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[Mirjana] [Translator] 
Here, the faith was not free.

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We were allowed to go
to Holy Mass on Sundays.

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And, that was it.
That was what we could do.

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The rest of religious life
was taking place at home.

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Our parents taught us to pray.

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We prayed Holy Rosary
every evening together.

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But, they did not talk about
the faith, much.

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Because, they were afraid.

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As kids, we cannot speak about it
in school.

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If so, they could have problems.

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That is why I had never heard about
Lourdes, or Fatima.

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I didn't know that Our Lady
could come here to earth

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in such a way.

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I thought she is up in Heaven,
and we pray.

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When Ivanka told me
that she thought

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Our Lady is up on the hill,

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I was kind of rude.
I had a rude response.

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I told her, "Right. She hasn't got
better things to do?"

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"And she came to the two of us?"

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And I left her there, and I wanted
to return to the village.

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But, when I got to the first houses,

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I felt this call within me.

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I had to return back.
When I got there,

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I saw Ivanka standing
at the very same spot.

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She told me, "Look now, please."

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I saw a woman 
in a long, greyish gown,

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who was holding a baby
in her arms.

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Everything was really strange.

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Because, no one went to the hill.

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Especially not a person 
in a long gown

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with a baby in their arms.

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At that very moment,
I felt all possible emotions

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that we are able to feel.

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Pride. Beauty. Incomprehension.

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Fear.

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And, what was the most
intense emotion

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was the need to flee this place.

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I ran back home.

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When I got home, 
I found my grandmother

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and I told her, right away:

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"Granny, I think I saw Our Lady
up on the hill."

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She told me "Take the Holy Rosary.
Go to your room, and pray."

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"Leave Our Lady where she is."

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I didn't have the strength 
to explain everything to Granny.

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I just wanted to be alone, in prayer.

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That was the only way I had peace.

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The following day, 
I was helping my uncles,

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like every day before that.

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But, when the time came
that I saw Our Lady the day before,

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I felt this calling, again.

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I told my uncle that I had to go
to the hill

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because something has been 
calling me.

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When we got there,

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nearly half the village
was there, already.

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Someone came with 
every visionary.

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We saw Our Lady
at the very same place.

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This time, she was not
carrying a baby in her arms.

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On that day, 25 June 1981,

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was the first day we got to hear her.

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She introduced herself.

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She told us, "My dear children.
Do not be afraid.

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I am the Queen of Peace."

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That is how our daily
apparitions started.

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For a short while, we had the apparitions
at the hill.

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As I said earlier,
it was a time of communism.

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Shortly afterward,
police came, with dogs.

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They surrounded the hill.

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Everyone there, eventually
ended up in prison.

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In those first days,
Our Lady showed some miracles.

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Nearly everyone from the village
saw something.

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For example, there were two
miraculous healings, right away.

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Then, the cross on Cross Mountain
was disappearing, with

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Our Lady appearing
on that spot, instead,

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dressed in white.

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The local people saw this.

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I will give you an example
what the situation was like.

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We, who had been 
brought up in communism,

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had learned how to be silent.

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The fewer words you say,
the better for you.

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So, when the cross was disappearing
at Cross Mountain,

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everyone was silent.
They just looked at it.

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One young man was 25 at that time.

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He was unable to remain silent,
because of the emotions he felt.

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He said, "Look! There is no cross!
Our Lady is there, instead!"

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He was sentenced to prison
for six months.

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That was the situation
at that time.

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The word "Mir" was written
in the sky.

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"Mir" means "Peace."

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At that time, Father Jozo
was our parish priest.

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When the police came to him,
to tell him to close the church,

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because Holy Mass was
now forbidden,

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Father Jozo said,
"I saw with my own eyes,

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that the word Mir 
is written on the sky.

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I cannot close the church.

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Do with me as you will."

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He ended up in prison.

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But the local people
had seen all of that.

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Knowing us as children,

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they trusted us,
and they helped us.

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We had an apparition
every evening at a different spot.

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I had daily apparitions like that,
until Christmas, 1982.

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That is when Our Lady
entrusted me with the 10th Secret.

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She told me I would no longer
have daily apparitions.

