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(Jacques) Good morning!

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Good morning, everybody!

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(Audience) Good morning!

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Claudine and I are delighted 
to be with you this morning

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to be the first ones.

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I left home when I was 13
to go to apprenticeship,

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that was in 1949.

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Actually, home was a restaurant
where my mother was the chef,

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I was already in that business.

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In fact, there was 12 restaurants
through the years in my family

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and 12 of them owned by women,

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I'm the first male to enter 
that business in my family.

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I went into apprenticeship from Lyon,
where my mother had her little restaurant

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to Bourg-en-Bresse, where 
I was born a few miles away.

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Prior to that, when we were 
about 8-9 years old,

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my mother had that little restaurant

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so, my brother and I, 
before going to school,

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walked with my mother to the market

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- the St. Antoine market
along the Saône river -

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and she would walk the market one way, 
about 1/2 a mile, and buy on her way back.

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Buying a case of mushrooms 
which were getting dark

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maybe for a third of the price or less.

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We carried, of course,
we didn't have a car at the time.

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She'd get home and start doing 
her vegetables, peeling for the day.

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She did not have 
a refrigerator at that time.

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She had an ice box, that is
a block of ice into a little cabinet,

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so she'd have chicken of the day, meat,

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fish, usually, whiting or mackerel 
or skate - inexpensive fish -

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and that she has to use it that day.

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And again, the day after, 
we start all over again.

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Everything was organic, 
everything was local.

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The word organic did not really exist --

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well, since chemical fertilizers 
did not exist either,

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or fungicides, insecticides, pesticides,
all that stuff did not exist,

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so everything was, you know, local and --

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(Claudine) Organic.
(Jacques) Organic, that's it.

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So, I went into apprenticeship, 
I was 13 years old and, at that time,

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it was very structured,
well, still is to certain extend,

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you got to be there on time,
you got to be clean,

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you have to be willing,

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it's discipline, it's structure,
that's the way a kitchen can work.

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We learn through a type of osmosis.

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The chef never really explained 
anything, he'd just say, "Do that".

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And if you say, "Why?", and he'd say, 
"Because I just told you".

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That was about the end
of the apprenticeship.

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Probably, just as good for
someone who's 13-14 years old.

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So, we worked, repeating, and repeating,
and repeating those techniques ad nauseam;

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we were not allowed
to go to the stove for a year.

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So, during that year,
I did pluck a lot of chicken,

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eviscerated a lot of chicken, 
scaled fish, chopped parsley,

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all of that type of things,
and then, the chef called me --

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My name was "you" at the time,

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then by the time I went to the stove,
they called me Jacques, so I got the name.

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So, he said, "You start tomorrow".

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"I start tomorrow?",
I didn't know how to do it;

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I went to the stove
and I knew how to do it.

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There was that type of osmosis,
things that you show, that you mentor.

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I've got a book called, "La technique",
that I published in 1975,

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so it's 40-year old,

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and I don't cook
the way I did 40 years ago.

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But the way I did an egg white, 
or sharpen a knife,

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or bone out a chicken, 
to give you a sense;

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it is that kind of permanence,
that kind of continuity,

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that, you learn in the kitchen;

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to be first a craftsman.

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And it's very difficult, 
very often, to explain in words

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something that you can show --

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It's easier to show --

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than to explain

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in words.

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You can do that to chocolate as well.

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You'd do that at exactly 
the right temperature.

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And we used to

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put the butter in 
a little container, that on top,

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and now you can charge 20 bucks for it.

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(Laughter)

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Put that in water that's cold, 
so we could do whatever.

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(Applause)

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Thank you, Titine.

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For me, first you have to be a craftsman.

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You have to be a craftsman, and is
that repeat, and repeat, and repeat,

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that is very important.

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Just like

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you can spend a year, two years, 
in a studio in art school

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and learn the law of perspective,
it is perfectly fine,

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and you learn how to mix 
yellow and blue to make green,

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you know what to do with your thumb, 
with your spatula, with the brush;

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then you can come out and 
do one painting after another.

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Does that make you a chef? Not really.

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But you're by then, a good craftsman,
and that's very important.

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You have, first, to know your trade,

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whether you are

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a shoemaker, or a cabinet maker
- like my father -

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first, you know your trade.

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So, those things that we boned out

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I learned, as I said, as a child.

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And then, I learned this from --

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I don't remember where I learn that but --

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when you learn something 
you learn it a certain way

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and after a while, you don't remember 
where it comes from,

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and you do it your own way, eventually.

