[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.40,0:00:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Nando] My name s Nando Parrado. Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.92,0:00:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was one of the 16 survivors of flight 571, Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.11,0:00:46.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which crashed in the Andes mountains on Friday the 13th of October of 1972. Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.76,0:00:49.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We knew a plane cannot fly that close to the mountains, Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.33,0:00:52.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I looked towards my mother and that was the moment of impact. Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.37,0:00:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.44,0:01:01.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was in a very deep coma. Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.37,0:01:09.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you wake up very slowly, and I woke up in hell. Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.01,0:01:13.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We waited for a rescue, but it didn't come. Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.51,0:01:21.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our plane that crashes in the middle of the mountains in the snow season there is no way people can survive. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.53,0:01:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And after a week, after ten days, after three weeks, after a month, after two months -- Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.86,0:01:30.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who would believe there was people alive. Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.62,0:01:37.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The decision of eating the dead bodies of our friends started to creap into our minds at the same time. Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.59,0:01:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We all had the same fear -- the same lack of hope -- the same confirmation that we were dead. Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.20,0:01:48.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I decided that I was going to die, but I was gong to die trying. Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.87,0:02:26.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.91,0:02:30.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Initially, the trip was planned for four days. Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.42,0:02:34.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We would leave on Thursday, and we would come back on Monday morning. Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.95,0:02:35.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are young. Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.100,0:02:37.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't have that much money, Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.49,0:02:42.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the easiest way and the cheapest one was the charter an air force plane. Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.79,0:02:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The night before the plane left for Santiago, Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.28,0:02:51.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the captian of the team told us that there was ten seats available on the airplane, Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.43,0:02:56.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if anybody wanted to bring family or friends, they could go for free. Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.35,0:02:59.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I jumped from my seat and I phoned my mother. Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.18,0:03:02.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Mom, prepare a bag, you are going to Chile tomorrow." Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.20,0:03:07.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And tell Susie -- Susie was my sister -- that she was going too. Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.73,0:03:15.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Susie was 17-years-old, I remember, and she always was running around my rugby teammates, Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.40,0:03:21.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because, you know, rugby players -- that's how simply they happened. Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.73,0:03:23.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.74,0:03:26.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to give them a present of love to invite them to go to Chile with us. Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.14,0:03:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would shop and have a nice time. Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.36,0:03:30.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We would come back on Monday, Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.70,0:03:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it never happened like that. Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.08,0:03:36.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.31,0:03:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We left on Thursday, Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.06,0:03:42.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when the plane came close to the Andes the weather was not good, Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.79,0:03:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it had to land in Mendoza. Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.20,0:03:47.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last seat in Argentina before the Andes, Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.56,0:03:53.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we had to wait for the weather to be better so that the plane could cross. Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.70,0:03:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we had to sleep in Mendoza that night. Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.56,0:03:58.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the next morning we went to the airport, Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.58,0:04:01.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we boarded the plane, Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.91,0:04:06.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we left finally on Friday morning for Santiago. Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.79,0:04:11.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.62,0:04:16.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing made us think or believe that something terrible was going to happen. Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.60,0:04:18.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Friday the 13th. Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.35,0:04:20.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not a superstitious person, Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.59,0:04:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I don't care about that, but I didn't know Friday the 13th, and I would crash on that day. Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.70,0:04:30.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.74,0:04:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, some guys think about it and some guys don't. Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.00,0:04:39.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously, the pilot didn't think about it too much. Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.31,0:04:44.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How could a pilot make such a big mistake -- a pilot with experience. Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.75,0:04:50.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Male Speaker] The captain on this flight was a Uruguayan Air Force colonel, Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.50,0:04:54.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that implies that he was an experienced pilot. Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.50,0:04:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that he had 29 crossings of the Andes, Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.80,0:04:58.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a lot. Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.62,0:05:03.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, his total time -- his total flight experience was in the range of 5,200 hours. Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.78,0:05:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In today's standards, 5,200 hours is not a lot of time. Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.24,0:05:13.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Col Enrique Crosa] The training by the crew was done acording to international standards. Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.03,0:05:20.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was in a good condition to fly that plane without any problems. Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.78,0:05:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Male Speaker] The Fairchild had a max gross takeoff weight of 45,000 pounds, Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.28,0:05:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and carried anywhere between 45 and 50 passengers. Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.20,0:05:34.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The engines that it had were two Rolls Royce Dart 7 engines, Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.50,0:05:39.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are approximately 1,725 shaft horse power each Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.65,0:05:42.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The aircraft struggled because it was under powered. Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.68,0:05:44.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We pretty much referred to it as a lead sled. Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.95,0:05:51.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.87,0:05:56.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of the 78 Fairchild 227's built 23 crashed, Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.05,0:06:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there were a total of 393 fatalities. Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.40,0:06:03.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A third of them have been involved in accidents, Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.78,0:06:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which equtes to not a very good safety record. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.16,0:06:12.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Nando] At the time, we didn't know that the safety record of that model was absolutely horrible. Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.50,0:06:16.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Had we known that, we would have never got into that airplane. Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.03,0:06:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.82,0:06:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After takeoff from Mendoza, the captain elected to fly south and make a turn towards the Planchon Pass, Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.82,0:06:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the reason he elected to do this is Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.62,0:06:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he could fly the aircraft through a pass and at a lower altitude. Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.16,0:06:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If he had led to stricly go over the Andes, Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.50,0:06:42.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he would have had to go a lot higher, Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.07,0:06:44.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which would have been a lot more stressful on this aircraft. Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.73,0:06:48.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has a hard enough time getting up to 1,500 to 1,600 feet, Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.45,0:06:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let alone what it needed to get over the Andes without going through a pass. Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.95,0:06:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Male Speaker] The Andes Mountains rise so abruptly that they create very serious storms. Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.06,0:07:04.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the jet stream is coming from the Pacific, all this moist air gets funneled by the mountains. Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.86,0:07:08.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That speeds up winds and creates precipitation -- Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.83,0:07:16.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creates clouds, so the storms that can be formed by the Andes can be very fierce. Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.03,0:07:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.84,0:07:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was a team of friends -- a team of young people flying to have a fantastic fun weekend. Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.75,0:07:30.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the mood in the airplane was absolutely happy. Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.78,0:07:33.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember people laughing -- people talking. Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.17,0:07:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know sitting, kneeling down on the seats, and looking back and talking with the guys. Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.27,0:07:41.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Gustavo] We were all singing. Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.39,0:07:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were all super happy, throwing the ball from one side to the other. Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.48,0:07:48.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was quite a fun atmosphere. Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.51,0:07:51.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Nado] Initially, I sat on the window, Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.42,0:07:54.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but Ponchito was my best friend. Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.61,0:07:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was like my brother, Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.48,0:07:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said, "You have been for a long time on the window let me look down. Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.76,0:08:02.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is easier for me if I'm on the window to look out," Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.38,0:08:04.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we changed seats. Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.46,0:08:05.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He sat on the window, Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.93,0:08:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I sat on the isle. Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.16,0:08:12.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's one of those moments in life that without thinking that Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.84,0:08:18.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would decide who would live and who would die. Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.94,0:08:20.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Male Speaker] There was a cloud cover on the mountains, Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.93,0:08:23.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they had to cross the Andes, Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.37,0:08:30.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they radio Santiago and they want permission to turn north, Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.68,0:08:32.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they fly it north to Santiago. Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.93,0:08:45.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.40,0:08:50.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Male Speaker] The Fairchild was expectd to arrive at Curico at 3:33 p.m., Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.20,0:08:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but reported that it was over Curico at 3:24. Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.54,0:08:57.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That distance is usually covered in 11 minutes, Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.10,0:09:00.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they reported that they covered it in 3 minutes. Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.50,0:09:03.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Surely, the plane was still in the middle of the mountains. Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.43,0:09:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Male Speaker] So, the pilot's obviously made a mistake at some point in calculation. Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.12,0:09:10.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's actually they are right in the middle of the range, Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.79,0:09:12.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are thinking they are already past it. Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.76,0:09:19.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He makes the unexplained and catastrophic decision of turning north into the Andes. Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.34,0:09:22.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This changes the fate of all the passengers on the plane. Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.93,0:09:25.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Roberto Canessa] So, he decided to descend, Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.87,0:09:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as it was all covered by clouds, Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.92,0:09:34.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he didn't see that the mountains were under the clouds. Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.04,0:09:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Male Speaker] When a pilot gets into a position where he is not where expects to be, Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.68,0:09:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or not where he thinks he is, Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.22,0:09:45.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to get out of that situation, Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.09,0:09:48.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he has to convince himself that he's made a mistake, Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.09,0:09:51.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's a different mindset. Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.12,0:09:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to now think, "I've made a mistake. How am I going to get out of this. Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.72,0:09:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Col Enrique] The cause of the accident was clearly human error. Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.14,0:10:04.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fault of the crew. Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.100,0:10:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Nado] We started to get into some light -- Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.14,0:10:09.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not very heavy turbulance. Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.48,0:10:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The plane started to shake a little. Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.59,0:10:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Carlitos] The flight attendant came out into the cabin and said, Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.76,0:10:19.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Put your seat belts on because the plane is going to dance a little bit." Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.59,0:10:24.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.36,0:10:27.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Nado] And then we got into a little bit heavier turbulence, Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.01,0:10:29.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the move changed a little bit. Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.65,0:10:31.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody was throwing balls. Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.51,0:10:35.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, everybody was sitting on the seat with the seat belt fastened. Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.54,0:10:37.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Male Speaker] They head down through the clouds, Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.25,0:10:39.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they think they are descending into Chile. Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.37,0:10:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, of course, as you get closer to the mountains, Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.52,0:10:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is the turbulence of all the wind currents that the mountains create. Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.06,0:10:56.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, they start shaking. Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.13,0:10:59.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They come from off the cloud cover, Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.51,0:11:05.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and realize that they are completely surrounded by rocks and mountains. Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.57,0:11:07.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Male Speaker] It was a feeling of fear, Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.37,0:11:10.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the fear transformed into panic. Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.09,0:11:12.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We felt the acceleration of the engine. Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.01,0:11:15.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.91,0:11:20.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Nado] I only had abut five or six or seven seconds to understand that there was something wrong. Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.51,0:11:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That we were going to crash. Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.72,0:11:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.50,0:11:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last image that I had is the top of the airplane -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.60,0:11:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the roof over my head opened and I died. Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.76,0:12:12.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.73,0:12:16.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Male Speaker] The plane begins sliding down at a tremendous speed, Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.29,0:12:19.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was waiting for it to slam against the mountain, Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.47,0:12:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it stopped. Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.44,0:12:25.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.19,0:12:27.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when it stopped, I thought "I'm alive." Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.85,0:12:33.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.47,0:12:36.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Male Speaker] I stood in the impact site and realized that there is a saddle there. Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.59,0:12:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The pilots must have seen that saddle and gone for it to try to overcome the mountains. Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.83,0:12:48.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A little to the left or a little to the right they would have hit cliffs and the plane would have disintegrated. Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.31,0:12:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Male Speaker] It was an extraordinary piece of luck, Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.04,0:12:54.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say, that the plane didn't disintegrate all together when it hit the mountain. Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.55,0:12:56.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Really it clipped off the back of it, Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.36,0:12:59.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then the front tobogganed down the mountain. Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.96,0:13:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was astonishing. Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.60,0:13:07.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The fuselage ended up landing on this very steep gully. Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.72,0:13:10.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was all covered in snow, luckily for them, Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.75,0:13:14.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which allowed the fuselage to slide down, Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.13,0:13:18.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make a couple turns that are just the natural fall line, Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.51,0:13:20.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and lead them all the way to the bottom of the glacier. Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.37,0:13:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is and extremely lucky situation. Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.72,0:13:28.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Male Speaker] I think one must be careful when one uses the word miraculous. Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.63,0:13:30.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, you've got to think of the people who didn't make it, Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.68,0:13:32.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who died, and who were eaten. Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.85,0:13:38.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean it obviously wasn't miraculous to the parents of those boys. Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.69,0:13:42.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Male Speaker] This is one of the seat arm rests, Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.36,0:13:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I found it high on the mountain. Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.16,0:13:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This belonged, obviously to one of the seats that flew out the back of the fuselage. Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.27,0:13:53.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.56,0:14:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was, obviously, very chilling to think of somebody was riding on that seat. Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.86,0:14:04.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a testament to a very tragic moment. Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.71,0:14:24.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.37,0:14:26.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Male Speaker] None of us were familiar with snow. Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.83,0:14:28.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were like little boys. Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.79,0:14:31.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Uruguay, the maximum amount of is 500 meters, Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.63,0:14:34.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we knew nothing. Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.63,0:14:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a disaster: Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.57,0:14:41.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dead people, injured people, people with broken legs. Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.17,0:14:43.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Immediately after the plane crashed, Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.55,0:14:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we went about attending to the wounded. Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.55,0:14:47.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went over to Nando's mother, Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.05,0:14:49.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I touched her, and she was dead. Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.48,0:14:55.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> She was like wrapped around a seat in a position that I was sure that she was not alive. Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.86,0:14:59.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Nando's condition for us was a dead body. Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.49,0:15:05.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> He had flown from the back seat to the front seat, Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.87,0:15:08.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and his face was very swollen, Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.19,0:15:12.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I could barely know who he was. Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.15,0:15:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.94,0:15:29.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Male Speaker] The co-pilot was in a lot of pain. Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.86,0:15:31.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He asked us to bring him the revolver in order to kill himself because he was suffering so much. Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.26,0:15:36.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Someone said that he was alive, Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.91,0:15:41.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I realized that he was the key man that could tell us where we were -- Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.29,0:15:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what was our location. Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.64,0:15:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was completely trapped. Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.40,0:15:45.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was impossible to get him out. Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.25,0:15:48.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Before the pilot dies, Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.10,0:15:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they hear him saying, "We passed Curico." Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.58,0:15:51.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We passed Curico." Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.31,0:15:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The pilot was in shock. Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.72,0:15:55.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He probably realized that he had made a mistake, Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.38,0:15:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he's telling -- "But how can this be?" Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.52,0:15:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I remember very vividly that he said, Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.64,0:16:00.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We passed Curico." Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.55,0:16:02.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We passed Curico." Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.23,0:16:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was a map there, Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.56,0:16:04.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we begin looking at the map, Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.74,0:16:07.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Curico was on the Chilean side very clearly. Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.82,0:16:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The survivors are thinking, Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.04,0:16:13.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is the only reliable information we have from somebody who is supposed to know about this. Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.63,0:16:17.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, if we passed Curico, Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.25,0:16:19.