0:00:03.627,0:00:07.838 「我腦裏面感覺到有一場葬禮, 0:00:07.838,0:00:10.240 而殮葬嘅人不停行嚟行去, 0:00:12.900,0:00:15.836 當我嘅感覺返返嚟, 0:00:15.836,0:00:17.605 佢哋就坐返埋位, 0:00:17.605,0:00:19.603 葬禮儀式好似鼓一樣 0:00:19.603,0:00:22.315 敲打著。 0:00:22.315,0:00:25.831 直至我嘅腦完全麻木, 0:00:25.831,0:00:27.707 跟住我聽到佢哋移靈安葬我嘅遺體, 0:00:27.707,0:00:29.994 而我嘅靈魂就好似木一樣敲碎緊, 0:00:29.994,0:00:33.053 仲有佢哋好似之前一樣鉛一樣沉重嘅腳步, 0:00:33.053,0:00:36.070 而成個大嘅空間就好似有一個鐘喺度響。 0:00:36.070,0:00:38.210 天堂好似一個鐘咁, 0:00:38.210,0:00:40.201 而人就好似耳朵,聽到定時響起嘅鐘聲, 0:00:40.201,0:00:43.284 但我同寂靜屬於同一個異端, 0:00:43.284,0:00:46.493 都係擱淺喺荒島上,孤零零,喺度。 0:00:46.493,0:00:49.670 隨著支持我嘅木板斷開, 0:00:49.670,0:00:53.011 我不斷墜落, 墜落, 0:00:53.011,0:00:55.686 撞到好多嘢然後跌落一個世界, 0:00:55.686,0:01:00.198 我唔再認識事物。」 0:01:00.198,0:01:03.680 我哋喺好多喑喻裏邊見到抑鬱症 0:01:03.680,0:01:07.389 艾米莉 ‧ 狄金森將抑鬱症轉化為文字 0:01:07.389,0:01:10.130 戈雅將抑鬱症轉化成油畫 0:01:10.130,0:01:12.113 一半嘅藝術創作 0:01:12.113,0:01:15.997 係想表達抑鬱症嘅典形狀態 0:01:15.997,0:01:19.587 至於我, 我一直認為自己係堅強嘅 0:01:19.587,0:01:21.460 如果一班人被咗去集中營嘅話 0:01:21.460,0:01:24.614 我會係其中一個可以存活落嚟嘅人 0:01:24.614,0:01:27.497 1991年, 我經歷一連串嘅打擊 0:01:27.497,0:01:29.198 我母親過世 0:01:29.198,0:01:31.324 一段感情結束咗 0:01:31.324,0:01:33.167 我結束咗幾年外國生活 0:01:33.167,0:01:35.268 返返去美國 0:01:35.268,0:01:38.432 而我經歷以上打擊都仍然係好硬淨 0:01:38.432,0:01:41.539 但係喺1994,三年之後 0:01:41.539,0:01:45.932 我發覺自己幾乎對所有嘢都冇興趣 0:01:45.932,0:01:47.577 我唔想做任何 0:01:47.577,0:01:49.959 之前想做嘅嘢 0:01:49.959,0:01:51.877 我都唔知點解會噉樣 0:01:51.877,0:01:53.697 抑鬱嘅反面 0:01:53.697,0:01:56.934 唔係快樂, 係活力 0:01:58.429,0:02:02.082 活力就係嗰時我覺得我失去咗嘅嘢 0:02:02.082,0:02:04.237 每日要做嘅嘢實在太多啦 0:02:06.411,0:02:08.058 我想返屋企 0:02:08.058,0:02:11.440 見到電話答錄機上面閃著紅色燈 0:02:11.440,0:02:13.585 同因為唔使聽到朋友留言而唔使驚 0:02:13.585,0:02:15.133 我諗︰ 0:02:15.133,0:02:18.368 點解我要覆返咁多人嘅電話? 0:02:18.368,0:02:20.755 或係我應該要食午餐啦 0:02:20.755,0:02:23.301 但我會諗, 我要將食物攞出嚟 0:02:23.301,0:02:25.340 擺喺個碟度 0:02:25.340,0:02:29.389 又要切、又要擺入個口度,又要吞咗去 0:02:29.389,0:02:33.090 感覺好似耶穌行十架嘅路一樣 0:02:33.090,0:02:35.541 而有一樣成日喺討論抑鬱症嘅時候會忽略嘅嘢係 0:02:37.443,0:02:39.801 你知道抑鬱症係非常荒謬嘅一件事 0:02:39.801,0:02:42.537 你知道當你經歷抑鬱症嘅時候,佢係有幾咁荒謬 0:02:42.537,0:02:44.681 你知道大部分人會 0:02:44.681,0:02:46.995 聽答錄機嘅留言同食晏 0:02:46.995,0:02:48.907 安排好沖涼 0:02:48.907,0:02:50.167 出去屋企 0:02:50.167,0:02:51.644 呢啲都係好簡單 0:02:51.644,0:02:54.985 但你仍然係喺抑鬱症嘅控制當中 0:02:54.985,0:02:58.737 你搵唔到方法解決佢 0:02:58.737,0:03:03.236 然後我就愈嚟愈做得少同 0:03:03.236,0:03:05.326 諗得少、感受愈嚟愈少 0:03:07.694,0:03:10.049 可以話係無能 0:03:10.049,0:03:12.415 跟著焦慮嚟勒 0:03:12.415,0:03:14.694 如果你話俾我聽之後嗰幾個月 0:03:14.694,0:03:16.283 我都要處於抑鬱狀態 0:03:16.283,0:03:19.507 我會話︰只要佢十一月完,我就冇問題 0:03:19.507,0:03:20.623 但係如果你同我講 0:03:20.623,0:03:23.923 我呢幾個月都要極度焦慮 0:03:23.923,0:03:26.296 我寧願割腕自殺,好過極度焦慮幾個月 0:03:26.296,0:03:28.078 成日都會有一種 0:03:28.078,0:03:30.306 好似你行路 0:03:30.306,0:03:31.708 突然跣襯或者拤倒 0:03:31.708,0:03:33.593 而地下快速衝埋你度咁嘅感覺 0:03:33.593,0:03:36.311 但係嗰種恐懼感並唔係剩係跌落地嘅半秒鐘 0:03:36.311,0:03:38.249 而係持續咗半年 0:03:38.249,0:03:41.281 嗰種感覺令你一直覺得好驚 0:03:41.281,0:03:45.057 但你又唔會知道你驚嘅係乜嘢 0:03:45.057,0:03:47.477 就喺嗰個時候我開始諗 0:03:47.477,0:03:51.476 活著真係太痛苦 0:03:51.476,0:03:54.060 而唯一唔自殺嘅理由 0:03:54.060,0:03:57.191 就係因為唔想因為我自殺而傷害到其他人 0:03:57.191,0:04:00.184 然後有一日,當我瞓醒 0:04:00.200,0:04:02.208 突然間覺得我中風 0:04:02.208,0:04:04.939 因為我喺床上完全郁唔到 0:04:04.939,0:04:06.888 我望住個電話,諗 0:04:06.888,0:04:10.451 「有啲唔對路, 我要打去搵人幫手」 0:04:10.451,0:04:12.186 但我連手都遞唔到 0:04:12.186,0:04:14.648 噉點拎起電話打呢? 