WEBVTT 00:00:13.417 --> 00:00:18.967 Welcome in the next episode on our channel Mind Wars, fight for the mind. 00:00:19.955 --> 00:00:23.285 With us today we have Urszula. 00:00:23.773 --> 00:00:25.133 Good morning 00:00:25.905 --> 00:00:40.135 Urszula will tell you and us about how it all started with her. 00:00:40.225 --> 00:00:43.535 The gangstalking in a broad sense. 00:00:43.685 --> 00:00:48.975 It is happening not in Poland. 00:00:49.033 --> 00:00:59.063 I think it will be an interesting story, it will have much in common with TIs who live in Poland. 00:00:59.462 --> 00:01:00.962 Welcome, Urszula. 00:01:01.572 --> 00:01:02.352 Welcome 00:01:02.432 --> 00:01:04.842 Tell us what was the beginning of it. 00:01:04.958 --> 00:01:11.218 What was the beginning of it? It started almost 20 years ago in Barcelona, 00:01:11.301 --> 00:01:22.531 when I was on a train going to work, I saw a man who was looking at me strangely. 00:01:23.704 --> 00:01:32.504 After some 5 or 6 minutes his eyes were protruding from the sockets, 00:01:32.611 --> 00:01:41.321 they got enlarged and the eyes changed the color from grey to blue. 00:01:41.387 --> 00:01:42.707 And you noticed that. 00:01:42.767 --> 00:01:45.457 Yes, it was hard not to notice. 00:01:46.543 --> 00:01:52.843 His hair changed from dark to a much brighter color and it became longer. 00:01:53.262 --> 00:01:54.622 What do you mean, did it grew? 00:01:54.702 --> 00:01:57.102 It was as if it grew. 00:01:57.292 --> 00:01:57.872 OK. 00:02:00.642 --> 00:02:08.602 After 10 minutes. At that time I didn’t know what it was all about, who that person was. 00:02:08.632 --> 00:02:12.892 I just saw that he changed. 00:02:15.962 --> 00:02:26.452 When I was stepping out of the train onto the platform I heard sounds out of nowhere, the sub-voices that’s how I call them. 00:02:27.371 --> 00:02:33.751 They announced to me that he was a chief of the international police, Ramon. 00:02:33.771 --> 00:02:35.411 That was his surname? 00:02:35.426 --> 00:02:38.996 Ramon Lopez. Ramon was his name. 00:02:41.672 --> 00:02:46.922 That “if you want you can spend the holidays with him”. 00:02:46.971 --> 00:02:54.121 That was the end of July of 1998. 00:02:57.051 --> 00:03:04.791 I got out and went to work, I came back to my flat after 3 hours, 00:03:05.193 --> 00:03:11.953 I turned on the radio and I heard (with some music in the background) words: 00:03:12.021 --> 00:03:18.931 “you are the girl that he had been looking for for years - from the prophecy.” 00:03:21.503 --> 00:03:29.343 I recalled at that moment that I had read about something similar in a Polish newspaper. 00:03:29.432 --> 00:03:33.432 I suppose it was a cracovian newspaper – I don’t remember precisely. 00:03:33.432 --> 00:03:40.952 I read an article about the chief of international police who gave an order 00:03:41.003 --> 00:03:47.113 to all police staff in the whole world to find the girl from his prophecy. 00:03:48.512 --> 00:03:57.402 If I remember well, the article dated from around 1990-1991. 00:03:59.424 --> 00:04:07.544 What was next? Then he played to me songs on the radio they were about love. 00:04:08.821 --> 00:04:14.861 That he fell in love with me. It was a bit funny, but It was pleasant to listen to. 00:04:14.904 --> 00:04:25.974 Beautiful songs about love, songs in Spanish, although there was a song in Polish as well, 00:04:26.057 --> 00:04:29.617 it had mixed Polish and Spanish lyrics. 00:04:31.290 --> 00:04:44.370 What happened next? After some half a year, when I was on my way to work I felt somebody’s eyes on me. 00:04:44.430 --> 00:04:49.299 I thought it was the chief, Ramon Lopez. 00:04:50.148 --> 00:04:54.148 Nevertheless, I did not look at him, I recognized the way he walked. 