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that means we are on the western edge of the Andes. Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.80,0:16:33.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.33,0:16:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> You find yourself in a glaciated valley at 12,000 feet in the middle of the Andes. Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.27,0:16:41.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's still today a very remote place. Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.43,0:16:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It's like stepping into a giant freezer -- Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.88,0:16:50.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this valley surrounded by peaks on three sides and kind of open to the east. Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.26,0:16:56.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mountains around you are peaks that are 14, 15, 16 thousand feet high. Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.89,0:16:59.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To the east you have a volcano that's 18,000 feet -- Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.03,0:17:04.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very sheer, steep. Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.78,0:17:10.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This party immediately had to protect themselves from the elements, Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.75,0:17:14.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or all of them may not have survived the first night or two, Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.20,0:17:18.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they were put instantly into a very high altitude environment Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.14,0:17:22.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where now they have to start, very quickly adjusting to the elevation. Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.53,0:17:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The first night was horrible Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.80,0:17:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the sun set at 4 in the afternoon, Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.52,0:17:31.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we had to wait about 15 hours for the sun to come up again. Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.77,0:17:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> They quickly had to decide how they were going to survive the first night. Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.33,0:17:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sharing warmth amongst themselves was probably the most important thing that they could have done. Dialogue: 0,0:17:42.74,0:18:01.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.99,0:18:05.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> You're in this expectation that you're going to be rescued, Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.40,0:18:07.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and hopes are high. Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.21,0:18:10.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you are going to do everything you can to survive those first few days Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.100,0:18:14.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until the helicopters come over the mountain and pick you up. Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.03,0:18:16.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then they don't Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.34,0:18:22.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.10,0:18:24.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the friends around you die. Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.77,0:18:38.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.53,0:18:42.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> After the plane crashed and we didn't have any food, Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.49,0:18:48.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we shared a few little cups of liquor, some little chocolates, and that was all we had. Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.77,0:19:11.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.77,0:19:13.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We had some little chocolates, Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.31,0:19:19.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that was all we had. Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.35,0:19:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.68,0:19:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Male Speaker] Nando? Nando? Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.58,0:19:24.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> When a person who had an accident like what Nando had, Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.84,0:19:27.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the treatment we would do nowadays in the 21st Century is actually what nature did to Nando, Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.13,0:19:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with total serendipity in 1972. Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.96,0:19:30.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was recently proven that low temperature that is hypothermia Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.94,0:19:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is one of the only effective neuro protectants that is something to protect an injured brain. Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.92,0:19:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fact that Nando was considered dead and was put with the seriously ill and dead bodies Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.38,0:19:48.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,close to the entrance and coldest part of the fuselage Dialogue: 0,0:19:48.50,0:19:54.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably exerted a significantly protective effect of his injured brain. Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.34,0:20:00.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Based on a great paradox, the accident itself is what probably kept Nando alive. Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.67,0:20:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Nando] The first things that I started seeing were the eyes and the faces of my friends Dialogue: 0,0:20:04.96,0:20:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who were very close to me looking to me and speaking, Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.86,0:20:10.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Nando, we crashed." Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.28,0:20:11.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Can you hear me?" Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.30,0:20:12.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Can you listen?" Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.75,0:20:14.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Can you hear?" Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.13,0:20:16.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We crashed." Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.14,0:20:23.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I remember Nando saying the first words and asking about his mother and his sister. Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.76,0:20:26.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Nando] They said your mother is dead and Susie is wounded. Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.100,0:20:28.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's hurt. Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.86,0:20:32.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mind discarded, in that moment, my mother. Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.41,0:20:33.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean she's dead. Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.31,0:20:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't do anything for her. Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.72,0:20:37.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I focused on my sister, Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.14,0:20:39.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I crawled to where she was. Dialogue: 0,0:20:39.71,0:20:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> He was very devoted to her and was trying to do his best, Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.74,0:20:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it was very difficult. Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.12,0:20:53.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.23,0:20:55.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Nando] The first time I got of there, Dialogue: 0,0:20:55.38,0:21:03.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was shocked at the sheer majesty and sight of the place where we were. Dialogue: 0,0:21:03.66,0:21:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything was white, white, white, white. Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.84,0:21:09.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was cold, and it was huge in sight. Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.51,0:21:13.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.75,0:21:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At an altitude of 11, 12, 14 thousand feet, Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.02,0:21:20.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is absolutely nothing. Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.18,0:21:23.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is ice, snow, and black rocks. Dialogue: 0,0:21:23.29,0:21:24.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's all. Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.37,0:21:30.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's nothing that can provide any sort of food or nutrition -- Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.34,0:21:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing -- absolutely nothing. Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.60,0:21:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously, we waited for a rescue from the first, second, third, fourth day, Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.08,0:21:40.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it didn't come. Dialogue: 0,0:21:40.44,0:21:43.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We arrived in Chile, Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.95,0:21:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they divided the search area between the Chilean Air Force, the Argentine Air Force, and us Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.22,0:21:54.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we performed a series of flights over the Andes from north to south. Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.38,0:21:57.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was something we had never done before, Dialogue: 0,0:21:57.48,0:22:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we saw absolutely nothing. Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.19,0:22:13.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.94,0:22:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It would be a little crazy to assume that your son had survived. Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.42,0:22:22.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An important thing for me was the search. Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.93,0:22:26.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It was very sad. Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.04,0:22:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The stage we lived through. Dialogue: 0,0:22:30.04,0:22:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We didn't know anything. Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.37,0:22:41.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was one of those that finally believed that none had survived the Andes. Dialogue: 0,0:22:41.31,0:22:44.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> My heart told me that they were dead. Dialogue: 0,0:22:44.68,0:22:49.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.35,0:22:53.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Nando] The last hours that I spent with my sister, Susie, Dialogue: 0,0:22:53.65,0:22:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the only thing I could do was to hold her. Dialogue: 0,0:22:56.98,0:22:57.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We didn't have any medicines. Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.80,0:23:00.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We didn't have anything. Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.23,0:23:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was very badly hurt, injured internally. Dialogue: 0,0:23:04.20,0:23:07.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I stayed with her the whole night, Dialogue: 0,0:23:07.73,0:23:11.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think that she was aware that I was there. Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.46,0:23:13.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She couldn't speak. Dialogue: 0,0:23:13.87,0:23:17.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She only looked at me with her beautiful eyes, Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.77,0:23:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she died in my arms that night. Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.64,0:23:26.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.76,0:23:31.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At least I'm happy that she passed away with me, Dialogue: 0,0:23:31.34,0:23:34.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, not alone. Dialogue: 0,0:23:34.51,0:23:50.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.73,0:23:54.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The real hope died on the 10th day Dialogue: 0,0:23:54.67,0:23:58.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we listened on the small transistor radio that we had Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.07,0:24:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the rescue had been abandoned. Dialogue: 0,0:24:01.68,0:24:07.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And before the 10th day we had these games of hope, Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.45,0:24:11.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after that hope was not existent -- Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.49,0:24:15.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hope only prolonged our suffering. Dialogue: 0,0:24:15.89,0:24:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The hope absolutely went away. Dialogue: 0,0:24:19.00,0:24:23.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.24,0:24:27.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I said Nando, "There isn't anything left in the storage compartments," Dialogue: 0,0:24:27.79,0:24:31.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we kept the chocolates and the can of sardines we had. Dialogue: 0,0:24:31.01,0:24:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Nando looked me in the eyes and said, Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.92,0:24:38.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Carliots, I want to eat the pilot." Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.03,0:24:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:24:54.27,0:24:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The struggle to survive was so strong, Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.80,0:25:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the fear and the waiting for the helicopters, Dialogue: 0,0:25:01.19,0:25:03.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and fighting the fear and the stress, Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.86,0:25:07.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and helping other guys. Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.31,0:25:09.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Days went by, Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.25,0:25:13.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I never felt pain in my stomach or anything like that. Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.18,0:25:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was hungry, but I don't remember having any pain. Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.62,0:25:19.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> When people are in a starvation mode, Dialogue: 0,0:25:19.14,0:25:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what happens is we start taking all our food supplies from our liver. Dialogue: 0,0:25:24.40,0:25:27.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next thing to go is typically muscle. Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.07,0:25:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then our adipose tissue -- or fatty tissue, Dialogue: 0,0:25:29.80,0:25:33.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we start digesting our internal organs. Dialogue: 0,0:25:33.01,0:25:35.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's really what happens as people starve. Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.93,0:25:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had to have a food source. Dialogue: 0,0:25:38.56,0:25:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They could only survive a few days without water. Dialogue: 0,0:25:40.56,0:25:43.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had kind of solved that problem. Dialogue: 0,0:25:43.26,0:25:49.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.71,0:25:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you can only survive in that kind of environment from days to weeks without some kind of food. Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.68,0:25:59.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> When you're abandoned, Dialogue: 0,0:25:59.17,0:26:00.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is nothing at that altitude. Dialogue: 0,0:26:00.59,0:26:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are looking to any item that could be available. Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.58,0:26:09.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we had read so many times about history, Dialogue: 0,0:26:09.37,0:26:11.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and explorers who were without food, Dialogue: 0,0:26:11.32,0:26:16.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they tried to eat thier shoes and thier suitcases and leather straps, Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.06,0:26:17.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we tried. Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.76,0:26:19.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We tasted. Dialogue: 0,0:26:19.71,0:26:24.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We tasted pieces of leather from suitcases. Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.34,0:26:26.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would do much more harm, Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.92,0:26:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so there was absolutely nothing. Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.64,0:26:32.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You cannot eat that foam from the cushions. Dialogue: 0,0:26:32.59,0:26:35.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You cannot eat plastic. Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.97,0:26:39.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When rescue was abandoned, Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.03,0:26:41.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know that you have to eat. Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.26,0:26:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The chocolates are gone. Dialogue: 0,0:26:43.52,0:26:45.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you want to survive -- Dialogue: 0,0:26:45.73,0:26:48.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the survival instinct is probably the strongest instinct in any human being. Dialogue: 0,0:26:48.45,0:26:53.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It brings you to a different state of mind. Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.89,0:26:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.82,0:26:58.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The decision of eating the dead bodies of our friends, Dialogue: 0,0:26:58.39,0:27:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started to creep into our minds at the same time. Dialogue: 0,0:27:00.72,0:27:03.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we all had the same fear -- Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.99,0:27:06.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same lack of hope -- the same confirmation Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.85,0:27:08.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we were dead. Dialogue: 0,0:27:08.67,0:27:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were condemned. Dialogue: 0,0:27:10.78,0:27:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No rescue. Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.59,0:27:14.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were abandoned to our own luck. Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.95,0:27:17.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the same day, three or four or five guys started to speak about the same thing. Dialogue: 0,0:27:17.33,0:27:19.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I spoke it was Carlito. Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.29,0:27:22.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't remember if I was the first one or not, Dialogue: 0,0:27:22.09,0:27:25.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you know five, six hours later everybody was speaking about the same subject. Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.23,0:27:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I said, "Adolpho, Nando is crazy. He wants to eat the pilot." Dialogue: 0,0:27:31.80,0:27:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Adolfo told me, "He's not that crazy." Dialogue: 0,0:27:32.30,0:27:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"My cousins and I have already been thinking about that." Dialogue: 0,0:27:37.92,0:27:41.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It was very difficult to accept this idea. Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.57,0:27:44.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was in the mind of many of us. Dialogue: 0,0:27:44.67,0:27:46.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want to live, Dialogue: 0,0:27:46.44,0:27:50.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the only way was to eat the bodies of our friends. Dialogue: 0,0:27:50.45,0:27:57.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> One of the things that was used to persuade some of those reluctant to eat the dead bodies Dialogue: 0,0:27:57.49,0:27:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was the comparison of the Eucharist. Dialogue: 0,0:27:59.44,0:28:03.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Catholic Eucharist where Christ's body was turned into bread, Dialogue: 0,0:28:03.22,0:28:06.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you eat the bread. Dialogue: 0,0:28:06.66,0:28:12.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was sort of an analogy that helped some of the doubters, if you like, to eat human flesh. Dialogue: 0,0:28:12.53,0:28:19.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The survivors only had a screwdriver and an ax that was on the plane. Dialogue: 0,0:28:19.09,0:28:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, they had to make more tools. Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.04,0:28:29.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of the tools that they made were knives that were made out of plastic of the windows. Dialogue: 0,0:28:29.69,0:28:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In February 2005, we had the luck to find one of these -- one of the knives they made. Dialogue: 0,0:28:35.82,0:28:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reason why they need a knife was to cut meat. Dialogue: 0,0:28:38.84,0:28:42.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was obviously used for that. Dialogue: 0,0:28:42.30,0:28:44.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:28:44.26,0:28:48.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It was sharpened or cut with the ax. Dialogue: 0,0:28:48.43,0:28:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It's terrible to invade someone else, Dialogue: 0,0:28:51.24,0:28:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to take advantage of someone that is dead. Dialogue: 0,0:28:54.75,0:28:56.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only reason that I did it is Dialogue: 0,0:28:56.90,0:29:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I thought that if I had died I would be very proud to be a part of the project of life. Dialogue: 0,0:29:02.64,0:29:09.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:29:09.61,0:29:12.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Nando] It's hard to put yourself in that situation, Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.81,0:29:16.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but being there you had been one of us. Dialogue: 0,0:29:16.37,0:29:18.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is only one option. Dialogue: 0,0:29:18.70,0:29:25.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The decision comes quite easy. Dialogue: 0,0:29:25.70,0:29:26.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Think about it. Dialogue: 0,0:29:26.54,0:29:30.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every individual in that group had to look down Dialogue: 0,0:29:30.02,0:29:32.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see little pieces of protein -- Dialogue: 0,0:29:32.38,0:29:35.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little pieces of fat, and when they bring it up to their mouth, Dialogue: 0,0:29:35.94,0:29:38.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's their mind telling them? Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.33,0:29:42.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For some it's going to be, "Oh my god. This was my friend." Dialogue: 0,0:29:42.33,0:29:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This was someone in seat 3B." Dialogue: 0,0:29:45.12,0:29:47.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And others when they consumed it, Dialogue: 0,0:29:47.89,0:29:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all of a sudden the body responded in a favorable way, Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.02,0:29:53.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they felt some strength -- Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.43,0:29:55.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe some flow of energy back in the body. Dialogue: 0,0:29:55.85,0:30:00.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was a glimmer of hope to where they can survive and be rescued. Dialogue: 0,0:30:00.03,0:30:10.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:30:10.12,0:30:13.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> From a religious point of view for me, Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.02,0:30:15.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it wasn't a sin. Dialogue: 0,0:30:15.21,0:30:19.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I understood that a body that was there before the worms ate it Dialogue: 0,0:30:19.16,0:30:21.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could be utilized by us. Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.25,0:30:25.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me that didn't affect me then, Dialogue: 0,0:30:25.15,0:30:26.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it doesn't affect me now. Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.55,0:30:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> From the medical point of view, Dialogue: 0,0:30:29.02,0:30:31.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's fat. Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.29,0:30:33.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's lipids. Dialogue: 0,0:30:33.13,0:30:34.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's carbohydrates, and a source of energy. Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.92,0:30:38.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no doubt about it. Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.03,0:30:40.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> For them, trying different parts of the body -- Dialogue: 0,0:30:40.71,0:30:45.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating organs that are more rich in vitamins was essential for the nutrition. Dialogue: 0,0:30:45.19,0:30:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was something that their bodies were craving. Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.89,0:30:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When they would try something different, Dialogue: 0,0:30:48.70,0:30:50.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it would taste good because the body is telling them, Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.65,0:30:54.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Yes, you need more vitamins. You need this" Dialogue: 0,0:30:54.44,0:30:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Any different flavor was something that was highly welcomed. Dialogue: 0,0:30:57.64,0:31:06.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that is how they ended up eating everything -- almost every part of the body. Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.88,0:31:10.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> People used the term "cannibalism" for their food source. Dialogue: 0,0:31:10.89,0:31:13.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I actually consider it survival food. Dialogue: 0,0:31:13.41,0:31:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They did what they had to do. Dialogue: 0,0:31:15.04,0:31:21.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've read, and I've seen our story described as cannibalism, Dialogue: 0,0:31:21.53,0:31:23.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I think is wrong. Dialogue: 0,0:31:23.66,0:31:26.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cannibalism is when you kill to eat. Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.27,0:31:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean ancient warriors killed the enemy tribes and then they eat the dead, Dialogue: 0,0:31:31.48,0:31:36.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it had a lot of tribal and spiritual meanings also. Dialogue: 0,0:31:36.38,0:31:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In our case, I think the terminology we should use is anthropophagy. Dialogue: 0,0:31:41.02,0:31:45.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:31:45.74,0:31:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's just terminology. Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.52,0:31:51.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:31:51.23,0:31:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We made a pact, and we did what people do now. Dialogue: 0,0:31:54.32,0:31:58.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People give blood to friends -- to family members. Dialogue: 0,0:31:58.55,0:32:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They make organ transplants. Dialogue: 0,0:32:02.98,0:32:04.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we made a pact. Dialogue: 0,0:32:04.31,0:32:08.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We said okay hand in hand. Dialogue: 0,0:32:08.56,0:32:13.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I die please use my body, so at least one of us can get out of here. Dialogue: 0,0:32:13.60,0:32:19.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a human being, you would see and do things so horrible you cannot even start to imagine, Dialogue: 0,0:32:19.18,0:32:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but things get worse. Dialogue: 0,0:32:25.32,0:32:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> What the survivors didn't' realize was that this place was a time bomb. Dialogue: 0,0:32:25.32,0:32:38.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:32:38.67,0:32:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Where the fuselage was was a place that gets regularly hit by avalanches. Dialogue: 0,0:32:44.94,0:32:49.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was just a matter of time before an avalanche would come down. Dialogue: 0,0:32:49.57,0:32:56.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody in the plane hand any experience with glaciers, with avalanches, with snow. Dialogue: 0,0:32:56.33,0:32:58.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's one of the tragedies of this situation. Dialogue: 0,0:32:58.74,0:33:07.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:33:07.80,0:33:13.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Avalanches have been known to move reinforced concrete buildings off their foundations. Dialogue: 0,0:33:13.37,0:33:16.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They've taken trains off the train tracks. Dialogue: 0,0:33:16.45,0:33:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have taken steel bridges and blown them apart, Dialogue: 0,0:33:20.64,0:33:26.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that there is an enormous amount of impact pressure behind avalanches. Dialogue: 0,0:33:26.03,0:33:27.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:33:27.71,0:33:30.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Nando] You're at the worst thing that can happen in your life. Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.73,0:33:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean we were stranded in the Andes, Dialogue: 0,0:33:33.57,0:33:36.