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To do a type of lollipop 
like that, as we used to --

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So, those techniques, as I said,
first make you a craftsman,

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and if you are a good craftsman,
then you can run a restaurant.

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There are about 20,000 restaurants in NY

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and 100 are well known, maybe 200, 
maybe 300, maybe 400 even,

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but what happen to the 19,500
is that they are run by artisans,

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people who know how to work properly,

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and this is the only way if you become,
in my opinion, a good craftsman,

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if you have that type of knowledge,
then you can express yourself.

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This is half of yourself,

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the other half has to do with talent.

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If you have talent --

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If you happen to have talent,

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by this I mean, if you have taste,

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if you have a bit of a vision,

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if you have a little bit of creativity,

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then you can express yourself,

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you now have the means in your hands
to express yourself,

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if you've gone through those techniques.

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You have to repeat 
those techniques, as I said,

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long enough so that,
you can afford to forget it after.

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Here we are, 
half of this, now the filet.

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(Claudine) If you have any questions
you should shout them out,

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it's a good opportunity.

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(Claudine) There's going to be a test.

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(Laughter)

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(Jacques) This way.

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There's my carcass.

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Now, the tip of the filet,
you remove it here.

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This one here --

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So, you free your hand
by learning those techniques

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and as I said, you can now

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think in term of texture,
in term of other things

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because, as I said, you free your hand
by repeating and repeating.

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Now, this is one part of yourself,

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half of yourself is there, 
it's the craftsman;

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the other part of yourself

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now depend on whether 
you have talent or not,

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and even if you have 
a little bit of talent, not too much,

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you can still run a little restaurant
by being a good technician.

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If you have a lot of talent,
then you can take it further.

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Not all the chefs are René Redzepi,

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or David Chang,

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or José Andrés --

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Here we are.

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(Applause) (Cheers)

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(Jacques) At that point 
you really don't want to cut the bone

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because the skin will shrink 
all over the place so, we break it.

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And you know, the interesting part
is that if you carve in the dining room,

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or if you do a quail 
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the morphology is the same.

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If you cut a chicken 
in pieces to do a skew,

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you cut exactly in the sample place,
at the shoulder joint, at the hip joint --

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Okay.

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Now, you have to be very proud 
of what you're doing

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but you also have to be humble
to a certain extend

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because there's always someone

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who can think with 
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who can think harder than you do.

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We're all limited
by the extent of our taste

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and they are different,

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and sometimes, you have people,

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like a food critic, who doesn't 
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but maybe who can
taste better than you do.

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We fail on that and sometimes
it's not easy to take,

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but that's the way it is.

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For me, a young chef should work
with a good chef, in a good place,

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and at that point your aim is 
to try to visualize what that chef does.

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If she or he works with you,
then you try to see --

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Yeah, that's where there are no bones --

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a little bit here --

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you try to see the food through
his or her sense of aesthetic,

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their sense of taste,

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and even if it doesn't coincide with you,

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most of the time it won't coincide

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with your sense of taste
or your sense of aesthetic,

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but it doesn't 
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you have to look at it through that,

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and you do it for a year or two,

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then you work with another chef
for a year or two,

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and again looking at things 
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different sense of aesthetic,

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and then maybe with a third one
a few more times --

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then, at some point,
you're going to give it back.

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You're going to give it back,

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and now you're going to filter it
through your sense of taste,

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through your sense of aesthetic,

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that's how it works

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because ultimately, at some point,
you cannot escape yourself,

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you are who you are, and that's the way
how you are going to do it.

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It's always a bit of a paradox for me

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because I work with young chefs
like at Boston University

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and everyone wants to do 
something special and different.

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I do a class which I call a perfect meal,

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which is a roast chicken,
a bowl of potatoes and a salad.

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It used to be done this way:

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They all go to the stove
to do the same type of things

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and I say, "Don't try to blew my mind
because I know that I have 12 people here,

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I'm going to have 12 different chicken."

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Because that's the way it is,

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you don't really have to torture yourself 
to be different, you are different,

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there's no way that you can 
do exactly the same thing

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than the person next to you.

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This is a good beef stuffing 
- not really - but

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just to give you an idea.

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Okay, Titine --

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So, we have our galantine,
that is if we poach it,

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and our ballotine if we roast it.

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Thank you.

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So, we put it this way --

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(Claudine) No questions?

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(Jacques) Okay.

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(Jacques) Very quiet here.

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(Claudine) I know.

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(Claudine) Do you want some wine?

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(Jacques) Ah, my daughter knows me --

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(Laughter)

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(Jacques) Our galantine, so --

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(Applause)

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(Jacques) Up to that point --

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(Claudine) You have five minutes --

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(Jacques) Oh yeah, okay.