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She told me it would be
once a year.

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Every 18th of March,
as long as I live.

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She also said I would have
extraordinary apparitions.

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Those apparitions started
on 2nd August, 1987.

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Those are ongoing
until this day.

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I don't know how long
I will have them.

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Those apparitions are also
a prayer for unbelievers.

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Our Lady never calls them that.

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Because if you say about someone,
"You're an unbeliever,"

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you judged and condemned him.

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Our Lady never does that.

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She says "the ones that have 
not yet discovered the love of God."

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She is asking our help.

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When she says, "our help,"

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she does not mean the six of us,
the six visionaries.

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She means the help of everyone
who feels she is their mother.

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She says we can change unbelievers,

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with our prayers, and by our example.

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She asks that we put prayers for them
as a priority in our daily prayers.

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Most of the ugly things which happen
in this world,

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comes from them.

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That is why Our Lady says,

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"When you pray for them,
you pray for yourself, and your future."

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In addition to prayers, she asks
for our example.

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She doesn't want us to preach.

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She asks us to speak with our own lives,

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so unbelievers can witness in us,
God, and the love of God.

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I kindly request you consider this
In the most serious way.

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If you could see the tears of Our Lady
just once,

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the tears she cries for unbelievers,

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I am sure you would pray
with all your heart.

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She says this is the time
of great decision.

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She says it is up to us,
who say we are children of God,

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that there is a great
responsibility upon us.

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When she asks prayers
for unbelievers,

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she would like us to try that
in her way.

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That would be,
the way I understood it:

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First, feel love for them.

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Feel they are our 
brothers and sisters

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who were not as lucky
as we were,

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to feel the love of God.

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When we feel that way,
we will be able to pray for them.

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Never judge, never condemn,
never criticize.

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Simply love them.

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Pray for them.

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And, give your own example.

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Our example tells a lot.

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We all have unbelievers,

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in our house, somewhere nearby,
at our workplace,

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and that unbeliever looks at us,
and at our life.

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We must ask ourselves whether
the love of God,

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is what they see in us.

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I will give you a nice example.

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One evening, when I went
to Holy Mass in Medjugorje,

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our church was crowded.

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I am unable to stand up very long.

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I saw a small space on one of the pews.

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I sat down.

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Our brothers and sisters
from Italy were there.

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When I sat down,

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they began to yell and complain.

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You know how temperamental
our brothers and sisters

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from Italy are.

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They all said, "Get up!
This is our bench!"

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"We got here, first!"

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So many words
in just one moment.

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I got up, and I was silent.

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One lady approached me.

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She recognized me.

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She told them that I am
one of the visionaries.

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They gave me the whole bench
just for myself.

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[Laughter]

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The reason I tell you this:

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What do you think would happen

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if I was an unbeliever?

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And I was entering the church
for the first time?

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And inside, are the ones who claim
they know the love of God?

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And they behaved toward me
in such a way?

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Would I ever enter the church again?

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And whose responsibility
would that be?

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That is something that
Our Lady tries to say.

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We can all learn
to speak nicely.

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But, Our Lady
wants our lives to speak, instead.

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That with our example, 
it can be shown

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that we are trying to live
the love of God.

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In these apparitions 
of Medjugorje,

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the most important
message of Our Lady

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is the Holy Mass.

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But, not solely on Sundays.

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When we were children,

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at the beginning of
the apparitions,

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she said on one occasion,

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"If you have to choose

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between an apparition
or Holy Mass,

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you should choose Holy Mass.

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Always.

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Because during Holy Mass,

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my Son is present, with you."

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Throughout all the years
of apparitions of Our Lady,

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Our Lady never said,

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"Pray and I will give."

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She always says,

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"Pray, so I can pray,
and ask my Son for you."

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That Jesus is always in the first place.

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Many pilgrims,
when they come to Medjugorje,

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think that we visionaries
are important.

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That it is enough
to say something to us,

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that God listens to us
more than to others,

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but that thinking is wrong.

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Because, for Our Lady
as a mother,

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there are no privileged ones.

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For her, we are all
her dear children.

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She chose us,

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to speak the messages to us.

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But, she chose every single
one of you.