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surviving in the worst way a human being can survive. Dialogue: 0,0:33:36.01,0:33:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> For three consecutive days it snowed, Dialogue: 0,0:33:38.78,0:33:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and snowed, and snowed. Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.96,0:33:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were totally enclosed in the plane surrounded by snow. Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.64,0:33:47.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Surviving in that way, two and a half weeks after the plane crashed, Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.79,0:33:51.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at night in complete darkness. Dialogue: 0,0:33:51.30,0:33:54.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We heard a distant sound. Dialogue: 0,0:33:54.08,0:33:57.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I heard some people describe an avalanche when it started as a large boom -- Dialogue: 0,0:33:57.61,0:34:02.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like a sonic boom from an airplane, as the avalanche failed on its weak layer. Dialogue: 0,0:34:02.85,0:34:05.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes they make hissing noises. Dialogue: 0,0:34:05.18,0:34:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes they are absolutely quiet, Dialogue: 0,0:34:07.54,0:34:12.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you don't even know that they are coming down the mountain until they actually strike you. Dialogue: 0,0:34:12.23,0:34:17.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Very quickly we felt something like the sound of a pack of horses charging at us -- Dialogue: 0,0:34:17.01,0:34:19.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coming from above. Dialogue: 0,0:34:19.34,0:34:23.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It was something so lightningly fast. Dialogue: 0,0:34:23.68,0:34:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:34:25.74,0:34:28.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I heard a sound, and I looked to my right, Dialogue: 0,0:34:28.79,0:34:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and at that moment the avalanche hit the airplane. Dialogue: 0,0:34:31.96,0:34:36.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:34:36.01,0:34:38.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The avalanche came down off the mountain. Dialogue: 0,0:34:38.91,0:34:42.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It went right in the open end of the fuselage, Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.42,0:34:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blowing out the wall that they had built to help protect them, and buried all the people inside. Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.29,0:34:51.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Two seconds later, I was completely buried by the avalanche. Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.06,0:34:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Quickly tons of snow got inside the fuselage and buried us completely. Dialogue: 0,0:34:56.40,0:34:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I was trapped completely by the avalanche, Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.78,0:35:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was the most deadly silence you may imagine. Dialogue: 0,0:35:02.76,0:35:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I couldn't move. Dialogue: 0,0:35:05.02,0:35:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> You are stuck in this contorted position. Dialogue: 0,0:35:08.12,0:35:10.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You could be bent backwards with your heels against your head. Dialogue: 0,0:35:10.46,0:35:14.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You could be in a position where the pain is just unendurable, Dialogue: 0,0:35:14.82,0:35:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yet you can't breathe anymore either. Dialogue: 0,0:35:17.99,0:35:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It can be a horrible, horrible way to die. Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.92,0:35:24.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I felt I was dying, and then a smile came to my face. Dialogue: 0,0:35:24.05,0:35:28.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realized that everything was over. Dialogue: 0,0:35:28.11,0:35:32.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> You can only survive three minutes without oxygen. Dialogue: 0,0:35:32.49,0:35:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you don't have adequate oxygen to breathe, Dialogue: 0,0:35:34.76,0:35:38.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you will die in that three to four minute time frame. Dialogue: 0,0:35:38.19,0:35:43.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Probably somewhere around 75% of people that are buried in avalanches die from asphyxiation. Dialogue: 0,0:35:43.93,0:35:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Roy hardly managed to get out, Dialogue: 0,0:35:46.82,0:35:49.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I got out. Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.50,0:35:52.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first thing that we wanted to do was dig our friends out. Dialogue: 0,0:35:52.93,0:35:57.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Diego Storm, Nicolich, but when I got to them, they were both dead. Dialogue: 0,0:35:57.66,0:36:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It must have been an incredible panic situation. Dialogue: 0,0:36:00.20,0:36:01.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Now what do I do?" Dialogue: 0,0:36:01.79,0:36:04.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What do I do?" Dialogue: 0,0:36:04.91,0:36:07.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are all in this confined space, Dialogue: 0,0:36:07.83,0:36:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but as soon as you move snow, Dialogue: 0,0:36:10.36,0:36:13.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're piling it on top of other people, Dialogue: 0,0:36:13.58,0:36:16.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because everybody is packed in so tight. Dialogue: 0,0:36:16.80,0:36:19.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We continued looking for people, uncovering what we could. Dialogue: 0,0:36:19.90,0:36:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I opened up my eyes, and I realized that I was alive and they dug me out. Dialogue: 0,0:36:22.48,0:36:24.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Roy Harley took all the snow from my face. Dialogue: 0,0:36:24.94,0:36:28.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> And I remember looking for the only woman that was alive at the time, Dialogue: 0,0:36:28.09,0:36:30.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was Liliana Methol. Dialogue: 0,0:36:30.35,0:36:33.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Looking for her, I found the head of Nando Parrado, Dialogue: 0,0:36:33.65,0:36:36.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he managed to survive. Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.28,0:36:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> This avalanche killed eight of us, you know. Dialogue: 0,0:36:39.99,0:36:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eight of our guys were killed by that avalanche. Dialogue: 0,0:36:43.10,0:36:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:36:52.99,0:36:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It was just another brutal blow -- Dialogue: 0,0:36:54.30,0:36:57.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as if things couldn't get any worse. Dialogue: 0,0:36:57.16,0:37:01.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The avalanche comes and kills eight of them at that point, Dialogue: 0,0:37:01.46,0:37:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's hard to imagine, I think, Dialogue: 0,0:37:03.44,0:37:06.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're trapped in this little space. Dialogue: 0,0:37:06.66,0:37:09.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The avalanche has completely covered the plane. Dialogue: 0,0:37:09.10,0:37:15.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no light, and now they have a little space and a little bit oxygen to survive on, Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.53,0:37:17.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're on top of their dead friends -- Dialogue: 0,0:37:17.70,0:37:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ones that were just alive instance before. Dialogue: 0,0:37:21.22,0:37:24.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to have to survive three days in something like that, Dialogue: 0,0:37:24.20,0:37:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think, is just one of the most horrible circumstances you can even imagine. Dialogue: 0,0:37:32.50,0:37:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Our first concern was to be buried like a submarine without power in the bottom of the ocean. Dialogue: 0,0:37:40.82,0:37:42.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, we have water on top. Dialogue: 0,0:37:42.99,0:37:44.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do we get out of there. Dialogue: 0,0:37:44.29,0:37:47.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, also, we had air. Dialogue: 0,0:37:47.53,0:37:50.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we said, "Okay, don't move too much." Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.76,0:37:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Breathe slowly." Dialogue: 0,0:37:52.52,0:37:55.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because we didn't know if we had air. Dialogue: 0,0:37:55.65,0:37:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of the guys said, "What does it matter?" Dialogue: 0,0:37:58.96,0:38:01.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"There is air nowhere." Dialogue: 0,0:38:01.23,0:38:02.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We are buried." Dialogue: 0,0:38:02.68,0:38:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We are dead." Dialogue: 0,0:38:05.02,0:38:09.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"If we get out of this burial of this fuselage, we will be on the same situation that we were before." Dialogue: 0,0:38:09.62,0:38:13.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- stranded, lost in the middle of the Andes. Dialogue: 0,0:38:13.46,0:38:18.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody is looking for us. Dialogue: 0,0:38:18.23,0:38:19.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't have any food. Dialogue: 0,0:38:19.72,0:38:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't have water. Dialogue: 0,0:38:20.88,0:38:22.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are cold. Dialogue: 0,0:38:22.14,0:38:23.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will die anyway. Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.35,0:38:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are already buried. Dialogue: 0,0:38:24.78,0:38:25.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's stay here. Dialogue: 0,0:38:25.71,0:38:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Now they have to eat from their very own friends that were right there. Dialogue: 0,0:38:28.97,0:38:29.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even worse. Dialogue: 0,0:38:29.95,0:38:30.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This story of survival has so many extreme moments. Dialogue: 0,0:38:30.68,0:38:30.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:38:30.77,0:38:32.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I think that the human spirit is stronger than reality sometimes, Dialogue: 0,0:38:32.94,0:38:33.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we asked ourselves "What are we doing?" Dialogue: 0,0:38:33.83,0:38:35.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At least we are breathing. Dialogue: 0,0:38:35.14,0:38:36.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if we are breathing, we are alive. Dialogue: 0,0:38:36.69,0:38:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's fight until we stop breathing. Dialogue: 0,0:38:46.94,0:38:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:38:48.70,0:38:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found one of the posts that you tie straps to hold the luggage, Dialogue: 0,0:38:54.30,0:38:57.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there was one of these poles in the floor. Dialogue: 0,0:38:57.42,0:39:06.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I used it to make a hole in the top of the fuselage so that air would come in. Dialogue: 0,0:39:06.45,0:39:13.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always think that if the avalanche hadn't happened, we wouldn't have survived. Dialogue: 0,0:39:13.34,0:39:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And people say, "Why?" Dialogue: 0,0:39:15.55,0:39:21.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I look back and I say, "Well, first the avalanche covered the airplane, Dialogue: 0,0:39:21.96,0:39:24.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all the blizzards and all the storms went over. Dialogue: 0,0:39:24.42,0:39:28.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we were not hit directly by the storms. Dialogue: 0,0:39:28.67,0:39:35.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, secondly, we could wait there one and a half more months because we had eight more bodies. Dialogue: 0,0:39:35.17,0:39:38.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's very hard to think about that, Dialogue: 0,0:39:38.77,0:39:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's a reality. Dialogue: 0,0:39:40.64,0:39:47.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:39:47.48,0:39:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was terrified. Dialogue: 0,0:39:49.12,0:39:50.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't know what to do. Dialogue: 0,0:39:50.42,0:39:52.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just followed my heart -- my intuition. Dialogue: 0,0:39:52.37,0:39:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to go back to my father, Dialogue: 0,0:39:54.06,0:40:00.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I didn't take into account all the risks that those things involved. Dialogue: 0,0:40:00.10,0:40:03.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Had we known what we were going to face, Dialogue: 0,0:40:03.27,0:40:05.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we would never have started. Dialogue: 0,0:40:05.94,0:40:18.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:40:18.65,0:40:20.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> As the snow melted around it, Dialogue: 0,0:40:20.18,0:40:22.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it left the fuselage in a bit of -- sort of a pedestal. Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.78,0:40:24.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it was very unstable. Dialogue: 0,0:40:24.65,0:40:27.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact they were afraid that it was going to roll off into a crevice. Dialogue: 0,0:40:27.47,0:40:29.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Over the weeks, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:40:29.63,0:40:35.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they came into a routine of drying out the airplane, and drying out their sleeping pads, Dialogue: 0,0:40:35.48,0:40:38.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and gathering water and gathering food. Dialogue: 0,0:40:38.71,0:40:41.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it comes down, again, to a routine of basics. Dialogue: 0,0:40:41.62,0:40:44.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were in a survival situation. Dialogue: 0,0:40:44.81,0:40:49.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The most secure place on that remote landscape was the fuselage. Dialogue: 0,0:40:49.98,0:40:56.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was like an igloo, and comfort was inside that place. Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.79,0:41:00.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You only got out of there because you had to trek. Dialogue: 0,0:41:00.59,0:41:02.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You had to test things. Dialogue: 0,0:41:02.10,0:41:03.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You had to explore. Dialogue: 0,0:41:03.90,0:41:07.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The Andes are an amazing mountain range. Dialogue: 0,0:41:07.23,0:41:10.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They stretch the whole length of South America. Dialogue: 0,0:41:10.38,0:41:11.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're rugged. Dialogue: 0,0:41:11.73,0:41:13.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're tall. Dialogue: 0,0:41:13.27,0:41:16.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The air is thin in the Andes just like in any other high mountains of the world. Dialogue: 0,0:41:16.85,0:41:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it is a very challenging and difficult range of mountains to try to climb. Dialogue: 0,0:41:22.69,0:41:25.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The first guys who left the airplane for the first time, Dialogue: 0,0:41:25.69,0:41:29.