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Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.08,0:00:27.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hello friends, today is Thursday the 20th\NAugust 2020 and tonight I have the privilege
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.42,0:00:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be with Jean-Dominique Michel\NHi Jean-Dominique!
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.32,0:00:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Good evening Sylvano!\NNow you have become famous and
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.16,0:00:41.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,famous throughout the French-speaking world\Nwith the covid crisis,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.73,0:00:46.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but tell us before this\Ncrisis, Jean-Dominique Michel
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.29,0:00:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what was he doing?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.00,0:00:53.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am a health anthropologist.\NAnthropology is the study of
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.61,0:00:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the human species through space and\Ntime. An astonishing species:
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.78,0:01:01.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she is creative to the point of arriving\Nto build universes of meaning and
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.65,0:01:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,modes of social organization all more\Ndifferent from each other.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.18,0:01:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The anthropology of health is\Nstudy of how
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.09,0:01:14.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different cultures describe what\Nis to be in good health, define
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.58,0:01:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disease and since people fall\Nsick throughout history and time
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.42,0:01:21.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what to do when someone\Nbecame ill to allow him to
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.69,0:01:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regain health. So\Ntraditionally we have traveled through
Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.17,0:01:29.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world to see how it was going\Nin distant tribes. Nowadays
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.19,0:01:35.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the anthropology of health is very much\Nmore focused on our own practices
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.07,0:01:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knowing that in our societies exist\Nof course biomedicine, which is the
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.24,0:01:44.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,main method of care to which the\Nmost people speak up when they
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.04,0:01:47.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are going badly but that there are plenty of others\Nproposals as well. Whether they are
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.55,0:01:51.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ancestral or traditional medicines\Nsuch as Chinese medicine, Ayurvedic
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.96,0:01:57.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or very recent proposals such as\Nquantum medicine or epigenetics
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.47,0:02:01.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then to observe\Nhow according to his convictions
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.71,0:02:06.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of its culture of its origin the people\Nuse a particular discipline
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.90,0:02:13.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,depending on the difficulty.\NIt's extraordinary. Anyway I will put
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.23,0:02:19.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,jean dominique michel's blog in\Nin the program description
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.32,0:02:23.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I frankly advise you to do so\Ngo and read because it is
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.49,0:02:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fascinating everything he writes.\NSo when there was this covid crisis
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.84,0:02:30.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What did you think at first?\NDid you think about anything?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.07,0:02:37.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've seen a little bit of\Nnormal way or how you lived it?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.41,0:02:42.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you want for the specialists\Nthe issue of epidemics and health
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.67,0:02:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a possible pandemic is a risk\Nrecurring
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.14,0:02:51.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if you're over fifteen years old, you'll be able to\Nall have examples in mind when it comes to the flu
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.97,0:02:56.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,avian influenza, swine flu from\Nthe flu this the flu that and to
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.26,0:03:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every time we dread the big one, you're\Nknow it's the word we use for
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.00,0:03:04.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,describe the earthquake in\NCalifornia has a very important flaw
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.33,0:03:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we know that if one day there is a very\Nlarge earthquake
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.76,0:03:09.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there could be a shift of\Nland a whole part of the
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.43,0:03:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,california in the ocean obviously we\Nhopes that this will not happen, though.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.08,0:03:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seismologists know it will happen\Nsooner or later. Is it in a
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.32,0:03:21.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,year or ten thousand years from now we don't know.\NSo we are vigilant with regard to
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.61,0:03:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seismic activity in california, and the\Npeople who work in the
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.36,0:03:29.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the health sector, especially the\Ninfectious diseases are seeing departures
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.14,0:03:33.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,epidemic regularly because the\Nvirus mutate and then each time we get a new one.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.07,0:03:37.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said is it going to be the big one or\Nnot? Then obviously that of my
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.75,0:03:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,point of view, but I don't want to have\Nlook a little cynical or
Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.54,0:03:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,indifferent is always interesting\Nand a new trick in China and to try
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.22,0:03:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quickly enough to capture the size order\Nof the epidemic and the actual risk
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.42,0:03:53.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it makes the population of\Nfind out which disease is different
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.35,0:03:58.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each time and then I feel like saying with\Nthis observation of monitoring systems that
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.75,0:04:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tend to overreact depending on the\Nprecautionary principle.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.40,0:04:07.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today we all know the predictions\NProfessor Ferguson's delirious in
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.45,0:04:10.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,England which is wrong every time\Nbut in orders of magnitude
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.06,0:04:13.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,monstrous and yet we continue to be\Nturn to him as soon as there is a new one.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.69,0:04:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fire starting by saying:\N"How bad is it, doctor? »
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.75,0:04:20.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The WHO of course, but all the\Npoliticians in general do not want to get involved in the
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.38,0:04:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be blamed for not having done enough\Nalso tends to ring the bell very quickly.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.12,0:04:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then in a process of\Nclassical scientific discovery on
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.58,0:04:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find out what's going on as you go along.\Nmeasures the passing weeks and then
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.43,0:04:35.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there we can have a more complete view of the\Nreasonable.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.51,0:04:38.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what is special but I\Nyou don't learn anything in the case that we
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.75,0:04:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,occupies is that even though the\Nfirst signals arrived very quickly
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.50,0:04:46.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which allowed to be reassured about\Nthe order of magnitude, and say:
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.07,0:04:49.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is an epidemic event like those\Nto which one is accustomed.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.55,0:04:54.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We see since the month of March a species\Nof collective delirium settling in and which
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.29,0:04:58.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,treats in a totally\Nexceptional and unreasonable some
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.25,0:05:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is of the order of usual\Nand this obviously poses
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.18,0:05:05.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of questions about what\Norganize our companies but also on
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.81,0:05:11.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the collective mentality that has as much\Nlost sight of what an epidemic is.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.81,0:05:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you thought you could have a\Nday live what we are currently experiencing
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.88,0:05:22.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with this covid crisis?\NDepends on what you're talking about.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.22,0:05:25.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if ever it is the epidemic itself\Nyes, because that's what we're going through
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.16,0:05:29.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regularly. It should be remembered that according to\Nthat we include in the name the dead in the
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.39,0:05:36.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ehpad and according to the count we are between\Nthe 9th and 14th epidemic episodes
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.35,0:05:41.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most serious since the post-war period.\NSo there have been between 8 and 13 plus
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.39,0:05:46.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,serious before. And I've had\Ne-mails from a retired doctor who has
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.46,0:05:48.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said but you don't surrender\Ncounts the famous Hong Kong flu
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.95,0:05:53.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in '68 69, the dead were laid out in the\Nhospital corridors it was absolutely
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.27,0:05:57.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"as worse" as Quebecers would say\Nthat today and therefore there is nothing
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.47,0:06:01.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exceptional in this epidemic so\NI tell them very quickly the epidemic it
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.22,0:06:05.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even is normal. On the other hand, what I\NI didn't expect to see and who continues to
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.63,0:06:10.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the time to be interested and to be afraid is\Nthis collective over-reaction but which has
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.73,0:06:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still look like they're being piloted by\Nvery special interests.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.08,0:06:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to put it another way and I go to\Nthe essential but then I'm sure we'll be able to
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.50,0:06:23.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will develop this or that element. The covid\Nit's a 100 billion dollar business
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.36,0:06:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of dollars\Nand if he had been treated like 30 years ago...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.32,0:06:33.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or 40 years old and thinking, "There's a peak.\Nepidemic has people dying
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.56,0:06:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's mostly people at the end of life\Nafter it goes down there's more death.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.32,0:06:39.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything is fine, we are starting to live again. »\Nis 100 billion
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.36,0:06:45.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dollars of failure for people and\Ncompanies an industry that only requires
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.39,0:06:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that to capture this manna but which have\Nneed to be able to capture it,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.62,0:06:53.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maintain a collective psychosis\Nunfortunately, this is what we see
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.52,0:06:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for months and months of a\Nin a way that is totally out of sync
Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.15,0:07:01.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in relation to the epidemiological reality\Nand then in a way then that is
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.29,0:07:05.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also totally damaging to the\Npopulation. We are many to have it
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.79,0:07:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,says very quickly month from the month of March\Nbut that there was a risk that the
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.60,0:07:13.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,measures included the following\Nfter none of them had any basis
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.86,0:07:17.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,serious scientists would risk\Ncause consequences
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.43,0:07:20.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much worse than what we have been doing.\Nsought to avoid
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.70,0:07:25.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is something that we can see\Ntoday and the research is coming out
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.41,0:07:29.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that allow to document this\Nintuition that many of us have had.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.69,0:07:34.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so to do this you still need to\Nthe complicity of two things
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.11,0:07:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of each country's politics and the media.\NHow is this possible?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.06,0:07:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you want me to study these\Nquestions for a long time because
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.54,0:07:47.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they are central and perhaps\Nthat one of the easiest ways to do so is to
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.61,0:07:51.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to speak is to make comparisons\Nwhy hasn't it been 40 years
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.15,0:07:55.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we've switched to energies\Nrenewable and that we have not been
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.59,0:07:59.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weaned from energy dependency\Nfossils and well because the interests
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.25,0:08:03.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at stake are such that even though\Nthis transition was possible
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.27,0:08:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it would have been beneficial\Nthere are lobbies that have locked the
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.56,0:08:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things and subsidized energies\Nfossils by refusing to subsidize
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.97,0:08:15.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,renewable energies: "when are we going to\Nnot even subsidize energy".
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.90,0:08:19.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the meantime they were subsidizing\Noil extraction and therefore there has been
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.41,0:08:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,status quo until today, when we are\Nrealizes that it's very late for
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.28,0:08:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,consider changes\Nso if you want this configuration of
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.16,0:08:33.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,supposedly democratic country but which\Nin fact do not have the freedom of the
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.54,0:08:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decisions they make and whose\Ndecision-making bodies are totally independent.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.55,0:08:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infiltrated by the industries concerned\Nit's something that is generic
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.90,0:08:47.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,today. It's about pesticides\Nit's about energy it's about
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.71,0:08:52.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,armament concerns all fields\Nof life. And in the medical field this
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.42,0:08:56.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is interesting is that the\Nspecialists have been making this diagnosis since
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.71,0:09:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about fifteen years. And the specialists\Nit's a university ethics center
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.12,0:09:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the medical journals themselves\Neditors and former editors
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.92,0:09:09.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chief editor of all major journals\Nmedical ten since years ago
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.40,0:09:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something deeply rotten\Nin the system that spoils research.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.78,0:09:17.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Research is already being tinkered with at\Ndeparture to achieve the desired results
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.26,0:09:20.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after magazines and reviews
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.71,0:09:24.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scientists are only the cases of\Nmarketing resonance that do not make
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.79,0:09:29.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their work to sort the quality of the\Nresearch. We saw it recently with
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.13,0:09:34.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Lancet and the NEJM which published,\NExcuse my French, shit!