0:04:14.648,0:04:18.802 經過四個鐘頭我依煞瞓喺張床郁都郁唔到 0:04:18.802,0:04:20.164 電話響 0:04:20.164,0:04:22.412 我用盡力咁攞起個電話 0:04:22.412,0:04:24.212 嗰個係我老豆打嚟, 0:04:24.212,0:04:27.365 我話「 我遇到好大嘅麻煩, 0:04:27.365,0:04:29.528 我哋必須諗辦法解決佢。」 0:04:29.528,0:04:32.856 第二日我就開始治療同食藥 0:04:35.224,0:04:37.531 而我同時諗到 0:04:37.531,0:04:39.410 一個好弊嘅問題 0:04:39.410,0:04:41.483 如果我唔係一個堅強嘅人 0:04:41.483,0:04:44.039 可以喺集中營裏面生存嘅人 0:04:44.039,0:04:45.679 噉我係乜? 0:04:45.679,0:04:47.628 如果我要靠藥物 0:04:47.628,0:04:51.335 噉藥物係咪令我做返真正嘅自己? 0:04:51.335,0:04:53.754 定係將我變成第二個人? 0:04:53.754,0:04:55.450 如果藥物令我變成第二個人 0:04:55.450,0:04:57.989 噉我應該有咩感受? 0:04:57.989,0:05:01.300 我對抗抑鬱會有兩個好處 0:05:01.300,0:05:04.280 第一就係客觀嚟講 0:05:04.280,0:05:05.901 我會有好嘅生活 0:05:05.901,0:05:07.786 如果當我好返 0:05:07.786,0:05:09.224 噉之後就會有更美好嘅嘢等住我 0:05:11.010,0:05:14.052 第二樣就係我會得到好好嘅治療 0:05:14.052,0:05:17.816 但我好轉又復發 0:05:17.816,0:05:20.095 好轉又復發 0:05:23.139,0:05:25.092 最後我終於明白 0:05:25.092,0:05:27.336 我以後都要靠食藥同治潦生活 0:05:29.632,0:05:32.006 我就諗 ,抑鬱症到底係化學問題定精神問題呢? 0:05:33.770,0:05:37.466 需要化學治療定係心理治療? 0:05:37.466,0:05:39.525 我搞唔清楚 0:05:39.525,0:05:42.002 跟住我明白到 0:05:42.002,0:05:44.076 我哋喺是旦一個領域嘅知識都未夠深入去解釋事物 0:05:46.013,0:05:49.260 化學治療同心理治療 0:05:49.260,0:05:51.062 都有佢哋嘅作用 0:05:51.062,0:05:54.805 我同時發覺抑鬱症係一種 0:05:54.805,0:05:57.308 同我哋內心深深糾纏著嘅嘢嚟 0:05:57.308,0:05:58.927 即係話我哋冇辦法將 0:05:58.927,0:06:01.413 佢由我哋人格同個性當中分離 0:06:01.413,0:06:03.445 我想講我哋對抑鬱症嘅治療方法 0:06:03.445,0:06:05.990 其實係唔係好好 0:06:05.990,0:06:07.817 嗰啲治療都唔係好有效 0:06:07.817,0:06:09.650 而且仲非常昂貴 0:06:09.650,0:06:12.099 有好多數唔曬嘅副作用 0:06:12.099,0:06:13.888 呢啲治療嘅禍害好大 0:06:13.888,0:06:16.766 但慶幸嘅係我生活喺呢個年代,而唔係五十年前 0:06:16.766,0:06:18.576 五十年前抑鬱症 0:06:20.087,0:06:21.488 係束手無策 0:06:21.488,0:06:24.069 我希望五十年之後 0:06:24.069,0:06:25.926 當人聽到我呢一刻接受過嘅治療 0:06:25.926,0:06:28.059 會覺訝異點解會有人接受 0:06:28.059,0:06:30.885 咁原始嘅科學 0:06:30.885,0:06:35.441 抑鬱症喺感情上係一個裂口 0:06:35.441,0:06:38.582 如果你今日同某人結婚,然後諗 0:06:38.582,0:06:42.177 「如果我老婆過生, 我會搵另一個」 0:06:42.177,0:06:45.223 噉樣就唔係我哋所認知嘅愛情 0:06:45.223,0:06:47.173 如果冇預料過會失去 0:06:47.173,0:06:49.817 噉就唔叫做愛情 0:06:49.817,0:06:52.401 預見過絕望 0:06:52.401,0:06:56.130 係人變得親密嘅原動力 0:06:56.130,0:06:59.059 人成日會撈亂三樣嘢 0:06:59.059,0:07:02.859 抑鬱、哀痛以及悲傷 0:07:02.859,0:07:06.145 哀痛係好有反應 0:07:06.145,0:07:09.104 如果你因為失去某樣嘢而非常唔開心 0:07:09.104,0:07:10.737 半年之後 0:07:10.737,0:07:13.959 你仲係覺得好難過, 但比起半年前好咗啲 0:07:13.959,0:07:15.687 嗰種應該哀痛 0:07:15.687,0:07:17.979 佢 0:07:17.979,0:07:19.428 自己最後會慢慢消失 0:07:19.428,0:07:22.179 如果你經歷過一場浩劫, 0:07:22.179,0:07:23.393 感覺好慘 0:07:23.393,0:07:26.390 六個月後你只能夠僅僅噉捱落去 0:07:26.390,0:07:28.975 好可能就係浩劫發生嗰陣同時引起你嘅抑鬱 0:07:31.449,0:07:35.081 噉樣嘅軌跡畀我哋了解到抑鬱症係一件好嚴重嘅事 0:07:35.081,0:07:38.439 人哋覺得抑鬱症就同等於悲傷 0:07:38.439,0:07:40.775 但係抑鬱症卻係帶著太多太多嘅悲傷 0:07:40.775,0:07:42.439 同埋太多太多嘅哀痛 