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The technique to do something
remain fairly constant,

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but at that point
this is what it'll change:

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when you're happy with the way 
you cook it, what you do with it,

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the seasoning and all of that 
become your own.

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Okay.

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- (Jacques) Pepper, Titine?
- (Claudine) Yeah.

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(Jacques) That's your salt --

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(Pepper mill grinding)

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(Claudine) Everybody needs one of me 
in your kitchen, you all need me --

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(Laughter)

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(Jacques) Now I cook with
my granddaughter as well.

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(Claudine) She's 12.

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(Jacques) Yes --

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when I did a television show 
with Claudine many years ago --

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(Jacques) Why did you 
give me two of those?

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(Claudine) I offered
whatever you want it --

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(Jacques) Okay, good.

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(Jacques) I learned how to make 
three different types of omelettes.

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A flat omelette, called à la piperade

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or omelette basquaise and so forth --

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Western omelette, as it's called the US,

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and then, we did an omelette
that my mother would do

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with very large curd, brown --

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and then we did a more 
classic omelette - like this one -

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and for those we want to make 
very small curds, like scramble egg.

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Now, there are three different 
types of omelettes that I would do,

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one is not better than the other,
it's just different.

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A few weeks ago, 
I did that for a television

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who came to my house and wanted me
to do the three types of omelettes,

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which I did --

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and then they realized they only have 
a minute and a half when they edited,

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so they just took some stuff 
from one omelette to the other,

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to the other, and mix 
the whole thing together --

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(Laughter)

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(Jacques) What a waste!

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So, here you bring it back here,

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so that you're now rolling 
really a carpet --

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so you're just bringing one lid --

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one lid here and a half moon --

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nice half moon --

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bring that here --

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bring the other lid on top --

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this is the time 
when you want to stuff it,

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change hands --

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and then that omelette should be --

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to the edge --

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Ooooh!

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The chef in my kitchen --

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(Applause)

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The chef in my kitchen 
would have seen the pleads on top

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and he would have done some reference
to the behind of his grandmother --

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(Laughter)

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As you see, it should be pale 
right on top, very creamy,

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very soft inside, like scramble eggs,

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and that's what a classic omelette is.

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Yes, Claudine?

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(Claudine) Yes, papa!

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(Jacques) Will you drink to that?

282
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(Claudine) I will!

283
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(Jacques) Thank you very much!

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(Applause) (Cheers)

285
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(Claudine) Whatever 
you take away from here, I hope --

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and it's so wonderful that 
you're taking the time to be here,

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I hope you share 
your knowledge with everyone

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because that's how the craft continues,

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that's how our trade continues,
that's how it gets better.

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(Jacques) Yeah, I realized quite well,
all of you know those techniques,

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some better than me... 
yet, I thank you for coming

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and listening to me, but for me
the permanence is there,

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to teach, to explain and to show
at least the basic structure,

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and at that point, when you have
that type of manual dexterity

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or technical knowledge,

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then you can run a kitchen quite well.

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As I said, if you happen to have talent,

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then you bring it to a another level

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and, like the person who works 
in a studio for a couple of years,

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after that, you know how 
to mix all your paintings,

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and know what you can do with a brush,

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you step outside you do 
one painting after another --

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Does that make you an artist?

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Not really, at that point 
you're a good craftsman.

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If, however, you have talent,

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now you have the means in your hands
to express that talent,

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to take it somewhere.

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As I said, you do have to 
transcend that level

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at which you have to concentrate
on the manual task that you're at.

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You see a beginner coming around
and you say: "Do you have any parsley?"

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and he says: "Don't disturb me,
someone is slicing something."

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You have to transcend that level
so you don't have to think about it,

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things that are there, 
so you can think in terms of texture,

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combination of ingredients,
or things like these.

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Right, Titine?

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(Claudine) Right. 
Do you have any questions?

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(Jacques) I think I was there
at one and a half minute,

318
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now I'm back to seven minutes?

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(Laughter)

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(Claudine) Okay!

321
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(Jacques) Yes --

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Any questions?

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No questions? Yes, sir?

324
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(Audience comments)

325
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(Claudine) Oh, yeah.
(Jacques) Do I know that man here?

326
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(Claudine) I gave him 20 bucks before 
to say that. Thank you, Michelle!

327
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(Claudine blows a kiss)

328
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(Jacques) Thank you, Michelle... yes!