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.47,0:09:39.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's passed through the filter,\Nwhy, because deep down they are only
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.70,0:09:43.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more scientific journals are\Nmarketing sounding boards of
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.63,0:09:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certain interests.\NAnd then there are the instances
Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.96,0:09:51.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,country by country governments that are\Ncompletely infiltrated by
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.22,0:09:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,industry representatives.\NObviously you are being sued as much as I am.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.88,0:09:59.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It sounds very conspiratorial except that\Nthis is the house of commons
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.05,0:10:03.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the British senate, which says so.\NFrench that says it, it's the university
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.79,0:10:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Oxford who says so. We have a problem\Nwhy because people who are
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.84,0:10:12.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the helm in these different circles\Nare all in serious conflict of interest with
Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.79,0:10:17.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the industry and therefore necessarily that\NIt skews everything. So the term which is
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.56,0:10:22.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,retained technically it is that of\Nsystemic corruption. So it makes you angry
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.81,0:10:25.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of people when you use it\Nbecause they feel they are being made to feel like
Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.45,0:10:30.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accuses of being corrupt, and that's not all.\Nhas done this systemic corruption.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.43,0:10:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Systematic corruption means that\Nif I hadn't paid you wouldn't have me
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.90,0:10:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,received on your antenna so I am obliged to\Nto lubricate the leg to be able to
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.23,0:10:41.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get the desired result.\NSystemic corruption
Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.14,0:10:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is when the rules of the game are\Nsufficiently distorted to a large extent
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.96,0:10:50.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by legal facts, i.e.\Nthat it is not illegal.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.34,0:10:54.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see in France we have a lot\Nnoted that the expert committees were
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.46,0:10:58.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all with a conflict of interest is\Nnot illegal.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.26,0:11:01.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They publish it on the site any citizen can\Ngo and see : Karine Lacombe touches so much,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.47,0:11:06.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing touches so much, so it's\Nnot forbidden but in the meantime we
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.21,0:11:09.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say the ethics centers of the\Nuniversities is problematic because
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.21,0:11:14.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it comes as a final result to\Nwhat the mercantile interest of
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.100,0:11:18.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,industry takes precedence over the needs of the\Npopulation in decisions that are
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.99,0:11:22.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taken. And that again\Nit's a lot of fun because today
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.89,0:11:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a scandal, but you can find\Nthe articles of Le Figaro, Le Monde, de
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.60,0:11:32.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Libération, reports from TF1,\N2 3 4 5 10 years ago where
Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.46,0:11:37.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they say so! Because it is a truth.\NAnd what strikes me a lot in
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.23,0:11:41.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the times we live in, it's that all of a sudden\Nit's as if by saying: "there are some
Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.01,0:11:45.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,narco-traffickers in Mexico "what everything\Nthe world knows, people say:
Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.45,0:11:47.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"But how can you say such a thing!
Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.01,0:11:50.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are plotting! You also believe\Nto the aliens! How is it
Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.49,0:11:53.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possible to say something as\Nscandalous" when everyone knows it!
Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.81,0:11:59.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is known, it is not hidden. And there we\Nis in an extraordinary fiction
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.72,0:12:04.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually played by the authorities, the\Nmedia that consists despite common sense
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.86,0:12:09.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what has been proven that the entire\Nworld knows, to make people believe, to create a
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.33,0:12:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fiction that is false and that would leave\Nto believe that decisions are made
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.12,0:12:20.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the good of the population then\Nthat they are not. And here we are
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.28,0:12:25.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually in a hiatus so I\Nthinks it's partly orchestrated
Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.89,0:12:30.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we're in a logic\Ncriminological. I make a little aside
Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.39,0:12:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but one of the world's leading epidemiologists\Nto the world, Professor Gøtzsche,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.68,0:12:37.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wrote in 2014\Na book called "Organized Crime,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.44,0:12:41.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pharmaceutical industry" where he shows\Nthat industry strategies are
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.73,0:12:47.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same as those of the mafia.\NThis book in 2014 receives the award of
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.61,0:12:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the British Medical Association\Ndoctors they know what they are made of
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.84,0:12:56.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,speak. And what does the professor describe\NGøtzsche ? It's that there are tricks at the
Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.22,0:13:00.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,level of drugs to impose them\Nthat industries even put
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.75,0:13:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the drug market\Nthat they know they don't have the effect of
Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.84,0:13:08.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beneficial and toxic effects.\NThere are deaths. It is discovered at a
Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.43,0:13:11.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,given time.\NThe pharmaceutical industries are
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.56,0:13:17.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,criminally convicted. But if you ever\Nmakes 15 billion in sales
Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.02,0:13:21.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a cure, that you have 500 million\N1 billion in fines and
Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.67,0:13:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interest you leave with a net profit of\N13.5 billion and therefore what the
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.44,0:13:30.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Professor Gøtzsche, it is not me who says so,\NI read what the specialists say and
Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.73,0:13:32.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I allow myself to make it known to my\Nrisks and perils
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.98,0:13:37.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what Gøtzsche says is that deep down inside\Nthe industry today has incorporated
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.15,0:13:41.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this penal dimension and the\Nsanctions as part of the
Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.32,0:13:45.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business model. Like when you pay your\Nrent to do your shows,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.64,0:13:48.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the pharmaceutical industry, it puts a\Nbillion set aside for fines
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.52,0:13:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that she's going to harvest, but that doesn't stop her\Nnot to go and Gøtzsche gives 15
Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.08,0:13:58.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different examples of this strategy it\Nthere was the Mediator in France there was the
Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.87,0:14:03.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Levothyrox, finally it is repeatedly and in the\Nflu cases we are interested in
Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.85,0:14:07.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,h1n1\Nrock has made tens of billions
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.18,0:14:10.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of benefits with a drug\Ninefficient that was useless Tamiflu
Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.87,0:14:15.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which he has managed to sell to the entire states\Nby reselling vaccines I believe that
Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.94,0:14:20.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Roselyne Bachelot had purchased 93,000 doses of vaccine at the time, which were used for the following
Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.71,0:14:25.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,useless but you see that everything is not\Nnot lost for everyone. And so it
Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.66,0:14:31.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's really a criminological dynamic.\NI know that what I'm saying is again
Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.09,0:14:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appallingly shocking but I invite\Nany person of good faith and common sense
Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.50,0:14:38.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a little bit capable of being\Ndocument by itself to go
Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.65,0:14:42.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,check the sources. There are many in the\Nblog posts I read. And from
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.61,0:14:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new it is known as the white wolf.\NSo what's amazing about the
Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.48,0:14:49.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,figure and which I am in any case astonished by.\Nit's commented is it
Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.15,0:14:52.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strings that big, how does\Nsuch enormous manipulations...
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.66,0:14:56.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've seen the fraudulent studies\Npublished in the biggest ducks
Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.59,0:15:00.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do these guys dare to do\Nthings like this and how
Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.94,0:15:05.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,explain that despite the all-too-favorable side\Nobvious fact of dirty handling
Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.23,0:15:07.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they implement\Nthey still manage to get by
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.99,0:15:13.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and impose their agenda? There are\Nquestions that are strong but also
Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.30,0:15:18.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite worrying as to what organizes\Nour company and who makes the decisions
Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.19,0:15:23.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what. So how do you\Nexplain that there are people like you
Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.23,0:15:26.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like me like all my subscribers who\Nare fully awake to it,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.89,0:15:31.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that become even you know very in\Nanger at this huge masquerade
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.93,0:15:36.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this manipulation which is there under\Ntheir eyes they see it and how you
Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.07,0:15:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,explains that such a dichotomy with\Npeople completely asleep
Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.78,0:15:44.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who see nothing.\NHow is this possible?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.89,0:15:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a lot of thinking about this.\Nin social psychology.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.60,0:15:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe that a first element of\Nanswer is to recognize that
Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.44,0:15:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in any case the evolution of our societies\Nis dictated by an agenda that has not been
Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.58,0:16:02.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,democratically chosen.\NIf you take 1980, politicians
Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.65,0:16:10.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Chirac, Mitterrand, Giscard... who would have said :\N"The world of 2022 is the one I want,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.21,0:16:16.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for my country and for my children. »\NNo one. No one would have dared.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.29,0:16:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, this is what is needed, year\Nafter year. So, here we are rather
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.88,0:16:25.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in political science\Nbut it is essential and urgent
Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.72,0:16:29.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to detect that there is a checkmate\Nof the popular will through
Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.95,0:16:36.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,representative democracy that makes \Nthat we get to the point of adopting the measures
Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.70,0:16:40.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the population does not want, does not want, does not want\Nwishes not to, see that it does not support
Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.15,0:16:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but which are imposed on him towards and\Nagainst everything. So what are
Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.08,0:16:47.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the mechanisms the processes it's a story\Ncomplex, it's not my area of expertise.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.65,0:16:52.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All I can do is\Nto note. On countless occasions,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.30,0:16:56.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we force the population that is supposed\Nhave the power and be able to decide through
Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.32,0:17:01.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her elected officials to things she doesn't want.\NSo that's the first element.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.90,0:17:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second is that the efficiency of\Nthis impregnation and this taking of
Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.74,0:17:13.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,power by the lobbies the industry is such, \Nthat no one can oppose it
Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.65,0:17:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except to get shot. I know\Nit's not quite your edge.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.73,0:17:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but Danielle Mitterrand at one point recalled\Nthat when her husband was elected, she told him:
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.99,0:17:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"So it's okay, you're going to apply the program.\Nthat you say you want to implement. »
Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.62,0:17:29.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that he replied: "No no, you're\NDon't understand, I have a government,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.54,0:17:33.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't have the power. I can't go\Nagainst the World Bank, against the IMF
Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.17,0:17:37.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against Europe, so there you go, I'm not going to do anything.\Ndo what I said I would do
Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.01,0:17:41.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't, I can't afford it. »\NSo you see anyway.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.93,0:17:45.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's one element.\NAnd then it's efficiency in fact.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.92,0:17:48.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this stranglehold \Non public decisions
Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.50,0:17:55.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then afterwards there is unfortunately\Nall in one elite conditioning
Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.22,0:18:02.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the population, not to be noticed,\Nnot to react, not to measure.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.71,0:18:07.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the elites are relatively\Neasy because in the end it's people
Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.46,0:18:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are a bit like in religion.\NYou see when you're a scientist today...
Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.12,0:18:14.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a scientific committee\Nit's a bit like being a cardinal.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.24,0:18:16.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the church\Nso all you have to do is repeat
Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.73,0:18:20.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same as the others\Nthere is an esprit de corps and we have
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.69,0:18:25.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much seen in the controversy around\Nhydroxychloroquine. You will remember
Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.10,0:18:29.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the great reproaches\Nof these scientists was to say:
Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.18,0:18:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"But Raoult who does not study\Nrandomized in double blind so that
Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.24,0:18:36.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is worth nothing. "And Raoult said it right away,\NI have been checked throughout the
Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.05,0:18:39.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scientific literature he is right:\Na randomized double-blind study
Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.83,0:18:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not better for evaluating a cure\Nin infectiology that a study
Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.64,0:18:47.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,observational like the one he did.\NBut then you had this whole chorus
Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.51,0:18:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cardinals who said: "No, it is the\Ndogma and if we don't respect the dogma,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.58,0:18:56.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we know nothing. "So there you really have an effect\Nof conformism to the extreme
Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.96,0:19:05.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,benefits, which makes the elites of the world's\Nhave become... it has become difficult for them
Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.15,0:19:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to think intelligently.\NThen afterwards at the population level
Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.84,0:19:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, it's all about the benefit of the doubt, \Non the fact that they can't imagine
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.48,0:19:18.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the dice can be piped\Nand then for some time now
Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.11,0:19:23.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years the fact that we are depriving more and more\Nthe more people that are formed
Dialogue: 0,0:19:23.42,0:19:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ways to think. When for example\NRhetoric has been removed from the school curriculum.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.08,0:19:30.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rhetoric is what makes it possible to\Nto understand how is organized
Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.17,0:19:33.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the discourse of the other who seeks to persuade us.\NAnd if you stop teaching rhetoric
Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.77,0:19:36.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you give more to people\Nthe means to identify manipulations.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.77,0:19:41.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Currently we are in the process of\Nto remove all humanities
Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.09,0:19:43.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the humanities\Nfrom everywhere: it's the only thing
Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.37,0:19:47.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that opens the mind. So what allows\Nscientist not to become a cardinal
Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.59,0:19:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to remain a scientist is to have\Nhad access to the humanities and art,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.41,0:19:58.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to sociology, to have travelled in\Nother countries to have had access
Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.43,0:20:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to other things than his field\Nand today we hyper-specialize
Dialogue: 0,0:20:02.48,0:20:07.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so many people in some kind of tunnel\Nthat they become hyper-sharp in
Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.40,0:20:10.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their small areas of knowledge\Nbut completely dumb about everything else
Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.67,0:20:15.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and therefore can no longer contrast the\Nknow that they have
Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.77,0:20:19.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a global apprehension of reality.\NAnd when you mix it all together, well, it's
Dialogue: 0,0:20:19.67,0:20:23.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ideal conditions so that in fact\Nthe population the citizens
Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.57,0:20:29.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and women citizens are deprived of all power\Nnot only to act but even to react.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.41,0:20:33.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is to say that at school they make these things.\Nfrom the school. That is to say that at school
Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.89,0:20:39.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until the baccalaureate the programs become\Nmore and more stupid. It is not enough to
Dialogue: 0,0:20:39.29,0:20:42.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take a look at the 1923 bin\Nand try to do so
Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.62,0:20:46.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will see the difference.\NAnd then we actually specialize it
Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.91,0:20:51.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a domain, and then there it remains\Na specialist in his field, he can no longer see anything
Dialogue: 0,0:20:51.08,0:20:53.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what's going on around it.\NYes and you see what I was passionate about
Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.90,0:20:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the covid is that experts in the covid\Nhave said, but the enormity
Dialogue: 0,0:20:59.30,0:21:03.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nonsense like me I wouldn't even have\NDare to think of saying such things.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:03.79,0:21:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we can see that this expertise\Nby dint of shrinkage it loses even
Dialogue: 0,0:21:10.16,0:21:14.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its validity in the field in which it operates.\NSee? That is to say that basically
Dialogue: 0,0:21:14.93,0:21:19.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what makes expertise is to have an\Nsolid knowledge and then a base that
Dialogue: 0,0:21:19.64,0:21:23.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allows to have counterpoints of\Nand guardrails and that
Dialogue: 0,0:21:23.51,0:21:27.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it allows you to think intelligently.\NBut when you isolate people in
Dialogue: 0,0:21:27.32,0:21:32.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hypers rutting and we make them do that.\Nall their life, that is to say that even
Dialogue: 0,0:21:32.12,0:21:36.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in their field of expertise\Nthey lose the skill so I had some
Dialogue: 0,0:21:36.35,0:21:39.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,17 examples. Doctors who we\Nexplained here that everyone was going to
Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.86,0:21:44.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting sick because no one had\Nnever encountered the coronavirus.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:44.84,0:21:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, but there are four others.\NToday, we realize that there are
Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.90,0:21:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a cross-immunity that half of the people\Na priori are already immune.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:50.72,0:21:55.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you see the super virologist from\Nthe unity of Geneva that the President
Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.74,0:21:58.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,macron has just hired to evaluate the\NFrench policy
Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.41,0:22:02.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he said such a stupid thing\Nin the month of March.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.07,0:22:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because he is an expert everyone\Nlistened to this as the gospel word
Dialogue: 0,0:22:07.56,0:22:10.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the aftermath we said: "yes but the\Nscience is complicated we can't
Dialogue: 0,0:22:10.47,0:22:14.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always know everything in advance".\NBut no one asks the question:
Dialogue: 0,0:22:14.82,0:22:18.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how is it that experts \Nsupposed to be experts,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.87,0:22:21.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can say such nonsense?\NAnd that for me is still the
Dialogue: 0,0:22:21.63,0:22:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question of substance. And then how\Nthe world's number one expert
Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.17,0:22:33.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in infectious diseases, Didier Raoult,\Nis not listened to at all. Is treated
Dialogue: 0,0:22:33.03,0:22:37.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a charlatan? I don't get it.\NWhat I have observed a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.59,0:22:42.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by frequenting scientists,\Nis that the best in their field
Dialogue: 0,0:22:42.27,0:22:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are extraordinary people \Nopen-minded
Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.72,0:22:51.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,humble, competent, they recognize their ignorance\Nthey are relatively free
Dialogue: 0,0:22:51.96,0:22:59.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in relation to power games, well, Raoult\Nit is solid, it is very clever, compared to power.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:59.10,0:23:02.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't do it to him. But still it is that he\Nhas preserved its integrity, in particular by
Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.85,0:23:06.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,report to the pharmaceutical industry.\NSo the "all good" in their field
Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.48,0:23:12.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are of this nature. And then after\Nyou have the cohorts of followers
Dialogue: 0,0:23:12.75,0:23:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are much less gifted who are\Nmuch less awesome that are
Dialogue: 0,0:23:15.48,0:23:19.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much less competent, but who they are at the\Ncontrary boast
Dialogue: 0,0:23:19.32,0:23:24.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of their powers, knowledge and authority\Nand that gives the fanatics.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.62,0:23:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See? So how are we going to get out of this\Nof all this? Well, listen as well as you can
Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.52,0:23:39.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or not at all. How do you see yourself\Nthe next three months?
Dialogue: 0,0:23:39.45,0:23:43.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look, I don't know.\NI used to say that I am a
Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.13,0:23:47.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,joyful pessimist. So I'm not optimistic\Nbecause I have the impression that the critical mass
Dialogue: 0,0:23:47.54,0:23:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not reached \Nthat the locking of power systems
Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.96,0:23:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is such that no counter-power \Ncannot be opposed at this time,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.10,0:23:57.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,already the media I teach you nothing\Nno longer play their role at all
Dialogue: 0,0:23:57.86,0:24:00.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of counter-power\Nand then you saw even when
Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.50,0:24:05.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guys like Raoult, like Peronne\Nor like me at my modest level
Dialogue: 0,0:24:05.87,0:24:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did everything we could\Nto alert... pure loss, you see.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:10.15,0:24:14.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At least in appearance.\NSo I have the impression that for the moment
Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.69,0:24:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's irresistible.\NThat said, I have a question that I ask myself
Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.86,0:24:23.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's deep down in themselves\Nin their inner conviction
Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.66,0:24:30.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what people really think when you know\Nthey are less than 27 or 22%.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.41,0:24:34.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to trust the French government \Non health issues today
Dialogue: 0,0:24:34.46,0:24:39.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are more than 70% of people who know \Nthat they can't be trusted.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.00,0:24:45.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So on the obligation of the mask\Nthey seem to agree more than 60%.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.02,0:24:48.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we don't really know\Nwhat it is about the conviction of each one.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:48.77,0:24:52.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Things are today divided by a\Nin such a way that there can be no
Dialogue: 0,0:24:52.01,0:24:55.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of gathering energies for\Nchallenge the policy in place
Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.85,0:24:58.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it is not excluded that at some point in time\Ngiven there are movements of revolt.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.94,0:25:02.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Either because people are tired of\NWear a mask that at first serves no purpose.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.78,0:25:06.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it is also totally\Nsuffocating and is like
Dialogue: 0,0:25:06.14,0:25:11.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a violation of bodily integrity.\NAnd then I think that in the scenarios
Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.51,0:25:16.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possible futurologics is\Nlikely the imposition of the vaccine
Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.37,0:25:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that may generate a reaction.\NThat's what they have in mind.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:20.32,0:25:23.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they will do everything they can\Nto get there. But I have the impression
Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.96,0:25:27.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as much as people can accept\Nbeing locked in their homes and wearing a mask
Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.11,0:25:33.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it comes to making\Ninject something dangerous
Dialogue: 0,0:25:33.77,0:25:36.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you don't make a vaccine in six months.\Nthat's not true, with a technology
Dialogue: 0,0:25:36.95,0:25:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we don't know and that can be\Ndangerous with consequences
Dialogue: 0,0:25:40.64,0:25:46.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from which the vaccine companies have already exempted themselves.\Nby an impunity that is assured to them
Dialogue: 0,0:25:46.55,0:25:48.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regardless of the consequences...
Dialogue: 0,0:25:48.100,0:25:52.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there we see that you still have a bomb.\NAnd then I wouldn't be
Dialogue: 0,0:25:52.84,0:25:56.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perhaps moreover that the vaccine\Nwill be completely harmless and that
Dialogue: 0,0:25:56.83,0:26:01.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that it will work just fine. We don't know. \NBut I think that people at that time
Dialogue: 0,0:26:01.33,0:26:06.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when this taxation will be advanced\Nwill have a defensive reaction.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.91,0:26:11.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Will it be enough\Nto thwart the plan? To be continued...