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That is something she said
in one of the January 2nd messages.

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She said, "Dear children,

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I have invited you.

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Open your hearts.

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Let me in, so that I can

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make you my apostles."

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So, in the eyes of 
our Holy Mother,

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we have the same importance.

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There are none whom she listens to
more, or less.

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I learned, at the very beginning
of the apparitions.

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You heard when I said
"my uncle, my grandmother."

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Because I am the only one
of us six visionaries

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who was not born here, 
nor grew up here.

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My parents are from here.

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But, when they married,
they moved to Sarajevo.

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So, I was born and raised there.

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I always visited here,
because the rest of my family was here.

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But when the apparitions began,

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because the communists
wanted to stop everything,

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I was returned by force
to Sarajevo.

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Here, where you are now,
in this zone,

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is populated by Croatians.

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Croatians are Catholic.

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Here, the communist police
were 'Croatian,'

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and, when they took us 
for interrogations,

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they yelled, they swore at us,

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but nothing else.

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But, in Sarajevo,

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the situation was 
completely different.

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In Sarajevo, 
there were true communists.

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And, mainly Muslims.

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Every single day,
they came to my house.

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They would destroy 
everything around.

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And, they would
take me with them.

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I was just 15, then.

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I never knew if I would ever
return home.

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I thought Our Lady
would help me.

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But, when I would have
an apparition,

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she told me the same things
as told to the other visionaries.

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Nothing regarding me, 
or my situation.

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I don't need to tell you
how alone and abandoned I felt.

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The five of them were here, together,

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in the village that loves
and supports them.

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But in Sarajevo, I had only
my parents and my brother.

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Everyone else was forced to
distance themselves from us.

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But, through prayer,

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I understood,

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for God, for Our Lady,

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there are no privileged ones.

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If you are having a hard time,

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take the Rosary, and pray.

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God will not leave you alone.

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When I felt that in my heart,

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I was able to deal with

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everything that hurt me,

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with far more strength.

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Also, now, in Medjugorje,

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many times, people say,

00:24:55.822 --> 00:24:59.538
"I had a healing,

00:24:59.538 --> 00:25:04.505
I got to know
the love of God."

00:25:04.505 --> 00:25:10.323
I have never met
many of those people, in my life.

00:25:10.323 --> 00:25:16.105
So, I was not the one
who prayed for them.

00:25:16.105 --> 00:25:19.323
They had open hearts.

00:25:19.323 --> 00:25:23.387
They asked for Mother's help.

00:25:23.387 --> 00:25:29.519
She asked her Son, for them.

00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:34.760
I am telling you this,
so you may understand

00:25:34.760 --> 00:25:40.724
when you need
Our Lady, our Mother,

00:25:40.724 --> 00:25:45.373
you do not need visionaries.

00:25:45.373 --> 00:25:50.604
The only thing you need
is an open heart.

00:25:50.604 --> 00:25:53.754
Our Lady says,

00:25:53.754 --> 00:25:58.555
"Open your heart,
and I will be with you."

00:25:58.555 --> 00:26:01.740
So, it is up to us,

00:26:01.740 --> 00:26:08.623
if we want our Mother with us,
to be at our side.

00:26:08.623 --> 00:26:13.623
Our Lady asked for
prayer in families.

00:26:13.623 --> 00:26:23.590
She says nothing unites family
as well as praying together.

00:26:23.590 --> 00:26:35.526
She says parents have a great 
responsibility to their children.

00:26:35.526 --> 00:26:44.406
Because, they are the ones who
should put the rules of faith

00:26:44.406 --> 00:26:46.740
in their children.

00:26:46.740 --> 00:26:50.658
They can, if they pray together,

00:26:50.658 --> 00:26:54.622
and if they go to Holy Mass.

00:26:54.622 --> 00:27:02.224
We cannot talk to children
about the importance of Holy Mass,

00:27:02.224 --> 00:27:10.435
unless they see that we put Holy Mass
In first priority.

00:27:10.435 --> 00:27:16.481
We cannot speak about
the importance of prayer,

00:27:16.481 --> 00:27:19.791
if they do not see us praying.

00:27:19.791 --> 00:27:26.493
That is why Our Lady says
the parents have great responsibility.

