[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.96,0:00:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,카라 워커: "어떤 정묘함, 또는 경이로운 슈가 베이비" Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.56,0:00:51.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[워커] "카라 워커의 작품은 역사를 다룬다..." Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.96,0:00:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[도미노 설탕 공장, 브루클릭, 뉴욕] Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.52,0:00:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,이런 류의 표현 말이죠, Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.81,0:00:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"카라 워커는 역사를 다룬다" Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.46,0:01:00.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,그 속에는 우리 역사와 Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.71,0:01:03.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,인종차별의 문제를 해결해 줄 Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.82,0:01:06.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,영웅에 대한 소망이 담겨있죠 Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.03,0:01:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,전 제 작품이 그렇게 효과적으로 역사를 Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.00,0:01:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,다룬다고 생각하지는 않아요 Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.84,0:01:14.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,제 작품은 오히려 Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.46,0:01:16.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,역사에 포섭되었다고 봐야겠죠 [웃음] Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.23,0:01:17.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,사로잡혔다고나 할까요 Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.10,0:01:24.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,좋아요, 이제... Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.04,0:01:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,뒤부터 시작해서 앞으로요 Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.61,0:01:27.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,뒤에서부터... Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.49,0:01:28.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,배치도를 보면... Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.86,0:01:30.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,14, 24, 34, 44 Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.76,0:01:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,됐어요 Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.26,0:01:35.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[워커] '크리에이티브 타임'의 디렉터\N네이토 톰슨이 말하길, Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.96,0:01:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"여길 꼭 봐야해요," 라고 하더군요 Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.52,0:01:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"당밀로 가득찬 곳이에요" Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.10,0:01:42.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,벽에도 당밀이 발려있고 Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.61,0:01:44.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,서까래에도 당밀 천지죠 Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.22,0:01:46.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,당밀 덩어리가 15미터 위에도\N매달려있죠 Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.71,0:01:50.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,모두 정제 과정에서 나온\N찌꺼기들이에요 Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.84,0:01:54.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,설탕 산업의 대성당 같은 곳이었죠 Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.61,0:01:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,설탕이란 한 가공품을\N위한 대성당이요 Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.42,0:02:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,이번 프로젝트는 전시일정이 Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.44,0:02:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,끝나는 대로 이곳이 철거될 거란 Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.44,0:02:06.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,이해 하에 계획되었죠 Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.22,0:02:12.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,저는 이 공장을 더 잘 이해하기 위해 Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.70,0:02:16.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,설탕 공정 과정에 대해 공부해야 했죠 Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.22,0:02:18.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,설탕은 사탕수수에서 오죠 Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.95,0:02:23.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,사탕 수수는 열대 기후에서 자라요 Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.50,0:02:29.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,예나 지금이나 사탕 수수를\N재배하는 건 노예들이죠 Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.25,0:02:32.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,제대로 된 임금을 못 받는 사람들,\N아마도 어린 아이들이겠죠 Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.39,0:02:36.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,정말 흥미롭고도 기나긴 역사죠 Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.88,0:02:42.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,자유 연상되는 아이디어를\N기록하기 시작했어요 Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.39,0:02:44.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,설탕에서 시작해 당밀로 넘어갔죠 Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.42,0:02:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,당밀은 설탕 공정에서 나오는 Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.88,0:02:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,부산물이에요 Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.70,0:02:51.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,다른 부산물이\N뭐가 있을까 생각했죠 Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.70,0:02:54.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,끝에 다다라서\N이런 생각이 들었죠 Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.26,0:02:55.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"폐허야!" Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.32,0:02:56.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,이런 생각이 들었죠, Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.47,0:02:57.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"폐허가 되버린 유적지야" Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.62,0:02:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,그렇다고 그냥 폐허를 만들 수도\N없는 노릇이었죠 Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.40,0:03:01.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,설탕의 역사에 관한 Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.54,0:03:03.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,책을 읽던 중에 Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.21,0:03:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,당대인들이 쓰던\N어떤 표현이 눈에 띄었죠 Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.44,0:03:07.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"슈가 서틀티" Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.25,0:03:09.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,그 용어가 맘에 쏙 들었어요 Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.64,0:03:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,여기서 "서틀티"는 Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.56,0:03:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,마지펜 같은\N설탕 반죽으로 만든 Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.32,0:03:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,정교한 당과제품으로 Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.22,0:03:17.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,마지펜, 과일, 견과류로\N만들어졌죠 Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.46,0:03:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,서틀티는 왕족을 그리는데 쓰였고 Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.98,0:03:23.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,그걸 먹을 수 있는 것도 오직 Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.66,0:03:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,왕족, 귀족, 성직자 뿐이었요 Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.62,0:03:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,정묘함을 뜻하는 서틀티를 통해서 Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.15,0:03:32.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,그 자체가 권력이자 Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.12,0:03:33.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,권력을 상징하며\N또, 다양한 주제를 Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.65,0:03:36.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,품을 수 있는 대상을 Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.65,0:03:38.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,창조할 기회였어요 Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.50,0:03:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[워커] 와우! Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.68,0:03:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,이 작품에 끌어오고 싶은 Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.88,0:03:48.