0:07:42.439,0:07:45.368 而一切都係由小事引起 0:07:45.368,0:07:48.115 當我開始去了解抑鬱症 0:07:48.115,0:07:50.950 開始同一啲曾經患過嘅人傾嘅時候 0:07:50.950,0:07:53.981 我發現嗰啲人 0:07:53.981,0:07:55.686 表現上睇起嚟 0:07:55.686,0:07:57.748 有輕微嘅抑鬱 0:07:57.748,0:08:01.195 但實際上抑鬱症令佢哋失去咗生活能力 0:08:01.195,0:08:03.053 另一邊有批人 0:08:03.053,0:08:04.365 聽起上嚟 0:08:04.365,0:08:06.616 有好嚴重嘅抑鬱 0:08:06.616,0:08:09.431 但佢哋卻係兩次病發之間生活得好好 0:08:11.586,0:08:14.271 跟著我開始搵出 0:08:14.271,0:08:15.874 係乜原因畀令某啲人 0:08:15.874,0:08:18.127 比另一啲更堅強 0:08:18.127,0:08:19.686 係乜嘢機制 0:08:19.686,0:08:21.530 令人就算有抑鬱都可以生存落嚟? 0:08:21.530,0:08:24.699 跟著我一個又一個咁 0:08:24.699,0:08:26.874 同曾經抑鬱嘅人傾 0:08:26.874,0:08:28.825 其中一個人 0:08:28.825,0:08:30.706 形容抑鬱症 0:08:30.706,0:08:33.967 係一個慢慢死亡嘅過程 0:08:33.967,0:08:36.091 好早就聽到呢種講法係好事嚟 0:08:36.091,0:08:37.457 因為佢提醒咗我 0:08:37.457,0:08:39.456 慢慢步入死亡真係可以死亡 0:08:41.491,0:08:43.495 呢樣嘢係好嚴肅 0:08:43.495,0:08:46.154 抑鬱症係全世界第一大引致失去活動能力嘅疾病 0:08:46.154,0:08:49.184 每日都有人因為抑鬱症而離開 0:08:49.184,0:08:50.953 其中一個喺我了解抑鬱症嘅時候傾嘅人 0:08:52.927,0:08:54.595 係我一個 0:08:54.595,0:08:56.613 認識多年嘅好友 0:08:56.613,0:08:59.155 佢喺大學第一年 0:08:59.155,0:09:01.059 有精神問題 0:09:01.059,0:09:04.115 之後惡化成幾多人驚嘅抑鬱症 0:09:04.115,0:09:05.541 佢精神好兩極化,即係躁鬱症 0:09:05.541,0:09:08.184 或者係之後嘅躁狂抑鬱症 0:09:08.184,0:09:10.228 經過多年鋰鹽治療 0:09:10.228,0:09:11.936 佢復完得相當唔錯 0:09:11.936,0:09:13.311 到最後 0:09:13.311,0:09:15.271 醫生停咗開鋰鹽俾佢 0:09:15.271,0:09:17.106 睇下佢可唔可以唔使藥物都得 0:09:17.106,0:09:19.081 跟著佢又再度精神失常 0:09:19.081,0:09:21.419 仲惡化成我見過最嚴重嘅抑鬱症 0:09:23.291,0:09:26.306 佢坐喺佢父母間屋裏面 0:09:26.306,0:09:29.383 手腳好硬,坐喺度唔郁 0:09:29.383,0:09:31.865 日日都係咁 0:09:31.865,0:09:35.082 幾年之後我問佢呢段經歷時 0:09:35.082,0:09:38.413 佢已經係詩人同心理治療師 Maggie Robins 0:09:38.413,0:09:41.646 佢話︰ 0:09:41.646,0:09:45.030 「我一直重複唱著Where Have All The Flowers Gone, 0:09:45.030,0:09:48.240 令我個腦剩係得呢首歌。 0:09:48.240,0:09:51.375 我唱著呢首歌去掩蓋心入邊把聲, 0:09:51.375,0:09:55.865 嗰把聲就係『你係冇用嘅,你對世界嚟講可有可無。 0:09:55.865,0:09:58.691 你根本唔配活喺呢個世界上。』 0:09:58.691,0:10:00.869 呢個時候我開始諗住自殺。」 0:10:03.082,0:10:04.990 你有抑鬱嘅時候唔會諗 0:10:04.990,0:10:07.127 你係戴咗一塊灰色面紗 0:10:07.127,0:10:09.107 唔會覺得自己係透過負面情緒去睇嘢 0:10:11.001,0:10:13.721 你只會認為一塊代表快樂嘅面紗被人攞走咗 0:10:15.643,0:10:18.067 你覺得宜家先係睇到真實嘅世界 0:10:18.067,0:10:21.031 同樣係人格分裂嘅病人,內心覺得有嘢需要驅趕嘅一類病人比較容易治療 0:10:25.029,0:10:27.193 但抑鬱類型嘅病人就難啲 0:10:27.193,0:10:31.040 因為病人相信佢哋睇到真實世界 0:10:31.040,0:10:33.987 但真實世界卻係講緊大話 0:10:33.987,0:10:35.985 我成日聽到呢句說話 0:10:35.985,0:10:38.360 「但真實世界卻係講緊大話」 0:10:38.360,0:10:40.813 當我同抑鬱嘅人傾計嘅時候,我發現 0:10:40.813,0:10:43.495 佢哋有好多幻覺 0:10:43.495,0:10:45.162 佢哋會話「冇人愛我」 0:10:45.162,0:10:46.813 然後你同佢講 「我愛你, 0:10:46.813,0:10:49.335 你老婆愛你, 你媽咪愛你。」 0:10:49.335,0:10:51.258 你可以好快咁應返佢哋大部分人 0:10:52.923,0:10:55.190 但係抑鬱症嘅人會話 0:10:55.190,0:10:56.895 「無論我哋點樣努力, 0:10:56.895,0:10:59.168 我哋最後都會死。」 0:10:59.168,0:11:01.371 或者佢哋會話, 「兩個人之間 0:11:01.371,0:11:03.024 唔會有真正嘅溝通。 0:11:03.024,0:11:05.600 每個人只會畀自己嘅身體困住。」 0:11:05.600,0:11:07.449 你只可以回答 0:11:07.449,0:11:08.770 「冇錯, 0:11:08.770,0:11:10.588 但我覺得我哋宜家應該諗 0:11:10.588,0:11:12.484 我哋早餐食啲乜。」 