[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.12,0:00:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ LYNDA BENGLIS ] I was asked in the early ‘70s\Nto do installations all over the country. And... Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.40,0:00:35.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the price of the materials and my ticket\NI went to these different places Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.48,0:00:37.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and did an artwork. Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.27,0:00:41.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ rapid jazz music ] Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.20,0:00:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were like statements\Nof the reality that you’d feel Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.92,0:00:53.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the conversations that artists\Nhave with each other Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.60,0:00:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and with the world\Nand with their times. Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.24,0:01:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One thing that these works clearly do\Nis state that the process, Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.00,0:01:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the drawing, texture\Nequal form. Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.32,0:01:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it’s about drawing\Nand these ideas have Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.60,0:01:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come from really painting ideas,\Nyet they’re dimensional. Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.16,0:01:19.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is one thing I’ve always been\Ninterested in exploring. Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.72,0:01:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Eat Meat" is a sand-cast bronze. Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.48,0:01:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has a lovely patina from\Nbeing out in the elements Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.40,0:01:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over 30-40 years. Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.36,0:01:56.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think of myself as a painter,\Nprobably because I don’t use glue. Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.36,0:01:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found my space\Nso to speak Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.92,0:02:06.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I was particularly interested\Nin painterly materials and also form Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.24,0:02:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and space and where\Nthe gesture could take the material. Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.04,0:02:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of them are drawn with\Neither a bucket or a can. Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.64,0:02:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The use of the body,\Nthe use of the hand, Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.44,0:02:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the use of the movement\Nof the body. Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.40,0:02:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dancing and rhythm, Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.48,0:02:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was just very interested in\Nthat kind of bodily gesture. Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.94,0:02:31.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Take it down, Bill. Quick! Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.36,0:02:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They’re all polyurethane. Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.00,0:02:43.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same polyurethane\Nthat’s used in installation. Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.64,0:02:52.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made a couple of pieces\Nof phosphorescence. Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.92,0:02:56.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to light them and they\Nabsorbed the light and Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.92,0:02:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the lights were\Nturned off on a timer. Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.56,0:03:00.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what happened, Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.52,0:03:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the flows in the\Npours and the gravity, Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.56,0:03:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you would see is them\Ncoming down and rising again Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.72,0:03:07.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the same time. Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.88,0:03:13.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’m very interested in\Nhow things change through Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.16,0:03:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our reading of the gravity\Nand the form. Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.72,0:03:20.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If a waterfall freezes,\Nhow do you really read it? Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.12,0:03:24.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can read it going up or down\Nand how do you read it? Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.74,0:03:35.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ static buzzing ] Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.55,0:03:37.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- This is my sister Jane. Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.55,0:03:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's getting on the... Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.89,0:03:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,motorbike. Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.18,0:03:46.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Still motorbike. Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.94,0:03:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Weight-reducing bike. Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.88,0:03:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The camera had to be turned sideways so I could get Jane in. Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.63,0:03:57.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was riding the bike. Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.37,0:03:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's trying to figure out how to turn it on. Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.14,0:04:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father's warning her to \Nhold on to the handlebars. Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.66,0:04:09.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it started up. Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.43,0:04:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now she wants to turn it off. Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.95,0:04:21.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she's wondering how \Nto turn it off. Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.80,0:04:30.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's being unplugged. Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.48,0:04:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my grandmother's house. We're rounding the corner. Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.87,0:04:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She lives about ten-minutre ride in small town \Ncalled Sulphur, Louisiana. Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.09,0:04:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There she is. Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.05,0:04:52.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She looks quite pale to me, and \NI was very surprised Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.02,0:04:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that she was so pale. Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.05,0:04:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's asking me, what am I doing? Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.100,0:05:00.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ creaking ] Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.68,0:05:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ LYNDA BENGLIS ] I really had a very rich childhood I think\Nand also traveled to Greece very early on Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.32,0:05:09.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with my grandmother. Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.96,0:05:12.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Traveled the islands and\Ninto the mountains. Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.94,0:05:15.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Ahh! Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.33,0:05:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well, my bros live out there man. Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.52,0:05:19.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ LYNDA BENGLIS ] \NIt’s pretty classic, Greece. Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.16,0:05:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They say, even on this island that\Nthere were the beginnings of man, Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.32,0:05:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,woman, just really early,\Nearly civilization. Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.04,0:05:31.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh, well what do you do on a weekend? Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.54,0:05:35.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Nah, man, we go looking for a \Nfew fights, you know. Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.24,0:05:40.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ LYNDA BENGLIS ] \NI was born in Lake Charles, Louisiana. Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.72,0:05:44.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really liked the carnival on\NLake Pontchartrain Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.48,0:05:45.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the funhouse. Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.74,0:05:47.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That girl is so big and so fat, Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.43,0:05:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it takes four men to hug her \Nand a boxcar to lug her. Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.00,0:05:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ LYNDA BENGLIS ] Images jumping out the\Nphosphorescent quality of the images. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.04,0:05:59.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They seemed very real\Nto me at the time. Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.38,0:06:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- This image here. \N- This image here? Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.58,0:06:03.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Good.\N- Which image? Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.58,0:06:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Okay, let's start recording now. Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.00,0:06:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- This image here.\N- Start recording now. Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.60,0:06:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We are recording. \N- We are recording. Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.22,0:06:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Start recording, I said. Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.62,0:06:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, I said start recording now. Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.87,0:06:18.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- This is a tape I made. \N- This is a tape he made of a tape she made Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.55,0:06:20.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a tape he made in her studio\N- In my studio. Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.59,0:06:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- This is a tape he made Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.48,0:06:26.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ LYNDA BENGLIS ] Louisiana had a whole\Narea of waterways Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.92,0:06:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that led to a big lake\Nthat then led to the Gulf. Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.24,0:06:33.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there were all kinds of channels\Nand I knew them, Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.08,0:06:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,riding around in a little motorcar. Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.40,0:06:38.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Being right there on the water. Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.84,0:06:39.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had horses. Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.18,0:06:42.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- This tape on screen is raw material. Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.32,0:06:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rephotographing his tape made it her work. Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.45,0:06:50.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or commenting on it made it her work. Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.27,0:06:51.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or both. Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.87,0:06:53.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She is heard but never seen. Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.47,0:06:57.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing here has been rephotographed. Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.34,0:06:58.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ horn honks ] Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.45,0:07:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ LYNDA BENGLIS ] It started by an invitation\Nfrom Anand. Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.04,0:07:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anand Sarabhai would like for you\Nto come to India and Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.60,0:07:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rauschenberg and Robert Morris\Nare introducing me to you. Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.65,0:07:17.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I visited India the last 35 years. Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.72,0:07:21.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After about ten years\NAnand said to me, Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.00,0:07:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Lynda, I have a well here and\NI want to cover it." Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.16,0:07:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Well I’d like to make a fountain." Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.08,0:07:30.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "No I don’t want a fountain," that’s.... Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.80,0:07:33.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "I want a sculpture\Nto cover the well." Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.00,0:07:38.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made a 15-foot trapezoid wall. Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.32,0:07:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I began drawing on this wall. Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.28,0:07:47.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought I could draw an elephant\Nwhen I was two or three years old. Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.44,0:07:52.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I began drawing an elephant,\Nnever having carved a piece of this scale. Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.88,0:07:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grew up in a brick home,\Nrecycled brick. Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.64,0:08:03.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when I visited here,\Nthis kind of reminded me of Louisiana. Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.16,0:08:06.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a semi-tropical place there. Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.12,0:08:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So brick is very familiar to me. Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.08,0:08:13.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This particular brick is soft\Nso it was easily carvable. Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.72,0:08:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It ended up at one end being\Nvery vase-like and at the other end, Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.16,0:08:22.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being kind of elephantine. Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.94,0:08:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I finished,\Nrather than a fountain, Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.00,0:08:30.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a planter for a palm tree.\NSo I planted a palm tree. Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.28,0:08:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was another image that\NI also created after that, Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.08,0:08:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a two-headed snake. Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.82,0:08:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I thought of it as kind of inside-out.\N Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.96,0:08:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People began to come there and worship. Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.96,0:08:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Snakes can take on other forms. Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.60,0:08:56.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A snake could be a knot and\Na knot could be the beginning of a life. Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.88,0:09:00.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a way of arriving at\Nsomething else other than Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.28,0:09:04.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a wall around a tree,\Nor out into space. Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.16,0:09:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A knot is sometime an implosion\N Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.04,0:09:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but a knot could also be\Nan explosion of energy. Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.40,0:09:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have done both with\Nthe idea of that form. Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.28,0:09:21.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s embryonic, it grows,\Nit comes about, it extends its arms, legs. Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.04,0:09:25.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The floral aspect has occurred. Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.20,0:09:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was showing these\Nwrapped pieces of gauze. Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.72,0:09:44.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was beginning to think of\Nthe gauze as being the skin Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.68,0:09:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the canvas wrapped in\Nthe structure of the wire. Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.96,0:09:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And someone said,\Nthey were like Kotexes. Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.92,0:09:54.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was insulted but I\Nrealize they were right. Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.20,0:09:56.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were long and tall. Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.52,0:09:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for me they were\Nkind of ghost images Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.20,0:10:01.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and took the place of the\Ncanvas and the paint. Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.64,0:10:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I started\Ntying them in simple knots. Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.84,0:10:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was thinking of\Norganic cubism Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.84,0:10:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I wanted to create a space. Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.56,0:10:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then Stella saw\Nthe "Sparkle Knots," Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.80,0:10:16.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was on the panel,\Nand I got a Guggenheim for these. Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.84,0:10:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was at the Acropolis\Nas a very little girl I remember Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.64,0:10:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being totally caught up\Nwith the caryatids Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.80,0:10:48.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they were female. Dialogue: 0,0:10:48.68,0:10:50.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had an ice-like quality. Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.84,0:10:55.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I discovered the\Npolyurethane plastic that Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.88,0:10:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looked as glass, Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.04,0:11:01.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was very pleased that people\Nthought it was glass. Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.80,0:11:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I had an illusion of ice,\Nof frozen water Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.00,0:11:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I wanted these\N"Graces" to be a fountain. Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.83,0:11:21.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We are here to take this lovely girl. Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.07,0:11:22.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Watch what she does. Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.66,0:11:24.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Into the box, sweetheart. Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.26,0:11:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know where your head belongs? Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.16,0:11:27.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This way. Look at that. Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.85,0:11:29.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her head is here, Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.12,0:11:32.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her feet are here. Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.15,0:11:33.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ladies and gentlemen, Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.38,0:11:37.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,noticing that there is not very much room \Nfor the little girl to be in there. Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.83,0:11:39.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Watch what we're doing. Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.03,0:11:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Close the little box like so. Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.07,0:11:43.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We take a solid blade. Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.93,0:11:46.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We cut right down between the gazippy and the gazoppy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.67,0:11:48.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or we could do the other end. Doesn't matter. Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.29,0:11:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now, the other end. The gazippy and the gazoppy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.83,0:11:52.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we take another blade, Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.42,0:11:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we go between the flippy and the floppy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.06,0:11:56.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ chuckles ] You got to know where \Nthe flippy is and the floppy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.29,0:11:58.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right down there, we cut \Noff her gazoopakyper. Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.78,0:12:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ mysterious electronic music ] Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.24,0:12:57.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ ANNOUNCER ] To learn more about \N"Art in the Twenty-First Century" Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.59,0:12:59.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and its educational resources, Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.59,0:13:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please visit us online at: \NPBS.org/Art21 Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.78,0:13:11.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Art in the Twenty-First Century” is available on DVD. Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.66,0:13:14.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The companion book is also available. Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.27,0:13:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To order, visit us online at: shopPBS.org Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.05,0:13:23.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or call PBS Home Video at: \N1-800-PLAY-PBS