1 00:00:00,589 --> 00:00:07,856 [Music] 2 00:00:07,856 --> 00:00:11,241 [Mirjana] [Translator] Here, the faith was not free. 3 00:00:11,241 --> 00:00:16,173 We were allowed to go to Holy Mass on Sundays. 4 00:00:16,173 --> 00:00:22,755 And, that was it. That was what we could do. 5 00:00:22,755 --> 00:00:28,939 The rest of religious life was taking place at home. 6 00:00:28,939 --> 00:00:33,820 Our parents taught us to pray. 7 00:00:33,820 --> 00:00:39,643 We prayed Holy Rosary every evening together. 8 00:00:39,643 --> 00:00:45,573 But, they did not talk about the faith, much. 9 00:00:45,573 --> 00:00:48,486 Because, they were afraid. 10 00:00:48,486 --> 00:00:54,335 As kids, we cannot speak about it in school. 11 00:00:54,335 --> 00:00:59,154 If so, they could have problems. 12 00:00:59,154 --> 00:01:07,005 That is why I had never heard about Lourdes, or Fatima. 13 00:01:07,005 --> 00:01:13,280 I didn't know that Our Lady could come here to earth 14 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,873 in such a way. 15 00:01:15,873 --> 00:01:21,604 I thought she is up in Heaven, and we pray. 16 00:01:21,604 --> 00:01:27,937 When Ivanka told me that she thought 17 00:01:27,937 --> 00:01:31,819 Our Lady is up on the hill, 18 00:01:31,819 --> 00:01:39,471 I was kind of rude. I had a rude response. 19 00:01:39,471 --> 00:01:46,522 I told her, "Right. She hasn't got better things to do?" 20 00:01:46,522 --> 00:01:50,506 "And she came to the two of us?" 21 00:01:50,516 --> 00:01:57,861 And I left her there, and I wanted to return to the village. 22 00:01:57,861 --> 00:02:02,287 But, when I got to the first houses, 23 00:02:02,287 --> 00:02:07,637 I felt this call within me. 24 00:02:07,637 --> 00:02:15,251 I had to return back. When I got there, 25 00:02:15,251 --> 00:02:20,839 I saw Ivanka standing at the very same spot. 26 00:02:20,839 --> 00:02:26,773 She told me, "Look now, please." 27 00:02:26,773 --> 00:02:34,322 I saw a woman in a long, greyish gown, 28 00:02:34,322 --> 00:02:39,106 who was holding a baby in her arms. 29 00:02:39,106 --> 00:02:43,140 Everything was really strange. 30 00:02:43,140 --> 00:02:48,189 Because, no one went to the hill. 31 00:02:48,189 --> 00:02:54,265 Especially not a person in a long gown 32 00:02:54,265 --> 00:02:56,927 with a baby in their arms. 33 00:02:56,927 --> 00:03:03,772 At that very moment, I felt all possible emotions 34 00:03:03,772 --> 00:03:08,091 that we are able to feel. 35 00:03:08,091 --> 00:03:15,922 Pride. Beauty. Incomprehension. 36 00:03:15,922 --> 00:03:18,225 Fear. 37 00:03:18,225 --> 00:03:24,889 And, what was the most intense emotion 38 00:03:24,889 --> 00:03:31,171 was the need to flee this place. 39 00:03:31,171 --> 00:03:35,072 I ran back home. 40 00:03:35,072 --> 00:03:40,239 When I got home, I found my grandmother 41 00:03:40,239 --> 00:03:44,723 and I told her, right away: 42 00:03:44,723 --> 00:03:48,739 "Granny, I think I saw Our Lady up on the hill." 43 00:03:48,739 --> 00:03:59,264 She told me "Take the Holy Rosary. Go to your room, and pray." 44 00:03:59,294 --> 00:04:06,877 "Leave Our Lady where she is." 45 00:04:06,877 --> 00:04:17,255 I didn't have the strength to explain everything to Granny. 46 00:04:17,255 --> 00:04:22,556 I just wanted to be alone, in prayer. 47 00:04:22,556 --> 00:04:27,456 That was the only way I had peace. 48 00:04:27,456 --> 00:04:34,174 The following day, I was helping my uncles, 49 00:04:34,174 --> 00:04:38,190 like every day before that. 50 00:04:38,190 --> 00:04:48,557 But, when the time came that I saw Our Lady the day before, 51 00:04:48,557 --> 00:04:54,039 I felt this calling, again. 52 00:04:54,039 --> 00:05:01,773 I told my uncle that I had to go to the hill 53 00:05:01,773 --> 00:05:05,608 because something has been calling me. 54 00:05:05,608 --> 00:05:08,707 When we got there, 55 00:05:08,707 --> 00:05:16,898 nearly half the village was there, already. 56 00:05:16,898 --> 00:05:24,527 Someone came with every visionary. 57 00:05:24,527 --> 00:05:29,389 We saw Our Lady at the very same place. 58 00:05:29,389 --> 00:05:34,893 This time, she was not carrying a baby in her arms. 59 00:05:34,893 --> 00:05:41,991 On that day, 25 June 1981, 60 00:05:41,991 --> 00:05:47,239 was the first day we got to hear her. 61 00:05:47,239 --> 00:05:51,244 She introduced herself. 62 00:05:51,244 --> 00:05:57,374 She told us, "My dear children. Do not be afraid. 63 00:05:57,374 --> 00:06:00,675 I am the Queen of Peace." 64 00:06:00,675 --> 00:06:06,776 That is how our daily apparitions started. 65 00:06:06,776 --> 00:06:13,593 For a short while, we had the apparitions at the hill. 66 00:06:13,593 --> 00:06:21,575 As I said earlier, it was a time of communism. 67 00:06:21,575 --> 00:06:26,509 Shortly afterward, police came, with dogs. 68 00:06:26,509 --> 00:06:29,859 They surrounded the hill. 69 00:06:29,859 --> 00:06:36,009 Everyone there, eventually ended up in prison. 70 00:06:36,009 --> 00:06:43,746 In those first days, Our Lady showed some miracles. 