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they just went away like 250 yards from the fuselage, Dialogue: 0,0:41:29.01,0:41:36.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they found it so difficult to walk on deep snow, crevices that they had to return. Dialogue: 0,0:41:36.13,0:41:39.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It was very hard to go out from the plane. Dialogue: 0,0:41:39.31,0:41:44.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was very hard because the plane in some sense would protect you. Dialogue: 0,0:41:44.27,0:41:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went out on three expeditions. Dialogue: 0,0:41:46.94,0:41:48.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went out, I came back -- Dialogue: 0,0:41:48.52,0:41:51.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always trying to look for the tail of the plane. Dialogue: 0,0:41:51.08,0:41:56.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in the last expedition, I remember that I surrendered. Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.06,0:42:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I returned with my eyes mostly blinded -- burned by the snow -- Dialogue: 0,0:42:01.58,0:42:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I didn't have any shades and it loosened up my teeth and my feet were practically gangrene. Dialogue: 0,0:42:08.48,0:42:14.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It was very tough because you felt like an insect against huge forces of nature. Dialogue: 0,0:42:14.06,0:42:18.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It is the story of being easier to die than it is to live. Dialogue: 0,0:42:18.77,0:42:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most attractive option was to die. Dialogue: 0,0:42:21.62,0:42:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Any survival story that you read about, Dialogue: 0,0:42:24.98,0:42:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it's on a desert island or in the middle of the ocean or the mountains, Dialogue: 0,0:42:28.32,0:42:31.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people simply out of desperation improvise, Dialogue: 0,0:42:31.72,0:42:35.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they build and make the things that they need to survive. Dialogue: 0,0:42:35.47,0:42:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:42:41.86,0:42:43.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Once we had created a couple of snow shoes, Dialogue: 0,0:42:43.90,0:42:46.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was elected as the expedition leader Dialogue: 0,0:42:46.93,0:42:51.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of probably my will to get out of there and look for my father and go back to him. Dialogue: 0,0:42:51.53,0:42:55.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Okay, we have to test the equipment." Dialogue: 0,0:42:55.27,0:43:01.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We have to go further down the valley to see how we react ourselves as a team." Dialogue: 0,0:43:01.21,0:43:05.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Nando became the kind of the "head boy." Dialogue: 0,0:43:05.09,0:43:08.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was the sort of -- the younger boys looked up to him. Dialogue: 0,0:43:08.99,0:43:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:43:15.56,0:43:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Roberto, Antonio, and myself we left one morning Dialogue: 0,0:43:18.76,0:43:25.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try to get away as far as we could from the airplane and come back in a day. Dialogue: 0,0:43:25.94,0:43:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a test. Dialogue: 0,0:43:27.20,0:43:30.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was research and development, you could call it. Dialogue: 0,0:43:30.89,0:43:33.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We started to walk down the valley, down the valley, down the valley, Dialogue: 0,0:43:33.74,0:43:39.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and suddenly as soon as we went over a small hill, we saw the tail. Dialogue: 0,0:43:39.86,0:43:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The tail had flown - had been torn from the fuselage and had cartwheeled down the mountain, Dialogue: 0,0:43:45.80,0:43:48.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was in the valley. Dialogue: 0,0:43:48.39,0:43:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were a few suitcases there. Dialogue: 0,0:43:50.44,0:43:53.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And instantly we searched for food. Dialogue: 0,0:43:53.30,0:44:00.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We only found a small box of chocolates and the camera. Dialogue: 0,0:44:00.13,0:44:04.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We also found something that was quite interesting which were the batteries -- Dialogue: 0,0:44:04.74,0:44:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,24 batteries that were installed there at the tail. Dialogue: 0,0:44:09.44,0:44:11.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we said, "Okay, we have batteries." Dialogue: 0,0:44:11.42,0:44:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We have radios in the cockpit." Dialogue: 0,0:44:13.68,0:44:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Maybe we can make these radios work." Dialogue: 0,0:44:17.38,0:44:20.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we decided to spend the night there, Dialogue: 0,0:44:20.07,0:44:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the next day we went all the way up to the fuselage again. Dialogue: 0,0:44:25.90,0:44:30.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we said, "Okay we have to take the radios from the cockpit." Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.34,0:44:35.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Roy helped us as he had assembled a stereo unit in his home. Dialogue: 0,0:44:35.01,0:44:38.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We declared him the radio expert. Dialogue: 0,0:44:38.27,0:44:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know that connecting radio equipment to batteries is not easy. Dialogue: 0,0:44:42.10,0:44:44.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We didn't have the knowledge. Dialogue: 0,0:44:44.26,0:44:49.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And from the back part of the radios bundles of cables came out that we had to cut. Dialogue: 0,0:44:49.43,0:44:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do we connect those cables to the batteries? Dialogue: 0,0:44:52.26,0:44:54.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Impossible. Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.19,0:44:56.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It never worked. Dialogue: 0,0:44:56.44,0:45:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another piece of hope was completely destroyed then. Dialogue: 0,0:45:01.78,0:45:06.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we were very depressed because we had put a lot of hope on the radios working. Dialogue: 0,0:45:06.14,0:45:09.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:45:09.88,0:45:12.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we found the camera on the tail, Dialogue: 0,0:45:12.35,0:45:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember saying, "Okay it has a roll." Dialogue: 0,0:45:15.08,0:45:22.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Let's take pictures because maybe this camera will be found maybe 50, 60, 100 years from now, Dialogue: 0,0:45:22.44,0:45:26.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they will reveal the roll, and they will see that people lived here. Dialogue: 0,0:45:26.49,0:45:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because on our minds we were going to die. Dialogue: 0,0:45:30.32,0:45:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we took photographs. Dialogue: 0,0:45:32.16,0:45:40.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:45:40.55,0:45:45.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> One night Arturo threw something at me, Dialogue: 0,0:45:45.94,0:45:47.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said he was in a lot of pain. Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.99,0:45:51.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I lowered him, and he told me he was dying. Dialogue: 0,0:45:51.55,0:45:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, for about an hour, I started doing CPR. Dialogue: 0,0:45:55.58,0:45:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I stopped, he was acting as if he was going to die, Dialogue: 0,0:45:59.30,0:46:02.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so I continued until finally I told him I couldn't do it anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:46:02.100,0:46:05.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he got really gone, Dialogue: 0,0:46:05.50,0:46:08.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he let go of my hands like this, Dialogue: 0,0:46:08.06,0:46:11.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he died with a look of happiness on his face. Dialogue: 0,0:46:11.85,0:46:22.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:46:22.55,0:46:24.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> In the case of Numa Turcatti, Dialogue: 0,0:46:24.43,0:46:26.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his physical condition told him that he was going to die. Dialogue: 0,0:46:26.99,0:46:28.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was no way out. Dialogue: 0,0:46:28.55,0:46:30.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he did not survive. Dialogue: 0,0:46:30.94,0:46:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We loved him a lot, Dialogue: 0,0:46:32.52,0:46:34.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he never complained. Dialogue: 0,0:46:34.08,0:46:36.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He died weighing 55 pounds. Dialogue: 0,0:46:36.03,0:46:40.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:46:40.86,0:46:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Waiting is horrible at that point when you are condemned to die. Dialogue: 0,0:46:46.28,0:47:04.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:47:04.39,0:47:06.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I kept speaking with Roberto. Dialogue: 0,0:47:06.23,0:47:08.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Roberto, we have to get out of here as soon as we can." Dialogue: 0,0:47:08.26,0:47:12.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We couldn't try to escape to the south because we didn't know where we were going. Dialogue: 0,0:47:12.46,0:47:14.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To the north -- the northern part of South America. Dialogue: 0,0:47:14.91,0:47:17.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For us to the east laid the whole Andes, Dialogue: 0,0:47:17.96,0:47:20.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but to the west was Chile. Dialogue: 0,0:47:20.40,0:47:22.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had to aim to that country. Dialogue: 0,0:47:22.68,0:47:30.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:47:30.27,0:47:32.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The pilot before he died, had said, Dialogue: 0,0:47:32.21,0:47:34.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We've crossed the Andes and Chile is to the west." Dialogue: 0,0:47:34.59,0:47:41.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"To the west is Chile became a kind of slogan that -- a kind of dogma that none of them could doubt. Dialogue: 0,0:47:41.32,0:47:45.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:47:45.94,0:47:47.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We didn't know if we were in Argentina in Chile. Dialogue: 0,0:47:47.86,0:47:52.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We only knew that to the west is Chile because of the sun. Dialogue: 0,0:47:52.63,0:47:55.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We would climb one mountain and from the top, Dialogue: 0,0:47:55.48,0:48:04.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we would see green valleys, lights of a city in the horizon. Dialogue: 0,0:48:04.65,0:48:07.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> To the west, we would be saved. Dialogue: 0,0:48:07.32,0:48:10.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Their information indicated the wise decision was west. Dialogue: 0,0:48:10.93,0:48:14.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They thought over that ridge has got to be the green valleys of Chile. Dialogue: 0,0:48:14.74,0:48:18.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To the east, not only did they think that whole Andes was there, Dialogue: 0,0:48:18.28,0:48:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there's nothing really encouraging for them -- Dialogue: 0,0:48:21.30,0:48:25.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other than the fact that it's downhill. Dialogue: 0,0:48:25.65,0:48:30.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The survivors didn't realize if they would have gone east into that valley, Dialogue: 0,0:48:30.82,0:48:34.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is a hotel 18 miles away from them. Dialogue: 0,0:48:34.11,0:48:49.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:48:49.05,0:48:51.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The hotel is 18 miles away. Dialogue: 0,0:48:51.48,0:48:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a hell of a hike out to get to that point. Dialogue: 0,0:48:57.20,0:49:02.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's on the other side of the river. Dialogue: 0,0:49:02.66,0:49:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is quite a big river. Dialogue: 0,0:49:04.40,0:49:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't really cross it. Dialogue: 0,0:49:05.14,0:49:09.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, most likely, they wouldn't have been able to get to the other side where the hotel was. Dialogue: 0,0:49:09.25,0:49:12.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it's easy to second guess once you know everything else, Dialogue: 0,0:49:12.99,0:49:14.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they didn't. Dialogue: 0,0:49:14.62,0:49:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:49:20.56,0:49:23.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Nando was very desperate to get out of there Dialogue: 0,0:49:23.47,0:49:28.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because he wanted to go back to his father and tell him that not everything was lost. Dialogue: 0,0:49:28.70,0:49:31.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Nando was raring to go. Dialogue: 0,0:49:31.38,0:49:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had this extraordinary determination to leave and get back to his father. Dialogue: 0,0:49:36.00,0:49:39.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I think that he realized that either he got himself out of there, Dialogue: 0,0:49:39.88,0:49:42.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or most likely they were all going to die. Dialogue: 0,0:49:42.76,0:49:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I think the others procrastinated. Dialogue: 0,0:49:44.72,0:49:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They hesitated. Dialogue: 0,0:49:46.38,0:49:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They held him back. Dialogue: 0,0:49:48.02,0:49:49.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They thought the moment wasn't right. Dialogue: 0,0:49:49.23,0:49:51.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They kept putting it off. Dialogue: 0,0:49:51.29,0:49:52.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is difficult to know why. Dialogue: 0,0:49:52.94,0:49:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think partly because they were frightened he might fail. Dialogue: 0,0:49:55.10,0:50:00.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> He needed support, so he asked me to go with him. Dialogue: 0,0:50:00.50,0:50:05.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I saw that in the plane there were lots of people pushing Nando, Dialogue: 0,0:50:05.39,0:50:07.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they wouldn't go with him. Dialogue: 0,0:50:07.13,0:50:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I thought that this was a very coward attitude of supporting someone, Dialogue: 0,0:50:13.76,0:50:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not completely. Dialogue: 0,0:50:17.16,0:50:22.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At that moment I realized that I was the guy that could help Nando. Dialogue: 0,0:50:22.46,0:50:24.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nando said, "Because you see very well." Dialogue: 0,0:50:24.43,0:50:25.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You can handle the maps, and you're a handy man." Dialogue: 0,0:50:25.96,0:50:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"And I want you to go." Dialogue: 0,0:50:28.72,0:50:30.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nando was fit. Dialogue: 0,0:50:30.39,0:50:33.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was fit. Dialogue: 0,0:50:33.20,0:50:37.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The last expedition was made up of Parrado, Canessa, and Vizintin, Dialogue: 0,0:50:37.77,0:50:39.