00:27:26.493 --> 00:27:34.491
Because children know what they see
in their homes and families.

00:27:34.491 --> 00:27:37.158
And, they see a lot,

00:27:37.158 --> 00:27:41.250
way more than we think.

00:27:41.250 --> 00:27:47.691
I always like to give this
nice example from my family:

00:27:47.691 --> 00:27:54.517
When my older daughter, Marija,
was just two,

00:27:54.517 --> 00:27:59.941
I had not talked to her
about the apparitions.

00:27:59.941 --> 00:28:07.776
I thought, at age two,
she is unable to comprehend anything.

00:28:07.776 --> 00:28:16.473
One day, when she was playing
with a friend, in her room,

00:28:16.473 --> 00:28:26.190
I heard her friend say,
"My mother drives a car."

00:28:26.190 --> 00:28:34.459
Since I don't drive, 
Marija was silent a moment.

00:28:34.459 --> 00:28:41.089
Then she said, "Big deal, to 
drive a car.

00:28:41.089 --> 00:28:46.724
My mother talks to Our Lady
every single day."

00:28:46.724 --> 00:28:49.641
[Laughter]

00:28:49.641 --> 00:28:53.328
Without me saying anything,
she understood.

00:28:53.328 --> 00:28:58.309
That is why it is important
for children to see

00:28:58.309 --> 00:29:04.259
that for their mother and father,
God is the first priority.

00:29:04.259 --> 00:29:08.497
Our Lady asks us to fast.

00:29:08.497 --> 00:29:14.008
Bread and water, 
Fridays and Wednesdays.

00:29:14.008 --> 00:29:21.877
She does not ask people
who are ill, to fast.

00:29:21.877 --> 00:29:29.767
She said that, through prayer,
they will understand

00:29:29.767 --> 00:29:33.526
other things they can do.

00:29:33.526 --> 00:29:38.110
If you never fasted 
two days a week,

00:29:38.110 --> 00:29:43.092
if you never prayed the Rosary
every day,

00:29:43.092 --> 00:29:48.761
I would suggest you begin

00:29:48.761 --> 00:29:51.859
the way Our Lady showed us
to begin.

00:29:51.859 --> 00:29:55.501
First thing she asked:

00:29:55.501 --> 00:30:03.261
Seven Our Fathers, Hail Mary,
Glory Be, and Creed.

00:30:03.261 --> 00:30:09.193
Then, she asked for the
first part of the Rosary.

00:30:09.193 --> 00:30:13.257
And, that we fast on Fridays.

00:30:13.257 --> 00:30:22.340
Also, it is not necessary
that you begin with bread and water.

00:30:22.340 --> 00:30:29.231
You can begin by
not eating meat on Fridays.

00:30:29.231 --> 00:30:35.762
Catholics never ate meat on Fridays.

00:30:35.762 --> 00:30:39.276
That can be a beginning.

00:30:39.276 --> 00:30:45.540
After a while, Our Lady asked
for the second part of the Rosary.

00:30:45.540 --> 00:30:48.459
And then third (part of Rosary),

00:30:48.459 --> 00:30:52.475
and that we fast on Wednesdays,
as well.

00:30:52.475 --> 00:30:55.409
She was going step by step.

00:30:55.409 --> 00:31:01.512
That is an example for us.

00:31:01.512 --> 00:31:06.810
What is important is
to go with her.

00:31:06.810 --> 00:31:09.225
When you fall,

00:31:09.225 --> 00:31:14.445
she will give you a hand
to get up.

00:31:14.445 --> 00:31:19.860
It is important to start

00:31:19.860 --> 00:31:23.726
walking with her.

00:31:23.726 --> 00:31:28.293
I would recommend you all,

00:31:28.293 --> 00:31:31.260
present here with me,

00:31:31.260 --> 00:31:35.694
don't begin fasting here.

00:31:35.694 --> 00:31:38.361
Once you return home,

00:31:38.361 --> 00:31:40.610
then begin.

00:31:40.610 --> 00:31:47.361
I don't want any of you
to become dizzy,

00:31:47.361 --> 00:31:51.130
especially now.