71 00:06:43,746 --> 00:06:50,094 Nearly everyone from the village saw something. 72 00:06:50,094 --> 00:06:59,527 For example, there were two miraculous healings, right away. 73 00:06:59,527 --> 00:07:07,442 Then, the cross on Cross Mountain was disappearing, with 74 00:07:07,442 --> 00:07:12,501 Our Lady appearing on that spot, instead, 75 00:07:12,501 --> 00:07:15,753 dressed in white. 76 00:07:15,753 --> 00:07:19,510 The local people saw this. 77 00:07:19,510 --> 00:07:25,208 I will give you an example what the situation was like. 78 00:07:25,208 --> 00:07:31,025 We, who had been brought up in communism, 79 00:07:31,025 --> 00:07:38,858 had learned how to be silent. 80 00:07:38,858 --> 00:07:44,238 The fewer words you say, the better for you. 81 00:07:44,238 --> 00:07:50,392 So, when the cross was disappearing at Cross Mountain, 82 00:07:50,392 --> 00:07:56,241 everyone was silent. They just looked at it. 83 00:07:56,241 --> 00:08:02,709 One young man was 25 at that time. 84 00:08:02,709 --> 00:08:10,519 He was unable to remain silent, because of the emotions he felt. 85 00:08:10,519 --> 00:08:19,739 He said, "Look! There is no cross! Our Lady is there, instead!" 86 00:08:19,739 --> 00:08:25,444 He was sentenced to prison for six months. 87 00:08:25,444 --> 00:08:29,294 That was the situation at that time. 88 00:08:29,294 --> 00:08:37,561 The word "Mir" was written in the sky. 89 00:08:37,561 --> 00:08:40,577 "Mir" means "Peace." 90 00:08:40,577 --> 00:08:44,960 At that time, Father Jozo was our parish priest. 91 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:53,761 When the police came to him, to tell him to close the church, 92 00:08:53,761 --> 00:08:57,910 because Holy Mass was now forbidden, 93 00:08:57,910 --> 00:09:03,994 Father Jozo said, "I saw with my own eyes, 94 00:09:03,994 --> 00:09:11,502 that the word Mir is written on the sky. 95 00:09:11,502 --> 00:09:15,444 I cannot close the church. 96 00:09:15,444 --> 00:09:21,290 Do with me as you will." 97 00:09:21,290 --> 00:09:24,742 He ended up in prison. 98 00:09:24,742 --> 00:09:30,279 But the local people had seen all of that. 99 00:09:30,279 --> 00:09:34,227 Knowing us as children, 100 00:09:34,227 --> 00:09:38,446 they trusted us, and they helped us. 101 00:09:38,446 --> 00:09:45,312 We had an apparition every evening at a different spot. 102 00:09:45,312 --> 00:09:56,945 I had daily apparitions like that, until Christmas, 1982. 103 00:09:56,945 --> 00:10:02,126 That is when Our Lady entrusted me with the 10th Secret. 104 00:10:02,126 --> 00:10:09,893 She told me I would no longer have daily apparitions. 105 00:10:09,893 --> 00:10:14,694 She told me it would be once a year. 106 00:10:14,694 --> 00:10:20,328 Every 18th of March, as long as I live. 107 00:10:20,328 --> 00:10:27,493 She also said I would have extraordinary apparitions. 108 00:10:27,493 --> 00:10:37,344 Those apparitions started on 2nd August, 1987. 109 00:10:37,344 --> 00:10:42,911 Those are ongoing until this day. 110 00:10:42,911 --> 00:10:47,462 I don't know how long I will have them. 111 00:10:47,462 --> 00:10:55,022 Those apparitions are also a prayer for unbelievers. 112 00:10:55,022 --> 00:11:00,632 Our Lady never calls them that. 113 00:11:00,632 --> 00:11:08,612 Because if you say about someone, "You're an unbeliever," 114 00:11:08,612 --> 00:11:12,346 you judged and condemned him. 115 00:11:12,346 --> 00:11:15,979 Our Lady never does that. 116 00:11:15,979 --> 00:11:23,127 She says "the ones that have not yet discovered the love of God." 117 00:11:23,127 --> 00:11:27,010 She is asking our help. 118 00:11:27,010 --> 00:11:30,447 When she says, "our help," 119 00:11:30,447 --> 00:11:36,611 she does not mean the six of us, the six visionaries. 120 00:11:36,611 --> 00:11:46,114 She means the help of everyone who feels she is their mother. 121 00:11:46,114 --> 00:11:53,027 She says we can change unbelievers, 122 00:11:53,027 --> 00:12:00,428 with our prayers, and by our example. 123 00:12:00,428 --> 00:12:12,029 She asks that we put prayers for them as a priority in our daily prayers. 124 00:12:12,029 --> 00:12:19,793 Most of the ugly things which happen in this world, 125 00:12:19,793 --> 00:12:23,762 comes from them. 126 00:12:23,762 --> 00:12:27,244 That is why Our Lady says, 127 00:12:27,244 --> 00:12:34,379 "When you pray for them, you pray for yourself, and your future." 128 00:12:34,379 --> 00:12:40,945 In addition to prayers, she asks for our example. 129 00:12:40,945 --> 00:12:46,178 She doesn't want us to preach. 130 00:12:46,178 --> 00:12:52,645 She asks us to speak with our own lives, 131 00:12:52,645 --> 00:13:01,462 so unbelievers can witness in us, God, and the love of God. 132 00:13:01,462 --> 00:13:11,996 I kindly request you consider this In the most serious way. 133 00:13:11,996 --> 00:13:21,938 If you could see the tears of Our Lady just once, 134 00:13:21,938 --> 00:13:26,380 the tears she cries for unbelievers, 135 00:13:26,380 --> 00:13:32,149 I am sure you would pray with all your heart. 136 00:13:32,149 --> 00:13:39,029 She says this is the time of great decision. 