00:04:56.900 --> 00:05:06.020 What can I say? I walked by him, like we passed by one another. 00:05:06.186 --> 00:05:07.816 I did not look up. 00:05:09.117 --> 00:05:13.117 After some hours I came back to my place. 00:05:13.161 --> 00:05:17.951 I heard a voice in Polish from the walls. 00:05:17.990 --> 00:05:22.550 All these added voices are in Polish. 00:05:22.622 --> 00:05:32.642 I heard: “you will have to wait and we are to make your life pleasant” 00:05:33.330 --> 00:05:37.550 I did not know what it was all about, in what way they would make my life more pleasant. 00:05:37.550 --> 00:05:38.040 You know. 00:05:38.106 --> 00:05:38.706 I know. 00:05:40.055 --> 00:05:44.055 It’s how it started. Since then, he started to abuse me. 00:05:44.117 --> 00:05:46.687 In what way did he abuse you? 00:05:48.709 --> 00:05:55.879 Well it started… among others… my.. 00:05:56.104 --> 00:06:01.574 Let’s put it differently, was it a physical maltreatment or a mental abuse? 00:06:01.651 --> 00:06:04.351 No, it was physical and mental as well. 00:06:04.391 --> 00:06:05.441 But was it physical? 00:06:05.465 --> 00:06:06.865 But it was most of all physical. 00:06:06.884 --> 00:06:08.814 What did physical abuse consisted in? 00:06:08.854 --> 00:06:11.934 My bed become my torture place. 00:06:12.086 --> 00:06:13.086 In what way? 00:06:13.131 --> 00:06:20.081 Terrible pain, through remotely controlled electronic devices. 00:06:21.167 --> 00:06:25.167 Terrible pain. My spine was twisted. 00:06:26.433 --> 00:06:31.783 So an electromagnetic weapon, electromagnetic waves of extremely low frequency were directed at you? 00:06:31.873 --> 00:06:39.923 yes, yes. My spine was twisted an compressed. 00:06:39.970 --> 00:06:47.410 My cranial base was manipulated. I am disfigured, my cranial bones are misshaped. 00:06:47.425 --> 00:06:53.725 It took 5 years, I was so maltreated, tortured mainly in my bed 00:06:53.735 --> 00:06:57.735 or I was intoxicated with gases in the streets, at home. 00:06:58.110 --> 00:07:03.430 The gases were of biological and chemical origin. 00:07:04.638 --> 00:07:08.638 Oxides and various, various smells. 00:07:09.908 --> 00:07:12.068 And mental abuse? 00:07:12.158 --> 00:07:18.718 And mental abuse? Well, perhaps something like maybe laughing at me? 00:07:18.738 --> 00:07:20.898 that for example at that moment I felt pain? 00:07:20.939 --> 00:07:32.589 Did you feel that some strangers were trying to have a conversation about you? 00:07:32.669 --> 00:07:35.936 Exchange opinions apparently among themselves but it was to you? 00:07:35.936 --> 00:07:39.936 Well, maybe laughing at me but I didn’t care about it. 00:07:40.007 --> 00:07:47.767 When I was very tired after such a night, which lasted 5 years, so to say. 00:07:47.822 --> 00:08:00.342 I was not aware what was going on when I got up at night to go to toilet I had to walk along the walls to support myself. 00:08:00.358 --> 00:08:07.738 I would lose consciousness in pain. I went through terrible things. Terrible. 00:08:07.763 --> 00:08:14.153 My cranial bones, my cheeks, were crashed. 00:08:14.266 --> 00:08:23.746 I think it was 5 mm but the sub-voices tell me it went up to 7 mm. 00:08:23.818 --> 00:08:26.788 Sub-voices? What are they? 00:08:26.812 --> 00:08:30.122 The sub-voices that have accompanied me for the last 20 years. 00:08:30.198 --> 00:08:35.958 OK, I see, voice-to-skull. So you have voices in your head the most extreme form of torture. 00:08:36.019 --> 00:08:42.089 I don’t know if it is voice in my head. In my opinion, they are voices from outside. 