00:31:51.130 --> 00:31:54.736
Who will take you 
to the hospital?

00:31:54.736 --> 00:31:56.776
[Laughter]

00:31:56.776 --> 00:31:58.410
With this corona?

00:31:58.410 --> 00:32:03.244
Thank God, it is not here yet.

00:32:03.244 --> 00:32:09.159
But, that is my sisterly advice.

00:32:09.159 --> 00:32:13.010
Start at your homes.

00:32:13.010 --> 00:32:18.178
We will prepare simple food here.

00:32:18.178 --> 00:32:22.543
It is important for you 
to eat something.

00:32:22.543 --> 00:32:28.843
Our Lady also asks for
Holy Bible in families.

00:32:28.843 --> 00:32:37.209
When she gives me a message,
she does not explain it to me.

00:32:37.209 --> 00:32:42.234
She gives me the message

00:32:42.234 --> 00:32:45.727
in the very same way
I am giving it to you.

00:32:45.727 --> 00:32:49.765
I need every one of you:

00:32:49.765 --> 00:32:53.477
Pray, read the messages,

00:32:53.477 --> 00:33:01.254
and try to discern
what God wants from you.

00:33:01.254 --> 00:33:08.141
Those who have been 
following the messages

00:33:08.141 --> 00:33:11.943
on the 2nd of the month,

00:33:11.943 --> 00:33:15.827
you might notice that
there are quite a lot.

00:33:15.827 --> 00:33:22.276
I remember it exactly
the way Our Lady said it,

00:33:22.276 --> 00:33:27.460
just for two or three
minutes, afterwards.

00:33:27.460 --> 00:33:31.761
That is why, always,
at the Blue Cross,

00:33:31.761 --> 00:33:35.781
as soon as Our Lady
leaves us,

00:33:35.781 --> 00:33:38.394
I tell the message.

00:33:38.394 --> 00:33:41.797
So, they write it down.

00:33:41.797 --> 00:33:46.710
Because, when I 
return to my room to pray,

00:33:46.710 --> 00:33:52.247
I can tell you what she talked about.

00:33:52.247 --> 00:33:57.728
But I am unable to repeat it
word for word.

00:33:57.728 --> 00:34:02.996
I need the written message, 
myself, later,

00:34:02.996 --> 00:34:07.611
as I read and pray.

00:34:07.611 --> 00:34:14.198
That is also when Our Lady says,
return to the Bible.

00:34:14.198 --> 00:34:18.112
I think we all have a Bible.

00:34:18.112 --> 00:34:23.644
But, I think Our Lady 
wants simple things.

00:34:23.644 --> 00:34:27.196
To open the Bible 
every single day,

00:34:27.196 --> 00:34:34.413
to read a line or two,
no matter what.

00:34:34.413 --> 00:34:40.481
But, that the Bible
is present, in our families.

00:34:40.481 --> 00:34:46.579
That the Bible is not there
merely to say we have it,

00:34:47.499 --> 00:34:53.570
but we don't remember
when we last touched the Bible.

00:34:54.430 --> 00:35:00.502
In the Bible,
there are the answers we seek.

00:35:00.502 --> 00:35:07.161
Many pilgrims think

00:35:07.161 --> 00:35:10.695
that after this many years,

00:35:10.695 --> 00:35:14.028
it's a normal thing
for me to have an apparition.

00:35:14.028 --> 00:35:15.996
That I am used to it.

00:35:15.996 --> 00:35:20.273
I have to tell you,
that is not the case.

00:35:20.273 --> 00:35:24.746
Every time is like the first time.

00:35:24.746 --> 00:35:31.491
Every time, I prepare myself,
with fasting and prayer.

00:35:31.491 --> 00:35:36.484
Two or three days before, I fast.

00:35:36.484 --> 00:35:41.505
The night before, I spend in prayer.

00:35:41.505 --> 00:35:49.163
With prayer, I can wait for tomorrow
in a peaceful way.

00:35:49.163 --> 00:35:53.519
When I am with Our Lady,

00:35:53.519 --> 00:36:00.771
I believe that is the feeling
people in Heaven, have.

00:36:00.771 --> 00:36:05.212
She leads our conversations.