137 00:13:39,029 --> 00:13:47,295 She says it is up to us, who say we are children of God, 138 00:13:47,295 --> 00:13:52,713 that there is a great responsibility upon us. 139 00:13:52,713 --> 00:13:58,814 When she asks prayers for unbelievers, 140 00:13:58,814 --> 00:14:05,345 she would like us to try that in her way. 141 00:14:05,345 --> 00:14:12,729 That would be, the way I understood it: 142 00:14:12,729 --> 00:14:18,413 First, feel love for them. 143 00:14:18,413 --> 00:14:23,797 Feel they are our brothers and sisters 144 00:14:23,797 --> 00:14:27,430 who were not as lucky as we were, 145 00:14:27,430 --> 00:14:30,253 to feel the love of God. 146 00:14:30,253 --> 00:14:35,863 When we feel that way, we will be able to pray for them. 147 00:14:35,863 --> 00:14:40,814 Never judge, never condemn, never criticize. 148 00:14:40,814 --> 00:14:43,896 Simply love them. 149 00:14:43,896 --> 00:14:46,245 Pray for them. 150 00:14:46,245 --> 00:14:49,498 And, give your own example. 151 00:14:49,498 --> 00:14:53,514 Our example tells a lot. 152 00:14:53,514 --> 00:14:57,612 We all have unbelievers, 153 00:14:57,612 --> 00:15:05,782 in our house, somewhere nearby, at our workplace, 154 00:15:05,782 --> 00:15:12,712 and that unbeliever looks at us, and at our life. 155 00:15:12,712 --> 00:15:21,365 We must ask ourselves whether the love of God, 156 00:15:21,365 --> 00:15:26,948 is what they see in us. 157 00:15:26,948 --> 00:15:30,901 I will give you a nice example. 158 00:15:30,901 --> 00:15:35,397 One evening, when I went to Holy Mass in Medjugorje, 159 00:15:35,397 --> 00:15:38,702 our church was crowded. 160 00:15:38,702 --> 00:15:44,262 I am unable to stand up very long. 161 00:15:44,262 --> 00:15:50,914 I saw a small space on one of the pews. 162 00:15:50,914 --> 00:15:53,797 I sat down. 163 00:15:53,797 --> 00:15:59,633 Our brothers and sisters from Italy were there. 164 00:15:59,633 --> 00:16:02,349 When I sat down, 165 00:16:02,349 --> 00:16:06,865 they began to yell and complain. 166 00:16:06,865 --> 00:16:12,998 You know how temperamental our brothers and sisters 167 00:16:12,998 --> 00:16:16,299 from Italy are. 168 00:16:16,299 --> 00:16:22,134 They all said, "Get up! This is our bench!" 169 00:16:22,134 --> 00:16:25,501 "We got here, first!" 170 00:16:25,501 --> 00:16:29,450 So many words in just one moment. 171 00:16:29,450 --> 00:16:33,715 I got up, and I was silent. 172 00:16:33,715 --> 00:16:37,231 One lady approached me. 173 00:16:37,231 --> 00:16:39,998 She recognized me. 174 00:16:39,998 --> 00:16:45,065 She told them that I am one of the visionaries. 175 00:16:45,065 --> 00:16:49,799 They gave me the whole bench just for myself. 176 00:16:49,799 --> 00:16:52,116 [Laughter] 177 00:16:52,116 --> 00:16:54,799 The reason I tell you this: 178 00:16:54,799 --> 00:16:59,465 What do you think would happen 179 00:16:59,465 --> 00:17:03,265 if I was an unbeliever? 180 00:17:03,265 --> 00:17:08,516 And I was entering the church for the first time? 181 00:17:08,516 --> 00:17:16,733 And inside, are the ones who claim they know the love of God? 182 00:17:16,733 --> 00:17:22,832 And they behaved toward me in such a way? 183 00:17:22,832 --> 00:17:28,507 Would I ever enter the church again? 184 00:17:28,507 --> 00:17:33,082 And whose responsibility would that be? 185 00:17:33,082 --> 00:17:37,269 That is something that Our Lady tries to say. 186 00:17:37,269 --> 00:17:43,499 We can all learn to speak nicely. 187 00:17:43,499 --> 00:17:49,968 But, Our Lady wants our lives to speak, instead. 188 00:17:49,968 --> 00:17:57,531 That with our example, it can be shown 189 00:17:57,531 --> 00:18:00,502 that we are trying to live the love of God. 190 00:18:00,502 --> 00:18:04,334 In these apparitions of Medjugorje, 191 00:18:04,334 --> 00:18:09,051 the most important message of Our Lady 192 00:18:09,051 --> 00:18:12,202 is the Holy Mass. 193 00:18:12,202 --> 00:18:15,716 But, not solely on Sundays. 194 00:18:15,716 --> 00:18:18,318 When we were children, 195 00:18:18,318 --> 00:18:21,334 at the beginning of the apparitions, 196 00:18:21,334 --> 00:18:23,473 she said on one occasion, 197 00:18:23,473 --> 00:18:26,251 "If you have to choose 198 00:18:26,251 --> 00:18:32,527 between an apparition or Holy Mass, 199 00:18:32,527 --> 00:18:36,951 you should choose Holy Mass. 200 00:18:36,951 --> 00:18:39,269 Always. 201 00:18:39,269 --> 00:18:41,735 Because during Holy Mass, 202 00:18:41,735 --> 00:18:46,017 my Son is present, with you." 203 00:18:46,017 --> 00:18:50,049 Throughout all the years of apparitions of Our Lady, 204 00:18:50,049 --> 00:18:53,151 Our Lady never said, 205 00:18:53,151 --> 00:18:57,051 "Pray and I will give." 206 00:18:57,051 --> 00:18:59,884 She always says, 207 00:18:59,884 --> 00:19:07,616 "Pray, so I can pray, and ask my Son for you." 208 00:19:07,616 --> 00:19:12,235 That Jesus is always in the first place. 209 00:19:12,235 --> 00:19:18,203 Many pilgrims, when they come to Medjugorje, 210 00:19:18,203 --> 00:19:23,435 think that we visionaries are important. 