[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Moderator) We have with us someone\Nwho has been involved Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in digital learning innovation \Nfor more than 20 years Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please welcome the University of Western\NAustralia Pro Vice-Chancellor Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Education Innovation,\NGilly Salmon (0:12) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Gilly Salmon) So I'm going to talk to you\Nabout the impossible. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you're easily scared, \Nyou can leave now or at any time, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's OK with me. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I come from the very young country \Nof Australia. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of you know I'm not Australian, but \NI've been living there nearly 5 years now. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Probably another 20 .... except me (check) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in the young country of Australia,\Na university that's 100-years old Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is very, very, very old. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, and now, the University of Western\NAustralia is very, very old. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a research-intensive, one with the \Nmost schools and campuses in the world, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the mouth of the Swan River,\Nin Western Australia, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm going to show you a 1-minute movie\Nto get a glimpse of our environment Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also our dreams. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you need to watch very carefully,\Nbecause I'm going to talk about Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the brief glimpse you get of the buildings\Nbecause that's where my center is, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Centre for Education Future. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we will move to the movie, please. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(strong-beat music) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(shouts) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(panting) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(narrator) When we start moving forward,\Nthe world starts with us. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(strong wind in branches - panting) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(narrator) So chase your dream.\NIt's only impossible until it's done. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Pursue impossible] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[The University of Western Australia] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)\N(Salmon) Thank you. 2:52 Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We made that movie to try and inspire\Nour students Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we actually found it inspires us\Neven more. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, right at the beginning you saw\Nsome work for Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,University of Western Australia\Nare true heritage buildings. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I -- in there, we've put\Na future's observatory Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a learning design studio, \Nto try and inspire the impossible Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in both our faculty members and ultimately\Nour students, to new design. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I've got this weird job title, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pro Vice-Chancellor \NEducation Innovation. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sure when I was appointed, \Njust over 12 months ago, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nobody knew what that meant. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fortunately, they did allow me to\Ninvent it. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While you're listening to me, \Njust to say there's going to be Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a bit of a poll at the end. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you got the My OEB app, \Nyou can look it up, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if not, there is a website, \Nthere is a link there up, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that you can take part in the poll\Nin a bit. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I actually think an incredible\Nnumber of words have been written Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about innovation, especially in the scope\Nof educational innovation Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and disruptive technology. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I did a bit of a survey. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i wasn't as knowledgeable \Nas some of those people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you've just heard speaking, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it was rather odd that probably\None of the very top things Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you can see, was how to promote\Ninnovation Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the changing modes of teaching, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I think is probably \None of our biggest challenges of all. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And actually, creating an evidence base\Nfor that, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you all know, in universities,\Nthat's the way it goes: Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you haven't got evidence for it,\Nit doesn't exist. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, we did a bit of a survey; \Nthere were the top universities, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we did some visits as well, in the US\Nas well as other parts in the world. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And everyone, just everyone has still\Nreally not got into Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,achieving true innovation. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so for me, that's \Nstill a bit of a mystery, and I think Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's really rather extraordinary that\Neveryone in education, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of you, at every level, \Nis trying to do this Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yet most organizations,\Nmost institutions Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are still striving to reorientate\Nthemselves to an innovation culture. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What will distinguish them,\Nwhat will differentiate them? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What they offer their students\Nand stakeholders. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we could very very easily blame it Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the level of dogmatic approaches\Nand resistance. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet, by their nature, don't you think\Nthat most staff working in education Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are often the most open to change\Nand development, would you agree? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I found it really quite a conundrum\Nto tackle this. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, maybe, you heard the first keynote\Nthis morning, David Price. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe we're in denial \Nthat we even need to change, possibly: Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's one answer. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So some of my answers: Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know the university sector best, \Nso I'll talk about that. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I do actually think that \Nthis may apply Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to many of the other sectors \Nrepresented in this room. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The higher education sector, \Nacross the world, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is very compressed but also\Nhighly competitive now, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also marginally differentiated. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's mainly differentiated by \N.......... (check) research profile, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,research orientation,.........\Nreputation. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also, everyone is upright Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in an increasingly less and less and less\Nregulated world. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those of you standing, there's a few\Nwhite pods, you can sit on them Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the front here...... Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're not too frightened. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, governments around the world\Nare pressing for larger proportions Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of their populations to attend university. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of them, not here in Germany, \NI understand, but most of us Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have made paying for the experience\Na lifelong one. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For most students, and even that\Nhas done little Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to dampen the enthusiasm \Nfor higher education, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's more people going to university\Nthan really ever has in our lifetime. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our children and our grandchildren \Nare going to go Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forward and forward and forward. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there does appear to be, using\Nthe entrepreneurs' word, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reliable growth in the market place. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So therefore, we need to innovate. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need to find ways \Nof reaching that growth. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Second. Of course we know -- it has just\Nbeen mentioned in the session just now -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the number of university campuses\Nwould have to increase Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at an incredible alarming rate. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've heard something like 1 per month\Nfor the next 10 years Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to meet the requirements\Nof teaching in traditional ways. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Clearly, that's not going to happen,\Nit's also not practical to extend Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the existing campuses that we have\Nwith physical capacity and real estate. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So therefore, innovation, again,\Nis needed. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Third. We know much of the way\Nthat we are teaching in Universities Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the moment, will not provide \Nthe citizens of the future Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the right skills, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nor will they graduate with the ability\Nto undertake multiple careers Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during their life times. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've also heard most babies being born\Ntoday will live to over 100. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, we really need to be educating \Nthose people, don't we? Not ourselves. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in short, the nature of work \Nis changing. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So whatever our educational purposes,\Nthe need for change is striking. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And everyone of us has \Na shared responsibility, as educators, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to innovate to meet these and \Nmany other challenges that we face. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, why would we turn to technology\Nto assist us in this conundrum Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is one of my questions. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But one of the things I've done, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since I've been at the University \Nof Western Australia, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as I mentioned, we put \Na physical space. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's kind of a cross between a space\Nfor the community to gather, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a bit of a makers' space too; Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somewhere a bit different,\Na bit different from the traditional areas Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's actually for staff, \Nnot for students. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most universities in the world \Nare changing their libraries Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and many of their traditional buildings\Ninto informal spaces for students, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we thought we might do that \Nfor staff too. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we called it The Future's Observatory. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So why put some technology in it? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, many forces, of course, \Nin our society, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can bring about large scale changes\Nin economics and societies, but Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since the Industrial Revolution, say,\Nthe late 18th, early 19th centuries, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technology has had this unique role, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,empowering growth \Nand transforming economic value. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has to be technology. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Technology represents in itself\Nnew ways of doing things Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and once mastered, creates lasting change Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which, applied to universities \Nand schools, and training of all kind, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we won't immediately unlearn, you know: Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our teachers, ways of teaching, \Nour campuses, physical and virtual, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finally, through technologies, the ideas\Nbecome implanted as innovations Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and our world starts to move faster. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can make it faster. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the most interesting part of this,\Nfor me, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that some technologies \Nhave the potential Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to disrupt the status quo in education, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- and we've just been talking about\Nsome of them -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and lead finally to true innovation \Nin the service of learning Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and alter the way we imagine our teaching,\Nteach our students, choose a curriculum, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assess their ability, \Ninstill new coaches in them, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they live and work differently \Nin the future: Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in practice, create entirely new products\Nand services. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And others simply do not. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for me, things like lecture capture\Nsimply does not, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it reproduces the ways\Nwe've undertaken learning for centuries. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think we need to be very careful\Nin what technologies we choose Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to disrupt and drive our innovations. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Otherwise, we simply embed the old better\Nthan we did before. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the other thing to say is that\Neducation leaders cannot wait Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until the meager, meager evolution that \NI've seen in my 20 years in this field Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,catch up, somehow, and we're not going \Nto do it with Learning Management Systems Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we'll really not, you know, they're\Nsimply not moving. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've just chosen a new Learning Management\NSystem Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the University of Western Australia. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got the best I could, \Nbut the original values Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the way people teach and learn\Nare still in there, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we need to change that, we need\Nto move forward on that. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we also cannot be held back \Nby other industries on which we depend. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, so the patch defense, going on,\Nfor example, with publishers. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We cannot let that happen, \Nwe do need to change this. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's time -- referring back \Nto this morning -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to stop being 12 white men \Nsitting around the table, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to stop rearranging the furniture\Nand actually move on with the world. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if we don't do it, \Nno one else is going to. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's those of you who are here\Nwith me today Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's actually going to do that run\Nthat you saw my students do earlier. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So at the moment, the link definitely\Nbetween height and potential Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is very unclear. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, there are still surprises to come. 15:03