00:36:05.212 --> 00:36:07.078
Not me.

00:36:07.078 --> 00:36:13.603
I can feel, within,
what I may or may not ask.

00:36:14.493 --> 00:36:17.499
I never touched her.

00:36:17.499 --> 00:36:20.748
She never touched me.

00:36:20.748 --> 00:36:28.497
But, I never felt a need
to touch her.

00:36:29.417 --> 00:36:32.663
When Our Lady looks at you,

00:36:32.663 --> 00:36:35.163
you have everything.

00:36:35.163 --> 00:36:38.981
You feel loved, protected.

00:36:38.981 --> 00:36:42.712
[Cries.]

00:36:42.712 --> 00:36:48.499
That is why I say
you have no other desires.

00:36:48.499 --> 00:36:52.119
I will share an example with you.

00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:57.479
All mothers will understand.

00:36:57.479 --> 00:37:00.774
I am a mother.

00:37:00.774 --> 00:37:04.449
Like every mother,
I would give my life for my children.

00:37:04.449 --> 00:37:07.998
But, when I am with Our Lady,

00:37:07.998 --> 00:37:11.264
I don't remember them.

00:37:11.264 --> 00:37:16.514
I am unaware that I have children.

00:37:16.514 --> 00:37:23.147
I just want her to look at me,

00:37:23.147 --> 00:37:26.314
and that I look at her.

00:37:26.314 --> 00:37:33.364
You can imagine the pain
when she leaves.

00:37:33.364 --> 00:37:37.549
I always tell the message,

00:37:37.549 --> 00:37:41.630
then I go to my room, to pray.

00:37:41.630 --> 00:37:48.419
Through prayer,
God helps me to understand,

00:37:48.419 --> 00:37:51.915
and to go forward.

00:37:51.915 --> 00:37:54.248
But, it is not easy.

00:37:54.248 --> 00:38:01.264
It is not easy to be with Her,
and, then live this life of ours.

00:38:01.264 --> 00:38:08.592
If it were not for God's help,
I don't know how we could do it.

00:38:09.452 --> 00:38:16.507
These are the things
which I personally thought

00:38:16.507 --> 00:38:19.548
are the most important.

00:38:19.548 --> 00:38:21.524
And now, you.

00:38:21.524 --> 00:38:26.131
You can ask me about
anything I didn't say.

00:38:26.131 --> 00:38:31.181
If I can, I will answer
with my entire heart.

00:38:31.181 --> 00:38:37.298
Don't hold back.
That is why we gather.

00:38:37.298 --> 00:38:41.318
To talk about our Mother.

00:38:42.438 --> 00:38:46.896
[Woman] I just wanted to say thank you.
You suffer so much, for all of us.

00:38:47.740 --> 00:38:53.631
[Mirjana] I feel a bit uncomfortable,
when people say such things.

00:38:53.631 --> 00:39:05.032
Our Lady teaches us
we are lower than everyone else.

00:39:05.032 --> 00:39:10.898
Not that we are above, or special.

00:39:10.898 --> 00:39:13.636
Look at me and you.

00:39:13.636 --> 00:39:15.616
I am here.

00:39:15.616 --> 00:39:22.766
You left your home and country behind,

00:39:22.766 --> 00:39:26.633
despite corona,

00:39:26.633 --> 00:39:29.866
despite everything,

00:39:29.866 --> 00:39:32.866
you came to your Mother.

00:39:32.866 --> 00:39:40.182
So, I'm not really sure
you are the one who should thank.

00:39:40.182 --> 00:39:46.467
[Woman] It is easy to see you suffer,
lots.

00:39:46.467 --> 00:39:50.451
[Mirjana] I think that 
we all suffer,

00:39:50.451 --> 00:39:56.622
when we see those who
do not want to know

00:39:56.622 --> 00:39:58.916
the love of God.

00:39:58.916 --> 00:40:03.651
Because, we know
what awaits them.

00:40:03.651 --> 00:40:08.602
We can just trust in 
the love of God.

00:40:08.602 --> 00:40:14.850
I think he will judge us
by love.

00:40:14.850 --> 00:40:18.900
Not the way we earned.