0:11:12.484,0:11:14.669 (笑聲) 0:11:14.669,0:11:16.338 好多時 0:11:16.338,0:11:19.234 佢哋表逹嘅並唔係一種病, 而係佢哋睇嘢嘅角度 0:11:19.234,0:11:21.891 而佢哋會覺得好特別嘅嘢會係 0:11:21.891,0:11:24.825 我哋大部分人都一早知道嘅問題 0:11:24.825,0:11:27.115 呢啲問題唔會好令我哋分心 0:11:27.115,0:11:29.274 我幾鐘意一個調查 0:11:29.274,0:11:30.954 一班抑鬱症病人 0:11:30.954,0:11:32.855 同一班冇抑鬱嘅人 0:11:32.855,0:11:35.478 需要分別玩電子遊戲一粒鐘 0:11:35.478,0:11:37.291 當佢哋玩完 0:11:37.291,0:11:38.942 佢哋要回答佢哋覺得喺遊戲裏面 0:11:38.942,0:11:40.806 殺咗幾多隻怪獸 0:11:40.806,0:11:43.018 抑鬱症嗰班人通常講到 10% 之內誤差嘅數字 0:11:45.076,0:11:46.547 至於冇抑鬱症嘅人 0:11:46.547,0:11:50.092 佢哋估嘅數字 0:11:50.092,0:11:51.834 係佢哋真正殺咗數目嘅15-20倍(笑聲) 0:11:51.834,0:11:55.945 0:11:55.945,0:11:59.011 好多人會話,當我決定寫我嘅抑鬱症 0:11:59.011,0:12:00.780 係一個非常困難嘅決定 0:12:03.904,0:12:06.104 佢哋問︰ 「人哋同你傾計嘅時候會唔會唔同?」 0:12:06.104,0:12:08.176 我話︰「係,人哋同我傾計會有唔同。」 0:12:10.090,0:12:12.880 佢哋會同我講佢哋抑鬱症嘅經驗 0:12:12.880,0:12:14.715 可能係佢哋家姐、細妹 0:12:14.715,0:12:16.489 可能係佢哋嘅朋友. 0:12:16.489,0:12:18.781 宜家唔同啦因為我知道 0:12:18.781,0:12:21.462 抑鬱症每個家庭都曾經有過 0:12:23.539,0:12:27.167 前幾年我去咗個研討會 0:12:27.167,0:12:29.820 喺嗰個為期三日嘅研討會入面,其中一日,係星期五嚟 0:12:29.820,0:12:32.711 其中一個參加者將我拉到一旁, 然後佢同我講︰ 0:12:32.711,0:12:36.116 「我有抑鬱症, 0:12:36.116,0:12:38.885 而呢個病令我覺得尷尬, 0:12:38.885,0:12:40.988 但係我一路有食藥。 0:12:40.988,0:12:43.936 我剩係想問下你你點樣睇?」 0:12:43.936,0:12:46.770 所以我就盡我所能答佢 0:12:46.770,0:12:48.490 佢跟住話︰ 「你知嗎? 0:12:48.490,0:12:51.281 我老公永遠唔會明白架。 0:12:51.281,0:12:53.854 呢樣嘢對佢完全冇意義。 0:12:53.854,0:12:56.721 所以, 呢個係我哋嘅秘密。」 0:12:56.721,0:12:58.507 我返答 ︰「冇問題。」 0:12:58.507,0:13:00.616 跟著喺研討會嘅最後一日 0:13:00.616,0:13:03.660 佢丈夫又拉埋我一邊(笑聲) 0:13:03.660,0:13:05.354 佢話 「我妻子如果知道我有抑鬱症嘅話,絕對唔會覺得我係一個男人。 0:13:10.255,0:13:11.609 我有食藥。 0:13:11.609,0:13:14.114 我想知道你點諗? 0:13:14.114,0:13:15.537 佢哋兩夫妻 0:13:15.537,0:13:17.752 將佢哋同一款藥收埋喺同一間睡房 0:13:17.752,0:13:20.397 嘅唔同地方(笑聲) 0:13:20.397,0:13:22.418 我諗 0:13:22.418,0:13:24.102 佢哋溝通唔係好好 0:13:24.102,0:13:26.116 導致一啲問題出現 0:13:26.116,0:13:30.307 (笑聲) 0:13:30.307,0:13:31.962 同時我都因為 0:13:31.962,0:13:33.768 佢哋互相提防 0:13:33.768,0:13:36.141 而覺得辛苦 0:13:36.141,0:13:38.026 抑鬱症令人好攰 0:13:38.026,0:13:40.794 佢用咗你好多時間同精力 0:13:40.794,0:13:42.298 唔理抑鬱症 0:13:42.298,0:13:45.029 只會令抑鬱症惡化 0:13:45.029,0:13:46.762 然後我開始諗抑鬱症患者康復嘅方法 0:13:46.762,0:13:48.728 0:13:48.728,0:13:51.167 我會由傳統治療開始 0:13:51.167,0:13:53.539 我知道只有少數治療至可以對患者有幫助 0:13:53.539,0:13:55.348 好明顯係邊幾種方法 0:13:55.348,0:13:56.992 有藥物 0:13:56.992,0:13:58.468 有一啲心理治療 0:13:58.468,0:14:00.913 仲可能有電痙攣療法 0:14:00.913,0:14:03.588 而其他方法都係冇用 0:14:03.588,0:14:05.420 我發現咗一樣嘢 0:14:05.420,0:14:07.172 如果你有腦癌 0:14:07.172,0:14:08.644 而每朝 0:14:08.644,0:14:11.639 倒立廿分鐘會令你感覺好啲 0:14:11.639,0:14:13.153 可能真係會畀你感覺好啲啦 0:14:13.153,0:14:14.741 但係你嘅腦癌從來都冇消失過 0:14:14.741,0:14:17.030 你最終都有可能死於腦癌 0:14:17.030,0:14:19.542 但如果你有抑鬱症 0:14:19.542,0:14:21.647 而每日倒立廿分鐘 0:14:21.647,0:14:24.131 會畀你感覺好一啲, 噉就真係有效啦 0:14:24.131,0:14:26.491 因為抑鬱症係你認知上出現咗問題 0:14:26.491,0:14:28.100 而你感覺好啲 0:14:28.100,0:14:30.930 就代表咗你唔再係抑鬱 0:14:30.930,0:14:32.963 所以我開始接受其他唔同嘅 0:14:32.963,0:14:35.888 治療 0:14:35.888,0:14:38.272 然後我收到好多患者寄嚟嘅信 0:14:38.272,0:14:40.788 講有咩方法對佢哋奏效 0:14:40.788,0:14:42.989 就好似今日噉就有人喺後台問我藥物方面嘅嘢 0:14:44.452,0:14:46.917 