00:08:42.108 --> 00:08:48.548 I don’t have it in my ears, I don’t have them in my head. 00:08:48.578 --> 00:09:00.518 Perhaps I have – I don’t know – an electrode in my brain and the voices are dispersed and I hear them even from the streets. 00:09:00.637 --> 00:09:04.727 OK, I see. It is a standard procedure. And what about synthetic thoughts? 00:09:04.727 --> 00:09:06.809 And what about synthetic thoughts? 00:09:06.809 --> 00:09:10.149 The thoughts that are not yours? Are you forced? 00:09:10.172 --> 00:09:11.822 Oh, sure. Absolutely. 00:09:11.903 --> 00:09:15.903 But I just don’t care about it at all because I am aware that they 00:09:15.903 --> 00:09:21.623 I don’t know how to say this - are imposing them into me. 00:09:23.595 --> 00:09:32.035 Anyway… they present me with words or even films. 00:09:32.097 --> 00:09:36.097 That’s clear. So there are visual elements that appear. 00:09:36.156 --> 00:09:40.156 And the dreams. Horrific dreams. Tortures. 00:09:40.189 --> 00:09:47.329 Many times it was such a torment that I thought in the mornings I would break down. 00:09:47.369 --> 00:09:54.259 I just can tell you that I remembered some 5-10 minutes then I would forget. 00:09:54.349 --> 00:09:58.347 Perhaps it was because that I was tortured in a different way. 00:09:59.281 --> 00:10:00.321 What way? 00:10:00.656 --> 00:10:04.656 I was poisoned with gases among others. I couldn’t breathe. 00:10:05.656 --> 00:10:09.246 And on the top of that, the oxygen was taken away from me. 00:10:09.253 --> 00:10:10.133 Sure. 00:10:10.133 --> 00:10:21.003 It was cruel. At my work chemical gases were infused and oxygen was taken away from me. 00:10:21.028 --> 00:10:22.788 You can feel that. 00:10:22.824 --> 00:10:33.434 If it was only the gases, you can survive but I couldn’t make it, I lost consciousness, I fainted 00:10:33.438 --> 00:10:40.738 , the oxygen was taken away from me and chemical gases were pushed in. 00:10:43.551 --> 00:10:50.741 What can I say? I am being tortured, I’m a martyr. 00:10:51.574 --> 00:10:55.014 I looked for help, I wrote to various places. 00:10:55.014 --> 00:10:59.344 In Poland: Nowy Sącz, Warsaw, Barcelona, Madrid, Geneva.. 00:11:00.907 --> 00:11:01.907 Was there any reaction? 00:11:02.231 --> 00:11:05.461 ...to the Pope. I also wrote a letter to Pope. 00:11:06.230 --> 00:11:06.970 None. 00:11:07.831 --> 00:11:10.861 Apart from Warsaw. 00:11:11.941 --> 00:11:27.581 They issued a letter to a District Court in Cracow and from Cracow, it was sent to a District Court in Nowy Sącz. 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:35.019 What kind of letter was it? Was it a complaint? 00:11:35.050 --> 00:11:39.050 Yes, it was a complaint. That they were not helping me in Nowy Sącz. 00:11:40.677 --> 00:11:46.047 So I wrote this to Warsaw. It was in 2010. 00:11:46.999 --> 00:11:56.819 As I told you, they sent my letter to the District Court in Cracow and they forwarded it to Nowy Sącz. 00:11:56.907 --> 00:11:59.537 So I filed a complaint at court. 00:11:59.537 --> 00:12:08.027 But it was a one-hour case only and due to the lack of evidence the case was dismissed. 00:12:08.131 --> 00:12:13.051 I didn’t achieve more than that. It was just my sensations as it was explained to me. 00:12:14.139 --> 00:12:24.749 The judge told me that it was my subjective sensations that I suffer that I hear … 00:12:25.378 --> 00:12:26.748 Voices yes? 00:12:26.810 --> 00:12:32.730 I call them wiretapping. 00:12:34.878 --> 00:12:40.518 I also demanded dismantling of the whole network of wiretapping in Nowy Sącz 00:12:40.554 --> 00:12:45.684 and in Barcelona and of course I didn’t obtain any help. 00:12:45.695 --> 00:12:52.455 The wiretapping is still there just as they were 20 years ago when they were installed. 