0:00:20.120,0:00:28.400 [ LYNDA BENGLIS ] I was asked in the early ‘70s[br]to do installations all over the country. And... 0:00:28.400,0:00:35.480 For the price of the materials and my ticket[br]I went to these different places 0:00:35.480,0:00:37.872 and did an artwork. 0:00:38.267,0:00:41.614 [ rapid jazz music ] 0:00:46.200,0:00:49.920 They were like statements[br]of the reality that you’d feel 0:00:49.920,0:00:53.599 in the conversations that artists[br]have with each other 0:00:53.599,0:00:55.822 and with the world[br]and with their times. 0:00:59.240,0:01:05.000 One thing that these works clearly do[br]is state that the process, 0:01:05.000,0:01:08.320 the drawing, texture[br]equal form. 0:01:08.320,0:01:11.600 And it’s about drawing[br]and these ideas have 0:01:11.600,0:01:16.160 come from really painting ideas,[br]yet they’re dimensional. 0:01:16.160,0:01:19.961 This is one thing I’ve always been[br]interested in exploring. 0:01:26.720,0:01:29.840 "Eat Meat" is a sand-cast bronze. 0:01:30.480,0:01:34.400 It has a lovely patina from[br]being out in the elements 0:01:34.400,0:01:36.755 over 30-40 years. 0:01:51.360,0:01:56.013 I think of myself as a painter,[br]probably because I don’t use glue. 0:01:57.360,0:01:59.920 I found my space[br]so to speak 0:01:59.920,0:02:06.240 because I was particularly interested[br]in painterly materials and also form 0:02:06.240,0:02:11.035 and space and where[br]the gesture could take the material. 0:02:12.040,0:02:15.575 All of them are drawn with[br]either a bucket or a can. 0:02:16.640,0:02:19.440 The use of the body,[br]the use of the hand, 0:02:19.440,0:02:22.400 the use of the movement[br]of the body. 0:02:22.400,0:02:24.480 Dancing and rhythm, 0:02:24.480,0:02:28.316 I was just very interested in[br]that kind of bodily gesture. 0:02:28.939,0:02:31.230 - Take it down, Bill. Quick! 0:02:38.360,0:02:40.000 They’re all polyurethane. 0:02:40.000,0:02:43.589 The same polyurethane[br]that’s used in installation. 0:02:49.640,0:02:52.292 I made a couple of pieces[br]of phosphorescence. 0:02:53.920,0:02:56.920 I had to light them and they[br]absorbed the light and 0:02:56.920,0:02:59.299 then the lights were[br]turned off on a timer. 0:02:59.560,0:03:00.520 And what happened, 0:03:00.520,0:03:03.560 because of the flows in the[br]pours and the gravity, 0:03:03.560,0:03:06.720 what you would see is them[br]coming down and rising again 0:03:06.720,0:03:07.890 at the same time. 0:03:09.880,0:03:13.160 I’m very interested in[br]how things change through 0:03:13.160,0:03:16.720 our reading of the gravity[br]and the form. 0:03:16.720,0:03:20.416 If a waterfall freezes,[br]how do you really read it? 0:03:21.120,0:03:24.594 You can read it going up or down[br]and how do you read it? 0:03:32.737,0:03:35.552 [ static buzzing ] 0:03:35.552,0:03:37.552 - This is my sister Jane. 0:03:37.552,0:03:39.319 She's getting on the... 0:03:42.892,0:03:44.116 motorbike. 0:03:45.175,0:03:46.654 Still motorbike. 0:03:48.939,0:03:50.315 Weight-reducing bike. 0:03:50.876,0:03:53.721 The camera had to be turned sideways so I could get Jane in. 0:03:55.632,0:03:57.370 She was riding the bike. 0:03:57.370,0:03:59.620 She's trying to figure out how to turn it on. 0:04:01.136,0:04:05.000 My father's warning her to [br]hold on to the handlebars. 0:04:08.656,0:04:09.988 And it started up. 0:04:14.434,0:04:16.083 Now she wants to turn it off. 0:04:17.953,0:04:21.035 And she's wondering how [br]to turn it off. 0:04:29.801,0:04:30.866 It's being unplugged. 0:04:36.475,0:04:39.874 This is my grandmother's house. We're rounding the corner. 0:04:39.874,0:04:45.655 She lives about ten-minutre ride in small town [br]called Sulphur, Louisiana. 0:04:47.088,0:04:48.755 There she is. 0:04:49.046,0:04:52.292 She looks quite pale to me, and [br]I was very surprised 0:04:53.019,0:04:55.656 that she was so pale. 0:04:56.051,0:04:57.938 She's asking me, what am I doing? 0:04:58.997,0:05:00.997 [ creaking ] 0:05:02.680,0:05:08.320 [ LYNDA BENGLIS ] I really had a very rich childhood I think[br]and also traveled to Greece very early on 0:05:08.320,0:05:09.960 with my grandmother. 