WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.000 How do you feel being the ordained persons? 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:09.560 Should we also take ordination? 00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:16.240 Being an ordained person, you feel free, at peace, oh so happy! 00:00:16.240 --> 00:00:22.520 That's actually true that when I first became a monk, how long ago, 37 years ago, 00:00:22.520 --> 00:00:26.320 I had nightmares. This is true. 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:29.118 I'd wake up in a sweat, 00:00:29.118 --> 00:00:33.780 in my nightmare, this is no exaggeration, this is how much I really, really wanted to be a monk. 00:00:33.780 --> 00:00:36.640 My nightmare was I was a lay person. 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:39.080 I thought I wasn't a monk after all. 00:00:39.080 --> 00:00:42.280 And I'd open my eyes and I'd see my robes next to the bed. 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:45.540 Ah, I'm a monk! I really am a monk! [laughter] 00:00:45.540 --> 00:00:48.400 And I'd just go to sleep in this very peaceful deep sleep. 00:00:48.400 --> 00:00:50.640 And that was about for a week. 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:54.080 That's how much I really loved being a monk and I never looked back. 00:00:54.080 --> 00:00:58.000 So that was my nightmare. I was terrified that I wasn't a monk. 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:00.520 So happy that I was a monk. So it's a great thing to be! 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:03.120 So that's how I feel being an ordained person. 00:01:03.120 --> 00:01:05.100 I don't know why many of you don't do it. 00:01:05.100 --> 00:01:09.040 Actually there's a problem now because we've got too many people wanting to become monks. 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:14.280 So even just this evening, one Sri Lankan person, a monk, wanted to come and visit for 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:17.480 the rains, had to tell the secretary, we've got no space. 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:21.560 There's another young man who wanted to become a monk, can't do it. 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:24.480 There's now too many people on the waiting list. 00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:26.960 So should you also take ordination? 00:01:26.960 --> 00:01:31.760 Yeah, take ordination but please build some more huts for the nuns and the monks first of all. 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:34.620 [laughter] So we've got a place to stay. 00:01:34.620 --> 00:01:36.510 So it really is a great thing to do. 00:01:36.510 --> 00:01:41.120 I don't know, maybe because of the global financial crisis that people are bankrupt 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:46.950 [laughter] they're becoming monks to escape the tax man and everybody else. 00:01:46.950 --> 00:01:48.270 I don't know. 00:01:48.270 --> 00:01:51.560 But anyway, that's how I feel about being ordained. 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:55.680 So who amongst the Bhikkhunis are going to answer the question? 00:01:55.680 --> 00:02:00.290 How do you feel? Okay, Bhikkhuni Satyamma. 00:02:00.290 --> 00:02:01.760 How do you feel about being..? 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:03.080 Bhikkhuni Satima: I feel great. 00:02:03.080 --> 00:02:05.080 Ajahn Brahm: Very good, no, come on, you've got to do it on the... 00:02:05.080 --> 00:02:08.440 Here we go. 00:02:08.440 --> 00:02:16.520 This is Bhikkhuni Satima here, how she feels being a Bhikkhuni. 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:21.160 Bhikkhuni Satima: I feel great, I felt the same too when I became a Bhikkhuni. 00:02:21.160 --> 00:02:28.600 That was, I think I was radiating with joy so much that I was at the airport and the 00:02:28.600 --> 00:02:34.120 flight attendant came up to me and says, Venerable, you can board the plane first. 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:37.120 So that was the first time that something like that happened too. 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:38.120 Ajahn Brahm: Very good. 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:39.120 Bhikkhuni Satima: So that was... 