00:12:52.624 --> 00:12:56.624 I was unable to receive any help. 00:12:56.689 --> 00:13:00.689 Last year, I wrote to the Pope, he did not reply. 00:13:02.128 --> 00:13:06.128 I wrote again I wrote more or less the same. 00:13:06.237 --> 00:13:08.287 He didn’t reply either. 00:13:09.472 --> 00:13:21.932 I asked the Pope to intercede with the Interpol for me so that the tortures stopped. 00:13:23.098 --> 00:13:27.098 But unfortunately the Pope did not write back. 00:13:29.570 --> 00:13:32.090 What else could I do? 00:13:32.928 --> 00:13:41.108 And here in Poland where you are now, do you feel that you are being followed, persecuted, tortured? 00:13:41.179 --> 00:13:49.559 Of course! I have suffered from this for some 4-5 years. 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:59.090 They torture me with cold, they cool me to the point that I lose consciousness. 00:14:00.429 --> 00:14:05.969 At the high temperature of even up to 30 Celsius degrees, 00:14:06.045 --> 00:14:12.075 on the beach in Barcelona I was close to frozen. 00:14:12.127 --> 00:14:16.127 I did not freeze but it was close. 00:14:17.899 --> 00:14:23.279 At all times I carried with me a pair of winter boots and a coat. 00:14:23.306 --> 00:14:27.306 Because I knew that they could do such a thing to me at any time. 00:14:27.336 --> 00:14:39.836 And although I put on the boots, the coat and a hat, I was freezing cold, , the temperature was 29 degrees. 00:14:39.884 --> 00:14:43.494 It was last summer. 00:14:48.305 --> 00:14:57.805 At that time I made an appointment to make a recording with Janusz from Wrocław. 00:14:57.856 --> 00:15:01.386 With Mr. Zagórski from NTV. 00:15:01.391 --> 00:15:14.461 Yes. We had an appointment twice. But unfortunately it did not work out. It was supposed to be via WhatApp'a. 00:15:14.596 --> 00:15:17.126 Via WhatApp. Yes 00:15:17.615 --> 00:15:23.605 Me in Barcelona, the editor in Wrocław in the studio with his colleague. 00:15:23.685 --> 00:15:27.665 That’s how he explained it to me that there will be two of them. 00:15:27.777 --> 00:15:31.427 That we will do the recording. Unfortunately, it didn’t work out. 00:15:31.463 --> 00:15:41.113 I called them exactly at the time the editor told me to call to start the interview. 00:15:41.612 --> 00:15:51.742 I called him after three days, I said: “has something happened, you didn’t answer the phone, we didn’t do the recording”. 00:15:51.742 --> 00:15:58.522 “Have you called at all?“ – he asked. “yes – I replied” - “I surely called at the exact time we had agreed”. 00:16:00.213 --> 00:16:12.113 “He said: Let’s agree on having a second try”. It was – I suppose – one week later. 00:16:12.235 --> 00:16:17.375 The same happened: I called them several times and there was no reply. 00:16:17.465 --> 00:16:22.985 I called after a few days and then I gave up calling. I didn’t know what it was all about. 00:16:24.432 --> 00:16:29.102 I aslo wrote to Zofia Filipiak, the President of StopZET. 00:16:30.204 --> 00:16:32.764 I sent her a letter from Barcelona. 00:16:32.838 --> 00:16:46.078 Zofia told me by phone, that she had received my tragic letter, in which I described all the terrible things that I went through all these years. 00:16:46.488 --> 00:16:54.158 And she was very sorry for me. She gave me the number of Sławek. 00:16:56.219 --> 00:17:00.859 Then I called Sławek and he referred me to you. 00:17:03.599 --> 00:17:17.949 Urszula, please tell us and our viewers what are the developments of this case with Interpol? 00:17:17.949 --> 00:17:23.589 I understand that you suspect that it’s the activity by Interpol. 00:17:23.742 --> 00:17:30.102 I am entirely convinced that it is by the order of the boss 00:17:30.145 --> 00:17:30.985 Mr. Lopez. 