211 00:19:23,435 --> 00:19:27,785 That it is enough to say something to us, 212 00:19:27,785 --> 00:19:33,769 that God listens to us more than to others, 213 00:19:33,769 --> 00:19:38,255 but that thinking is wrong. 214 00:19:38,265 --> 00:19:42,401 Because, for Our Lady as a mother, 215 00:19:42,401 --> 00:19:46,256 there are no privileged ones. 216 00:19:46,256 --> 00:19:50,917 For her, we are all her dear children. 217 00:19:50,917 --> 00:19:54,169 She chose us, 218 00:19:54,169 --> 00:19:58,452 to speak the messages to us. 219 00:19:58,452 --> 00:20:05,256 But, she chose every single one of you. 220 00:20:05,256 --> 00:20:12,718 That is something she said in one of the January 2nd messages. 221 00:20:12,718 --> 00:20:17,054 She said, "Dear children, 222 00:20:17,054 --> 00:20:20,470 I have invited you. 223 00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:22,784 Open your hearts. 224 00:20:22,784 --> 00:20:27,500 Let me in, so that I can 225 00:20:27,500 --> 00:20:32,087 make you my apostles." 226 00:20:32,087 --> 00:20:36,369 So, in the eyes of our Holy Mother, 227 00:20:36,369 --> 00:20:40,454 we have the same importance. 228 00:20:40,454 --> 00:20:46,490 There are none whom she listens to more, or less. 229 00:20:46,490 --> 00:20:51,153 I learned, at the very beginning of the apparitions. 230 00:20:51,153 --> 00:20:58,503 You heard when I said "my uncle, my grandmother." 231 00:20:58,503 --> 00:21:04,256 Because I am the only one of us six visionaries 232 00:21:04,256 --> 00:21:09,787 who was not born here, nor grew up here. 233 00:21:09,787 --> 00:21:14,262 My parents are from here. 234 00:21:14,262 --> 00:21:20,509 But, when they married, they moved to Sarajevo. 235 00:21:20,509 --> 00:21:26,495 So, I was born and raised there. 236 00:21:26,495 --> 00:21:35,279 I always visited here, because the rest of my family was here. 237 00:21:35,279 --> 00:21:38,757 But when the apparitions began, 238 00:21:38,757 --> 00:21:44,258 because the communists wanted to stop everything, 239 00:21:44,258 --> 00:21:50,803 I was returned by force to Sarajevo. 240 00:21:50,803 --> 00:21:56,233 Here, where you are now, in this zone, 241 00:21:56,233 --> 00:22:01,768 is populated by Croatians. 242 00:22:01,768 --> 00:22:05,505 Croatians are Catholic. 243 00:22:05,505 --> 00:22:12,557 Here, the communist police were 'Croatian,' 244 00:22:12,557 --> 00:22:19,277 and, when they took us for interrogations, 245 00:22:19,277 --> 00:22:24,270 they yelled, they swore at us, 246 00:22:24,270 --> 00:22:27,089 but nothing else. 247 00:22:27,089 --> 00:22:29,261 But, in Sarajevo, 248 00:22:29,261 --> 00:22:33,762 the situation was completely different. 249 00:22:33,762 --> 00:22:38,569 In Sarajevo, there were true communists. 250 00:22:38,569 --> 00:22:42,501 And, mainly Muslims. 251 00:22:42,501 --> 00:22:46,253 Every single day, they came to my house. 252 00:22:46,253 --> 00:22:51,437 They would destroy everything around. 253 00:22:51,437 --> 00:22:55,554 And, they would take me with them. 254 00:22:55,554 --> 00:22:59,503 I was just 15, then. 255 00:22:59,503 --> 00:23:05,953 I never knew if I would ever return home. 256 00:23:05,953 --> 00:23:10,923 I thought Our Lady would help me. 257 00:23:10,923 --> 00:23:14,769 But, when I would have an apparition, 258 00:23:14,769 --> 00:23:26,518 she told me the same things as told to the other visionaries. 259 00:23:26,518 --> 00:23:33,404 Nothing regarding me, or my situation. 260 00:23:33,404 --> 00:23:40,356 I don't need to tell you how alone and abandoned I felt. 261 00:23:40,356 --> 00:23:45,887 The five of them were here, together, 262 00:23:45,887 --> 00:23:50,539 in the village that loves and supports them. 263 00:23:50,539 --> 00:23:58,492 But in Sarajevo, I had only my parents and my brother. 264 00:23:58,492 --> 00:24:10,746 Everyone else was forced to distance themselves from us. 265 00:24:10,746 --> 00:24:15,571 But, through prayer, 266 00:24:15,571 --> 00:24:18,735 I understood, 267 00:24:18,735 --> 00:24:21,421 for God, for Our Lady, 268 00:24:21,421 --> 00:24:24,705 there are no privileged ones. 269 00:24:24,705 --> 00:24:27,370 If you are having a hard time, 270 00:24:27,370 --> 00:24:30,439 take the Rosary, and pray. 271 00:24:30,439 --> 00:24:33,953 God will not leave you alone. 272 00:24:33,953 --> 00:24:37,155 When I felt that in my heart, 273 00:24:37,155 --> 00:24:41,755 I was able to deal with 274 00:24:41,755 --> 00:24:45,223 everything that hurt me, 275 00:24:45,223 --> 00:24:48,505 with far more strength. 276 00:24:48,505 --> 00:24:52,121 Also, now, in Medjugorje, 277 00:24:52,121 --> 00:24:55,822 many times, people say, 278 00:24:55,822 --> 00:24:59,538 "I had a healing, 279 00:24:59,538 --> 00:25:04,505 I got to know the love of God." 280 00:25:04,505 --> 00:25:10,323 I have never met many of those people, in my life. 281 00:25:10,323 --> 00:25:16,105 So, I was not the one who prayed for them. 282 00:25:16,105 --> 00:25:19,323 They had open hearts. 