[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.06,0:00:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Half-bell) Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.28,0:00:13.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bell) Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.81,0:00:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If our true nature is \Nno birth and no death Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.47,0:00:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it means that we are condemned\Nto live forever, Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.57,0:00:46.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,life after life. Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.23,0:00:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So to me the teaching\Nof no birth and no death Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.41,0:00:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not a solution, it is a problem. Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.95,0:00:56.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.35,0:01:01.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't understand how is it possible Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.67,0:01:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not to feel desperate and lost\Nwith this teaching, Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.03,0:01:11.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because this is\Nnot only thinking but also feeling. Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.37,0:01:16.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It does not help me and\Nit only creates more despair. Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.87,0:01:19.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I prefer to die at the end of this life, Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.69,0:01:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than to live again. Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.49,0:01:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sister)\NDear Thay, dear Sangha, Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.78,0:01:28.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our friend is saying Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.61,0:01:32.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the teaching about our true nature\Nof no birth, and no death, Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.90,0:01:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would appear to condemn us\Nto live forever. Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.66,0:01:40.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This teaching has, for him,\Nnot been a solution, Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.75,0:01:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a source of suffering,\N Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.46,0:01:45.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only intellectual suffering, Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.32,0:01:48.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a real feeling of fear and despair. Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.56,0:01:51.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To him it seems much more appealing, Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.20,0:01:53.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If he could die and be born again Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.72,0:01:56.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if he could die. Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.84,0:01:58.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.66,0:02:02.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because if we die,\Nlife is short and really intense, Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.10,0:02:05.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we can enjoy it as much as possible. Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.08,0:02:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if we continue to live, Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.61,0:02:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sooner or later we will be really bored. Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.56,0:02:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.02,0:02:20.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are two types of people. Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.40,0:02:22.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.80,0:02:28.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many of us want to live forever, Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.60,0:02:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are really afraid of dying. Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.25,0:02:35.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is why in the history of mankind, Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.24,0:02:39.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many people are seeking immortality. Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.15,0:02:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Taoism, they try to find all kinds\Nof herbs, medicines and chemicals, Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.27,0:02:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to be immortal. Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.19,0:03:05.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Immortality is what they seek, Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.25,0:03:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and underneath\Nthat kind of wish, of desire, Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.26,0:03:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is the fear of annihilation, Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.66,0:03:28.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fear of non-being. Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.45,0:03:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't want to pass\Nfrom the realm of being, Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.03,0:03:35.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the realm of non-being,\Nit is very frightening. Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.44,0:03:40.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to understand the mentality\Nof those who are seeking immortality, Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.21,0:03:42.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are afraid of dying. Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.16,0:03:46.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are suffering\Nwith that kind of view. Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.75,0:03:50.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are seeking for immortality, Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.06,0:03:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,afraid of non-being. Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.75,0:04:00.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the other hand, Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.88,0:04:04.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are those\Nwho are tired of life. Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.59,0:04:15.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They get bored after 50, 70, \Nor maybe after 30 years. Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.81,0:04:22.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They find that life is unbearable. Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.12,0:04:28.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are seeking non-being. Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.08,0:04:34.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of them think\Nthat to commit suicide, Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.88,0:04:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a way to end the suffering Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.28,0:04:41.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to pass from the realm\Nof being into non-being. Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.63,0:04:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That kind of wish\Nis also based on a wrong view, Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.28,0:04:54.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there is something\Nyou call non-being, Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.64,0:04:57.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,non-existence, Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.02,0:05:01.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,annihilation, Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.25,0:05:10.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you'd like to go there,\Nit is better if you don't suffer anymore, Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.19,0:05:15.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is no longer boring. Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.30,0:05:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you aspire to non-being, Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.11,0:05:22.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to annihilation, Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.17,0:05:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that kind of desire is based\Non all sorts of wrong views. Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.72,0:05:30.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the right view is Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.58,0:05:35.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that birth and death,\Nlife and death,\N Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.11,0:05:38.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they always go together. Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.42,0:05:41.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You cannot take one out of the other. Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.10,0:05:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are looking for death, Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.57,0:05:50.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you try to leave life behind. Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.20,0:05:53.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is something impossible. Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.90,0:05:59.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they always want to be together,\Nlike the left and the right. Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.45,0:06:02.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You cannot take the left out of the right, Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.74,0:06:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the right out of the left, Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.72,0:06:08.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the law we discover\Nwhen looking deeply. Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.100,0:06:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We see that this is a manifestation only. Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.39,0:06:21.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The notion of left and right\Nis more in our heads, Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.27,0:06:24.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our thinking, Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.25,0:06:26.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than in reality. Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.32,0:06:30.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So all the notions like boring, not boring, Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.42,0:06:33.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suffering and happiness,\Nbeing and non-being, Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.15,0:06:38.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come more from\Nour mind of discrimination, Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.05,0:06:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from our mind of mental constructions,\Nother than from reality. Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.10,0:06:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We behave as if we know\Nwhat reality is. Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.31,0:06:56.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We only have to deal with reality. Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.59,0:07:00.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the reality we think we know, Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.50,0:07:03.