00:17:31.057 --> 00:17:34.607 He is a Cuban, Ramon, the commander. 00:17:34.651 --> 00:17:36.741 Is he still the boss of the Interpol? 00:17:36.775 --> 00:17:44.365 I don’t know, I was looking for that, I asked Sławek to help me find that on the internet. 00:17:44.413 --> 00:17:49.823 He didn’t succeed either. He didn’t find his surname or the name on the internet. 00:17:49.907 --> 00:17:53.567 How did you know the name of that man? 00:17:53.567 --> 00:18:01.997 They told me. They told me through the wiretapping, These criminals told me. 00:18:02.037 --> 00:18:06.677 Didn’t you take into account that they might have given you some false name? 00:18:06.684 --> 00:18:09.054 No, no. No, surely they didn’t. I know that. 00:18:09.066 --> 00:18:13.066 Since you couldn’t find it, Sławek was unable to find it either. 00:18:13.066 --> 00:18:15.946 I was looking for it on the internet for 15 years and I didn’t find any. 00:18:15.991 --> 00:18:21.591 Let me put it this way: the name the boss of the Interpol is not secret in any way.. 00:18:21.617 --> 00:18:30.117 But they don’t allow this. The authorities that are beyond all, will not allow such a thing, this perpetrator. 00:18:30.157 --> 00:18:34.134 The question is only whether it was not a nickname. 00:18:34.173 --> 00:18:41.773 No. Surely not, this is why not, I will make you realize this. I will convince you why I have such a strong conviction. 00:18:42.279 --> 00:19:01.099 I remembered that face as our pope went to Cuba. It was – say- 1997 – 1998 in May – I don’t remember. 00:19:01.123 --> 00:19:19.753 In any case I saw that face and I memorized it precisely. I remember that a reporter said that he was the boss of the international TV. 00:19:19.813 --> 00:19:21.853 The reporter of what? 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:30.960 of a Spanish TV. She covered the Pope John Paul II’s stay on Cuba. 00:19:31.821 --> 00:19:38.561 So, personally he isn’t anywhere in the Interpol. The name doesn’t appear anywhere. 00:19:38.614 --> 00:19:46.024 I couldn’t find anything. Nothing, completely zero. But I know he’s there. What is very important? 00:19:47.420 --> 00:19:57.870 I want to tell you that when I realized after several years that he was simply disfigurating me. 00:19:57.900 --> 00:20:05.450 I didn’t know what is was. Was he torturing me? 00:20:05.499 --> 00:20:14.379 I didn’t know what it meant, why he was doing this. Only when I realized that he disfigured me. 00:20:14.435 --> 00:20:20.185 I noticed that my face is different after some time. 00:20:20.252 --> 00:20:28.092 My face shape and appearance are changed, not entirely, but they are changed. 00:20:28.138 --> 00:20:39.038 My skull is flattened here by this twisting of the base of the skull in terrible pain. 00:20:39.138 --> 00:20:57.480 When I realized that he was disfigurating me, after a couple of days I realized that I read in a Spanish newspaper it was in 1998, 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:09.480 that a woman from South America sued him on the same grounds as me. 00:21:11.209 --> 00:21:21.189 I remember now. It was a short article, an announcement rather. 00:21:21.219 --> 00:21:31.090 It was in the newspaper “Hola!” a magazine, not a newspaper. 00:21:32.099 --> 00:21:48.609 I said, I translated it in detail that he poisoned her with gas, with various chemical gases and used electricity on her. 00:21:50.280 --> 00:21:53.740 I read it. I remember I translated it using a dictionary. 00:21:53.740 --> 00:22:00.550 There was a photo where a woman was almost completely blurred. 00:22:00.628 --> 00:22:07.828 I didn’t know the word “disfigurada” – disfigurated. I needed a dictionary to translate. 