我最鐘意嘅一封信 0:14:46.917,0:14:48.391 係由一個女士寫嘅 0:14:48.391,0:14:50.598 佢話佢曾經嘗試過治療、藥物 0:14:50.598,0:14:52.985 所有嘅嘢都試過曬 0:14:52.985,0:14:55.822 最後佢搵到一種方法, 並且想我同大家分享 0:14:55.822,0:14:59.634 就係用毛冷整唔同嘅小飾物 0:14:59.634,0:15:02.633 (笑聲) 0:15:02.633,0:15:06.157 佢仲送咗啲佢整嘅作品(笑聲) 0:15:06.157,0:15:09.845 不過我宜家冇帶著佢哋 0:15:09.845,0:15:12.360 我叫佢睇一睇 0:15:12.360,0:15:16.408 心理醫學診斷同統計手冊裡面有關強迫症嘅部分 0:15:16.408,0:15:19.536 當我搵其他治療嘅時候 0:15:19.536,0:15:22.444 我對佢哋了解深咗 0:15:22.444,0:15:25.347 我曾經去過塞內加爾一個部落嘅驅邪儀式 0:15:25.347,0:15:27.360 儀式入面有好多公羊嘅血 0:15:27.360,0:15:29.422 我唔喺度描述啦 0:15:29.422,0:15:31.422 但幾年後我喺盧旺達 0:15:31.422,0:15:33.180 參與另一項計畫 0:15:33.180,0:15:35.976 我要同人講我喺塞內加爾嘅經歷 0:15:35.976,0:15:37.736 佢話︰「嗰度係西非,你知嗎? 0:15:37.736,0:15:39.556 我哋係喺東非, 0:15:39.556,0:15:41.390 我哋嘅儀式同佢哋嘅喺幾方面都有好大分別, 0:15:41.390,0:15:43.403 但同時都有一啲 0:15:43.403,0:15:45.390 相同嘅地方。 0:15:47.053,0:15:49.695 但係我哋同西方心理健康人員有唔少麻煩, 0:15:49.695,0:15:52.452 尤其係嗰啲喺種族屠殺之後嚟嘅人。」 0:15:52.452,0:15:54.779 我問︰「佢哋帶俾你咩麻煩?」 0:15:54.779,0:15:56.325 佢話︰ 0:15:56.325,0:15:58.989 「佢哋做啲嘢真係好好, 0:15:58.989,0:16:00.874 佢哋不但止冇帶病人曬太陽, 0:16:00.874,0:16:02.574 令病人感覺好啲, 0:16:02.574,0:16:05.668 佢哋仲冇打鼓或者播音樂,令病人嘅血活起上嚟。 0:16:05.668,0:16:07.510 佢哋冇帶動成個社群, 0:16:07.510,0:16:09.285 佢哋冇將抑鬱症 0:16:09.285,0:16:10.718 講成為一種入侵性嘅惡靈。 0:16:10.718,0:16:13.349 佢哋反而將病人 0:16:13.349,0:16:15.977 逐個帶入一間黑房, 0:16:15.977,0:16:17.320 由佢哋自己 0:16:17.320,0:16:19.550 講返佢哋經歷過痛苦嘅嘢。」 0:16:19.550,0:16:25.010 (笑聲) (掌聲) 0:16:25.010,0:16:27.372 佢話 ︰「 我哋只好請佢哋離開國家。」 0:16:27.372,0:16:30.429 (笑聲) 0:16:30.429,0:16:32.873 宜家講下其他另類療法 0:16:32.873,0:16:34.908 介紹一下 Frank Russakoff 0:16:34.908,0:16:37.961 Frank Russakoff 有好嚴重嘅抑鬱症 0:16:37.961,0:16:40.876 應該話我係從來未喺任何一個男人身上見過嘅 0:16:40.876,0:16:42.869 佢成日抑鬱 0:16:42.869,0:16:45.010 當我見佢嘅時候, 佢 0:16:45.010,0:16:48.168 每個月都要接受電擊治療 0:16:48.168,0:16:50.743 治療完之後嘅一個禮拜佢會覺得迷茫 0:16:50.743,0:16:52.546 之後第二個禮拜又會好返 0:16:52.546,0:16:54.246 跟著又會抑鬱 0:16:54.246,0:16:56.931 噉樣嘅話佢又要去接受電擊治療 0:16:56.931,0:16:58.346 當我見到佢,佢同我講 0:16:58.346,0:17:00.898 「我已經忍受唔到噉樣過日子, 0:17:00.898,0:17:02.405 我唔可以再繼續噉樣落去。 0:17:02.405,0:17:04.669 假如情況冇好轉,我知道點樣解束佢。」 0:17:06.226,0:17:08.934 佢同我講︰「但係,我聽過 0:17:08.934,0:17:11.157 麻省總醫院有個療法叫做 0:17:11.157,0:17:13.183 扣帶回切開術, 係一種腦科手術, 0:17:13.183,0:17:15.754 我諗我可以試試。」 0:17:15.754,0:17:17.708 我記得當時我好開心 0:17:17.708,0:17:19.008 因為一個人 0:17:19.008,0:17:22.229 已經經歷過咁多 0:17:22.229,0:17:24.088 慘痛經歷、咁多唔同嘅治療 0:17:24.088,0:17:27.210 但佢內心仲抱著一絲嘅樂觀 0:17:27.210,0:17:29.760 佢願意再試多次 0:17:29.760,0:17:31.940 佢做咗個 0:17:31.940,0:17:33.981 好成功嘅手術 0:17:33.981,0:17:35.474 宜家仲係我朋友 0:17:35.474,0:17:38.966 佢有一個好老婆同兩個可愛嘅細路 0:17:38.966,0:17:41.915 佢手術之後嘅聖誕節寫咗封信俾我 0:17:41.915,0:17:43.104 佢話︰ 0:17:43.104,0:17:45.511 「我老豆今年寄咗我兩份禮物, 0:17:45.511,0:17:48.113 第一份係 The Sharper Image 牌嘅可捲動式 CD 架, 0:17:48.113,0:17:49.534 但我唔需要佢。 0:17:49.534,0:17:51.631 不過我知道佢送嚟係想 0:17:51.631,0:17:53.359 慶祝我可以獨立生活、 0:17:53.359,0:17:55.406 有自己鐘意嘅工。 0:17:55.406,0:17:56.967 另一份禮物 0:17:56.967,0:17:58.543 係我婆婆嘅相, 0:17:58.543,0:18:00.795 我婆婆死於自殺。 