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they had the sleeping bag. Dialogue: 0,0:50:39.57,0:50:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I had the idea that with the insulation, Dialogue: 0,0:50:42.18,0:50:43.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you could make a sleeping bag, Dialogue: 0,0:50:43.88,0:50:45.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I not only had the idea. Dialogue: 0,0:50:45.38,0:50:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made it myself, and it was, without a doubt, Dialogue: 0,0:50:49.92,0:50:51.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the proudest moment of my life. Dialogue: 0,0:50:51.65,0:50:57.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The contribution that I made for that final expedition -- that sleeping bag that I made. Dialogue: 0,0:50:57.16,0:51:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Carlitos with a needle and copper wire sewed those pieces together, Dialogue: 0,0:51:02.98,0:51:10.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we made like a sleeping bag that fundamental to cope with the cold and escape. Dialogue: 0,0:51:10.44,0:51:13.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> When I go on a climb, I have a checklist of equipment -- Dialogue: 0,0:51:13.91,0:51:18.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cold weather gear -- solid, heavy boots, crampons, Dialogue: 0,0:51:18.14,0:51:22.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which attach to the boots, which give me traction in the snow -- Dialogue: 0,0:51:22.41,0:51:30.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ice axes, gloves, hats, insulated clothing, tents, sleeping bags, ropes, anchors. Dialogue: 0,0:51:30.15,0:51:32.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean there's a pile of equipment Dialogue: 0,0:51:32.89,0:51:36.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we really don't ever leave home without when we go into the mountains. Dialogue: 0,0:51:36.100,0:51:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when these guys crashed -- Dialogue: 0,0:51:38.80,0:51:39.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, they were rugby players. Dialogue: 0,0:51:39.81,0:51:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were dressed for summer. Dialogue: 0,0:51:41.92,0:51:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To land in the middle of this arctic wilderness, Dialogue: 0,0:51:44.80,0:51:47.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you might say, with literally nothing, Dialogue: 0,0:51:47.38,0:51:49.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was a pretty amazing feat. Dialogue: 0,0:51:49.73,0:51:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've got to improvise. Dialogue: 0,0:51:50.95,0:51:55.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've got to build and create our own equipment just so that we can get out of here. Dialogue: 0,0:51:55.47,0:51:59.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We had already decided that three of us were going to leave the airplane Dialogue: 0,0:51:59.95,0:52:03.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as soon as we had a window in the weather. Dialogue: 0,0:52:03.26,0:52:06.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Finally, we left on December 12th. Dialogue: 0,0:52:06.83,0:52:07.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:52:07.58,0:52:10.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The three of us. Dialogue: 0,0:52:10.49,0:52:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We left to walk off and Nando returns and he tells me, Dialogue: 0,0:52:12.86,0:52:18.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Carlitos, before leaving I want to give a kiss to your rosary." Dialogue: 0,0:52:18.13,0:52:21.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In exchange for that he gives me a little shoe and he tells me, Dialogue: 0,0:52:21.04,0:52:24.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Carlitos, I promise you that I'm going to come back for this other shoe." Dialogue: 0,0:52:24.56,0:52:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That he was going to come back to reunite the pair. Dialogue: 0,0:52:29.06,0:52:32.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then he adds, "But this is the most important, Dialogue: 0,0:52:32.22,0:52:39.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if this doesn't happen and you need to use my mother and my sister, then do it." Dialogue: 0,0:52:39.70,0:52:43.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was such a great act because he didn't have to give us that authorization, Dialogue: 0,0:52:43.83,0:52:45.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he did. Dialogue: 0,0:52:45.70,0:52:50.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:52:50.28,0:52:55.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> To the west is Chile, and this was the idea which we left the fuselage. Dialogue: 0,0:52:55.54,0:52:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The only certain thing was to the west was Chile. Dialogue: 0,0:52:58.72,0:53:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:53:03.39,0:53:07.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> On the first day we were very optimistic and full of energy. Dialogue: 0,0:53:07.29,0:53:11.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And at the beginning of the day everything is very easy because the snow is very hard. Dialogue: 0,0:53:11.30,0:53:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But as the day passes by the snow begins to melt. Dialogue: 0,0:53:13.56,0:53:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I had never climbed any mountains before, Dialogue: 0,0:53:16.30,0:53:19.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I didn't know what I was doing. Dialogue: 0,0:53:19.73,0:53:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was so strange. Dialogue: 0,0:53:22.23,0:53:26.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At that altitude, you breathe and you get less oxygen. Dialogue: 0,0:53:26.04,0:53:32.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember seeing those films with climbers walking very slowly towards the summit of the mountains. Dialogue: 0,0:53:32.61,0:53:34.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Why don't they walk faster?" Dialogue: 0,0:53:34.88,0:53:38.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I was in the same situation, and I just couldn't move. Dialogue: 0,0:53:38.38,0:53:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You just take five breaths and move one leg and then the other leg and you climb and climb. Dialogue: 0,0:53:46.20,0:53:48.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> When they were confronted with this headwall, Dialogue: 0,0:53:48.23,0:53:53.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they had 2,000 feet of climbing to do at a 45 degree angle, Dialogue: 0,0:53:53.56,0:53:56.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is quite steep. Dialogue: 0,0:53:56.44,0:54:01.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the snow was an impediment to their climbing higher. Dialogue: 0,0:54:01.31,0:54:02.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you can imagine without any skill -- Dialogue: 0,0:54:02.97,0:54:07.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without any training, you are like a child when you are confronted with a snow slope. Dialogue: 0,0:54:07.75,0:54:09.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You try to go straight up. Dialogue: 0,0:54:09.99,0:54:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You might be using your hands and your feet. Dialogue: 0,0:54:12.02,0:54:12.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're slipping. Dialogue: 0,0:54:12.79,0:54:13.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're sliding. Dialogue: 0,0:54:13.79,0:54:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For every step that you go up, you slide back a half a step. Dialogue: 0,0:54:17.99,0:54:20.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It's hard to explain the fear of the unknown. Dialogue: 0,0:54:20.42,0:54:23.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The having no clue what you are getting yourself into. Dialogue: 0,0:54:23.18,0:54:25.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It could be terrifying. Dialogue: 0,0:54:25.31,0:54:28.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even in mountaineering, when we do know what we're up against -- Dialogue: 0,0:54:28.24,0:54:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What the route is. Dialogue: 0,0:54:29.80,0:54:31.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What the summit is. Dialogue: 0,0:54:31.57,0:54:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has been documented and everything. Dialogue: 0,0:54:34.40,0:54:36.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's still intimidating. Dialogue: 0,0:54:36.89,0:54:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I looks like courage. Dialogue: 0,0:54:38.72,0:54:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can tell you it was not courage. Dialogue: 0,0:54:40.82,0:54:41.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was fear. Dialogue: 0,0:54:41.90,0:54:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> And we tried then to climb through the rocky parts instead of the snow, Dialogue: 0,0:54:46.28,0:54:49.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this came unloosed and there were huge rocks coming down. Dialogue: 0,0:54:49.48,0:54:51.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was telling Nando, "We are going to kill ourselves." Dialogue: 0,0:54:51.56,0:54:54.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was telling Nando, "Come down. This is not the way." Dialogue: 0,0:54:54.22,0:55:00.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I was so wasted when we reached one of the false summits. Dialogue: 0,0:55:00.67,0:55:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:55:10.15,0:55:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said there is no more strength in me. Dialogue: 0,0:55:12.22,0:55:14.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Roberto said, "Come on." Dialogue: 0,0:55:14.07,0:55:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Are you breathing?" Dialogue: 0,0:55:15.76,0:55:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You're still breathing." Dialogue: 0,0:55:16.56,0:55:17.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Come on." Dialogue: 0,0:55:17.34,0:55:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You can do It." Dialogue: 0,0:55:18.36,0:55:22.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Okay, I'll keep on going until I stop breathing." Dialogue: 0,0:55:22.82,0:55:24.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was my thought. Dialogue: 0,0:55:24.39,0:55:25.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing more profound. Dialogue: 0,0:55:25.39,0:55:27.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing more critical. Dialogue: 0,0:55:27.100,0:55:28.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm alive. Dialogue: 0,0:55:28.53,0:55:29.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm breathing. Dialogue: 0,0:55:29.42,0:55:31.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll keep on going. Dialogue: 0,0:55:31.25,0:55:33.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> And we put the sleeping bag and the wind come down, Dialogue: 0,0:55:33.89,0:55:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the valley was incredible. Dialogue: 0,0:55:35.78,0:55:37.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was just gorgeous, Dialogue: 0,0:55:37.46,0:55:39.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the moon came down. Dialogue: 0,0:55:39.56,0:55:42.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we had some buns that we had find on the tail of the plane. Dialogue: 0,0:55:42.91,0:55:46.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And taking this run, and I couldn't believe that I was enjoying the scenery, Dialogue: 0,0:55:46.86,0:55:49.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after struggling and crying and weaping. Dialogue: 0,0:55:49.83,0:55:57.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:55:57.28,0:56:01.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> What we were facing after the first day climbing that first mountain, Dialogue: 0,0:56:01.32,0:56:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was not what I expected to find. Dialogue: 0,0:56:04.08,0:56:09.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first day I thought I was going to be in the summit and looking at the green valleys of Chile, Dialogue: 0,0:56:09.81,0:56:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we were half way climb the mountain. Dialogue: 0,0:56:13.48,0:56:15.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It was very disheartening for the first three days, Dialogue: 0,0:56:15.74,0:56:20.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it took them three days to climb up. Dialogue: 0,0:56:20.06,0:56:24.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What they thought would only take one day took three. Dialogue: 0,0:56:24.01,0:56:27.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for three days we saw them as little points up there on the mountain. Dialogue: 0,0:56:27.55,0:56:36.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:56:36.53,0:56:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Roberto was looking in the distance and seeing a line thinking "that could be a road." Dialogue: 0,0:56:40.76,0:56:43.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was impossible for them to tell if it was or not. Dialogue: 0,0:56:43.07,0:56:47.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The road is very interesting because Nando says that the road doesn't exist. Dialogue: 0,0:56:47.91,0:56:54.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the road is there, and I bet everything that I saw that road. Dialogue: 0,0:56:54.17,0:56:58.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We actually know now that what he was looking at was the road. Dialogue: 0,0:56:58.46,0:56:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was there. Dialogue: 0,0:56:59.40,0:57:01.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I took a photograph. Dialogue: 0,0:57:01.29,0:57:08.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I realized that we could actually see the road that we use now from the east to access this valley. Dialogue: 0,0:57:08.09,0:57:12.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> But this is a very interesting because although this was a right answer, Dialogue: 0,0:57:12.90,0:57:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at that moment it was a chance in 1,000 that was a road. Dialogue: 0,0:57:21.52,0:57:23.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> They were in a very tough situation. Dialogue: 0,0:57:23.11,0:57:27.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They had already made a huge effort to get that high on the mountain, Dialogue: 0,0:57:27.49,0:57:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Nando still had the hope that looking over the top of the mountain, Dialogue: 0,0:57:32.11,0:57:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was going to see green valleys and everything. Dialogue: 0,0:57:34.86,0:57:39.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:57:39.92,0:57:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> When I was run down, Nando would say, "Let's keep going." Dialogue: 0,0:57:43.16,0:57:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I would climb the mountain, and I would see salvation on the other side. Dialogue: 0,0:57:49.76,0:57:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when we climbed that first mountain what we saw to the other side really froze me. Dialogue: 0,0:57:56.56,0:58:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:58:06.52,0:58:08.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I couldn't breathe. Dialogue: 0,0:58:08.22,0:58:09.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I couldn't speak. Dialogue: 0,0:58:09.93,0:58:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I couldn't even think because what we saw was horrible. Dialogue: 0,0:58:13.06,0:58:18.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead of green valleys, we saw mountains and snow-covered peaks 360 degrees around us -- Dialogue: 0,0:58:18.95,0:58:22.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the horizon -- all around us. Dialogue: 0,0:58:22.31,0:58:27.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:58:27.73,0:58:31.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I knew that I was really dead. Dialogue: 0,0:58:31.94,0:58:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I decided the way I was going to die. Dialogue: 0,0:58:35.82,0:58:41.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was absolutely no way we could survive what we were looking at. Dialogue: 0,0:58:41.25,0:58:42.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I told Roberto, Dialogue: 0,0:58:42.77,0:58:45.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Look, Roberto, there is no way we can go back." Dialogue: 0,0:58:45.24,0:58:46.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The only way is forward." Dialogue: 0,0:58:46.97,0:58:49.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We'll die, but we'll die trying." Dialogue: 0,0:58:49.26,0:58:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he looked at me, and I said, "Okay, we have done so many things together." Dialogue: 0,0:58:53.14,0:58:55.