0:05:09.960,0:05:12.936 Traveled the islands and[br]into the mountains. 0:05:12.936,0:05:15.334 - Ahh! 0:05:15.334,0:05:17.520 - Well, my bros live out there man. 0:05:17.520,0:05:19.416 [ LYNDA BENGLIS ] [br]It’s pretty classic, Greece. 0:05:20.160,0:05:25.320 They say, even on this island that[br]there were the beginnings of man, 0:05:25.320,0:05:29.038 woman, just really early,[br]early civilization. 0:05:29.038,0:05:31.538 - Oh, well what do you do on a weekend? 0:05:31.538,0:05:35.889 - Nah, man, we go looking for a [br]few fights, you know. 0:05:37.240,0:05:40.534 [ LYNDA BENGLIS ] [br]I was born in Lake Charles, Louisiana. 0:05:41.720,0:05:44.480 I really liked the carnival on[br]Lake Pontchartrain 0:05:44.480,0:05:45.736 and the funhouse. 0:05:45.736,0:05:47.426 - That girl is so big and so fat, 0:05:47.426,0:05:51.271 it takes four men to hug her [br]and a boxcar to lug her. 0:05:52.000,0:05:57.040 [ LYNDA BENGLIS ] Images jumping out the[br]phosphorescent quality of the images. 0:05:57.040,0:05:59.376 They seemed very real[br]to me at the time. 0:05:59.376,0:06:01.584 - This image here. [br]- This image here? 0:06:01.584,0:06:03.584 - Good.[br]- Which image? 0:06:03.584,0:06:05.000 - Okay, let's start recording now. 0:06:05.000,0:06:06.600 - This image here.[br]- Start recording now. 0:06:06.600,0:06:08.533 - We are recording. [br]- We are recording. 0:06:09.219,0:06:10.622 - Start recording, I said. 0:06:10.622,0:06:12.622 No, I said start recording now. 0:06:14.866,0:06:18.548 - This is a tape I made. [br]- This is a tape he made of a tape she made 0:06:18.548,0:06:20.548 of a tape he made in her studio[br]- In my studio. 0:06:21.587,0:06:23.256 - This is a tape he made 0:06:23.480,0:06:26.920 [ LYNDA BENGLIS ] Louisiana had a whole[br]area of waterways 0:06:26.920,0:06:30.240 that led to a big lake[br]that then led to the Gulf. 0:06:30.240,0:06:33.052 So there were all kinds of channels[br]and I knew them, 0:06:34.080,0:06:36.400 riding around in a little motorcar. 0:06:36.400,0:06:38.040 Being right there on the water. 0:06:38.840,0:06:39.720 I had horses. 0:06:40.177,0:06:42.693 - This tape on screen is raw material. 0:06:43.325,0:06:46.699 Rephotographing his tape made it her work. 0:06:47.447,0:06:50.268 Or commenting on it made it her work. 0:06:50.268,0:06:51.458 Or both. 0:06:51.873,0:06:53.600 She is heard but never seen. 0:06:54.473,0:06:57.050 Nothing here has been rephotographed. 0:06:57.341,0:06:58.446 [ horn honks ] 0:06:58.446,0:07:02.040 [ LYNDA BENGLIS ] It started by an invitation[br]from Anand. 0:07:02.040,0:07:06.600 Anand Sarabhai would like for you[br]to come to India and 0:07:06.600,0:07:11.012 Rauschenberg and Robert Morris[br]are introducing me to you. 0:07:13.649,0:07:17.720 I visited India the last 35 years. 0:07:17.720,0:07:21.730 After about ten years[br]Anand said to me, 0:07:22.000,0:07:26.160 "Lynda, I have a well here and[br]I want to cover it." 0:07:26.160,0:07:28.080 I said, "Well I’d like to make a fountain." 0:07:28.080,0:07:30.433 He said, "No I don’t want a fountain," that’s.... 0:07:30.800,0:07:33.634 He said, "I want a sculpture[br]to cover the well." 0:07:35.000,0:07:38.577 I made a 15-foot trapezoid wall. 0:07:40.320,0:07:43.280 I began drawing on this wall. 0:07:43.280,0:07:47.440 I thought I could draw an elephant[br]when I was two or three years old. 0:07:47.440,0:07:52.511 So I began drawing an elephant,[br]never having carved a piece of this scale. 0:07:54.880,0:07:58.640 I grew up in a brick home,[br]recycled brick. 0:07:58.640,0:08:03.160 So when I visited here,[br]this kind of reminded me of Louisiana. 0:08:03.160,0:08:06.623 We have a semi-tropical place there. 0:08:08.120,0:08:10.080 So brick is very familiar to me. 0:08:10.080,0:08:13.753 This particular brick is soft[br]so it was easily carvable. 0:08:15.720,0:08:20.160 It ended up at one end being[br]very vase-like and at the other end, 0:08:20.160,0:08:22.334 being kind of elephantine. 0:08:22.937,0:08:26.000 When I finished,[br]rather than a fountain, 0:08:26.000,0:08:30.447 I had a planter for a palm tree.