329
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I know that there are great, 
fantastic chefs here --

330
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we had an extraordinary, 
extraordinary meal at Noma,

331
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I'm gratified to be here,

332
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I know I'm the oldest of the group

333
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and now that I've passed 80 years old
I'm supposed to be wise.

334
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I don't think that I'm wiser
than when I was 30 years old

335
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but this is what happens when you get old.

336
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You think I'm wise, Claudine?

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- (Claudine) Yes, yes, of course, you are!
- (Jacques) Ok, that's a good daughter.

338
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(Laughter)

339
00:21:22,428 --> 00:21:26,841
(Jacques) Now I'm doing a show
with my granddaughter, Shorey,

340
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which we called "Lesson of a grandfather".

341
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So, little things, 
even how to set up a table,

342
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eat properly at the table or --

343
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But no, not enjoying wine yet.

344
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(Claudine) No, no, no wine yet,
it's just to give us show, so --

345
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(Laughter)

346
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(Claudine) Yes, sir?

347
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(Audience comments)

348
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It's a very interesting question.
Do you want to repeat the question?

349
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(Claudine) The question is
how are the kitchens today

350
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different than the kitchens
that my father was an apprentice in.

351
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Pretty dramatic?

352
00:22:05,588 --> 00:22:08,563
(Jacques) Yes, well, no... but, yes!

353
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(Laughter)

354
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There is a permanence there,
the point is that

355
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you still have to come on time,

356
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you still have to be ready to work,

357
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you still work in a place which is 
very structured, very disciplined,

358
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like in the army,

359
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you don't say, "Yes, captain!",
but you say, "Yes, chef!",

360
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it's about the same thing
and you have to --

361
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you have to, so that 
the kitchen works properly.

362
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You're a member of a team,

363
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and if you're late or don't show up
to be part of that team,

364
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you're going to destroy the structure,

365
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so that remains the same.

366
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That being said, when I was a kid,

367
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we would never up there
to cut a tomato --

368
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we only cut it in one direction,

369
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we'd never alternate to the other side
when I worked at the Plaza and in Paris,

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or whatever in the fifties.

371
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Now, there's a much greater deal

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and innovation is part of yourself too.

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And, of course, we,
up to 20-30 years ago --

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I've been in the kitchen 65-67 years --

375
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the cook were at the bottom
of the social scale.

376
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Any good mother would have wanted
her child to marry a doctor, an architect,

377
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certainly not a cook.

378
00:23:16,809 --> 00:23:20,388
Now we are genius! I don't know 
exactly what happened but --

379
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this is great, this is terrific,
so it's quite different.

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- (Claudine) Papa, he has a question.
- (Jacques) Yes, sir.

381
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- (René) I have a question for you.
- (Jacques) Yes.

382
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(René) You said you're 
more than 80, right?

383
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(Jacques) Yes.

384
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(René) I'm 39.

385
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I think a lot of cooks 
that deal with this --

386
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what can I say, like, guilt, sometimes --

387
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they feel like they should be yearning
for something in the past,

388
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that in the past 
things were better, kind of --

389
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Can you please tell us

390
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how it used to be in the kitchen

391
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and whether you think 
the life in the kitchen is better today,

392
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and actually, do you think 
that food has become better

393
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- and is becoming better?
- (Jacques) Yes.

394
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(René) Or, was it better 
back in the old days?

395
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No, it is better,
there's a cycle also --

396
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certainly as I said, my mother used 
only organic products too

397
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but that's what we have,
we didn't have anything else,

398
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so we're going back to that,
which is a great thing, of course,

399
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to be in communion with the Earth

400
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and in communion to where you work,

401
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and be local, and so forth.

402
00:24:30,910 --> 00:24:32,501
Yes, absolutely.

403
00:24:32,951 --> 00:24:34,305
The cooks now still have

404
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the same structure
that we used to have

405
00:24:36,229 --> 00:24:40,630
but you have much more freedom
than we ever had before.

406
00:24:41,888 --> 00:24:45,340
Certainly, I got kicked in the rear end
a few times by my chefs,

407
00:24:45,340 --> 00:24:49,183
I mean it was the type of things
that it was supposed at that time --

408
00:24:49,183 --> 00:24:50,709
it was supposed to be difficult,

409
00:24:50,709 --> 00:24:53,181
you have to go to 
a rite of passage and all of that,

410
00:24:53,181 --> 00:24:54,770
which is not really necessary,

411
00:24:54,770 --> 00:24:56,892
you don't need to be yelled at --

412
00:25:00,302 --> 00:25:04,532
I've seen a lot of show on television,
certainly, reality show,

413
00:25:04,532 --> 00:25:09,279
and the kitchen is like mayhem and 
the chef is yelling all over the place.