Dialogue: 0,0:26:11.07,0:26:16.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Often when talking about WHO\Nof GAVI's vaccines we think of Switzerland.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.60,0:26:23.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are in Switzerland, how are things at home?\NWhat is it? Where are you at?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:23.50,0:26:27.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give news from Switzerland.\NWearing masks, vaccinations, politics?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:27.73,0:26:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you want there was something\Nreally interesting to observe
Dialogue: 0,0:26:31.12,0:26:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because God knows if I have been critical\NFrench health responses
Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.24,0:26:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which in my opinion\Nso I totally agree with Peronne's analysis.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.06,0:26:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything that could be done\Nof false and bad was done
Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.44,0:26:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Switzerland has a peculiarity is that basically\Nit systematically copies France
Dialogue: 0,0:26:45.07,0:26:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not as bad\Nso we confined it to a time when it was
Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.84,0:26:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably not necessary but we have\Nsemi-confined. Here, the mask is imposed
Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.64,0:26:59.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in some cantons not in others\Nbut only in enclosed spaces
Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.14,0:27:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,outdoors not. The latest developments\Nthey talk about the objective is to achieve
Dialogue: 0,0:27:05.76,0:27:09.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,80% of volunteers in the population\Nwho agree to be vaccinated.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.40,0:27:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you see its soft measures,\Ni.e.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:13.84,0:27:17.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we are not in a logic\Nauthoritarian as in France
Dialogue: 0,0:27:17.11,0:27:21.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or pyramidal or centralized but it is \Nnot very different, but it is a little bit
Dialogue: 0,0:27:21.85,0:27:25.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,less serious. And finally already as\Nthat citizen is nice, because
Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.75,0:27:29.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I prefer this diet to the one you have\Nhave suffered. And then on the other hand it has
Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.77,0:27:34.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the dreaded side effect\Nthat it cuts the grass under the feet
Dialogue: 0,0:27:34.54,0:27:39.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of any reaction.\NSince it's not that bad.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:39.82,0:27:44.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you know it\NSwitzerland is still the plate
Dialogue: 0,0:27:44.17,0:27:48.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the turntable of all the mafias\Ninternational: sports federations,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:48.45,0:27:53.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,international organizations,\Nmoney laundering, all corruptions
Dialogue: 0,0:27:53.47,0:27:59.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finally converge here and therefore\Npeople like Bill Gates are
Dialogue: 0,0:27:59.26,0:28:03.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"ass and shirt" with the government but as in all countries
Dialogue: 0,0:28:03.37,0:28:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's the rule of the game today.\Nand me what amazes me
Dialogue: 0,0:28:06.64,0:28:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that it is not a problem.\NYeah that's what's crazy!
Dialogue: 0,0:28:11.01,0:28:15.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And wait, do you really think that Mr. Gates\Nhas bad intentions?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:15.34,0:28:17.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that's not the point.\NThe point is that a guy as rich as he is
Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.80,0:28:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does not have to dictate health policy\Nstates wherever it comes from.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.05,0:28:26.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now I think we're very entangled.\Ni.e. it is as if
Dialogue: 0,0:28:26.47,0:28:29.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were told: "But you\Nsuspect people of being dishonest? »
Dialogue: 0,0:28:29.73,0:28:34.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They may or may not be, I don't know.\NBut that's not the question.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:34.39,0:28:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The question is that of probity and of\Ntransparency of governance systems.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:38.08,0:28:45.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here we have an obviously major problem.\NBut nevertheless
Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.99,0:28:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,80% of the volunteer population\Nthat's a huge thing!
Dialogue: 0,0:28:54.10,0:28:58.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there is no vaccination obligation in Switzerland. \Nfor the moment.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.35,0:29:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then how would I say once\Nyou've scared people enough
Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.36,0:29:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you claim to have a safe vaccine\Neven if it is not, you see most of them
Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.74,0:29:12.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people are not going to ask questions\Nand we will say: "Phew, that was a close call.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.01,0:29:16.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we didn't die from that terrifying thing."\Neven if they are 40 years old and are not sick.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:16.81,0:29:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"and then I'm offered something
Dialogue: 0,0:29:19.84,0:29:22.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is guaranteed to save my life \Nor to protect me
Dialogue: 0,0:29:22.41,0:29:30.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I'm going. That's the kind of...\NYes I see. Which makes sense.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:30.79,0:29:32.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As long as they are afraid.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:32.70,0:29:38.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today Didier Raoult has switched to\Nthe French antennas on a media,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.17,0:29:42.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a long interview and he said:\N"You traditional media,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:42.25,0:29:45.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are overwhelmed by the media\Nalternatives including youtube "
Dialogue: 0,0:29:45.82,0:29:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the reporter said "yes".\NIs that a first sign?
Dialogue: 0,0:29:50.10,0:29:55.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look, it's interesting but I think\Nthat it also illustrates the reason
Dialogue: 0,0:29:55.21,0:30:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for which said alternative media\Nare being monitored
Dialogue: 0,0:30:00.22,0:30:03.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like never before and that we actually see\Nthe massive return of measures
Dialogue: 0,0:30:03.55,0:30:07.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infringements of the freedom of opinion and expression\Nyou know something about it
Dialogue: 0,0:30:07.72,0:30:12.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it's true but after\Nit's a bit like a cybernetic loop
Dialogue: 0,0:30:12.13,0:30:15.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i.e. the more the media\Nbetray their fundamental mission
Dialogue: 0,0:30:15.91,0:30:21.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and today it's just and terrible...\Nthe more they lose people's trust
Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.37,0:30:24.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the more people lose interest\Nlook elsewhere
Dialogue: 0,0:30:24.42,0:30:28.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then here it is at first\Nit came with a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:30:28.30,0:30:34.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,criticism of the fact that what\Ncirculating on the internet is not mediated
Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.33,0:30:38.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the journalists are there to do\Nthis work to discriminate to balance
Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.68,0:30:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,points of view, but they don't make the points at all.\Nin any case. So it became
Dialogue: 0,0:30:42.22,0:30:46.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only tool species\Nof propaganda that no longer respect
Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.99,0:30:53.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the values the missions and the charter\Nethics of the profession.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.05,0:30:55.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then on the internet you can find everything\Nand anything of the things well done
Dialogue: 0,0:30:55.99,0:31:01.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intelligent things of things\Nexcessive things. But finally
Dialogue: 0,0:31:01.81,0:31:05.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's obvious that it's overwhelmed.\NLook at the number of spectators you have.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:05.50,0:31:13.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My blogs have had nine million\Nreaders, you know? "Le Monde" can go get dressed.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:13.35,0:31:19.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm all the more proud of it because\Nfrom the beginning I told myself
Dialogue: 0,0:31:19.30,0:31:24.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to make papers that are complex\Nthat addresses difficult aspects
Dialogue: 0,0:31:24.82,0:31:30.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are extremely well documented I have given up\Nsimplify anything
Dialogue: 0,0:31:30.49,0:31:35.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by taking the bet people are smart.\NThen there are people who may disagree.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:35.14,0:31:38.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with my analyses or not appreciate \Nmy way of writing but you
Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.98,0:31:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see what I mean,\Nprovide quality content and in fact
Dialogue: 0,0:31:42.64,0:31:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what made it big and I think that\Nit's really... it reflects the fact that people
Dialogue: 0,0:31:46.12,0:31:51.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a need a thirst a thirst to have\Ninformation that is solid and reliable
Dialogue: 0,0:31:51.07,0:31:55.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is supported and then not supported. \Nin those silly journalistic shortcuts
Dialogue: 0,0:31:55.30,0:31:58.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we see all the time.\NIf you have any doubts
Dialogue: 0,0:31:58.45,0:32:03.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on wearing the mask outdoors you are an "anti-mask".\NThis is absolute nonsense,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:03.19,0:32:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the zero degree of reflection.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:05.62,0:32:09.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes that's right. And the media are there\Nin it unfortunately. They are in
Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.55,0:32:12.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this extreme caricature and I find\Nthat people are turning away from it.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.97,0:32:18.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I even heard a great\Nprofessor say that the one who is
Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.21,0:32:20.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against the fact that there will be\Na second wave
Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.93,0:32:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that one who is against the fact that\Nthe mask protects are negationists.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:24.53,0:32:28.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can we explain, how can we get there?\NYou did a great show
Dialogue: 0,0:32:28.61,0:32:31.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what to say to someone\Nwho calls you a schemer, but me...
Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.91,0:32:35.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's always a question\Nthat I didn't understand: what does it mean to be a conspirator?
Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.06,0:32:43.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If they call you a schemer,\NWhat are you plotting?
Dialogue: 0,0:32:43.22,0:32:46.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me there is a little\Ntwo levels to your answer.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:46.22,0:32:53.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First of all, there are conspiracies.\NThere are plots all the time.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:53.12,0:32:57.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know the adage: there are two positions to avoid: believing that everything is a conspiracy.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:57.59,0:33:00.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to believe that nothing is conspiracy. So there are always plots.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:00.89,0:33:05.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are bribes for the attribution\Nfrom the olympic games there are wars
Dialogue: 0,0:33:05.39,0:33:08.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are triggered on bases\Nfalse only to be able to
Dialogue: 0,0:33:08.90,0:33:14.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go and steal the oil at last there is\Nshenanigans in a lot of places and therefore
Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.36,0:33:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, the first answer is to be "aware".\Nof this reality and then it does not hide it.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.44,0:33:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and therefore ask questions.\NAnd then there's another conspiracy
Dialogue: 0,0:33:26.86,0:33:30.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so always be careful\Nnot to over-psychologize or psychiatrize
Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.95,0:33:36.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the fact remains that\Nthe human mind is inhabited by
Dialogue: 0,0:33:36.26,0:33:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a natural curiosity and that\Nthe most difficult thing for him is to be
Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.64,0:33:43.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in inconsistencies that are not\Nunderstandable on the basis of what we are told.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.67,0:33:48.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the ways to be comforted\Nor to find comfort is
Dialogue: 0,0:33:48.65,0:33:53.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to imagine things that do not exist\Nbut which allow to give meaning
Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.90,0:33:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to these elements of reality. And this is\Nthe real conspiracy drift. You see what
Dialogue: 0,0:33:58.46,0:34:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean? It's a way to\Nto put back consistency is wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:02.18,0:34:06.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because coherence is a\Nbasic neurological needs.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:06.89,0:34:11.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, of course, we get into things\Nwho become delusional at some point.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:11.69,0:34:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what is complicated in this case\Nis that in fact negationism
Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.04,0:34:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he is on the side of those who\Ndeny the possibility of any problems
Dialogue: 0,0:34:20.96,0:34:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of any scheming or any\Nintentionality. Because it is not true
Dialogue: 0,0:34:24.38,0:34:28.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like that nowhere in life.\NSo they turn the thing around
Dialogue: 0,0:34:28.61,0:34:30.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but these reversals\Nit is at the same time very Orwelian
Dialogue: 0,0:34:30.85,0:34:35.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's very perverse. See? When\Nthe government explains to you that we lock up
Dialogue: 0,0:34:35.20,0:34:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the elderly and in the EHPAD\Nto protect them and then in fact
Dialogue: 0,0:34:38.56,0:34:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a hecatomb, it's perverse.\NIf you want to protect
Dialogue: 0,0:34:41.50,0:34:44.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,old people, you don't do that.\NYou do otherwise.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:44.22,0:34:48.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we are permanently in these\Nreversals and then after "conspiracy"...
Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.67,0:34:51.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, it's just like any other\Nlabel if I call you a "leftist".
Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.40,0:34:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or "Trumpeter", all this means that\Nby the label that I stick on you
Dialogue: 0,0:34:58.08,0:35:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I no longer need to be interested in this\Nyou say, I disqualified you right away.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.84,0:35:06.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's where, you know, I did\Na small "tag" on social networks
Dialogue: 0,0:35:06.37,0:35:12.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"neither sheep nor schemers,\Nyes to debate, no to insult".
Dialogue: 0,0:35:12.58,0:35:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone who is convinced that the port\Nof the outdoor mask can be useful,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:15.37,0:35:18.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am open to discuss with her.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:18.46,0:35:21.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't share this conviction\Nbut maybe she knows things
Dialogue: 0,0:35:21.43,0:35:24.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I don't know and that with his contact I will\Nbe able to think things differently
Dialogue: 0,0:35:24.63,0:35:28.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe the other way around I'll be able to say:\N"But listen, look at Holland
Dialogue: 0,0:35:28.54,0:35:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in Scandinavia do not do it, they do not have\Nno more problems than us so
Dialogue: 0,0:35:32.11,0:35:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for me it is rather the proof that \Nit is a measure that is not necessary
Dialogue: 0,0:35:35.56,0:35:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but at least there is a dialogue that is possible\Nand the real dialogue is when
Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.46,0:35:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you listen to what the other has to say.\NProcesses like what you describe
Dialogue: 0,0:35:44.08,0:35:47.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that we see systematized today \Nin the media and politics
Dialogue: 0,0:35:47.35,0:35:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's really a way to\Nclose the debate before it is even open
Dialogue: 0,0:35:52.48,0:35:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it scares me because\Nhistorically it is on this basis
Dialogue: 0,0:35:58.00,0:36:02.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that all the worst excesses have\Nalways been built. Absolutely.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:02.50,0:36:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is the first step towards\Ndictatorships this. Yes, that's the fact
Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.76,0:36:11.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not to be able to stand the difference\Nnot to tolerate divergent points of view
Dialogue: 0,0:36:11.35,0:36:16.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to immediately dirty the person you have in your home.\Nin front of you. And I think you've been there.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:16.87,0:36:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I too have 55 brooms, not born of the last rain,\NI've never had such violent attacks.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:26.62,0:36:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as malevolent and as twisted\Nthat this time. And we felt that there was
Dialogue: 0,0:36:31.30,0:36:35.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a kind of rage, it was necessary at all costs\Ndemolish the man because
Dialogue: 0,0:36:35.35,0:36:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his message was unbearable.\NAnd now we are no longer in civility.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:41.83,0:36:45.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are no longer in respect\Nwe are no longer in humanity.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:45.34,0:36:50.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, and many people tell me that\Nthat is to say that many doctors
Dialogue: 0,0:36:50.26,0:36:52.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many lawyers\Nhave not been used to
Dialogue: 0,0:36:52.93,0:36:56.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to this violence.\NAnd this violence they have been
Dialogue: 0,0:36:56.38,0:37:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all very shocked.\NPersonally I am used to it because
Dialogue: 0,0:37:00.64,0:37:04.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the de-bunkers I have on my back\Nfor years and the funny thing is
Dialogue: 0,0:37:04.75,0:37:09.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that when they called me they started\Nalways with this sentence: "I am not a
Dialogue: 0,0:37:09.46,0:37:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conspirator" to apologize you already see\Nwhat they were going to tell me
Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.28,0:37:18.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they found that things\Ndid not go into all this management
Dialogue: 0,0:37:18.19,0:37:24.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the crisis and the epidemic.\NBut some have let go because
Dialogue: 0,0:37:24.07,0:37:28.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precisely it is of an unheard-of violence.\NBut really as you say it is
Dialogue: 0,0:37:28.15,0:37:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something the people who listen to us\Ncan't understand because they
Dialogue: 0,0:37:31.36,0:37:35.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have never experienced this.\NYes, it's a first alarm.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:35.65,0:37:38.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had already met some perverts\Nnarcissistic on my personal journey
Dialogue: 0,0:37:38.47,0:37:43.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I knew from experience
Dialogue: 0,0:37:43.03,0:37:47.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this extreme malevolence from someone\Nwho seeks to destroy you at all costs
Dialogue: 0,0:37:47.35,0:37:50.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without any consideration for his humanity.\NSo I had some personal landmarks
Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.86,0:37:55.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you want. But what I found most\Nalready struck then already some of these
Dialogue: 0,0:37:55.30,0:37:59.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attacks as far as I'm concerned\NI'm sure they come from the industry.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:59.05,0:38:03.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have been sponsored we know\Nthat there are boxes that do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:03.07,0:38:06.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who will search your past on the internet\Nand then inquire
Dialogue: 0,0:38:06.55,0:38:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be able to get dirty so\NI've had things done very well
Dialogue: 0,0:38:10.24,0:38:16.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was very well documented but\Nalways turned in the direction
Dialogue: 0,0:38:16.75,0:38:19.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to prove what a bad guy I am\Nand someone who doesn't know his field.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:19.27,0:38:21.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while I am a very good expert,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:21.49,0:38:26.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sorry to have to call him back,\Nbut really with this intention. That being said
Dialogue: 0,0:38:26.47,0:38:30.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that struck me the most in the experience,\Nis the number of relays of this malevolence
Dialogue: 0,0:38:30.43,0:38:34.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know people who have told me...\Nbut I stopped reading
Dialogue: 0,0:38:34.78,0:38:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the end of two paragraphs, it's\Nwas nauseated. It was so mean.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:39.46,0:38:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See?\NAnd then after me I saw a lot of people.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:42.74,0:38:46.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including people I know in\Nthe health systems of people who have
Dialogue: 0,0:38:46.49,0:38:50.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,positions of power, people with\Nwho I thought was in a good relationship
Dialogue: 0,0:38:50.09,0:38:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mutual esteem, people with whom\NI worked on projects and suddenly, all of a sudden
Dialogue: 0,0:38:56.00,0:39:00.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relayed "posts" but from a\Nextreme malevolence, saying that I was
Dialogue: 0,0:39:00.05,0:39:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an impostor, a crook, but you see some\Nhyper serious stuff. And all of a sudden
Dialogue: 0,0:39:05.00,0:39:11.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have a small notable of institutions "hop"\Nwhich sends it to its network. And then
Dialogue: 0,0:39:11.27,0:39:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know enough about human psychology\Nto think
Dialogue: 0,0:39:16.04,0:39:20.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they must be convinced of the usefulness\Nto do it you see. They didn't say:
Dialogue: 0,0:39:20.63,0:39:27.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're going to hurt Jean-Dominique, we'll be happy.\NThere is something in them
Dialogue: 0,0:39:27.35,0:39:31.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who must have adhered to this manipulation.\NBut afterwards I find it breathtaking
Dialogue: 0,0:39:31.46,0:39:35.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the editor of a medical journal\Na former hospital director
Dialogue: 0,0:39:35.36,0:39:41.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a person in charge of a health system \Nmonstrosities post about me
Dialogue: 0,0:39:41.51,0:39:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they know me and they know who I am\NAnd there, the collective process
Dialogue: 0,0:39:47.42,0:39:52.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of stoning where finally everyone throws\Nhis stone. It's like mobbing
Dialogue: 0,0:39:52.91,0:39:57.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in schoolyards :\Nyou get the creep who spots a guy
Dialogue: 0,0:39:57.14,0:40:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that does not belong to him it goes against, then afterwards\Nhe's rounding everybody up so that everyone's gonna fuck up
Dialogue: 0,0:40:01.58,0:40:05.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his punch. And that's what\Nworries me a little bit, so fine,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:05.15,0:40:08.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,again I am happily\Nquite philosophical at this stage of my life
Dialogue: 0,0:40:08.68,0:40:12.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sufficiently aware when to\Nwhat motivates the values that are mine
Dialogue: 0,0:40:12.71,0:40:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I find that there is something\Nthis is what happens to young people who
Dialogue: 0,0:40:16.88,0:40:20.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,commit suicide in order to be taken to task\Non social networks, you know?
Dialogue: 0,0:40:20.15,0:40:23.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is this kind of mechanism. And what strikes me\Nis that there is still no
Dialogue: 0,0:40:23.99,0:40:27.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seems to be an immunity in the collective\Ncompared to that. That is to say
Dialogue: 0,0:40:27.59,0:40:30.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the responsibility of each\Na human being worthy of the name
Dialogue: 0,0:40:30.41,0:40:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the face of attacks of this nature\Nis to say stop, I'm not participating in this.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:34.64,0:40:37.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can agree or disagree with Mr. Trotta.\Nwe can agree or disagree
Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.91,0:40:42.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Mr. Michel, but I don't participate\Nto something of this nature. And what I saw
Dialogue: 0,0:40:42.47,0:40:46.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the contrary, it's a bit as if\Na lot of Mr. and Mrs. everyone
Dialogue: 0,0:40:46.40,0:40:50.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were completely embarking on\Nthis proposal for a mimetic revival.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:50.03,0:40:54.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then we know\Nwhen there are times of great
Dialogue: 0,0:40:54.38,0:40:58.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collective tension of great stress\Nthere are often outlets for violence
Dialogue: 0,0:40:58.85,0:41:02.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we take a poor guy who's passing by for a ride.\Nor who had the misfortune to dare to open his mouth
Dialogue: 0,0:41:02.72,0:41:05.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then all the others keep quiet\Nand that there is a rampage
Dialogue: 0,0:41:05.75,0:41:10.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's lynching, you know. Here I am\Noften read about it on social networks.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:10.67,0:41:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the first time I've seen it live. \NIt feels funny. And at the same time...
Dialogue: 0,0:41:15.55,0:41:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many doctors have told me:\N"I thought I had friends
Dialogue: 0,0:41:20.00,0:41:22.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thought they had even\Nvery close friends
Dialogue: 0,0:41:22.10,0:41:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought I was working with confidence\Nand because I had a different attitude
Dialogue: 0,0:41:26.57,0:41:30.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a different reasoning from them\Nthey lynched me. Overnight.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:30.41,0:41:34.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was so violent\Nthat I had been shocked. Psychologically shocked. »
Dialogue: 0,0:41:34.70,0:41:39.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I call it a little bit the virus of truth.\NIt's where you discover your real friends.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:39.59,0:41:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is incredible.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:46.88,0:41:51.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have you been able to see in foreign countries,\Nand you've been around the world a little bit.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:51.77,0:41:59.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,models that still have you\Na little bit given back a little hope?
