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Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.47,0:00:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[audio book narration playing from stereo\Nsystem]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.00,0:00:10.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"The artist Mihailov was, as always, at\Nwork when the cards of Count Vronsky and Golenishtchev
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.69,0:00:11.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were brought to him."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.51,0:00:12.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[New York Close Up]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.35,0:00:16.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"In the morning he had been working in his\Nstudio at his big picture."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.26,0:00:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"Never did he work with such fervour and\Nsuccess as when things went ill with him."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.76,0:00:22.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Diana Al-Hadid, Artist]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.36,0:00:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"He was making a sketch for the figure of\Na man in a violent rage."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.12,0:00:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"A sketch had been made before, but he was\Ndissatisfied with it."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.72,0:00:33.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I have to start here.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.98,0:00:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"The paper with the discarded sketch on\Nit was found,"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.77,0:00:38.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["Diana Al-Hadid Plays the Classics"]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.68,0:00:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"But it was dirty, and spotted with candle-grease."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.76,0:00:46.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"Still, he took the sketch, laid it on his\Ntable, and, moving a little away,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.67,0:00:49.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,screwing up his eyes, he fell to gazing at it."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.47,0:00:53.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"All at once he smiled and gesticulated\Ngleefully."
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.76,0:00:56.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love storytelling,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.62,0:00:58.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I love stories,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.12,0:01:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I love novels and characters.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.96,0:01:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, there's a part of me that resists that\Nkind of specificity.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.96,0:01:08.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like to hold back and be more ambiguous.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.97,0:01:11.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think all of my work is kind of like how\NI draw.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.96,0:01:13.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just a lot of build up,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.67,0:01:14.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of little parts,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.67,0:01:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of construction--
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.40,0:01:18.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking away and cutting and adding and pasting
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.92,0:01:21.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bending an morphing something.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.00,0:01:29.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm very physical with my work.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.58,0:01:33.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's mostly driven by temperament.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.06,0:01:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My work isn't really one decision that's stable;
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.55,0:01:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a lot of interwoven and fluctuating decisions.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.74,0:01:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's why it permits me a different kind\Nof brain activity--
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.55,0:01:50.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, I can listen to Anna Karenina and not\Nbe disrupted.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.28,0:01:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[audio book continues]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.06,0:01:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"Chapter 12."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.64,0:01:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"He had positively forgotten that picture\Nhe had painted three years ago."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.47,0:02:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"He had forgotten all the agonies and the\Necstasies he had lived through with that picture"
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.39,0:02:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"when for several months it had been the\None thought haunting him day and night."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.56,0:02:13.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"He had forgotten, as he always forgot,\Nthe pictures he had finished."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.61,0:02:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So much of the visual vocabulary of the sculptures
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.97,0:02:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came from wanting to dissolve the work--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.50,0:02:40.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dissolve as much mass as I could from the\Nobject.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.31,0:02:43.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These drips, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.29,0:02:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These drips that are kind of suspended in\Nisolation.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.98,0:02:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I realized that I had this capacity to\Nmake this surface liquid--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.47,0:02:54.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or to make it kind of seem like it's still\Nmoving--
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.86,0:02:57.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I thought, "Whoa, that's an opportunity
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.28,0:03:00.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to really think about image building with this material."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.24,0:03:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[audio book continues]
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.84,0:03:09.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"The figure from a lifeless imagined thing had become living, and such that it could never be changed."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.56,0:03:13.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"That figure lived, and was clearly and\Nunmistakably defined."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.58,0:03:23.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With every project, I'm kind of asking,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.23,0:03:28.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"How can I re-think this process that I've\Nbecome familiar with?"
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.92,0:03:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, when the images all kind of, let's say,\Nglued up together--
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.68,0:03:34.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it's all set and ready and dry and we\Ncan take it off,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.87,0:03:38.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we peel it off the wall and it pops off.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.72,0:03:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those become dimensional things.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.72,0:03:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's actually such a textured process.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.46,0:03:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't really know how people read it; but, it's not an image anymore, it's an object.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.40,0:04:00.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[audio book continues]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.34,0:04:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"He did not believe that his picture was\Nbetter than all the pictures of Raphael,"
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.48,0:04:08.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"but he knew that what he tried to convey\Nin that picture,"
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.57,0:04:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"no one ever had conveyed."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.12,0:04:18.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,--"But other people’s criticisms, whatever they might be, had yet immense consequence in his eyes."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.28,0:04:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes when people know the source material,\Nthey're like,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.12,0:04:25.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Ah, that's what that means!"
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.69,0:04:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or, "That must have this, kind of, you know,\N'A-plus-B-equals' significance."
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.08,0:04:35.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I want to slow down the interpretation\Na little bit.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.40,0:04:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not having grown up in a Christian home,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.13,0:04:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't always know the, kind of, biblical story\Nabout those paintings.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.74,0:04:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It feels like they're so generous,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.22,0:04:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so they allow anyone to take from them.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.02,0:04:49.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's part of my history--
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.61,0:04:52.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's part of everyone's history.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.92,0:04:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[OHWOW Gallery, Los Angeles]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.44,0:04:57.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Diana Al-Hadid: "Ground and Figures"]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.09,0:05:00.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I kind of just steal the compositions--
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.41,0:05:03.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, the bare, skeletal, faintest...
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.19,0:05:04.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I obliterate everything else.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.84,0:05:06.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The details are gone.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.53,0:05:08.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing is stable.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.34,0:05:11.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything is moving and dripping and messy.