283 00:25:19,323 --> 00:25:23,387 They asked for Mother's help. 284 00:25:23,387 --> 00:25:29,519 She asked her Son, for them. 285 00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:34,760 I am telling you this, so you may understand 286 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:40,724 when you need Our Lady, our Mother, 287 00:25:40,724 --> 00:25:45,373 you do not need visionaries. 288 00:25:45,373 --> 00:25:50,604 The only thing you need is an open heart. 289 00:25:50,604 --> 00:25:53,754 Our Lady says, 290 00:25:53,754 --> 00:25:58,555 "Open your heart, and I will be with you." 291 00:25:58,555 --> 00:26:01,740 So, it is up to us, 292 00:26:01,740 --> 00:26:08,623 if we want our Mother with us, to be at our side. 293 00:26:08,623 --> 00:26:13,623 Our Lady asked for prayer in families. 294 00:26:13,623 --> 00:26:23,590 She says nothing unites family as well as praying together. 295 00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:35,526 She says parents have a great responsibility to their children. 296 00:26:35,526 --> 00:26:44,406 Because, they are the ones who should put the rules of faith 297 00:26:44,406 --> 00:26:46,740 in their children. 298 00:26:46,740 --> 00:26:50,658 They can, if they pray together, 299 00:26:50,658 --> 00:26:54,622 and if they go to Holy Mass. 300 00:26:54,622 --> 00:27:02,224 We cannot talk to children about the importance of Holy Mass, 301 00:27:02,224 --> 00:27:10,435 unless they see that we put Holy Mass In first priority. 302 00:27:10,435 --> 00:27:16,481 We cannot speak about the importance of prayer, 303 00:27:16,481 --> 00:27:19,791 if they do not see us praying. 304 00:27:19,791 --> 00:27:26,493 That is why Our Lady says the parents have great responsibility. 305 00:27:26,493 --> 00:27:34,491 Because children know what they see in their homes and families. 306 00:27:34,491 --> 00:27:37,158 And, they see a lot, 307 00:27:37,158 --> 00:27:41,250 way more than we think. 308 00:27:41,250 --> 00:27:47,691 I always like to give this nice example from my family: 309 00:27:47,691 --> 00:27:54,517 When my older daughter, Marija, was just two, 310 00:27:54,517 --> 00:27:59,941 I had not talked to her about the apparitions. 311 00:27:59,941 --> 00:28:07,776 I thought, at age two, she is unable to comprehend anything. 312 00:28:07,776 --> 00:28:16,473 One day, when she was playing with a friend, in her room, 313 00:28:16,473 --> 00:28:26,190 I heard her friend say, "My mother drives a car." 314 00:28:26,190 --> 00:28:34,459 Since I don't drive, Marija was silent a moment. 315 00:28:34,459 --> 00:28:41,089 Then she said, "Big deal, to drive a car. 316 00:28:41,089 --> 00:28:46,724 My mother talks to Our Lady every single day." 317 00:28:46,724 --> 00:28:49,641 [Laughter] 318 00:28:49,641 --> 00:28:53,328 Without me saying anything, she understood. 319 00:28:53,328 --> 00:28:58,309 That is why it is important for children to see 320 00:28:58,309 --> 00:29:04,259 that for their mother and father, God is the first priority. 321 00:29:04,259 --> 00:29:08,497 Our Lady asks us to fast. 322 00:29:08,497 --> 00:29:14,008 Bread and water, Fridays and Wednesdays. 323 00:29:14,008 --> 00:29:21,877 She does not ask people who are ill, to fast. 324 00:29:21,877 --> 00:29:29,767 She said that, through prayer, they will understand 325 00:29:29,767 --> 00:29:33,526 other things they can do. 326 00:29:33,526 --> 00:29:38,110 If you never fasted two days a week, 327 00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:43,092 if you never prayed the Rosary every day, 328 00:29:43,092 --> 00:29:48,761 I would suggest you begin 329 00:29:48,761 --> 00:29:51,859 the way Our Lady showed us to begin. 330 00:29:51,859 --> 00:29:55,501 First thing she asked: 331 00:29:55,501 --> 00:30:03,261 Seven Our Fathers, Hail Mary, Glory Be, and Creed. 332 00:30:03,261 --> 00:30:09,193 Then, she asked for the first part of the Rosary. 333 00:30:09,193 --> 00:30:13,257 And, that we fast on Fridays. 334 00:30:13,257 --> 00:30:22,340 Also, it is not necessary that you begin with bread and water. 335 00:30:22,340 --> 00:30:29,231 You can begin by not eating meat on Fridays. 336 00:30:29,231 --> 00:30:35,762 Catholics never ate meat on Fridays. 337 00:30:35,762 --> 00:30:39,276 That can be a beginning. 338 00:30:39,276 --> 00:30:45,540 After a while, Our Lady asked for the second part of the Rosary. 339 00:30:45,540 --> 00:30:48,459 And then third (part of Rosary), 340 00:30:48,459 --> 00:30:52,475 and that we fast on Wednesdays, as well. 341 00:30:52,475 --> 00:30:55,409 She was going step by step. 342 00:30:55,409 --> 00:31:01,512 That is an example for us. 343 00:31:01,512 --> 00:31:06,810 What is important is to go with her. 344 00:31:06,810 --> 00:31:09,225 When you fall, 345 00:31:09,225 --> 00:31:14,445 she will give you a hand to get up. 346 00:31:14,445 --> 00:31:19,860 It is important to start 347 00:31:19,860 --> 00:31:23,726 walking with her. 348 00:31:23,726 --> 00:31:28,293 I would recommend you all, 349 00:31:28,293 --> 00:31:31,260 present here with me, 350 00:31:31,260 --> 00:31:35,694 don't begin fasting here. 351 00:31:35,694 --> 00:31:38,361 Once you return home, 352 00:31:38,361 --> 00:31:40,610 then begin. 