00:22:07.956 --> 00:22:15.636 It was something interesting for me, what they wrote and this photo that was completely blurred. 00:22:17.889 --> 00:22:21.889 She sued him, but he did not plead guilty. 00:22:22.809 --> 00:22:33.959 These criminals from the sub-voice, the Interpol. I, obviously, say that they are a team, not the whole Interpol. 00:22:34.169 --> 00:22:49.069 The closest team of Ramon Lopez. They just gave me hints. 00:22:49.136 --> 00:22:55.666 When I recalled that I read this, they told me that she was from Argentina, this woman. 00:22:57.706 --> 00:23:06.246 I had some associations, it seemed to me she was from South America, the sub-voices said… 00:23:07.324 --> 00:23:13.204 Were these not synthetic thoughts that were placed in your thoughts so that you think this. 00:23:13.262 --> 00:23:21.272 No, no, no. If it something similar was the case they might have placed the newspaper. 00:23:21.282 --> 00:23:27.012 I considered this too. They might have given me the newspaper. 00:23:27.032 --> 00:23:32.542 It was in 1998, I guess the beginning. 00:23:32.603 --> 00:23:35.293 Now you live constantly in Spain? 00:23:35.336 --> 00:23:42.156 Yes, right now, it’s constantly. I have lived here long years but with pauses. 00:23:42.213 --> 00:23:48.043 I lived a long time in Nowy Sącz. I took care of my mother. 00:23:48.816 --> 00:23:52.816 I was in Barcelona, I came back, I went there, I came back. 00:23:52.914 --> 00:24:06.854 And all that time, except for the 2 years before, sorry, the 4 first years, when I came to Barcelona, to my uncle, my cousin, I was a very happy person. 00:24:06.923 --> 00:24:15.193 I liked the place very much, amazing, I fell in love with Barcelona: so beautiful, the sea, the atmosphere, the air. 00:24:15.253 --> 00:24:26.406 Nowy Sącz is for me … the climate is not good. When I left, I decided to just visit Nowy Sącz. And I was a very happy person. 00:24:26.555 --> 00:24:29.075 Have you got the Spanish citizenship? 00:24:29.147 --> 00:24:32.277 No, of course not. No, sure. I’m a Polish citizen of course. 00:24:32.309 --> 00:24:37.499 Obviously I’m a Pole. I live and work here. 00:24:39.329 --> 00:24:41.769 So you live and work in Spain, in Barcelona? 00:24:47.219 --> 00:25:10.399 Now the question is, Urszula, how possibly do these perpetrators – my private opinion and the opinion of many viewers 00:25:10.465 --> 00:25:20.605 is that in Poland operates a Military Information Services (WSI) unit that fortunately was dissolved, that I discussed in previous episodes, 00:25:20.634 --> 00:25:34.284 people who graduated from Soviet schools, the so called “red rabble”, who unfortunately put on Polish uniforms. 00:25:34.366 --> 00:25:39.686 the Mind Control technology is not a civil but a military. 00:25:43.228 --> 00:25:54.668 These unleashed dogs have taken over the technology and torture Polish people this way. There’s no doubt about it. 00:25:54.743 --> 00:26:06.253 Increasing number of people from the army is willing to talk to us, not in front of the cameras yet. 00:26:06.284 --> 00:26:25.994 Although we hear voices that it’s the people with connections to the Military Information Services (WSI) are responsible for tortures with directed energy weapon in Poland. 00:26:26.944 --> 00:26:37.914 This is the outline of the situation in our country. We don’t know the situation in Spain, we would like to ask you about it. 00:26:37.936 --> 00:26:45.376 I would like to clarify, I’m sure that this a group of Interpol people from Poland. 00:26:46.585 --> 00:26:58.085 They speak Polish all the times, these sub-voices are always in Polish. 00:26:58.352 --> 00:27:02.352 If you think in Spanish do they understand it? 00:27:02.373 --> 00:27:06.373 You know what, I rather think in Polish in my native language. 