Dialogue: 0,0:41:59.21,0:42:02.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Already here it gave me hope, I don't know. \Nwhat it is for you, but me
Dialogue: 0,0:42:02.57,0:42:05.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I received, but literally,\Nthousands of messages of support
Dialogue: 0,0:42:05.72,0:42:12.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but of a generosity! People but\Nwho write 4, 5, 6, 7 paragraphs where they talk about themselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:12.83,0:42:18.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which are painted in such goodness\Nto say, "Thank you so much for doing what you do! »
Dialogue: 0,0:42:18.23,0:42:21.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know me at the beginning my intention
Dialogue: 0,0:42:21.41,0:42:24.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was very sanito-genetic.\NI said to myself: but it's so anxiety-provoking,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:24.50,0:42:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's so traumatic,\Nthat it is absolutely necessary to give
Dialogue: 0,0:42:29.12,0:42:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,response elements\Nreassuring to people for
Dialogue: 0,0:42:31.58,0:42:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they can say, "Yes, I have to be careful,\Nbut no reason to panic. »
Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.76,0:42:38.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've had, but literally, thousands\Nof messages from people who said to me:
Dialogue: 0,0:42:38.39,0:42:41.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"But when I read you,\NIt was a breath of fresh air,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:41.48,0:42:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it has been a lifeline in the\Nambient delirium. How good it made me feel! »
Dialogue: 0,0:42:45.80,0:42:50.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And many of them said to me:\N"You put words to what I knew to be right
Dialogue: 0,0:42:50.54,0:42:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I didn't have\Nof vocabulary to say. »
Dialogue: 0,0:42:55.76,0:42:58.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is perversity.\NIt's when you make an entire population believe
Dialogue: 0,0:42:58.52,0:43:02.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that she is wrong.\NSo what a great sense of what's going on.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:02.13,0:43:05.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this intention, me it is also \Nwhat did I agree to?
Dialogue: 0,0:43:05.61,0:43:09.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take hits and put me\Nforward and suffer consequences.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:09.48,0:43:13.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the generosity of the people,\NYou see, she's so touching,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:13.73,0:43:20.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she is so beautiful.\NAnd then afterwards, the...
Dialogue: 0,0:43:20.55,0:43:24.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It also means that if you hadn't been there\Nif I hadn't been there so full
Dialogue: 0,0:43:24.87,0:43:28.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thousands of others like us,\Nhad not been there, these people would be today
Dialogue: 0,0:43:28.65,0:43:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a rather strong psychological distress.\NYes. And you probably know
Dialogue: 0,0:43:35.16,0:43:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the outlook is very bleak in this area.\NThat is to say that there is already a wave
Dialogue: 0,0:43:39.96,0:43:42.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in psychiatry, which in fact,\Nis the real second wave.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:42.42,0:43:47.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then of people who do not suffer\Nof classic psychiatric illnesses.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:47.34,0:43:51.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not bipolar people\Nor psychotics who all of a sudden
Dialogue: 0,0:43:51.03,0:43:54.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have an outbreak because of the epidemic.\NThese are people who were not suffering from anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:54.15,0:43:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beforehand and which are going into a spin,\Nso much the treatment, especially media treatment,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:58.56,0:44:04.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was violent. And you see a friend\Nprofessor of neuromarketing
Dialogue: 0,0:44:04.47,0:44:08.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which studies the effects on the brain of\Nadvertising messages, was telling me
Dialogue: 0,0:44:08.28,0:44:13.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they could not believe they were imagining\Nthe effect on who this part is
Dialogue: 0,0:44:13.86,0:44:18.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the brain which is in permanent vigilance\Nto see if there is any danger or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.63,0:44:22.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have you ever been at home, has there been a presence\Neven from a relative, but you didn't know
Dialogue: 0,0:44:22.26,0:44:24.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he was there. Then all of a sudden\Nyou make a monster jump.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:24.45,0:44:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You scared me! " It's the amygdala.\NAnd this amygdala is bludgeoned.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.66,0:44:35.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for months and months and months,\Nand in a way but totally delirious!
Dialogue: 0,0:44:35.91,0:44:40.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said very early on, if we were doing\Nthe same hype, with for example
Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.98,0:44:45.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heart attacks :\N"Today, 220 heart attacks in France!
Dialogue: 0,0:44:45.11,0:44:50.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today 10% more heart attacks! »\NAfter three weeks everyone
Dialogue: 0,0:44:50.01,0:44:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is afraid of having a heart attack and then everything\Nthe world becomes hypochondriac.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:52.92,0:44:57.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything knows what I mean. You've really got a bludgeon\Npanic. Again a second time
Dialogue: 0,0:44:57.09,0:44:59.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tried to oppose it,\Nobviously in pure loss...
Dialogue: 0,0:44:59.43,0:45:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that of course it's going to have\Nsustainable impacts. We can see that suicide rates
Dialogue: 0,0:45:03.36,0:45:07.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,explode, the precariousness, because there again, the precariousness\Nthe effect on the economy will be devastating.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:07.29,0:45:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we are in the process of\Nto create a disaster.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:12.66,0:45:15.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I used as a metaphor at the very beginning:\Nit's like bombing the cities
Dialogue: 0,0:45:15.96,0:45:21.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to fight against malaria.\NNow we go on except that there is
Dialogue: 0,0:45:21.09,0:45:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even more mosquitoes.\NWe continue to bomb! And I say to myself:
Dialogue: 0,0:45:26.70,0:45:31.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what conscience do the rulers have\Nto make decisions that are
Dialogue: 0,0:45:31.49,0:45:36.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so traumatic without even asking the question?!\NWhen you see kids wearing masks
Dialogue: 0,0:45:36.21,0:45:40.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at school what's it going to do\Non their psyche, on their security needs,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:40.62,0:45:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of trust?\NWe are creating monstrous damage
Dialogue: 0,0:45:44.54,0:45:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for something that's between the 9th\Nand the 14th most serious epidemic
Dialogue: 0,0:45:50.16,0:45:57.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and which has been extinct since May.\NThere is no more epidemic. Yes, there is. It is terrible.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:57.51,0:46:05.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Switzerland kids will have to carry the mask back?\NYes, above 12 years old.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:06.02,0:46:13.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is so absurd.\NYou know, I've published a text by a psychiatrist who specializes
Dialogue: 0,0:46:13.46,0:46:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the delirious puffs.\NThere are examples in the story
Dialogue: 0,0:46:17.22,0:46:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,notably in Orleans in 1968. And tells him we are\Nin a collective delirium.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:24.48,0:46:29.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is to say that school principals\Nare so panicked at the thought
Dialogue: 0,0:46:29.13,0:46:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that a child can get sick and infect\Nan elderly person and then dies
Dialogue: 0,0:46:32.76,0:46:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then let it be his fault as a school principal\Nwe block, everything is locked,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:37.50,0:46:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we secure everything, but in a deadly way \Nreally in a collective delirium,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:43.32,0:46:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'm really thinking about the meaning\Npsychiatric term. It is in any case
Dialogue: 0,0:46:46.80,0:46:53.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what this psychiatrist says.\NIn addition, we in France, we had for two months,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:53.01,0:46:57.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost three months, one non-access \Nto the hospital for everything that is
Dialogue: 0,0:46:57.99,0:47:00.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heart attack, stroke,\Ntreatment of cancers...
Dialogue: 0,0:47:00.33,0:47:03.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here again it is a second wave quite\Nimportant.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:03.69,0:47:08.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In addition to psychiatry.\NI wondered about containment,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:08.70,0:47:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because when you watch\Nepidemiology "textbooks",
Dialogue: 0,0:47:13.14,0:47:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,None of them recommend containment.\Nlike what we've been through. None.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:16.98,0:47:20.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not in the recommendations.\NThey say that it may be useful
Dialogue: 0,0:47:20.07,0:47:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the very beginning of the epidemic for\Nnip the epidemic in the bud,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:25.36,0:47:28.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but once the virus has spread a little bit,\Nit's worse than anything
Dialogue: 0,0:47:28.78,0:47:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it brings together contagious people\Nwith not contagious people etc...
Dialogue: 0,0:47:32.68,0:47:38.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I really tried to see what\Nresearch said and the latest studies
Dialogue: 0,0:47:38.05,0:47:42.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that went out in England show that\Ntwo thirds of the deaths during
Dialogue: 0,0:47:42.73,0:47:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,containment did not die from the covid.\NThey died from the causes you say.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:49.12,0:47:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that the consequences will be long\Nterm.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:50.98,0:47:55.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's absolutely true and here it is\Nit's this drama we've fallen into.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:55.33,0:47:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To take precautions\Nwe caused the damage is infinitely worse.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:59.64,0:48:03.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And with governors\Nthat have so much toppled over
Dialogue: 0,0:48:03.88,0:48:06.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in denial and their belief systems, \Nthat even today they are
Dialogue: 0,0:48:06.88,0:48:14.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,totally incapable of questioning themselves,\Nto consider that maybe it was
Dialogue: 0,0:48:14.11,0:48:18.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not the right thing to do and therefore against all odds,\Ncontinue to assert the things we know
Dialogue: 0,0:48:18.37,0:48:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,today that they are false.\NYou think they're so dumb that they're not
Dialogue: 0,0:48:22.69,0:48:27.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being aware of it, that they were wrong?\NThen no,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:27.61,0:48:33.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that... already there was a headline in the newspaper,\Nat a given time :
Dialogue: 0,0:48:33.21,0:48:37.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Those who don't want to wear\Nmasks are often
Dialogue: 0,0:48:37.54,0:48:42.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,narcissistic or psychopathic". You remember the trick.\NI replied on social networks:
Dialogue: 0,0:48:42.25,0:48:45.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Wait, guys, wait, narcissists...\Nand psychopaths,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:45.19,0:48:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in general they are found in\Npositions of power, to frighten others
Dialogue: 0,0:48:49.09,0:48:53.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to enjoy the power they have.\Ntaken to terrorize the population. »
Dialogue: 0,0:48:53.65,0:48:57.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not to be confused. So I think a part\Npeople in power who are sociopaths.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:57.10,0:49:02.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that unfortunately we have\Nchannels of accession to power
Dialogue: 0,0:49:02.35,0:49:05.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that favour problematic profiles.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:05.74,0:49:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a pretty clear statement.\NThen the other thing, I see it here because
Dialogue: 0,0:49:11.86,0:49:16.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our politicians in Geneva\Nthey're not bad guys.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:16.84,0:49:22.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are people of good will, but what I observe is,\Nit's when you made a mistake
Dialogue: 0,0:49:22.78,0:49:28.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a long time, the psychological cost\Nto realize that you made a mistake
Dialogue: 0,0:49:28.24,0:49:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is such, that there is this process of denial which\Nis well known to psychologists,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:33.28,0:49:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is being put in place and that make\Nagainst all odds, they continue to assert
Dialogue: 0,0:49:37.18,0:49:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this is the way it is, but almost in good faith.\NThey convinced themselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:41.86,0:49:46.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's crazy.\NThe Minister of Health in Geneva,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:46.81,0:49:51.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he held an extraordinary reasoning\Non social networks by saying :
Dialogue: 0,0:49:51.85,0:49:54.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You don't realize, it's because we have\Ntaken the steps we have taken
Dialogue: 0,0:49:54.79,0:50:02.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in March/April that today there are no more\Nof sick people. And those who criticized us
Dialogue: 0,0:50:02.41,0:50:06.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,already in March/April to take\Nmeasures taken continue to us
Dialogue: 0,0:50:06.04,0:50:12.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,criticize to maintain the measures then\Nthat if we got them up, it'd be like, you know, it'd be like...