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:40.790 Ajahn Brahm: One of the privileges you get. 00:02:40.790 --> 00:02:45.500 Bhikkhuni Satima: Privileges, yes. [Laughter] 00:02:49.710 --> 00:02:52.210 Another Bhikkhuni: I feel similarly, 00:02:52.210 --> 00:02:57.240 I can't say that, you know, it's all peace and joy all the time. 00:02:57.240 --> 00:02:59.880 I brought my defilements with me. 00:02:59.880 --> 00:03:14.730 But I just, this is absolutely how I want to live. 00:03:14.730 --> 00:03:18.640 Ajahn Brahm: How long have you been a Bhikkhuni now? 00:03:18.640 --> 00:03:20.450 Bhikkhuni: Since 2003. 00:03:20.450 --> 00:03:22.823 Ajahn Brahm: Wow, that's eight, nine years. 00:03:22.823 --> 00:03:24.440 Bhikkhuni: Something like that. 00:03:24.440 --> 00:03:26.760 Ajahn Brahm: Very good. 00:03:26.760 --> 00:03:30.680 Bhikkhuni: But it's just a wonderful thing. 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:36.760 I'm just incredibly, it goes beyond grateful. 00:03:36.760 --> 00:03:39.360 I'm astounded that I get to do this. 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:41.140 Ajahn Brahm: Very good. 00:03:41.140 --> 00:03:42.880 Bhikkhuni Nirodha, want to have a go? 00:03:42.880 --> 00:03:47.000 Bhikkhuni: I just want to add whether anyone else should do it. 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:49.560 It takes huge commitment. 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:55.282 I think there's a phase in people's practice as lay people that they have kind of 00:03:55.282 --> 00:03:58.920 this idea, maybe they'd like to ordain. I think it's a beautiful phase. 00:03:58.920 --> 00:04:02.460 But it takes huge commitment. 00:04:02.460 --> 00:04:06.360 Ajahn Brahm: Just like a marriage, but it's much more fun than being married. 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:09.850 [laughter] Bhikkhuni: Precisely. 00:04:12.190 --> 00:04:16.040 Bhikkhuni Nirodha: I can't imagine doing anything else or being anything else. 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:21.480 So just a tremendous sense of gratitude to the Buddha and to everybody else who helped 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:24.320 to bring these ordinations about. 00:04:24.320 --> 00:04:26.680 So it's not only just a Bhikkhuni ordination. 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:32.760 First you ordain as a Samaneri, as an Anagarika, then as a Samaneri, then as a Bhikkhuni. 00:04:32.760 --> 00:04:38.640 So for me it's the culmination of many aspirations. 00:04:38.640 --> 00:04:44.840 And I wish everybody else would be able to do it. 00:04:44.840 --> 00:04:48.800 And I can't think of anything else, what I would like to do right now. 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:51.700 Thank you very much. 00:04:56.890 --> 00:04:59.640 Ajahn Brahm: Are you going to ordain? [far from mic] 00:04:59.640 --> 00:05:02.200 Attendant: I hope so. [laughter] 00:05:02.200 --> 00:05:03.360 Ajahn Brahm: Are you going to ordain? 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:06.080 Attendant: I would like to, I'd encourage it. 00:05:06.080 --> 00:05:09.560 Ajahn Brahm: Very good, very good. [laughter] 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:12.080 I knew that answer because he's coming to monastery. 00:05:12.080 --> 00:05:14.490 So it's very, very good. 00:05:14.490 --> 00:05:17.567 And one of the great benefits of being a monk 00:05:17.567 --> 00:05:21.360 is because we don't have kids, we lessen the 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:26.600 population of the world, so it means we're helping with stopping climate change. 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:30.360 The biggest problem with climate change is too big population, 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:34.950 so I really want sort-of to have the laws in Australia and other countries 00:05:34.950 --> 00:05:39.580 that every other man, 50% of men have to become monks for life [laughter] 00:05:39.580 --> 00:05:44.160 and 50% of the girls have to become nuns and that way the population will 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:48.650 go down, no climate change, we'll save the world [laughter] 00:05:48.650 --> 00:05:53.120 [Ajahn chuckles] What are you laughing at? That's actually serious. 00:05:53.120 --> 00:06:22.680 No, anyway, could you please...