353 00:31:40,610 --> 00:31:47,361 I don't want any of you to become dizzy, 354 00:31:47,361 --> 00:31:51,130 especially now. 355 00:31:51,130 --> 00:31:54,736 Who will take you to the hospital? 356 00:31:54,736 --> 00:31:56,776 [Laughter] 357 00:31:56,776 --> 00:31:58,410 With this corona? 358 00:31:58,410 --> 00:32:03,244 Thank God, it is not here yet. 359 00:32:03,244 --> 00:32:09,159 But, that is my sisterly advice. 360 00:32:09,159 --> 00:32:13,010 Start at your homes. 361 00:32:13,010 --> 00:32:18,178 We will prepare simple food here. 362 00:32:18,178 --> 00:32:22,543 It is important for you to eat something. 363 00:32:22,543 --> 00:32:28,843 Our Lady also asks for Holy Bible in families. 364 00:32:28,843 --> 00:32:37,209 When she gives me a message, she does not explain it to me. 365 00:32:37,209 --> 00:32:42,234 She gives me the message 366 00:32:42,234 --> 00:32:45,727 in the very same way I am giving it to you. 367 00:32:45,727 --> 00:32:49,765 I need every one of you: 368 00:32:49,765 --> 00:32:53,477 Pray, read the messages, 369 00:32:53,477 --> 00:33:01,254 and try to discern what God wants from you. 370 00:33:01,254 --> 00:33:08,141 Those who have been following the messages 371 00:33:08,141 --> 00:33:11,943 on the 2nd of the month, 372 00:33:11,943 --> 00:33:15,827 you might notice that there are quite a lot. 373 00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:22,276 I remember it exactly the way Our Lady said it, 374 00:33:22,276 --> 00:33:27,460 just for two or three minutes, afterwards. 375 00:33:27,460 --> 00:33:31,761 That is why, always, at the Blue Cross, 376 00:33:31,761 --> 00:33:35,781 as soon as Our Lady leaves us, 377 00:33:35,781 --> 00:33:38,394 I tell the message. 378 00:33:38,394 --> 00:33:41,797 So, they write it down. 379 00:33:41,797 --> 00:33:46,710 Because, when I return to my room to pray, 380 00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:52,247 I can tell you what she talked about. 381 00:33:52,247 --> 00:33:57,728 But I am unable to repeat it word for word. 382 00:33:57,728 --> 00:34:02,996 I need the written message, myself, later, 383 00:34:02,996 --> 00:34:07,611 as I read and pray. 384 00:34:07,611 --> 00:34:14,198 That is also when Our Lady says, return to the Bible. 385 00:34:14,198 --> 00:34:18,112 I think we all have a Bible. 386 00:34:18,112 --> 00:34:23,644 But, I think Our Lady wants simple things. 387 00:34:23,644 --> 00:34:27,196 To open the Bible every single day, 388 00:34:27,196 --> 00:34:34,413 to read a line or two, no matter what. 389 00:34:34,413 --> 00:34:40,481 But, that the Bible is present, in our families. 390 00:34:40,481 --> 00:34:46,579 That the Bible is not there merely to say we have it, 391 00:34:47,499 --> 00:34:53,570 but we don't remember when we last touched the Bible. 392 00:34:54,430 --> 00:35:00,502 In the Bible, there are the answers we seek. 393 00:35:00,502 --> 00:35:07,161 Many pilgrims think 394 00:35:07,161 --> 00:35:10,695 that after this many years, 395 00:35:10,695 --> 00:35:14,028 it's a normal thing for me to have an apparition. 396 00:35:14,028 --> 00:35:15,996 That I am used to it. 397 00:35:15,996 --> 00:35:20,273 I have to tell you, that is not the case. 398 00:35:20,273 --> 00:35:24,746 Every time is like the first time. 399 00:35:24,746 --> 00:35:31,491 Every time, I prepare myself, with fasting and prayer. 400 00:35:31,491 --> 00:35:36,484 Two or three days before, I fast. 401 00:35:36,484 --> 00:35:41,505 The night before, I spend in prayer. 402 00:35:41,505 --> 00:35:49,163 With prayer, I can wait for tomorrow in a peaceful way. 403 00:35:49,163 --> 00:35:53,519 When I am with Our Lady, 404 00:35:53,519 --> 00:36:00,771 I believe that is the feeling people in Heaven, have. 405 00:36:00,771 --> 00:36:05,212 She leads our conversations. 406 00:36:05,212 --> 00:36:07,078 Not me. 407 00:36:07,078 --> 00:36:13,603 I can feel, within, what I may or may not ask. 408 00:36:14,493 --> 00:36:17,499 I never touched her. 409 00:36:17,499 --> 00:36:20,748 She never touched me. 410 00:36:20,748 --> 00:36:28,497 But, I never felt a need to touch her. 411 00:36:29,417 --> 00:36:32,663 When Our Lady looks at you, 412 00:36:32,663 --> 00:36:35,163 you have everything. 413 00:36:35,163 --> 00:36:38,981 You feel loved, protected. 414 00:36:38,981 --> 00:36:42,712 [Cries.] 415 00:36:42,712 --> 00:36:48,499 That is why I say you have no other desires. 416 00:36:48,499 --> 00:36:52,119 I will share an example with you. 417 00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:57,479 All mothers will understand. 418 00:36:57,479 --> 00:37:00,774 I am a mother. 419 00:37:00,774 --> 00:37:04,449 Like every mother, I would give my life for my children. 420 00:37:04,449 --> 00:37:07,998 But, when I am with Our Lady, 421 00:37:07,998 --> 00:37:11,264 I don't remember them. 422 00:37:11,264 --> 00:37:16,514 I am unaware that I have children. 