Dialogue: 0,0:50:12.10,0:50:17.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as in March and April.\NYou see, this is completely wrong as a result.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:17.40,0:50:21.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Sweden they have not confined the epidemic.\Nis extinguished.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:21.25,0:50:27.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So nowhere does it go back to the\Nconviction in which is this type:
Dialogue: 0,0:50:27.19,0:50:30.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"if we have arrived at the result in which we have\Nis today it's because of what we've done "
Dialogue: 0,0:50:30.37,0:50:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's totally fallacious. It is not true.\NThat's not the reason. But he is
Dialogue: 0,0:50:36.04,0:50:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so convinced and I think that\Nwould be so costly on a personal level
Dialogue: 0,0:50:39.04,0:50:43.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to open our eyes to the fact that\Nno, everything he imposed from a to z
Dialogue: 0,0:50:43.41,0:50:48.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was essentially unnecessary,\Nthat there really is a process
Dialogue: 0,0:50:48.18,0:50:54.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basic psychological issues that concern us\Nall, which is denial.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:54.13,0:50:59.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, that's right, they are in denial. \NAnd how do you see it,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:59.59,0:51:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you wanted to talk about international politics,\Nhow you see a little bit,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:02.14,0:51:06.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,international politics by\Nto this covid. Do you see
Dialogue: 0,0:51:06.79,0:51:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,countries that you feel have done well\Nchoices and others that are really
Dialogue: 0,0:51:11.86,0:51:18.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vectors of corruption\NListen to the corruption it is everywhere and then
Dialogue: 0,0:51:18.16,0:51:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,systemic corruption in particular.\NIt is the former Minister of Health of Ecuador
Dialogue: 0,0:51:21.22,0:51:24.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who did a paper in the\NLancet to talk about corruption
Dialogue: 0,0:51:24.01,0:51:30.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is who intrinsically.\NThe abuse of language that we all commit
Dialogue: 0,0:51:30.37,0:51:34.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to talk about health policy.\NWe don't have a health policy.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:34.51,0:51:39.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a disease industry. It's not at all the same.\NIn the West today 80% of diseases
Dialogue: 0,0:51:39.88,0:51:44.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are chronic. They are diseases of \Ncivilization that would be avoidable.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:44.26,0:51:48.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is the product of our food,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:48.10,0:51:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pollution, stress, lack\Nof movement, lack of sleep.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:52.56,0:51:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we could reduce by 80% the\Ndiseases from which the population suffers
Dialogue: 0,0:51:58.81,0:52:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it was protected against the factors\Nof risk and in fact we do nothing,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:02.26,0:52:08.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or next to nothing. It causes this damage\Nand then we have a medicine
Dialogue: 0,0:52:08.05,0:52:13.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very specialized, very expensive that comes\Nrepair people who are damaged but for whom
Dialogue: 0,0:52:13.09,0:52:15.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing was done at the collective level\Nto avoid damage.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:15.73,0:52:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's not a health policy.\Nit is an economy of disease.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:21.28,0:52:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From this point of view, the logic is the same,\Nworldwide, because they have the same interests
Dialogue: 0,0:52:25.24,0:52:30.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that configures it. After what has been observed\Nfun and interesting in this epidemic.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:30.13,0:52:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that poor countries have\Nmuch better, because they reacted much better, because they have
Dialogue: 0,0:52:34.00,0:52:38.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the habit of dealing with not much,\Nbecause in many countries
Dialogue: 0,0:52:38.38,0:52:41.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine\Nthey know it very well,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:41.08,0:52:45.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they eat it like smarties, in any case.\Nin some regions they know
Dialogue: 0,0:52:45.34,0:52:47.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it is not dangerous,\Nand above all, they are not interesting markets.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:47.98,0:52:52.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for pharmas. So to panic\Nthe United States France and
Dialogue: 0,0:52:52.21,0:53:00.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Switzerland is a guaranteed jackpot.\NPanic in Senegal, or... you know...
Dialogue: 0,0:53:00.13,0:53:03.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There, there was this reversal and Raoult\Nsaid it early on. But I find
Dialogue: 0,0:53:03.79,0:53:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they gave us lessons\Npragmatism and intelligence
Dialogue: 0,0:53:08.08,0:53:13.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but with a slightly disturbing perspective,\Nwhich is the decay of the West.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:13.24,0:53:18.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If today we are so incapacitated\Nto evaluate the seriousness of a phenomenon
Dialogue: 0,0:53:18.85,0:53:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take answers\Npragmatic and efficient
Dialogue: 0,0:53:22.90,0:53:26.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to recognize when, along the way\Nwe made some bad decisions.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:26.11,0:53:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just that we're ripe for the EHPAD.\NPublic policies
Dialogue: 0,0:53:33.28,0:53:36.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the West are just\Nbut completely senile.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:36.54,0:53:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is clear. And you as a scientist\Nstill recognized,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:41.50,0:53:44.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were you still invited\Non TV sets
Dialogue: 0,0:53:44.83,0:53:51.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on mainstream radio stations in Switzerland? \NIn France a lot. The French have been very nice.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:51.89,0:53:56.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just one or two who have been around me\Nwho are science journalists
Dialogue: 0,0:53:56.75,0:54:01.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so very close to the... \Nbut the French was very nice
Dialogue: 0,0:54:01.25,0:54:08.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,notably André Bercoff, but in Switzerland\Neven though I had to be invited
Dialogue: 0,0:54:08.69,0:54:15.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about 50 times on national television\Nbetween 2000 and 2017,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:15.11,0:54:18.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to talk about anything and everything\Nbut that's what an anthropologist does:
Dialogue: 0,0:54:18.89,0:54:22.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was not made to talk about the death of the pope.\NJohn Paul II, and of the staging
Dialogue: 0,0:54:22.07,0:54:26.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Catholic Church...\Nit's great... Sancto subito,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:26.09,0:54:31.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sancto subito... fuck, guys, they're\Nhad been paid, prepared signs...
Dialogue: 0,0:54:31.70,0:54:35.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An anthropologist, he decodes that.\NOn the other hand, when it's my field of expertise,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:35.99,0:54:40.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have been, but boycotted, not according to the\Nboycotting but radio and television
Dialogue: 0,0:54:40.22,0:54:45.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,began to say: "Yeah, we don't know\Nwhere this Mr. Michel comes from,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:45.59,0:54:50.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is dubious,\Nwe're going to check his CV, we feel like
Dialogue: 0,0:54:50.03,0:54:53.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he doesn't know what he's talking about,\Nfinally you see a demolition company...
Dialogue: 0,0:54:53.45,0:54:59.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But who was up to the fact\Nto tell lies about me
Dialogue: 0,0:54:59.69,0:55:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at prime time.\NIn this case in my exchanges
Dialogue: 0,0:55:03.92,0:55:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with an editor in chief I had done\Nscreenshots of the mails we got
Dialogue: 0,0:55:06.80,0:55:11.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which allowed me on my blog to say\Nbut here's what the guy said
Dialogue: 0,0:55:11.39,0:55:14.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on air\Nand this is the reality of our exchange.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:14.09,0:55:18.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't shock you that the editor-in-chief\Nof a so-called prestigious daily newspaper
Dialogue: 0,0:55:18.35,0:55:21.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allows himself to lie only\Nto smear someone's reputation?
Dialogue: 0,0:55:21.97,0:55:27.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So no, I was confronted with something\Nvery particular and which has been systematic.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:27.41,0:55:35.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ah, it's incredible!\NHas he made a reaction to your blog?
