clearly and tells us several things, which I propose to hear now. 00:01:14.858 --> 00:01:20.912 He first explains that he is financed by Al-Qaeda Yemen, let's listen to him. 00:01:20.912 --> 00:01:25.443 (Chérif) We just want to say that we are the defenders of the prophet 00:01:25.443 --> 00:01:31.709 and I was sent, me, Chérif Kouachi, by Al-Qaeda Yemen. 00:01:31.709 --> 00:01:38.663 And I went there and it's Anwar al-Awlaki who financed me. (speaks foreign language) 00:01:38.663 --> 00:01:40.852 (Reporter) When was this, approximately ? 00:01:40.852 --> 00:01:45.587 (Chérif) Hu, a long time ago, before he got killed, may Allah have mercy of him. 00:01:45.587 --> 00:01:53.656 (Sarah-Lou) Anwar al-Awlaki was an American preacher who lived in Yemen and was considered one of the masterminds of Al-Qaeda 00:01:53.656 --> 00:01:58.955 So he tells us that he was sent by Al-Qaeda Yemen, and then he explains 00:01:58.955 --> 00:02:05.489 why they did this, he claims responsibility, explaining that they avenged the prophet 00:02:05.489 --> 00:02:10.628 and explain that they deny having killed civilians. 00:02:10.628 --> 00:02:15.452 This is important because, for them, the Charlie Hebdo journalists weren't civilians, 00:02:15.452 --> 00:02:17.201 they were targets. 00:02:17.201 --> 00:02:25.246 He then goes on, very calmly, that they didn't come to kill women and children 00:02:25.246 --> 00:02:31.839 but it's us, Westerners, who kill Children, in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria. 00:02:31.839 --> 00:02:39.164 He talks in a very quiet and determined manner, and as if he had prepared answers 00:02:39.164 --> 00:02:41.690 which was extremely troubling. 00:02:41.690 --> 00:02:46.130 The conversation lasted 2 minutes and its essence was 00:02:46.130 --> 00:02:52.109 to deliver his claims : he wanted his message known from the public. 00:02:52.109 --> 00:02:57.454 (Host) I should point out that we did not reveal this information 00:02:57.615 --> 00:03:02.363 while the search was still ongoing to avoid getting in the way 00:03:02.621 --> 00:03:08.836 of the police during the operations. 00:03:08.836 --> 00:03:13.907 (Sarah-Lou) So this was at ten, a phone call that we made to Chérif Kouachi. 00:03:13.907 --> 00:03:18.211 But soon after 3, there was a different situation 00:03:18.211 --> 00:03:24.525 where it's us that ceived a call, from Amedy Coulibaly, 00:03:24.525 --> 00:03:30.508 and this time it was the deputy director of the redaction, Alexis Delahousse, 00:03:30.508 --> 00:03:33.241 who took the call and did the interview. 00:03:33.241 --> 00:03:39.708 He called us because he wanted to get in touch with the police 00:03:39.708 --> 00:03:44.461 and Alexis Delahousse interviewed him, and asked him several things 00:03:44.475 --> 00:03:49.182 including why he was there and who was behind him 00:03:49.182 --> 00:03:52.536 and that's where he claimed very clearly to be form the Islamic state, 00:03:52.566 --> 00:03:55.503 he says he receives instructions from the caliphate, 00:03:55.524 --> 00:03:59.193 and then, another very important element, 00:03:59.196 --> 00:04:02.947 because that's what we were saying this afternoon, 00:04:02.967 --> 00:04:06.653 is that he will establish a link with the Kouachi brothers, 00:04:06.653 --> 00:04:07.871 let's hear him. 00:04:07.871 --> 00:04:10.977 (Reporter) Are you connected to the 2 brothers 00:04:10.977 --> 00:04:13.192 who carried out the operation at Charlie hebdo ? 00:04:13.192 --> 00:04:16.368 (Coulibaly) Yes, we synchronized the operations. 00:04:16.385 --> 00:04:18.765 (Reporter) Are you still in touch with them right now? 00:04:18.801 --> 00:04:21.495 Have you been speaking on the phone recently? 00:04:21.495 --> 00:04:22.285 (C) No 00:04:22.289 --> 00:04:25.358 (R) How did you synchronize? Are there other events scheduled? 00:04:25.358 --> 00:04:27.331 Do you have a scenario, together, that you are following? 00:04:27.353 --> 00:04:30.002 (C) No, we synchronized for the beginning. 00:04:30.002 --> 00:04:33.987 So when thay started Charlie Hebdo, then I started... policemen 00:04:36.272 --> 00:04:41.490 (Sarah-Lou) Another important element, he tells us that there are 4 casualties 00:04:41.505 --> 00:04:46.338 in the shop, and that he is with 16 persons, including children. 00:04:46.338 --> 00:04:53.760 So this confirms tonight's tally of 5 dead, including Coulibaly. 00:04:53.774 --> 00:05:00.154 Then finally, he explains why he did this : to defend Muslims who are oppressed, he says, 00:05:00.154 --> 00:05:04.677 notably in Palestine, and then he explains his target, 00:05:04.677 --> 00:05:06.897 why this kosher store : because he targeted Jews.