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,다양한 아이디어가 Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.24,0:03:50.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,너무도 많아서 씨름했었죠 Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.04,0:03:53.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,이것만으로는 보이지 않았으면\N좋겠다는 게 있나요? Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.50,0:03:56.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,어떻게 대답해야 할지 모르겠네요 [웃음] Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.34,0:03:58.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,나도 이런 게 처음이라서 [웃음] Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.76,0:04:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,나도 별달리 좋은 Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.22,0:04:01.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,의견이 있는 게 아니라구요 Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.94,0:04:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,폐허가 된 유적지에서\N서틀티까지 이르니 Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.28,0:04:06.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,이런 저런 생각이 들었죠 Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.43,0:04:07.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,어떤 모습의 대상일까, Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.74,0:04:11.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,어떤 포즈를 취하고 있을까 등등 Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.07,0:04:14.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,한 걸음 물러서니 Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.12,0:04:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,번쩍! 아이디어가 떠올랐죠 Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.22,0:04:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"그렇다면 스핑크스는 어떨까?" Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.56,0:04:22.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,스핑크스는 띄지 않게\N절묘하잖아요 [웃음] Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.38,0:04:26.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,대표적인 이집트 문명에 속해 Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.59,0:04:28.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,사랑받는 데서 그치는 게 아니라 Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.33,0:04:31.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,스핑크스는 새로운 세계를\N상징하죠 Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.56,0:04:36.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,조각 작품을 한다는 거에 대해\N불안이 컸어요 Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.16,0:04:37.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,내가 잘하는 분야에서 가장 Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.21,0:04:39.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,멀리 떨어진 분야였기 때문에 Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.43,0:04:41.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,조각 과정에서 거리를 뒀죠 Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.22,0:04:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,클레이 모델에서부터 시작했어요 Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.29,0:04:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,그 다음 스캔하고 디지털화해서 Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.20,0:04:56.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,조각 로봇들이 읽을 수 있는\N파일로 만들었죠 Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.14,0:04:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,계속해서 층층이 겹치는 거죠 Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.68,0:05:02.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,흔히들 조각가는 덩어리에서 Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.44,0:05:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[마이클 페라리-폰타나, 조각가] Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.62,0:05:05.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,인물을 해방시키는 거라 하죠 Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.91,0:05:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,저희는 보 와이어를 가지고서 Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.36,0:05:12.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,우리가 원하는\N곡률을 만들기 위해서 Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.39,0:05:17.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,다양한 각도에서 표면 위로\N보 와아이를 움직였죠 Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.74,0:05:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,로봇을 이용해 깎아내는 기술이\N아무리 대단하다한들 Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.96,0:05:23.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,직접 손으로 하는 일은\N꼭 필요해요 Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.77,0:05:24.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,단순히 손을 쓰는 걸 넘어서- Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.99,0:05:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,손을 쓰는 게 다가 아니죠 Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.56,0:05:28.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,어떻게 손을 움직일지\N계산이 필요하죠 Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.46,0:05:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.40,0:05:37.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.38,0:05:39.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.75,0:05:40.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.69,0:05:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.86,0:05:44.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.14,0:05:46.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.100,0:05:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.66,0:05:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.96,0:05:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.92,0:05:55.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.14,0:05:58.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.03,0:05:59.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.67,0:06:00.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.74,0:06:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.68,0:06:04.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.34,0:06:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.60,0:06:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.49,0:06:32.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.100,0:06:33.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.99,0:06:35.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.38,0:06:36.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.92,0:06:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.28,0:06:40.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.98,0:06:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.98,0:07:00.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.81,0:07:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.55,0:07:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.16,0:07:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.13,0:07:22.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.95,0:07:24.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.18,0:07:26.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.55,0:07:28.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.57,0:07:36.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.75,0:07:41.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.24,0:07:43.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.54,0:07:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.22,0:07:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.60,0:07:50.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.37,0:07:54.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.50,0:08:04.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.36,0:08:06.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.85,0:08:08.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.11,0:08:10.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.51,0:08:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.97,0:08:14.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.41,0:08:17.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.55,0:08:20.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.07,0:08:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.60,0:08:30.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.43,0:08:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.48,0:08:37.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.07,0:08:38.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.35,0:08:40.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.12,0:08:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.14,0:08:55.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.79,0:08:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.34,0:09:01.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.41,0:09:03.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.79,0:09:04.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.92,0:09:07.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.33,0:09:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.52,0:09:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,