423 00:37:16,514 --> 00:37:23,147 I just want her to look at me, 424 00:37:23,147 --> 00:37:26,314 and that I look at her. 425 00:37:26,314 --> 00:37:33,364 You can imagine the pain when she leaves. 426 00:37:33,364 --> 00:37:37,549 I always tell the message, 427 00:37:37,549 --> 00:37:41,630 then I go to my room, to pray. 428 00:37:41,630 --> 00:37:48,419 Through prayer, God helps me to understand, 429 00:37:48,419 --> 00:37:51,915 and to go forward. 430 00:37:51,915 --> 00:37:54,248 But, it is not easy. 431 00:37:54,248 --> 00:38:01,264 It is not easy to be with Her, and, then live this life of ours. 432 00:38:01,264 --> 00:38:08,592 If it were not for God's help, I don't know how we could do it. 433 00:38:09,452 --> 00:38:16,507 These are the things which I personally thought 434 00:38:16,507 --> 00:38:19,548 are the most important. 435 00:38:19,548 --> 00:38:21,524 And now, you. 436 00:38:21,524 --> 00:38:26,131 You can ask me about anything I didn't say. 437 00:38:26,131 --> 00:38:31,181 If I can, I will answer with my entire heart. 438 00:38:31,181 --> 00:38:37,298 Don't hold back. That is why we gather. 439 00:38:37,298 --> 00:38:41,318 To talk about our Mother. 440 00:38:42,438 --> 00:38:46,896 [Woman] I just wanted to say thank you. You suffer so much, for all of us. 441 00:38:47,740 --> 00:38:53,631 [Mirjana] I feel a bit uncomfortable, when people say such things. 442 00:38:53,631 --> 00:39:05,032 Our Lady teaches us we are lower than everyone else. 443 00:39:05,032 --> 00:39:10,898 Not that we are above, or special. 444 00:39:10,898 --> 00:39:13,636 Look at me and you. 445 00:39:13,636 --> 00:39:15,616 I am here. 446 00:39:15,616 --> 00:39:22,766 You left your home and country behind, 447 00:39:22,766 --> 00:39:26,633 despite corona, 448 00:39:26,633 --> 00:39:29,866 despite everything, 449 00:39:29,866 --> 00:39:32,866 you came to your Mother. 450 00:39:32,866 --> 00:39:40,182 So, I'm not really sure you are the one who should thank. 451 00:39:40,182 --> 00:39:46,467 [Woman] It is easy to see you suffer, lots. 452 00:39:46,467 --> 00:39:50,451 [Mirjana] I think that we all suffer, 453 00:39:50,451 --> 00:39:56,622 when we see those who do not want to know 454 00:39:56,622 --> 00:39:58,916 the love of God. 455 00:39:58,916 --> 00:40:03,651 Because, we know what awaits them. 456 00:40:03,651 --> 00:40:08,602 We can just trust in the love of God. 457 00:40:08,602 --> 00:40:14,850 I think he will judge us by love. 458 00:40:14,850 --> 00:40:18,900 Not the way we earned. 459 00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:31,035 [Laughter] 460 00:40:31,035 --> 00:40:36,817 This is Medjugorje, for me. 461 00:40:36,817 --> 00:40:42,450 When you see Americans, Canadians, Polish, 462 00:40:42,450 --> 00:40:49,083 we all speak about the same Mother. 463 00:40:49,083 --> 00:40:55,235 That is what Our Lady here in Medjugorje 464 00:40:55,235 --> 00:40:59,635 has been teaching us. 465 00:40:59,635 --> 00:41:17,116 [Man speaking foreign language.] 466 00:41:17,116 --> 00:41:20,035 [Mirjana] I didn't understand anything. 467 00:41:20,035 --> 00:41:21,516 [A 2nd man] Same, here. 468 00:41:21,516 --> 00:41:23,487 [Laughter] 469 00:41:23,487 --> 00:41:33,151 [Woman] He asked, um, How do you pray in your heart. 470 00:41:33,151 --> 00:41:38,367 [Mirjana] I understand. I will try to explain. 471 00:41:38,367 --> 00:41:44,701 Our Lady says, pray with your heart. 472 00:41:44,701 --> 00:41:51,169 I will share the way I understood it. 473 00:41:51,169 --> 00:41:54,867 For me, prayer with the heart 474 00:41:54,867 --> 00:42:01,400 is, that every word that comes out of my mouth 475 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,451 goes through my heart. 476 00:42:05,451 --> 00:42:09,988 For example, if I say "Our Father," 477 00:42:09,988 --> 00:42:18,333 that in my heart, I feel that God is my Father. 478 00:42:18,333 --> 00:42:24,701 So that, basically, I am living the things I am saying. 479 00:42:24,701 --> 00:42:29,434 As a sister, I would suggest 480 00:42:29,434 --> 00:42:34,101 that you do not waste your time 481 00:42:34,101 --> 00:42:38,036 judging your prayers. 482 00:42:38,036 --> 00:42:46,601 For me, it's important to try to pray better. 483 00:42:46,601 --> 00:42:51,585 [Man: unintelligible] 484 00:42:51,585 --> 00:43:04,301 Not one of us can say, "I pray the way God wants." 485 00:43:04,301 --> 00:43:10,268 "I am doing everything the way God wants." 486 00:43:10,268 --> 00:43:12,985 I am afraid of those people. 487 00:43:12,985 --> 00:43:16,501 There is something wrong, in that case. 488 00:43:16,501 --> 00:43:19,750 We all try. 489 00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:26,350 How successfully, God will judge. 490 00:43:26,350 --> 00:43:37,386 For me, it is important that we all try to pray better. 491 00:43:37,386 --> 00:43:39,268 [Woman] Do you think Our Lady 492 00:43:39,268 --> 00:43:41,253 would allow you to come to Canada? 493 00:43:41,253 --> 00:43:44,569 [Laughter] 494 00:43:44,569 --> 00:43:46,290 [2nd woman] We often wonder. 