0:18:00.795,0:18:03.730 當我拆禮物,我就喊咗出嚟, 0:18:03.730,0:18:05.610 然後我媽咪過嚟同我講︰ 0:18:05.610,0:18:08.925 你係咪未見過婆婆而喊? 0:18:08.925,0:18:13.013 我答︰婆婆同我都有同樣嘅病。 0:18:13.013,0:18:15.594 我喊係因為我寫俾你。 0:18:15.594,0:18:19.189 我唔係傷心, 而係我個腦太多嘢啦。 0:18:19.189,0:18:21.410 我覺得自己會自殺, 0:18:21.410,0:18:23.113 但父母同醫生支持我。 0:18:24.862,0:18:26.716 我做咗手術, 0:18:26.716,0:18:29.531 我仲生存,我好感激。 0:18:29.531,0:18:31.791 雖然有時感覺唔係活喺一個啱嘅年代, 0:18:31.791,0:18:35.670 我哋確實活喺一個啱嘅年代。」 0:18:35.670,0:18:37.567 我驚訝抑鬱症竟然 0:18:37.567,0:18:39.292 被認為係 0:18:39.292,0:18:42.829 一種現代、西方、中產嘅嘢 0:18:42.829,0:18:44.981 於是我就睇下抑鬱症 0:18:44.981,0:18:46.984 喺其他唔同地方係點發生 0:18:46.984,0:18:49.103 我最感到興趣嘅係 0:18:49.103,0:18:50.893 低下階層嘅抑鬱情況 0:18:50.893,0:18:52.674 所以我搵出 0:18:52.674,0:18:55.254 針對窮人嘅抑鬱有乜係做咗 0:18:55.254,0:18:57.412 我發現大多數有抑鬱症嘅窮人 0:18:57.412,0:18:59.969 都冇接受過治療 0:18:59.969,0:19:02.888 抑鬱症係基因易受損嘅結果 0:19:02.888,0:19:06.046 呢種基因按理會喺成個人口裡面平均分布 0:19:06.046,0:19:07.999 而發病情況 0:19:07.999,0:19:09.902 尤其窮人會相對嚴重 0:19:11.777,0:19:14.204 但實情係 0:19:14.204,0:19:16.344 如果你有一個美好嘅生活但一直覺得自己好淒慘 0:19:16.344,0:19:18.344 同埋問︰「點解我會有咁嘅感覺? 0:19:18.344,0:19:20.013 我應該有抑鬱啦。」 0:19:20.013,0:19:21.936 然後你去搵治療 0:19:21.936,0:19:24.029 但係如果你有一個好慘嘅人生 0:19:24.029,0:19:25.896 而你一直都覺得好慘 0:19:25.896,0:19:28.722 你慘嘅感覺同你慘嘅生活呼應 0:19:28.722,0:19:30.446 你唔會諗 0:19:30.446,0:19:32.229 呢個病可以醫得好 0:19:32.229,0:19:35.365 換句話講,我哋抑鬱國家入面嘅貧窮人口 0:19:35.365,0:19:38.278 爆發咗流行病 0:19:38.278,0:19:40.790 但冇人提過佢、冇人會醫過佢 0:19:40.790,0:19:42.846 冇人重視過佢 0:19:42.846,0:19:45.046 係社會嘅悲劇 0:19:45.046,0:19:46.534 所以我搵咗一個學者 0:19:46.534,0:19:48.351 佢進行梗一個 0:19:48.351,0:19:50.092 關於華盛頓外圍貧民區嘅研究 0:19:50.092,0:19:53.089 佢揀咗求診嘅女性做對象 0:19:53.089,0:19:54.868 呢啲女性係因為其他病至求診,但後來都發現到有抑鬱 0:19:54.868,0:19:58.134 於是班人得到六星期嘅試驗性治療 0:19:58.134,0:20:00.463 Lolly 係其中一個參加嘅人 0:20:00.463,0:20:02.760 佢第一日入嚟就話 0:20:02.760,0:20:06.155 佢係七個細路嘅母親 0:20:06.155,0:20:08.247 佢話 0:20:08.247,0:20:10.898 佢以前有做嘢,但佢宜家要放棄份工 0:20:10.898,0:20:12.958 「因為我出唔到間屋。 0:20:12.958,0:20:15.186 我同細路冇嘢講。 0:20:15.186,0:20:17.953 朝早, 我唔可以等住佢哋走, 0:20:17.953,0:20:20.943 我只好返上床用被遮住個頭。 0:20:20.943,0:20:22.589 三點鐘當小朋友返到屋企, 0:20:22.589,0:20:24.390 我覺得時間過得好快 0:20:24.390,0:20:26.630 佢話︰ 「我一直有食開 Tylenol, 0:20:26.630,0:20:29.389 任何可以畀我瞓耐啲嘅藥物。 0:20:29.389,0:20:33.159 我丈夫一直話我又蠢又醜, 0:20:33.159,0:20:36.664 我希望痛楚可以停止。」 0:20:36.664,0:20:39.304 佢就係噉帶咗入嚟呢個試驗性嘅治療 0:20:39.304,0:20:41.612 六個月後我再同佢傾 0:20:41.612,0:20:46.019 佢已經喺一間美國海軍嘅托兒所度做 0:20:46.019,0:20:49.824 佢離開有暴力傾向嘅丈夫 0:20:49.824,0:20:51.906 佢話畀我知 0:20:51.906,0:20:54.275 佢啲細路比以前仲開心咗添 0:20:54.275,0:20:56.252 佢話, 喺佢間新屋入面有一間房專門俾男仔 0:20:56.252,0:20:58.860 仲有一間房專門俾女仔 0:20:58.860,0:21:01.399 「但係夜晚細路都去晒我張床, 0:21:01.399,0:21:04.011 我哋一齊做功課同埋其他嘢。 0:21:04.011,0:21:05.684 其中一個小朋友話想做牧師。 0:21:05.684,0:21:07.384 另一個想做消防員。 0:21:07.384,0:21:10.350 有個女話想做律師。 0:21:10.350,0:21:12.355 佢哋唔似以前噉喊, 0:21:12.355,0:21:14.913 同埋冇再打交。 0:21:14.913,0:21:18.693 我宜家需要嘅就只係我小朋友。 0:21:18.693,0:21:20.605 事情一直喺度改變梗, 0:21:20.605,0:21:25.798 我著衫、我對事物嘅感覺,仲有我平時嘅態度都有唔同。 0:21:25.798,0:21:29.485 我可以行出門口而唔覺得驚。 0:21:29.485,0:21:32.894 我唔覺得以前唔好嘅感覺會返返嚟。 