414
00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:12,306
This is not conducive 
to good work, certainly.

415
00:25:12,539 --> 00:25:16,478
There's a great deal of love, a great deal
of yourself that you put in that food,

416
00:25:16,478 --> 00:25:20,739
and the yelling at other people,
the lack of respect,

417
00:25:20,739 --> 00:25:25,032
those things are not conducive,
in my opinion, to learning well

418
00:25:25,032 --> 00:25:27,418
and teaching people how to cook.

419
00:25:27,418 --> 00:25:31,248
At a certain age, when I was 12-13,
the best way of learning

420
00:25:31,248 --> 00:25:34,859
was probably through 
that kind of osmotic way:

421
00:25:34,859 --> 00:25:37,619
you look, you repeat, 
you look, you repeat, and so forth.

422
00:25:37,619 --> 00:25:39,418
We passed that level now.

423
00:25:39,418 --> 00:25:42,998
Chefs come from cooking schools,

424
00:25:42,998 --> 00:25:46,220
they come out from college
when they are older,

425
00:25:46,220 --> 00:25:48,841
they want to know how to do it,
they want us to explain,

426
00:25:48,841 --> 00:25:51,989
so it's a different way of teaching
than what we're used to;

427
00:25:51,989 --> 00:25:55,229
and people are much more in a hurry
than how we were too;

428
00:25:55,229 --> 00:25:58,412
we had at least three other apprenticeship
without paid or anything,

429
00:25:58,412 --> 00:26:01,779
so, you know, there are 
six apprentices in front of you --

430
00:26:02,979 --> 00:26:04,577
so, this is much better now.

431
00:26:04,577 --> 00:26:08,379
A much greater respect for the chef,
for what we do for our tradition,

432
00:26:08,379 --> 00:26:10,509
and this is why, I mean, 
we're here today --

433
00:26:10,509 --> 00:26:11,979
- Yes?
- (Claudine) Wrap it up.

434
00:26:11,979 --> 00:26:15,548
(Jacques) Wrap it up. Yes, ma'm, okay.
But I still see one minute --

435
00:26:15,548 --> 00:26:17,320
(Claudine) Trust me.

436
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,431
(Jacques) I don't know whether 
that's the right answer to your question,

437
00:26:21,431 --> 00:26:24,110
or whether I was not 
specific enough but --

438
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,669
(René) Can you just say in a yes or no?


439
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:30,158
(Laughter)

440
00:26:30,158 --> 00:26:33,779
(Claudine) You'll be the first one
to ever get that answer, if it's possible.

441
00:26:33,779 --> 00:26:36,757
- (René) If you look back when you were 30
- (Jacques) Right --

442
00:26:36,757 --> 00:26:39,938
(René) and you look at kitchens 
and chefs and cooking now,

443
00:26:39,938 --> 00:26:41,790
do you believe that is better now?

444
00:26:41,790 --> 00:26:44,130
(Jacques) Oh yes, absolutely, 
no question at all.

445
00:26:44,130 --> 00:26:46,889
- (René) Thank you so much!
- (Jacques) No question at all!

446
00:26:46,889 --> 00:26:48,612
(Applause)

447
00:26:53,429 --> 00:26:56,591
(Claudine) Thank you, of course,
to the MAD team for working there,

448
00:26:56,591 --> 00:27:00,710
took us off to the extend 
that I find extraordinary

449
00:27:00,710 --> 00:27:02,568
and rather inspiring so,

450
00:27:02,568 --> 00:27:05,378
I hope that everyone feels 
really good about the work here,

451
00:27:05,378 --> 00:27:09,748
but, of course, thanks to all of you
for caring so much about what we do

452
00:27:09,748 --> 00:27:12,768
and about what you do 
and bringing it to the next level.

453
00:27:12,768 --> 00:27:15,349
We hope you have a wonderful,
wonderful couple of days.

454
00:27:15,349 --> 00:27:16,829
- Thank you!
- (Jacques) We are!

455
00:27:16,829 --> 00:27:18,469
And drink a lot of wine!
Thank you!

456
00:27:18,649 --> 00:27:21,419
(Applause) (Cheers)

457
00:27:24,459 --> 00:27:26,025
My daughter, Claudine!

458
00:27:42,808 --> 00:27:45,421
- (Jacques) Jose is not here?
- (René) He's here --

459
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:51,138
(Jacques) Okay. Everything I know,
I learned from him, you know.

460
00:27:51,138 --> 00:27:53,378
(Laughter)

461
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