495 00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:47,434 [Laughter] 496 00:43:47,434 --> 00:43:49,171 [Mirjana] Thank you. 497 00:43:49,171 --> 00:43:51,952 For Our Lady, there is no such thing 498 00:43:51,952 --> 00:43:55,835 as Canada, America. 499 00:43:55,835 --> 00:44:00,152 The only thing she says is, "Dear children." 500 00:44:00,152 --> 00:44:05,570 So, in all of these years of apparitions, 501 00:44:05,570 --> 00:44:10,522 She never said "Dear Croatians." 502 00:44:10,522 --> 00:44:14,319 She never said my name. 503 00:44:14,319 --> 00:44:17,836 She says, "Dear children." 504 00:44:17,836 --> 00:44:26,421 Anyone else? 505 00:44:26,421 --> 00:44:29,685 Come on, don't be shy. 506 00:44:29,685 --> 00:44:31,202 [Laughter] 507 00:44:31,202 --> 00:44:32,902 You were full of questions, yesterday. 508 00:44:32,902 --> 00:44:34,702 [Laughter] 509 00:44:34,702 --> 00:44:40,404 All the things you asked me, 510 00:44:40,404 --> 00:44:46,669 now you have a wonderful opportunity. 511 00:44:46,669 --> 00:44:52,103 [Mirjana] If you remember something, we can talk also today, no problem. 512 00:44:52,103 --> 00:44:56,186 I will be with you during lunch. 513 00:44:56,186 --> 00:44:58,958 Are you here for lunch today, or dinner? 514 00:44:58,958 --> 00:45:00,353 [Woman] Lunch. 515 00:45:00,353 --> 00:45:03,253 [Mirjana] Lunch. Okay. I like that I am here. 516 00:45:03,253 --> 00:45:04,470 [Laughter] 517 00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:05,706 [Woman] Me, too. 518 00:45:05,706 --> 00:45:10,786 [Mirjana] My brother, they are serving dinner. 519 00:45:10,786 --> 00:45:12,234 [Woman] Ohh. 520 00:45:12,234 --> 00:45:17,936 [Mirjana] Okay, if you don't have any more questions... 521 00:45:17,936 --> 00:45:27,021 [Man] What would be the best way to pray to know God's will? 522 00:45:27,021 --> 00:45:31,003 [Man] Your own walk with God, 523 00:45:31,003 --> 00:45:35,571 knowing that you are doing your best to do the Lord's will. 524 00:45:35,571 --> 00:45:39,203 A personal discernment. 525 00:45:39,203 --> 00:45:46,161 [Mirjana] The best way to understand that 526 00:45:46,161 --> 00:45:48,589 is through prayer. 527 00:45:48,589 --> 00:45:54,937 When I need to decide something, I always pray. 528 00:45:54,937 --> 00:46:01,453 Then, there are various options ahead of me. 529 00:46:01,453 --> 00:46:06,467 When I feel peace, 530 00:46:06,467 --> 00:46:11,269 then I know I made a good call. 531 00:46:11,269 --> 00:46:16,069 I always ask God to guide me. 532 00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:25,704 Because, alone, I am not able to do it. 533 00:46:25,704 --> 00:46:29,837 But with Him, I can do everything. 534 00:46:29,837 --> 00:46:37,704 [Woman: unintelligible] 535 00:46:37,704 --> 00:46:40,019 [Laughter] 536 00:46:40,019 --> 00:46:43,639 [Woman] We feel the presence. We just know God is with you, 537 00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:46,193 and with us, and thank you, for that. 538 00:46:46,193 --> 00:46:51,520 [Mirjana] Our Lady is always with us, if we call Her. 539 00:46:51,520 --> 00:47:03,305 One mother on earth. She will never turn her back on her children. 540 00:47:03,305 --> 00:47:09,072 Can you just imagine Our Heavenly Mother? 541 00:47:09,072 --> 00:47:13,438 It is enough to say 542 00:47:13,438 --> 00:47:16,488 That we want Her, and we need Her. 543 00:47:16,488 --> 00:47:25,238 The fact that She is with us, as She said in Her numerous messages, 544 00:47:25,238 --> 00:47:36,705 "The fact that I am with you shows you how much God loves you." 545 00:47:36,705 --> 00:47:42,011 To show us the true path. 546 00:47:42,011 --> 00:47:47,339 It is up to us to respond. 547 00:47:47,339 --> 00:47:58,387 There is a nice anecdote with Father Slavko. 548 00:47:58,387 --> 00:48:05,306 I don't know if any of you met or remember Father Slavko? 549 00:48:05,306 --> 00:48:12,157 That is his picture, over there. 550 00:48:12,157 --> 00:48:15,054 He was my husband's uncle. 551 00:48:15,054 --> 00:48:19,806 We saw each other every single day. 552 00:48:19,806 --> 00:48:23,472 One on occasion, he told me, 553 00:48:23,472 --> 00:48:27,242 a lady approached him. 554 00:48:27,242 --> 00:48:37,722 She told him, "When I pray, my thoughts wander. 555 00:48:37,722 --> 00:48:42,155 What do you advise, Father?" 556 00:48:42,155 --> 00:48:53,992 He replied, "People who don't pray don't have those problems. 557 00:48:53,992 --> 00:48:58,122 So, insist." 558 00:48:58,122 --> 00:49:14,474 We can finish with a Hail Mary. 559 00:49:14,474 --> 00:49:18,189 [Man] In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. 560 00:49:18,189 --> 00:49:20,073 [All] Hail Mary, Full of Grace, 561 00:49:20,073 --> 00:49:22,208 Our Lord is with Thee. 562 00:49:22,208 --> 00:49:25,072 Blessed art Thou among women, and 563 00:49:25,072 --> 00:49:27,790 Blessed is the fruit of Thy womb, Jesus. 564 00:49:27,790 --> 00:49:30,110 Holy Mary, Mother of God, 565 00:49:30,110 --> 00:49:32,472 Pray for us sinners, 566 00:49:32,472 --> 00:49:35,508 Now, and in the hour of our death. 567 00:49:35,508 --> 00:49:37,224 Amen. 568 00:49:37,224 --> 00:49:44,791 Pray for us.