0:21:32.894,0:21:35.929 如果唔係 Miranda 醫生, 0:21:35.929,0:21:39.546 我可能仲要匿喺屋企用被襟著個頭。 0:21:39.546,0:21:41.895 如果我仲活著嘅話, 0:21:41.895,0:21:45.627 我會問上帝派一隻天使嚟, 0:21:45.627,0:21:49.957 令佢可以聽到我嘅禱告。」 0:21:49.959,0:21:53.312 佢嘅經驗令我非常感動 0:21:53.312,0:21:55.851 我決定將佢嘅經歷寫落嚟 0:21:55.851,0:21:57.230 唔只寫入我喺寫梗嘅一本書 0:21:57.230,0:21:58.541 仲會寫喺專欄裡面 0:21:58.541,0:22:00.862 同埋紐約時代雜誌邀請我 0:22:00.862,0:22:02.878 寫關於窮人嘅抑鬱症 0:22:02.878,0:22:04.494 我就寫咗我遇過真實嘅故事 0:22:04.494,0:22:06.090 但編輯打嚟話︰ 0:22:06.090,0:22:07.800 「我哋登唔到噉樣嘅文章。」 0:22:07.800,0:22:09.550 我話點解唔得? 0:22:09.550,0:22:11.855 佢話個故事太牽強啦 0:22:11.855,0:22:15.633 「呢啲人係社會嘅最底層, 0:22:15.633,0:22:17.337 佢哋接受咗幾個月治療之後, 0:22:17.337,0:22:19.969 就可以去摩根史坦利返工? 0:22:19.969,0:22:21.823 簡直難以置信。」 0:22:21.823,0:22:24.028 佢話︰「我從來未聽過噉樣嘅嘢。」 0:22:24.028,0:22:26.562 我話你冇聽過就代表咗 0:22:26.562,0:22:29.562 呢單係一單「新」聞 0:22:29.562,0:22:35.696 (笑聲)(掌聲) 0:22:37.317,0:22:39.811 我仲話呢個係一間新聞雜誌社嚟架 0:22:39.811,0:22:41.793 噉傾咗一輪之後 0:22:41.793,0:22:43.034 佢哋同意刊登我嘅文章 0:22:43.034,0:22:44.649 但我諗好多佢哋講嘅嘢 0:22:44.649,0:22:46.944 都係好怪,同埋有偏見 0:22:46.944,0:22:49.086 佢哋覺得如果我哋去醫班窮人 0:22:49.086,0:22:50.549 係剝削梗佢哋 0:22:57.025,0:22:58.667 原因係我哋會改變佢哋 0:22:58.667,0:23:00.700 呢啲虛偽嘅道德情操 0:23:00.700,0:23:02.489 似乎無處不在 0:23:02.489,0:23:04.843 佢哋覺得抑鬱症嘅治療 0:23:04.843,0:23:07.142 藥物以至其他嘢都係人工合成嘅 0:23:07.142,0:23:09.314 唔係自然嘅 0:23:09.314,0:23:12.163 而我覺得佢哋係非常之誤導 0:23:12.163,0:23:15.695 人嘅牙會脫落係正常不過嘅事 0:23:15.695,0:23:19.025 但唔會因為噉有人反對用牙膏 0:23:19.025,0:23:21.153 至少我圈子裏面嘅人冇 0:23:21.153,0:23:23.655 然後有人會話 0:23:23.655,0:23:25.840 抑鬱症唔係每個人都一定會經歷嘅嘢? 0:23:25.840,0:23:27.581 我哋唔係進化到有抑鬱症架咩? 0:23:27.581,0:23:29.488 抑鬱症唔通唔係我哋性格嘅一部分? 0:23:29.488,0:23:32.234 噉我就會話,情緒係可以改嘅 0:23:32.234,0:23:35.563 能夠有傷痛、恐懼 0:23:35.563,0:23:37.405 快樂、舒適 0:23:37.405,0:23:39.208 以及其他唔同嘅情緒 0:23:39.208,0:23:41.272 其實係非常珍貴嘅 0:23:41.272,0:23:44.319 抑鬱症係由於 0:23:44.319,0:23:46.331 情緒系統崩潰 0:23:46.331,0:23:48.048 係壞嘅轉變 0:23:48.048,0:23:49.620 有啲人走嚟同我講︰ 0:23:49.620,0:23:52.388 「如果我再撐多年, 0:23:52.388,0:23:54.464 我應該會走出抑鬱症。」 0:23:54.464,0:23:56.767 我一直同佢哋講︰「你可以走得返出嚟, 0:23:56.767,0:23:59.476 但你永遠唔會再係年輕。 0:23:59.476,0:24:02.026 人生短暫, 但你成年都喺度講想放棄。 0:24:03.982,0:24:05.520 諗下啦。」 0:24:05.520,0:24:08.366 英文入面關於抑鬱嘅字真係好少 0:24:08.366,0:24:10.474 其他語言都係噉 0:24:10.474,0:24:12.692 我哋用同一個字︰depression 0:24:12.692,0:24:14.497 去形容一個細路喺佢生日嗰日遇到落雨時 0:24:14.497,0:24:16.209 嘅感覺 0:24:16.209,0:24:18.737 同一個字會形容 0:24:18.737,0:24:21.191 一個人自殺前嘅心情 0:24:21.191,0:24:24.296 有啲人同我講︰「抑鬱係唔係平時傷心嘅延續?」 0:24:24.296,0:24:27.440 我話︰「可以係延續嘅, 0:24:27.440,0:24:29.640 抑鬱係有傷心嘅延續。 0:24:29.640,0:24:31.597 打個比喻 0:24:31.597,0:24:33.584 你間屋出面道圍欄 0:24:33.584,0:24:35.261 有一個好細嘅鏽跡 0:24:35.261,0:24:38.007 你可以磨佢然後再上漆 0:24:38.007,0:24:40.654 但如果你唔理間屋一百年 0:24:40.654,0:24:43.552 成個欄就會生鏽到剩返 0:24:43.552,0:24:44.786 一堆橙色嘅鏽屑 0:24:44.786,0:24:46.959 就係開頭小小嘅生鏽 0:24:46.959,0:24:48.748 我哋要去解決 0:24:51.737,0:24:53.977 所以宜家啲人話 0:24:53.977,0:24:56.708 「你食咗開心丸, 你會開心嗎?」 