00:40:18.900 --> 00:40:31.035
[Laughter]

00:40:31.035 --> 00:40:36.817
This is Medjugorje, for me.

00:40:36.817 --> 00:40:42.450
When you see Americans,
Canadians, Polish,

00:40:42.450 --> 00:40:49.083
we all speak about
the same Mother.

00:40:49.083 --> 00:40:55.235
That is what Our Lady
here in Medjugorje

00:40:55.235 --> 00:40:59.635
has been teaching us.

00:40:59.635 --> 00:41:17.116
[Man speaking foreign language.]

00:41:17.116 --> 00:41:20.035
[Mirjana] I didn't understand anything.

00:41:20.035 --> 00:41:21.516
[A 2nd man] Same, here.

00:41:21.516 --> 00:41:23.487
[Laughter]

00:41:23.487 --> 00:41:33.151
[Woman] He asked, um,
How do you pray in your heart.

00:41:33.151 --> 00:41:38.367
[Mirjana] I understand.
I will try to explain.

00:41:38.367 --> 00:41:44.701
Our Lady says, 
pray with your heart.

00:41:44.701 --> 00:41:51.169
I will share the way
I understood it.

00:41:51.169 --> 00:41:54.867
For me, prayer with the heart

00:41:54.867 --> 00:42:01.400
is, that every word
that comes out of my mouth

00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:05.451
goes through my heart.

00:42:05.451 --> 00:42:09.988
For example, if I say "Our Father,"

00:42:09.988 --> 00:42:18.333
that in my heart, I feel
that God is my Father.

00:42:18.333 --> 00:42:24.701
So that, basically, I am living
the things I am saying.

00:42:24.701 --> 00:42:29.434
As a sister, I would suggest

00:42:29.434 --> 00:42:34.101
that you do not waste your time

00:42:34.101 --> 00:42:38.036
judging your prayers.

00:42:38.036 --> 00:42:46.601
For me, it's important
to try to pray better.

00:42:46.601 --> 00:42:51.585
[Man: unintelligible]

00:42:51.585 --> 00:43:04.301
Not one of us can say,
"I pray the way God wants."

00:43:04.301 --> 00:43:10.268
"I am doing everything
the way God wants."

00:43:10.268 --> 00:43:12.985
I am afraid of those people.

00:43:12.985 --> 00:43:16.501
There is something wrong,
in that case.

00:43:16.501 --> 00:43:19.750
We all try.

00:43:19.750 --> 00:43:26.350
How successfully,
God will judge.

00:43:26.350 --> 00:43:37.386
For me, it is important
that we all try to pray better.

00:43:37.386 --> 00:43:39.268
[Woman] Do you think Our Lady

00:43:39.268 --> 00:43:41.253
would allow you
to come to Canada?

00:43:41.253 --> 00:43:44.569
[Laughter]

00:43:44.569 --> 00:43:46.290
[2nd woman] We often wonder.

00:43:46.290 --> 00:43:47.434
[Laughter]

00:43:47.434 --> 00:43:49.171
[Mirjana] Thank you.

00:43:49.171 --> 00:43:51.952
For Our Lady,
there is no such thing

00:43:51.952 --> 00:43:55.835
as Canada, America.

00:43:55.835 --> 00:44:00.152
The only thing she says is,
"Dear children."

00:44:00.152 --> 00:44:05.570
So, in all of these years
of apparitions,

00:44:05.570 --> 00:44:10.522
She never said "Dear Croatians."

00:44:10.522 --> 00:44:14.319
She never said my name.

00:44:14.319 --> 00:44:17.836
She says, "Dear children."

00:44:17.836 --> 00:44:26.421
Anyone else?

00:44:26.421 --> 00:44:29.685
Come on, don't be shy.

00:44:29.685 --> 00:44:31.202
[Laughter]

00:44:31.202 --> 00:44:32.902
You were full of questions, yesterday.

00:44:32.902 --> 00:44:34.702
[Laughter]

00:44:34.702 --> 00:44:40.404
All the things you asked me,

00:44:40.404 --> 00:44:46.669
now you have a wonderful opportunity.

00:44:46.669 --> 00:44:52.103
[Mirjana] If you remember something,
we can talk also today, no problem.