00:27:06.373 --> 00:27:13.943 I rather think in my language, so they don’t have a problem. 00:27:13.943 --> 00:27:23.503 And even if… they have devices that translate for them immediately. It is not a difficulty for them. 00:27:27.467 --> 00:27:32.727 For example, when I think something, they think with me, I think something, they add something. 00:27:32.754 --> 00:27:42.814 I continue to think they add again. So they think with me. 00:27:42.827 --> 00:27:52.577 It I will not say anything bad or harm anybody, but they are tiring me. 00:27:52.600 --> 00:28:01.170 Because they have me like daydreaming all the time so to say, it’s tiring, whatever I think. 00:28:01.265 --> 00:28:10.835 I have my own secrets just like anyone else. And here they make suggestions on absolutely everything. 00:28:10.913 --> 00:28:20.563 They know what I think, what’s the appearance of other people. For instance, a film on TV. 00:28:20.653 --> 00:28:31.984 For example people who have gestures similar to the ones of a friend of mind. 00:28:32.096 --> 00:28:47.286 They change faces on the TV, they edit things, they change mouths or change eyes, put them lower, do make up. 00:28:47.374 --> 00:28:57.174 Why would I need such a thing. I don’t even watch TV now, it’s bad, really bad. 00:28:57.671 --> 00:29:06.121 The wiretapping is active It lasts day and night. 00:29:06.139 --> 00:29:18.899 They have devices that produce sounds like machine engines, all engines, all machines. 00:29:18.900 --> 00:29:30.950 Not only cars, trains, all machines absolutely, household devices like washing machine, fridge, iron – everything, they can do everything, absolutely everything. 00:29:31.348 --> 00:29:40.648 Everything, everything. To some people it seems impossible like it did to my family. 00:29:41.053 --> 00:29:45.053 Urszula, what else would you like to say our viewers? 00:29:45.786 --> 00:29:56.496 I think that I am tortured and abused in a cruel way. I am being freezed with the gas freon. 00:29:57.207 --> 00:30:12.907 It is used in fridges. I just feel the freon, I have it placed under my nose, I can do nothing about it. 00:30:13.108 --> 00:30:17.108 They freeze me from the inside and from the outside. 00:30:18.075 --> 00:30:22.625 What else of importance? 00:30:24.457 --> 00:30:32.367 They heat me, they burn my body, literally, I become unconscious. 00:30:32.818 --> 00:30:48.768 It is a nightmare of my life, I am a living owen, for a couple of years, I really don’t know how I have survived. 00:30:48.785 --> 00:30:57.845 Maybe it’s because I’m not of an advanced age. If I waited some 10 more years, I surely wouldn’t make it. 00:30:59.288 --> 00:31:05.078 What’s the most important, they interfere with my internal organs too. 00:31:05.684 --> 00:31:16.684 They provoke various pains and inflammations. I also have my heart pulled. 00:31:16.684 --> 00:31:25.744 It’s a terrible pain when they do that it seems to me that I die, they I pass away. 00:31:25.756 --> 00:31:35.936 These are of course just my thought, I nearly faint. 00:31:36.767 --> 00:32:04.897 In these sub-voice, that come from the wiretapping, they can tell me that they pull my heart by three centimeters, they pulled it downwards and released. 00:32:04.957 --> 00:32:16.720 A horrible, horrible pain. It also happened on a train of the same connection that I had met this boss, that I saw him. 00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:26.220 A horrific feeling. You feel that your heart is beating, it’s not there, it’s not beating. 00:32:26.308 --> 00:32:33.718 I immediately feel the pression that decreases in my head, in my brain. 