0:24:56.708,0:24:58.594 對於我嚟講冇 0:24:58.594,0:25:01.416 我唔會因為食晏而覺得傷心 0:25:01.416,0:25:04.252 我唔會因為我嗰電話答錄機而傷心 0:25:04.252,0:25:07.097 我唔會因為沖涼而傷心 0:25:07.097,0:25:09.951 我諗我感受到更多 0:25:09.951,0:25:12.381 因為我會因為某啲嘢而傷心 0:25:12.381,0:25:16.728 我可以因為工作上嘅失望而傷心 0:25:16.728,0:25:19.075 或者因為轉壞嘅關係 0:25:19.075,0:25:21.114 又或者全球暖化 0:25:21.114,0:25:23.839 呢啲嘢都係我宜家傷心嘅 0:25:23.839,0:25:26.573 然後我同自己講,噉又點? 0:25:26.573,0:25:29.134 有更好生活嘅人 0:25:29.134,0:25:31.688 甚至有更嚴重抑鬱,係點樣走出嚟架呢? 0:25:31.688,0:25:34.485 對抗逆境個心理機制又係點架呢? 0:25:34.485,0:25:36.569 我慢慢總結出 0:25:36.569,0:25:39.485 否定過往有抑鬱嘅人 0:25:39.485,0:25:41.517 話自己好耐以前曾經抑鬱 0:25:41.517,0:25:43.254 但唔想諗返轉頭 0:25:43.254,0:25:44.496 唔再面對佢 0:25:44.496,0:25:46.386 只係想過好嘅生活 0:25:46.386,0:25:48.345 非常諷刺地, 呢啲人 0:25:48.345,0:25:51.043 卻係畀佢哋擁有嘅嘢控制咗 0:25:51.043,0:25:53.607 唔正視抑鬱症只會令得情況更加嚴重 0:25:53.607,0:25:56.887 當你避避佢,佢反而惡化 0:25:56.887,0:25:59.747 表現比較好嘅人反而會 0:25:59.747,0:26:02.346 接受佢哋 0:26:02.346,0:26:03.968 有抑鬱症 0:26:03.968,0:26:06.438 肯面對抑鬱嘅人就會更堅強 0:26:08.220,0:26:10.003 所以 Frank Russakoff 同我講︰ 0:26:10.003,0:26:11.519 「如果我可以再嚟一次, 0:26:11.519,0:26:13.656 我唔會揀呢條路,我反而會揀一個唔尋常嘅方式。 0:26:13.656,0:26:15.620 我好感激 0:26:15.620,0:26:17.123 我經歷過嘅嘢。 0:26:17.123,0:26:20.940 我好開心我留過院四十次。 0:26:20.940,0:26:23.543 我留院學識咗乜係愛。 0:26:23.543,0:26:26.383 我同父母、醫生嘅關係 0:26:26.383,0:26:30.772 係以後都係最珍惜嘅。」 0:26:30.772,0:26:32.698 而 Maggie Robbins 話︰ 0:26:32.698,0:26:35.687 「我以前喺一個愛滋病嘅診所做義工。 0:26:35.687,0:26:38.701 我工作嘅時候,我會唔停咁講嘢 0:26:38.701,0:26:40.514 我對著嘅人 0:26:40.514,0:26:42.581 冇乜反應, 所以我就覺得 0:26:42.581,0:26:46.542 佢哋唔係好友善。」(笑聲) 0:26:46.542,0:26:48.184 「但我之後發覺, 0:26:48.184,0:26:50.311 佢哋除咗頭五分鐘嘅傾計之外, 0:26:50.311,0:26:52.698 就唔想做其他嘢。 0:26:54.755,0:26:57.633 好似我冇愛滋病、唔使死, 0:26:57.633,0:27:00.606 但又可以接受到嗰啲人一樣 0:27:02.393,0:27:05.996 我哋嘅需求正正係我哋最大嘅本錢。 0:27:05.996,0:27:08.135 我學識點樣 0:27:08.135,0:27:12.160 放開我想要嘅嘢。」 0:27:12.160,0:27:13.851 重視抑鬱症 0:27:13.851,0:27:16.045 唔擔保抑鬱症唔會復發 0:27:16.045,0:27:18.706 但會令復發嘅心理準備 0:27:18.706,0:27:22.924 同復發本身都更容易去接受 0:27:22.924,0:27:24.969 個意義唔係在於去搵 0:27:24.969,0:27:27.144 抑鬱症嘅意義或者覺得 0:27:27.144,0:27:29.171 自己嘅抑鬱症好有意義 0:27:29.171,0:27:31.342 而係 0:27:31.342,0:27:33.146 當抑鬱症再嚟嘅時候 0:27:33.146,0:27:34.786 雖然好似好弊 0:27:34.786,0:27:37.487 但我會從中學到嘢 0:27:37.487,0:27:39.751 由以前嘅抑鬱學到 0:27:39.751,0:27:41.764 情緒可以有幾大 0:27:41.764,0:27:44.861 而又點樣可以比事實更加真實 0:27:44.861,0:27:47.810 經歷 0:27:47.810,0:27:50.702 令我情緒正面嘅時候 0:27:50.702,0:27:54.222 我識得更加集中同投入咁感受正面情緒 0:27:54.222,0:27:57.709 抑鬱症嘅相反唔係快樂 0:27:57.709,0:27:59.163 而係活力 0:27:59.163,0:28:01.904 而這些日子我的生命充滿活力, 0:28:04.649,0:28:07.962 就算傷心嘅時候都係 0:28:07.962,0:28:09.986 我腦入面感受到嗰場葬禮 0:28:09.986,0:28:12.233 我同一個巨人坐喺世界嘅邊緣 0:28:12.233,0:28:14.322 我發現自己內心嘅 0:28:14.322,0:28:16.173 一啲嘢 0:28:16.173,0:28:18.306 以前我要呼喚內心 0:28:18.306,0:28:22.062 但直到廿年前嘅一日,地獄好似派咗使者嚟,之後我明白到所有嘢,我唔使再呼喚自己 0:28:26.580,0:28:30.678 當我唔鐘意抑鬱、 0:28:30.678,0:28:33.012 唔想再抑鬱嘅時候 0:28:33.012,0:28:35.756 我搵到一個愛上抑鬱症嘅方法 0:28:35.756,0:28:37.781 我愛佢係因為佢令我 0:28:37.781,0:28:40.550 去尋同埋堅持快樂 0:28:40.550,0:28:44.038 我愛佢因為我決定每日 0:28:44.038,0:28:45.578 有時因為玩 0:28:45.578,0:28:48.276 有時因為喺嗰刻特登唱反調 0:28:48.276,0:28:50.854 去擁抱生存嘅理由 0:28:50.854,0:28:54.977 呢樣嘢可喜可賀,亦係一份榮譽 0:28:54.977,0:28:58.960 多謝 0:28:58.960,0:29:02.096 (掌聲)