1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,000 How do you feel being the ordained persons? 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,560 Should we also take ordination? 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:16,240 Being an ordained person, you feel free, at peace, oh so happy! 4 00:00:16,240 --> 00:00:22,520 That's actually true that when I first became a monk, how long ago, 37 years ago, 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,320 I had nightmares. This is true. 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,118 I'd wake up in a sweat, 7 00:00:29,118 --> 00:00:33,780 in my nightmare, this is no exaggeration, this is how much I really, really wanted to be a monk. 8 00:00:33,780 --> 00:00:36,640 My nightmare was I was a lay person. 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,080 I thought I wasn't a monk after all. 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,280 And I'd open my eyes and I'd see my robes next to the bed. 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,540 Ah, I'm a monk! I really am a monk! [laughter] 12 00:00:45,540 --> 00:00:48,400 And I'd just go to sleep in this very peaceful deep sleep. 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,640 And that was about for a week. 14 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,080 That's how much I really loved being a monk and I never looked back. 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,000 So that was my nightmare. I was terrified that I wasn't a monk. 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,520 So happy that I was a monk. So it's a great thing to be! 17 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,120 So that's how I feel being an ordained person. 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,100 I don't know why many of you don't do it. 19 00:01:05,100 --> 00:01:09,040 Actually there's a problem now because we've got too many people wanting to become monks. 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:14,280 So even just this evening, one Sri Lankan person, a monk, wanted to come and visit for 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,480 the rains, had to tell the secretary, we've got no space. 22 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,560 There's another young man who wanted to become a monk, can't do it. 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,480 There's now too many people on the waiting list. 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,960 So should you also take ordination? 25 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:31,760 Yeah, take ordination but please build some more huts for the nuns and the monks first of all. 26 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,620 [laughter] So we've got a place to stay. 27 00:01:34,620 --> 00:01:36,510 So it really is a great thing to do. 28 00:01:36,510 --> 00:01:41,120 I don't know, maybe because of the global financial crisis that people are bankrupt 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:46,950 [laughter] they're becoming monks to escape the tax man and everybody else. 30 00:01:46,950 --> 00:01:48,270 I don't know. 31 00:01:48,270 --> 00:01:51,560 But anyway, that's how I feel about being ordained. 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,680 So who amongst the Bhikkhunis are going to answer the question? 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,290 How do you feel? Okay, Bhikkhuni Satyamma. 34 00:02:00,290 --> 00:02:01,760 How do you feel about being..? 35 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,080 Bhikkhuni Satima: I feel great. 36 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,080 Ajahn Brahm: Very good, no, come on, you've got to do it on the... 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,440 Here we go. 38 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:16,520 This is Bhikkhuni Satima here, how she feels being a Bhikkhuni. 39 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,160 Bhikkhuni Satima: I feel great, I felt the same too when I became a Bhikkhuni. 40 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:28,600 That was, I think I was radiating with joy so much that I was at the airport and the 41 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:34,120 flight attendant came up to me and says, Venerable, you can board the plane first. 42 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,120 So that was the first time that something like that happened too. 43 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,120 Ajahn Brahm: Very good. 44 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,120 Bhikkhuni Satima: So that was... 45 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,790 Ajahn Brahm: One of the privileges you get. 46 00:02:40,790 --> 00:02:45,500 Bhikkhuni Satima: Privileges, yes. [Laughter] 47 00:02:49,710 --> 00:02:52,210 Another Bhikkhuni: I feel similarly, 48 00:02:52,210 --> 00:02:57,240 I can't say that, you know, it's all peace and joy all the time. 49 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,880 I brought my defilements with me. 50 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:14,730 But I just, this is absolutely how I want to live. 51 00:03:14,730 --> 00:03:18,640 Ajahn Brahm: How long have you been a Bhikkhuni now? 52 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:20,450 Bhikkhuni: Since 2003. 53 00:03:20,450 --> 00:03:22,823 Ajahn Brahm: Wow, that's eight, nine years. 54 00:03:22,823 --> 00:03:24,440 Bhikkhuni: Something like that. 55 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,760 Ajahn Brahm: Very good. 56 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,680 Bhikkhuni: But it's just a wonderful thing. 57 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:36,760 I'm just incredibly, it goes beyond grateful. 58 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,360 I'm astounded that I get to do this. 59 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,140 Ajahn Brahm: Very good. 60 00:03:41,140 --> 00:03:42,880 Bhikkhuni Nirodha, want to have a go? 61 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:47,000 Bhikkhuni: I just want to add whether anyone else should do it. 62 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,560 It takes huge commitment. 63 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:55,282 I think there's a phase in people's practice as lay people that they have kind of 64 00:03:55,282 --> 00:03:58,920 this idea, maybe they'd like to ordain. I think it's a beautiful phase. 65 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,460 But it takes huge commitment. 66 00:04:02,460 --> 00:04:06,360 Ajahn Brahm: Just like a marriage, but it's much more fun than being married. 67 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,850 [laughter] Bhikkhuni: Precisely. 68 00:04:12,190 --> 00:04:16,040 Bhikkhuni Nirodha: I can't imagine doing anything else or being anything else. 69 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:21,480 So just a tremendous sense of gratitude to the Buddha and to everybody else who helped 70 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,320 to bring these ordinations about. 71 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,680 So it's not only just a Bhikkhuni ordination. 72 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:32,760 First you ordain as a Samaneri, as an Anagarika, then as a Samaneri, then as a Bhikkhuni. 73 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:38,640 So for me it's the culmination of many aspirations. 74 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:44,840 And I wish everybody else would be able to do it. 75 00:04:44,840 --> 00:04:48,800 And I can't think of anything else, what I would like to do right now. 76 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,700 Thank you very much. 77 00:04:56,890 --> 00:04:59,640 Ajahn Brahm: Are you going to ordain? [far from mic] 78 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,200 Attendant: I hope so. [laughter] 79 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,360 Ajahn Brahm: Are you going to ordain? 80 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,080 Attendant: I would like to, I'd encourage it. 81 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,560 Ajahn Brahm: Very good, very good. [laughter] 82 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,080 I knew that answer because he's coming to monastery. 83 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,490 So it's very, very good. 84 00:05:14,490 --> 00:05:17,567 And one of the great benefits of being a monk 85 00:05:17,567 --> 00:05:21,360 is because we don't have kids, we lessen the 86 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:26,600 population of the world, so it means we're helping with stopping climate change. 87 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,360 The biggest problem with climate change is too big population, 88 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,950 so I really want sort-of to have the laws in Australia and other countries 89 00:05:34,950 --> 00:05:39,580 that every other man, 50% of men have to become monks for life [laughter] 90 00:05:39,580 --> 00:05:44,160 and 50% of the girls have to become nuns and that way the population will 91 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,650 go down, no climate change, we'll save the world [laughter] 92 00:05:48,650 --> 00:05:53,120 [Ajahn chuckles] What are you laughing at? That's actually serious. 93 00:05:53,120 --> 00:06:22,680 No, anyway, could you please...