00:32:33.798 --> 00:32:36.307 They really do that. It’s not my sensation, suggestive feeling. 00:32:36.364 --> 00:32:40.764 I realize that and I believe you. 00:32:40.779 --> 00:32:50.279 Thank you, thank you very much. Thank you that you believe me. What else? Terrible things. 00:32:50.413 --> 00:32:58.593 They broke my toe, I was walking around like that I didn’t know that it was broken. 00:32:58.609 --> 00:33:08.329 I just thought that they maybe did something to fracture it. I hadn’t jumped from the stairs and so on. 00:33:08.381 --> 00:33:13.541 I hadn’t done anything that could have broken it. 00:33:13.542 --> 00:33:22.032 Only when I went to the doctor’s he told me that my toe was broken. 00:33:22.091 --> 00:33:31.101 I said that I hadn’t done anything that could break my toe. He showed me the x-ray photo. 00:33:31.681 --> 00:33:42.191 It was a dreadful pain. But I had my work, I had to go to work. I walk with it. 00:33:45.672 --> 00:33:57.772 What else, I walk with a burden as if I had butane cylinders. A nightmare. 00:33:57.892 --> 00:34:03.712 They also tell me in the sub-voices that they do the gravity. 00:34:03.763 --> 00:34:11.353 I also have my foot, my both feet actually, disfigured, particularly the right one. 00:34:11.676 --> 00:34:24.196 Due to the burdens, the horrific burdens. Or even when I shop - some bread for instance, some ham and juice to drink – not much. 00:34:24.220 --> 00:34:40.050 It’s as if I had these butane cylinders. That’s the weight according to me. And it’s on both hands. 00:34:40.080 --> 00:34:45.351 Or when I don’t even carry anything they do the same to me. The nightmare. The gravity or.. 00:34:45.364 --> 00:34:54.134 Once they did to me something following. I was in a hurry, going to my office to an important meeting and they stopped me. 00:34:54.241 --> 00:34:59.171 And I couldn’t move on. I didn’t move neither forwards nor backwards. 00:34:59.171 --> 00:35:09.721 I stood there on the side walk and people were watching although I didn’t watch them. 00:35:09.779 --> 00:35:13.779 I was in fear that I would be late for the meeting and generally 00:35:13.850 --> 00:35:16.750 how it was going to be like and if I would be able to move on. 00:35:16.795 --> 00:35:30.505 It’s all done with electricity, with electricity. Nightmare. 00:35:31.235 --> 00:35:36.745 Krzysztof, please, help me, let this see the light, so that this case can be disclosed. 00:35:36.833 --> 00:35:40.623 That’s why we are recording this for, Urszula. 00:35:40.682 --> 00:35:49.552 It will surely reach very many people both in Poland and in the world. 00:35:49.554 --> 00:35:57.104 We have a relatively high view rates, both in the US and in Japan and on the other side of the ocean they watch us too. 00:35:57.196 --> 00:36:07.296 Please, I’m asking you very much. Sincerely from my heart, I’m asking you very much and I already thank you for helping me. 00:36:07.418 --> 00:36:16.788 I ask you, I beg you, to the whole world. Perhaps there will be somebody in the world that heard the same thing that I read in the newspaper. 00:36:16.859 --> 00:36:20.859 So that this person simply help me. 00:36:20.859 --> 00:36:33.749 I know for sure, thank you for believing me, I am 100% convinced that the perpetrator is the commander Ramon Lopez, Cuban. 00:36:34.883 --> 00:36:39.783 This was a brief story of Urszula, Ladies and Gentleman. 00:36:39.833 --> 00:36:45.544 Perhaps we will do another interview with Urszula, we’ll see. 00:36:45.585 --> 00:36:56.365 We’ll try to gather some more material about this topic. Today we thank you for your attention. 00:36:56.402 --> 00:37:04.532 We invite you to see our other episodes on Mind Wars channel – fight for the mind. Thank you.