[br]So I planted a palm tree. 0:08:36.280,0:08:40.080 There was another image that[br]I also created after that, 0:08:40.080,0:08:41.819 a two-headed snake. 0:08:41.819,0:08:44.960 And I thought of it as kind of inside-out.[br] 0:08:44.960,0:08:47.424 People began to come there and worship. 0:08:47.960,0:08:50.600 Snakes can take on other forms. 0:08:50.600,0:08:56.366 A snake could be a knot and[br]a knot could be the beginning of a life. 0:08:56.880,0:09:00.280 It was a way of arriving at[br]something else other than 0:09:00.280,0:09:04.009 a wall around a tree,[br]or out into space. 0:09:07.160,0:09:09.040 A knot is sometime an implosion[br] 0:09:09.040,0:09:12.663 but a knot could also be[br]an explosion of energy. 0:09:13.400,0:09:16.280 I have done both with[br]the idea of that form. 0:09:16.280,0:09:21.856 It’s embryonic, it grows,[br]it comes about, it extends its arms, legs. 0:09:23.040,0:09:25.611 The floral aspect has occurred. 0:09:37.200,0:09:40.720 I was showing these[br]wrapped pieces of gauze. 0:09:40.720,0:09:44.680 I was beginning to think of[br]the gauze as being the skin 0:09:44.680,0:09:47.960 and the canvas wrapped in[br]the structure of the wire. 0:09:47.960,0:09:50.920 And someone said,[br]they were like Kotexes. 0:09:50.920,0:09:54.418 And I was insulted but I[br]realize they were right. 0:09:55.200,0:09:56.520 They were long and tall. 0:09:56.520,0:09:59.200 And for me they were[br]kind of ghost images 0:09:59.200,0:10:01.640 and took the place of the[br]canvas and the paint. 0:10:01.640,0:10:05.000 And then I started[br]tying them in simple knots. 0:10:05.840,0:10:07.840 I was thinking of[br]organic cubism 0:10:07.840,0:10:10.560 and I wanted to create a space. 0:10:10.560,0:10:12.800 And then Stella saw[br]the "Sparkle Knots," 0:10:12.800,0:10:16.414 he was on the panel,[br]and I got a Guggenheim for these. 0:10:38.840,0:10:43.104 When I was at the Acropolis[br]as a very little girl I remember 0:10:43.640,0:10:46.800 being totally caught up[br]with the caryatids 0:10:46.800,0:10:48.680 because they were female. 0:10:48.680,0:10:50.784 They had an ice-like quality. 0:10:52.840,0:10:55.880 When I discovered the[br]polyurethane plastic that 0:10:55.880,0:10:58.040 looked as glass, 0:10:58.040,0:11:01.800 I was very pleased that people[br]thought it was glass. 0:11:01.800,0:11:06.000 And I had an illusion of ice,[br]of frozen water 0:11:06.000,0:11:10.000 and I wanted these[br]"Graces" to be a fountain. 0:11:17.832,0:11:21.074 - We are here to take this lovely girl. 0:11:21.074,0:11:22.659 Watch what she does. 0:11:22.659,0:11:24.260 Into the box, sweetheart. 0:11:24.260,0:11:25.865 You know where your head belongs? 0:11:26.156,0:11:27.849 This way. Look at that. 0:11:27.849,0:11:29.859 Her head is here, 0:11:31.125,0:11:32.154 her feet are here. 0:11:32.154,0:11:33.381 Ladies and gentlemen, 0:11:33.381,0:11:37.827 noticing that there is not very much room [br]for the little girl to be in there. 0:11:37.827,0:11:39.033 Watch what we're doing. 0:11:39.033,0:11:41.552 Close the little box like so. 0:11:42.071,0:11:43.926 We take a solid blade. 0:11:43.926,0:11:46.669 We cut right down between the gazippy and the gazoppy. 0:11:46.669,0:11:48.291 Or we could do the other end. Doesn't matter. 0:11:48.291,0:11:50.831 And now, the other end. The gazippy and the gazoppy. 0:11:50.831,0:11:52.418 Then we take another blade, 0:11:52.418,0:11:54.060 and we go between the flippy and the floppy. 0:11:54.060,0:11:56.291 [ chuckles ] You got to know where [br]the flippy is and the floppy. 0:11:56.291,0:11:58.827 Right down there, we cut [br]off her gazoopakyper. 0:11:59.783,0:12:03.277 [ mysterious electronic music ] 0:12:54.239,0:12:57.589 [ ANNOUNCER ] To learn more about [br]"Art in the Twenty-First Century" 0:12:57.589,0:12:59.589 and its educational resources, 0:12:59.589,0:13:04.140 please visit us online at: [br]PBS.org/Art21 0:13:07.775,0:13:11.265 “Art in the Twenty-First Century” is available on DVD. 0:13:11.659,0:13:14.267 The companion book is also available. 0:13:14.267,0:13:18.053 To order, visit us online at: shopPBS.org 0:13:18.053,0:13:23.248 or call PBS Home Video at: [br]1-800-PLAY-PBS