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is only a construction of our mind. Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.75,0:07:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Birth and death are also\Na construction of your mind. Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.36,0:07:14.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not reality. Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.10,0:07:17.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have learnt in this retreat Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.23,0:07:20.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that birth, life and death,\Nbirth and death, Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.59,0:07:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are notions more than reality. Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.79,0:07:27.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Being and non-being\Nis a pair of opposites Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.16,0:07:36.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is there as the foundation\Nof the notions of birth and death. Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.32,0:07:39.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your question reveals Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.10,0:07:42.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you still believe Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.91,0:07:46.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a self, in a soul, Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.05,0:07:50.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that remains the same always. Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.54,0:07:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in reality there is nothing like that. Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.30,0:07:55.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is nothing\Nthat can remain the same\N Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.03,0:07:58.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in two consecutive moments. Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.94,0:08:04.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So who is bored? Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.74,0:08:08.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the you of this moment Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.65,0:08:13.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is no longer the same you\Nfrom the previous moment. Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.81,0:08:19.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you haven't gone deep enough, Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.21,0:08:25.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and touched the true nature of \Nno birth and no death, Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.98,0:08:30.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no self and no other,\Nno being and no non-being. Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.64,0:08:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those who seek Nirvana, Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.00,0:08:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they may think\Nthat when you touch Nirvana, Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.82,0:08:51.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't have to be reborn any more, Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.14,0:08:56.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you belong [now] \Nto the realm of non-being. Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.02,0:09:04.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the most misleading\Nview about Nirvana, Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.72,0:09:10.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Nirvana is an eternal death. Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.99,0:09:14.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For some people\Neternal death is salvation. Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.28,0:09:19.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because then you don't have\Nto be reborn and to suffer. Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.12,0:09:24.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is a wrong view. Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.24,0:09:29.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many people - including some\NWestern scholars of Buddhism - Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.54,0:09:36.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they believe that the aim of Buddhism\Nis to get eternal death: Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.18,0:09:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complete eternal non-being. Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.98,0:09:51.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the Buddha\Nhas many times denied that: Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.61,0:09:54.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Our aim is not to reach nothingness, Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.63,0:10:02.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to reach annihilation." Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.62,0:10:04.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He has said so many times that: Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.51,0:10:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I am not teaching annihilation. Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.03,0:10:11.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My view is the kind of insight Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.87,0:10:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that transcends both notions - \Nannihilation and permanence." Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.91,0:10:23.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is a pair of opposites. Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.50,0:10:32.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Immortality is one extreme. Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.04,0:10:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The immortal soul that can never die, Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.56,0:10:43.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is one extreme. Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.77,0:10:49.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Annihilation is another extreme. Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.11,0:10:52.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So right view is the kind of insight\Nthat transcends both notions, Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.45,0:10:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,immortality Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.17,0:11:04.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and non-being, annihilation. Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.100,0:11:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Meditation is for removing\Nthese kinds of notions. Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.54,0:11:14.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are many pairs of notions\Nwe have to remove. Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.20,0:11:18.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when you are able\Nto remove these notions, Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.20,0:11:20.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have peace. Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.40,0:11:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't worry anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.08,0:11:25.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Especially you don't believe in a self, Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.45,0:11:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has to go through Samsara's\Nbirth and death. Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.70,0:11:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no birth and death. Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.09,0:11:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no self\Ngoing through birth and death. Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.74,0:11:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of that are only notions. Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.09,0:11:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you get that kind of insight,\Nyou are light, Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.50,0:11:50.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are no longer afraid. Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.22,0:11:56.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see that everything renews itself,\Nall the time. Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.53,0:11:59.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Joy and happiness are possible, Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.30,0:12:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the transformation\Nof suffering is possible. Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.84,0:12:09.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can help so many people\Nto suffer less. Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.14,0:12:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Life has a meaning. Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.84,0:12:16.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't tire yourself out.\NYou don't get bored. Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.06,0:12:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because know your life has a meaning, Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.28,0:12:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your life is useful. Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.42,0:12:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can generate\Nthe energy of compassion and joy, Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.18,0:12:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to help heal the world. Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.40,0:12:42.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no need\Nfor a permanent self, a soul, Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.07,0:12:50.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ot the view of impermanence, \Nthe view of immortality, Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.60,0:12:52.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the view of annihilation, Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.82,0:12:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you are free\Nof all of these. Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.99,0:12:57.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nirvana is possible, Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.67,0:13:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the extinction of that kind\Nof suffering and afflictions. Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.87,0:13:06.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like fear, anger and despair. Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.45,0:13:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The extinction of these afflictions\Nis possible only, Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.80,0:13:16.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you can extinguish notions\Nlike birth and death, Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.94,0:13:19.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being and non-being, Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.14,0:13:25.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we can define Nirvana\Nin very clear terms: Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.01,0:13:29.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the absence of notions, Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.17,0:13:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the absence of suffering born\Non the basis of these notions. Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.26,0:13:39.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.87,0:13:41.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very good! Good smile! Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.81,0:13:43.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.78,0:13:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very good smile. Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.41,0:13:50.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Half-Bell) Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.46,0:14:00.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Bell)