00:44:52.103 --> 00:44:56.186
I will be with you during lunch.

00:44:56.186 --> 00:44:58.958
Are you here for lunch today, or dinner?

00:44:58.958 --> 00:45:00.353
[Woman] Lunch.

00:45:00.353 --> 00:45:03.253
[Mirjana] Lunch. Okay.
I like that I am here.

00:45:03.253 --> 00:45:04.470
[Laughter]

00:45:04.470 --> 00:45:05.706
[Woman] Me, too.

00:45:05.706 --> 00:45:10.786
[Mirjana] My brother, they are
serving dinner.

00:45:10.786 --> 00:45:12.234
[Woman] Ohh.

00:45:12.234 --> 00:45:17.936
[Mirjana] Okay, if you don't have
any more questions...

00:45:17.936 --> 00:45:27.021
[Man] What would be the best way
to pray to know God's will?

00:45:27.021 --> 00:45:31.003
[Man] Your own walk with God,

00:45:31.003 --> 00:45:35.571
knowing that you are doing your best
to do the Lord's will.

00:45:35.571 --> 00:45:39.203
A personal discernment.

00:45:39.203 --> 00:45:46.161
[Mirjana] The best way 
to understand that

00:45:46.161 --> 00:45:48.589
is through prayer.

00:45:48.589 --> 00:45:54.937
When I need to decide something,
I always pray.

00:45:54.937 --> 00:46:01.453
Then, there are various options
ahead of me.

00:46:01.453 --> 00:46:06.467
When I feel peace,

00:46:06.467 --> 00:46:11.269
then I know I made a good call.

00:46:11.269 --> 00:46:16.069
I always ask God to guide me.

00:46:16.069 --> 00:46:25.704
Because, alone, I am not able to do it.

00:46:25.704 --> 00:46:29.837
But with Him, I can do everything.

00:46:29.837 --> 00:46:37.704
[Woman: unintelligible]

00:46:37.704 --> 00:46:40.019
[Laughter]

00:46:40.019 --> 00:46:43.639
[Woman] We feel the presence.
We just know God is with you,

00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:46.193
and with us, and thank you, for that.

00:46:46.193 --> 00:46:51.520
[Mirjana] Our Lady is always with us,
if we call Her.

00:46:51.520 --> 00:47:03.305
One mother on earth. She will
never turn her back on her children.

00:47:03.305 --> 00:47:09.072
Can you just imagine
Our Heavenly Mother?

00:47:09.072 --> 00:47:13.438
It is enough to say

00:47:13.438 --> 00:47:16.488
That we want Her,
and we need Her.

00:47:16.488 --> 00:47:25.238
The fact that She is with us,
as She said in Her numerous messages,

00:47:25.238 --> 00:47:36.705
"The fact that I am with you
shows you how much God loves you."

00:47:36.705 --> 00:47:42.011
To show us the true path.

00:47:42.011 --> 00:47:47.339
It is up to us to respond.

00:47:47.339 --> 00:47:58.387
There is a nice anecdote 
with Father Slavko.

00:47:58.387 --> 00:48:05.306
I don't know if any of you
met or remember Father Slavko?

00:48:05.306 --> 00:48:12.157
That is his picture, over there.

00:48:12.157 --> 00:48:15.054
He was my husband's uncle.

00:48:15.054 --> 00:48:19.806
We saw each other
every single day.

00:48:19.806 --> 00:48:23.472
One on occasion, he told me,

00:48:23.472 --> 00:48:27.242
a lady approached him.

00:48:27.242 --> 00:48:37.722
She told him, "When I pray,
my thoughts wander.

00:48:37.722 --> 00:48:42.155
What do you advise, Father?"

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He replied, "People who don't pray
don't have those problems.

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So, insist."

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We can finish with a Hail Mary.

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[Man] In the name of the Father,
the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

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[All] Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,

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Our Lord is with Thee.

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Blessed art Thou among women, and

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Blessed is the fruit of Thy womb,
Jesus.

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Holy Mary, Mother of God,

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Pray for us sinners,

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Now, and in the hour of our death.

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Amen.

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Pray for us.