Dialogue: 0,0:55:35.03,0:55:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, but I filed a complaint with the\NSwiss press council so in my opinion
Dialogue: 0,0:55:40.64,0:55:43.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is badly crossed out. I really could\Ndocument the fact that he said
Dialogue: 0,0:55:43.88,0:55:48.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the air something wrong\Nwith the obvious intention of harming me
Dialogue: 0,0:55:48.59,0:55:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to make listeners believe\Nthat I was someone who needed above all
Dialogue: 0,0:55:51.95,0:55:55.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not listen. But that's crazy. It's just\Nunbelievable. It's really unbelievable.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:55.94,0:55:59.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, but that's the world today you're in.\Nsee. Me, that's where I hallucinate.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:59.45,0:56:02.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I was 18 years old\NI've been to the United States,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:02.03,0:56:05.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw a lot of stuff I didn't know about\Nfilms that were
Dialogue: 0,0:56:05.09,0:56:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cut four times for advertising, or the\Nsame pub that was hammered all along.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:09.44,0:56:13.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a sporting event or program.\NI was thinking, thank God that's never going to happen.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:13.49,0:56:18.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at home, you see. And then\NTwenty-five years later, we were there.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:18.34,0:56:22.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So unfortunately this is today's world.\Nit's a world that looks like
Dialogue: 0,0:56:22.07,0:56:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the advertising clip of the\NAmerican presidential campaign
Dialogue: 0,0:56:25.76,0:56:29.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or no matter what you say the important thing is\Nyou're trying to smear your opponent
Dialogue: 0,0:56:29.66,0:56:33.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then journalists then who\Nin any case in Switzerland have totally
Dialogue: 0,0:56:33.77,0:56:38.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lost sight of the balance of points\Nof sight and the duty of truth in which they are
Dialogue: 0,0:56:38.51,0:56:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to reflect things in a way\Napproximately in line with reality.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:41.42,0:56:44.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's the world today.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:44.75,0:56:50.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it is the same in the German-speaking part of Switzerland and in\NItalian-speaking Switzerland ? Yes, if you want, it's
Dialogue: 0,0:56:50.15,0:56:55.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little bit different because Switzerland\Nhas a tradition of conformity, extreme.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:55.33,0:57:00.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In France you love to bite your nose off\Non the TV sets, everyone's screaming,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:00.05,0:57:03.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it gesticulates, nobody listens to anybody
Dialogue: 0,0:57:03.53,0:57:08.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then that's a good debate.\NIn Switzerland, it is above all nothing to say
Dialogue: 0,0:57:08.90,0:57:12.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that could offend anyone,\Nand that could disturb anyone.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:12.44,0:57:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And anyone who creates a breach of the rule\Nmakes himself badly seen by everyone.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:16.16,0:57:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So obviously I went quite hard\Nyou see, but by telling me the subject
Dialogue: 0,0:57:20.90,0:57:23.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is so important, the stakes\Nare so great and above all the risks
Dialogue: 0,0:57:23.99,0:57:28.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we make the population run with\Nsuch bad management are such
Dialogue: 0,0:57:28.67,0:57:32.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I have a duty to open my mouth.\NSo then I hit myself head-on
Dialogue: 0,0:57:32.90,0:57:39.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the fact that criticizing the authorities :\N"But Mr. Trotta, you don't think about it! »
Dialogue: 0,0:57:39.92,0:57:44.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the end it is infantilism,\Nbut which takes another form.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:44.33,0:57:48.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first interview you did,\NI had to pinch myself twice: he is
Dialogue: 0,0:57:48.89,0:57:54.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Switzerland! Not possible.\NYou must have shocked there in the country.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:54.61,0:57:59.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's funny of course it was shocking.\NAnd then I have the pleasure
Dialogue: 0,0:57:59.63,0:58:03.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little bit of pride, I apologize,\Nbut to see that four months
Dialogue: 0,0:58:03.29,0:58:07.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,later all I said was\Nright. So what I found
Dialogue: 0,0:58:07.73,0:58:11.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interesting, so of course I went quite frankly.\Nand that, my faith, is a risk I took.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:11.66,0:58:14.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that it is mainly the fact
Dialogue: 0,0:58:14.42,0:58:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for saying true things that shocked.\NAs for Raoult
Dialogue: 0,0:58:19.52,0:58:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as for Peronne,\Nand in the hundreds of emails I have received
Dialogue: 0,0:58:23.87,0:58:30.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of doctors, a significant number of\Nsaid to me: "we don't dare to say
Dialogue: 0,0:58:30.77,0:58:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we think for fear of the consequences. »\NAnd I ask the question:
Dialogue: 0,0:58:35.12,0:58:39.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is a democracy\Nin which doctors dare not say
Dialogue: 0,0:58:39.38,0:58:42.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what they are convinced of\Nin their soul and conscience.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:42.32,0:58:47.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the freedom of opinion,\Nsomeone may have a different opinion.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:47.54,0:58:50.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what is a system\Nwhere people are terrorized?
Dialogue: 0,0:58:50.33,0:58:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's it. And what is a system\Nor doctors are censored?
Dialogue: 0,0:58:56.48,0:59:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or punished for treating people or persecuted, etc...\NAnd then I did
Dialogue: 0,0:59:02.24,0:59:06.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,published on my blog a lot of letters\Nwhich I have called "resistant doctors".
Dialogue: 0,0:59:06.67,0:59:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A woman doctor in Paris who fought\Nbut like a lioness
Dialogue: 0,0:59:11.15,0:59:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that one of those 85-year-old patients\Nbe cared for when they had decided
Dialogue: 0,0:59:16.94,0:59:22.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not to treat her, to let her die,\Nshe struggled for four hours with the head doctor,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:22.10,0:59:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she has managed to get her way, and now,\Nshe brings joy to her children and grandchildren.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:30.20,0:59:34.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to fight against my government\Nto find hydroxydoroquine
Dialogue: 0,0:59:34.01,0:59:37.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I was sick of the covid.\NAnd I was able to arrange a clandestine deal
Dialogue: 0,0:59:37.67,0:59:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a parking lot to get\Na drug that could save my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:43.16,0:59:48.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to trick my government.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:48.23,0:59:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What kind of world do we live in? Medicines\Nthat were on sale over the counter a short time ago.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:53.14,0:59:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Exactly. And what keeps me\Nknocking you see is what it looks like
Dialogue: 0,0:59:59.00,1:00:02.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be an evidence for you,\Nit's obvious to me, but when I talk about it
Dialogue: 0,1:00:02.42,1:00:07.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for example, to health officials here,\Nthey don't see why it's a problem for me.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:07.13,1:00:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're surprised that it makes me angry\Nor that it shocks me
Dialogue: 0,1:00:12.32,1:00:17.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that I find it questionable.\NThat's crazy. It's crazy but I think
Dialogue: 0,1:00:17.81,1:00:20.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we've tipped over\Nin a collective madness.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:20.42,1:00:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People are in awe.\NThere's a psychic rift that makes you think more...
Dialogue: 0,1:00:25.52,1:00:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So sometimes it goes into hysteria.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:28.94,1:00:32.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've had medical teachers\Nwho insulted me by telling me
Dialogue: 0,1:00:32.45,1:00:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I was dangerous.\NHysterical. I wanted to throw them out.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:37.40,1:00:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a bucket of water in the face\Nto bring them back to their senses.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:39.50,1:00:44.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,University professors of medicine.\NIt shows that the emotional brain
Dialogue: 0,1:00:44.09,1:00:46.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is even in everyone's home since
Dialogue: 0,1:00:46.37,1:00:49.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just because you're a university professor\Nthat you can't be in the same state
Dialogue: 0,1:00:49.91,1:00:57.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of inner panic. And he gave you one of the arguments?\NYes. What did he give you?
Dialogue: 0,1:00:57.44,1:01:01.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an argument? Why were they hysterical?\NWhat were they mad at you about? Listen in part.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:01.61,1:01:05.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I understood because he said\Nthat he disputed my statement
Dialogue: 0,1:01:05.81,1:01:09.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we were in a natural order of magnitude\Nfor an epidemic in terms of
Dialogue: 0,1:01:09.23,1:01:14.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contagiousness, dangerousness and lethality.\NAnd he said to me, but you don't account for it!
Dialogue: 0,1:01:14.36,1:01:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had dozens and dozens of beds\Nwith people in intensive care,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:18.05,1:01:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it never happened, so...\Nand from this point of view he was not wrong.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:20.72,1:01:25.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is to say, the clinical reality,\Nas it can be observed
Dialogue: 0,1:01:25.16,1:01:29.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the peak of an epidemic it's different\Nthe epidemiological reality that says that
Dialogue: 0,1:01:29.99,1:01:34.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it didn't kill more than usual.\NIt is two realities that are adjacent,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:34.58,1:01:38.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you want. But him because he was\Nso anxious, and then it was a man
Dialogue: 0,1:01:38.63,1:01:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than 70 years old, so I think that deep down\Nhe was freaking out about himself. He felt like
Dialogue: 0,1:01:42.86,1:01:46.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that death was lurking and then me,\Ninstead of fighting with him against death,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:46.67,1:01:49.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was saying that\Nbut no, but no, death was not dangerous.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:49.19,1:01:53.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then somehow he couldn't stand it.\NSo these are arguments
Dialogue: 0,1:01:53.45,1:01:56.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he was trying to get, but I had a good time.\Nrepeat it five or six times until the moment when the
Dialogue: 0,1:01:56.69,1:02:01.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I was forced to block it\Nsocial networks so much it became harassing.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:01.64,1:02:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To explain to him:\NI don't dispute what you're saying.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:04.91,1:02:09.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but from an epidemiological point of view\Nthat's what it is. But he had lost
Dialogue: 0,1:02:09.23,1:02:14.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ability to think about these issues.\NI hope that he will read and listen to you and then
Dialogue: 0,1:02:14.45,1:02:16.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he will realize that, since the internet has some\Nmemory,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:16.97,1:02:22.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you were right. Oh, I didn't so much\Nconfidence in it. You know what
Dialogue: 0,1:02:22.01,1:02:25.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Max Planck said about scientists?\NHe said, quite rightly, and so he who has
Dialogue: 0,1:02:25.97,1:02:29.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,revolutionized physics with physics\Nquantum, he was saying a new theory
Dialogue: 0,1:02:29.37,1:02:34.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not necessary because the proponents of the\Nancient theories adhere to it,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:34.88,1:02:38.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is necessary because the proponents\Nof the old theories end up dying
Dialogue: 0,1:02:38.58,1:02:43.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's a new generation coming\Nwho has no prejudices
Dialogue: 0,1:02:43.29,1:02:49.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compared to the theory. And you see, I didn't\Nso much hope on that side.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:49.44,1:02:55.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that people who are so robbed do not\Nwill never be right. In any case
Dialogue: 0,1:02:55.65,1:03:00.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're going to keep fighting,\NWe've been talking for an hour.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:00.30,1:03:04.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It passes quickly the time\Nthat we discuss together.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:04.32,1:03:11.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In any case, Jean-Dominique, you continue.\NSubscribe to his blog. Read,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:11.55,1:03:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,share his articles, because\NFrankly, they are extremely well done,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:15.42,1:03:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and very documented very sourced, it is really\Nthe work of a very great professional
Dialogue: 0,1:03:21.36,1:03:25.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and do not hesitate to share them frankly.\NJean-Dominique, thank you
Dialogue: 0,1:03:25.80,1:03:30.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can go on my channel whenever you want.\NThanks to you, frankly, one moment
Dialogue: 0,1:03:30.78,1:03:34.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of quality. That's why time flies.\NAnd then indeed
Dialogue: 0,1:03:34.26,1:03:37.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fortunately, free electrons\Nas you and I dare to take
Dialogue: 0,1:03:37.29,1:03:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their responsibilities. I've been criticized a lot\Nnot to be an academic. And at some point,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:41.76,1:03:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my wife told me, made me observe:\N"But if you were a university professor
Dialogue: 0,1:03:45.18,1:03:47.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a 20-year career,\Nyou would never have dared to say what you said. »
Dialogue: 0,1:03:47.73,1:03:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's where the difference lies,\Non the contrary it must be valued,
Dialogue: 0,1:03:51.84,1:03:55.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listen to everyone and so that\Npeople can make up their own minds
Dialogue: 0,1:03:55.14,1:04:00.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to what makes sense.\NThanks to you in any case.
Dialogue: 0,1:04:00.06,1:04:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you Jean-Dominique thank you bye-bye.\NSee you soon! Ciao!