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Let's do one more." Dialogue: 0,0:58:55.81,0:58:56.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Let's die together." Dialogue: 0,0:58:56.97,0:59:08.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,0:59:08.49,0:59:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> When the three of them Vizintin, Nano, and Roberto got to the top of the mountain Dialogue: 0,0:59:12.85,0:59:17.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and saw there weren't the green valleys of Chile that they always supposed would be on the other Dialogue: 0,0:59:17.73,0:59:19.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,side of the mountain, it was a terrible moment. Dialogue: 0,0:59:19.99,0:59:22.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And psychologically it was a terrible blow. Dialogue: 0,0:59:22.33,0:59:27.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, again, it sort of shows Nando's extraordinary psychological resilience. Dialogue: 0,0:59:27.06,0:59:31.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead of being daunted and depressed and giving up in despair, Dialogue: 0,0:59:31.81,0:59:34.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he just said right, "We are just going to go on." Dialogue: 0,0:59:34.14,0:59:36.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We are going to keep going west." Dialogue: 0,0:59:36.18,0:59:42.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It has been said that hard and tough and challenging situations create character. Dialogue: 0,0:59:42.28,0:59:45.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think they actually reveal character. Dialogue: 0,0:59:45.03,0:59:48.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you're put into a situation -- a desperate situation -- Dialogue: 0,0:59:48.68,0:59:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the tings that you are and learned come out. Dialogue: 0,0:59:54.16,0:59:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Roberto and myself, we got along very, very together. Dialogue: 0,0:59:57.22,0:59:59.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were a fantastic team. Dialogue: 0,0:59:59.54,1:00:03.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I told Roberto, "Look, the three of us move very slowly." Dialogue: 0,1:00:03.33,1:00:05.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we said, "Antonio, please go back." Dialogue: 0,1:00:05.11,1:00:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Give us whatever you have of food." Dialogue: 0,1:00:07.38,1:00:09.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The two of us will go froward." Dialogue: 0,1:00:09.35,1:00:12.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Tell the guys that we'll climb and trek to the west." Dialogue: 0,1:00:12.75,1:00:22.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:00:22.19,1:00:24.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Tintin -- he was delighted. Dialogue: 0,1:00:24.36,1:00:27.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He beetled back down the mountain as quickly as he possibly could, Dialogue: 0,1:00:27.49,1:00:29.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because at least they felt safe in that plane. Dialogue: 0,1:00:29.57,1:00:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, they had survived and would go on surviving. Dialogue: 0,1:00:32.02,1:00:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> After three days, we saw that one of them came down, Dialogue: 0,1:00:35.44,1:00:38.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we went to meet him. Dialogue: 0,1:00:38.58,1:00:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was Vizintin. Dialogue: 0,1:00:40.54,1:00:42.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when we got there, Dialogue: 0,1:00:42.49,1:00:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he told us instead of finding the green valleys of Chile they saw a pathetic and disheartening panorama. Dialogue: 0,1:00:47.20,1:00:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Nando and Roberto made the decision to take Vizintin's food and his extra clothes. Dialogue: 0,1:00:54.32,1:00:59.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they sent him to the fuselage with the message that the two of them would forage ahead. Dialogue: 0,1:00:59.16,1:01:03.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they wouldn't stop until they were dead. Dialogue: 0,1:01:03.87,1:01:07.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> He saw two peaks that had now snow on them. Dialogue: 0,1:01:07.81,1:01:11.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:01:11.45,1:01:12.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And behind those peaks you can see no more peaks, Dialogue: 0,1:01:12.47,1:01:16.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you see the moisture of the Pacific Ocean. Dialogue: 0,1:01:16.74,1:01:19.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you stand there and you look at how far those peaks are, Dialogue: 0,1:01:19.58,1:01:26.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it brings it home what a desperate situation they were in. Dialogue: 0,1:01:26.85,1:01:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> My need to get out was completely unique to me Dialogue: 0,1:01:29.32,1:01:33.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there would be a time when we didn't have more bodies Dialogue: 0,1:01:33.16,1:01:35.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except the bodies of my mother and my sister. Dialogue: 0,1:01:35.46,1:01:40.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I wouldn't even like to think to get to that moment when we would have to use their corpses to survive. Dialogue: 0,1:01:40.74,1:01:44.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to get out of there, Dialogue: 0,1:01:44.91,1:01:48.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we started down the mountains. Dialogue: 0,1:01:48.01,1:01:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was two guys deciding to go forward. Dialogue: 0,1:01:51.84,1:01:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> And I said, "Let's go for it." Dialogue: 0,1:01:53.40,1:01:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Let's forget about it." Dialogue: 0,1:01:56.24,1:02:02.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I knew this was a no return way, but every step is a step. Dialogue: 0,1:02:02.55,1:02:05.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if we had gone back to the plane, Dialogue: 0,1:02:05.59,1:02:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were no chances. Dialogue: 0,1:02:08.46,1:02:13.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I wanted to see what they were up against. Dialogue: 0,1:02:13.80,1:02:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What they had gone through. Dialogue: 0,1:02:15.48,1:02:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just how challenging it was -- especially for a mountaineer. Dialogue: 0,1:02:17.44,1:02:19.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was fascinated by it. Dialogue: 0,1:02:19.70,1:02:22.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in December 2005, we retraced the escape route. Dialogue: 0,1:02:22.71,1:02:28.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We choose the same days that the survivors had gone. Dialogue: 0,1:02:28.14,1:02:30.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We wanted to experience the same snow conditions. Dialogue: 0,1:02:30.89,1:02:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Recreate as much as possible the challenge they had without, of course, killing ourselves. Dialogue: 0,1:02:35.53,1:02:38.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We brought equipment. Dialogue: 0,1:02:38.26,1:02:39.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We came prepared. Dialogue: 0,1:02:39.79,1:02:43.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our plan was to try to set up similar camps to what they had done. Dialogue: 0,1:02:43.19,1:02:45.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As closely as possible. Dialogue: 0,1:02:45.03,1:02:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But once we were on the slope, Dialogue: 0,1:02:46.60,1:02:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the slope was so avalanche prone that the whole slope could go. Dialogue: 0,1:02:50.47,1:02:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You could fall to your death. Dialogue: 0,1:02:52.60,1:02:55.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't like it. Dialogue: 0,1:02:55.67,1:02:58.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought the only thing to do here is just push and to go all the way to the top in one day. Dialogue: 0,1:02:58.38,1:03:01.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once you hit the ridge, you're safe of avalanches. Dialogue: 0,1:03:01.31,1:03:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing is going to fall on you. Dialogue: 0,1:03:03.52,1:03:05.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so it was a brutal day. Dialogue: 0,1:03:05.89,1:03:07.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a really hard day. Dialogue: 0,1:03:07.62,1:03:10.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We pushed really hard and went all the way up. Dialogue: 0,1:03:10.43,1:03:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Basically, covering the distance that Nando and Roberto covered in three days. Dialogue: 0,1:03:13.76,1:03:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was exhausting. Dialogue: 0,1:03:16.22,1:03:21.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you are in the mountains, it is much harder to judge distances and sizes. Dialogue: 0,1:03:21.19,1:03:28.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They valleys they climbed down on are just immense. Dialogue: 0,1:03:28.11,1:03:31.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a picture that we took where you see this little dot. Dialogue: 0,1:03:31.31,1:03:35.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just a black little speck there. Dialogue: 0,1:03:35.45,1:03:38.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's actually Myau, one of our expedition members. Dialogue: 0,1:03:38.35,1:03:42.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once you see that little dot, you realize the size of the valley you're looking at. Dialogue: 0,1:03:42.79,1:03:45.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very, very huge mountains all around you. Dialogue: 0,1:03:45.92,1:03:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is really a very humbling experience. Dialogue: 0,1:03:48.96,1:03:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> What I remember of the ten days with Roberto, Dialogue: 0,1:03:52.92,1:03:58.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like blurred images of continuous and strenuous effort. Dialogue: 0,1:03:58.55,1:04:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was so huge. Dialogue: 0,1:04:01.00,1:04:05.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mountains are so huge that it looks like you don't make any progress. Dialogue: 0,1:04:05.31,1:04:12.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you think, "I'll get there in two or three hours or five hours." Dialogue: 0,1:04:12.15,1:04:14.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it is so huge that you never get there. Dialogue: 0,1:04:14.12,1:04:18.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only way you go forward is because you can't go back. Dialogue: 0,1:04:18.97,1:04:25.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Nando and Roberto as they journeyed out for those ten long, adruous days Dialogue: 0,1:04:25.91,1:04:28.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was an amazing feat, Dialogue: 0,1:04:28.61,1:04:33.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you truly have to think about what they suffered through. Dialogue: 0,1:04:33.47,1:04:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can't explain that. Dialogue: 0,1:04:34.64,1:04:37.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I have an idea of what they went through. Dialogue: 0,1:04:37.98,1:04:39.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it is still quite an amazing feat. Dialogue: 0,1:04:39.56,1:04:45.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I think it was Roberto that said, "One foot on ground and another foot on snow." Dialogue: 0,1:04:45.06,1:04:47.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This is the line between life and death." Dialogue: 0,1:04:47.09,1:04:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'm going to make it." Dialogue: 0,1:04:48.96,1:04:50.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'm not going to die out there like everybody else." Dialogue: 0,1:04:50.89,1:04:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'm going to live." Dialogue: 0,1:04:52.76,1:04:57.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> That line where the ice finished for me was the line between life and death for myself. Dialogue: 0,1:04:57.96,1:05:02.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It was like crossing a very thin line -- Dialogue: 0,1:05:02.30,1:05:04.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,jumping from one side to another one. Dialogue: 0,1:05:04.59,1:05:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were very happy. Dialogue: 0,1:05:06.98,1:05:09.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Now, that the temperatures were warmer, Dialogue: 0,1:05:09.06,1:05:11.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now that they are not in such a danger to freeze, Dialogue: 0,1:05:11.21,1:05:14.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now they don't have refrigeration for their food. Dialogue: 0,1:05:14.45,1:05:17.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so their food starts going rotten. Dialogue: 0,1:05:17.81,1:05:20.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a new problem. Dialogue: 0,1:05:20.15,1:05:34.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:05:34.77,1:05:39.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Nando and Roberto had left the 12th of December 1972. Dialogue: 0,1:05:39.31,1:05:43.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were near losing our hopes. Dialogue: 0,1:05:43.01,1:05:52.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:05:52.07,1:05:55.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The next day we were very happy to see things changing Dialogue: 0,1:05:55.03,1:05:57.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from no more fear of snow, ice, rock, Dialogue: 0,1:05:57.62,1:06:00.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we begin hearing water. Dialogue: 0,1:06:00.19,1:06:01.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was pouring out. Dialogue: 0,1:06:01.75,1:06:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hearing water was going back to normal life. Dialogue: 0,1:06:04.72,1:06:06.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we saw this river. Dialogue: 0,1:06:06.51,1:06:09.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was growing out of the ice. Dialogue: 0,1:06:09.66,1:06:14.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I saw a green spot there. Dialogue: 0,1:06:14.66,1:06:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I had a grasp of life. Dialogue: 0,1:06:17.08,1:06:20.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First when we saw that there was some civilization here -- Dialogue: 0,1:06:20.37,1:06:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We saw a cow. Dialogue: 0,1:06:22.08,1:06:27.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, there must be a human being nearby. Dialogue: 0,1:06:27.02,1:06:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I could see how significant that was for them. Dialogue: 0,1:06:29.58,1:06:31.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you start seeing plants. Dialogue: 0,1:06:31.46,1:06:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You start seeing a little bit of flowers -- living things. Dialogue: 0,1:06:32.83,1:06:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you smell these flowers. Dialogue: 0,1:06:34.74,1:06:37.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You haven't smelled anything like that in so many days. Dialogue: 0,1:06:37.63,1:06:40.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And little grass you can smell. Dialogue: 0,1:06:40.20,1:06:42.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was just like, "Wow!" Dialogue: 0,1:06:42.27,1:06:44.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They talk about starting to find their first signs of civilization, Dialogue: 0,1:06:44.50,1:06:48.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they had a big debate, Nando and Roberto, Dialogue: 0,1:06:48.07,1:06:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as to whether somebody threw it from a plane or something. Dialogue: 0,1:06:50.68,1:06:54.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Roberto told him, "You can't open a window in a plane." Dialogue: 0,1:06:54.23,1:06:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"It obviously didn't come from a plane." Dialogue: 0,1:06:56.45,1:07:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is the science of humans being here. Dialogue: 0,1:07:01.62,1:07:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I was in a five-star hotel. Dialogue: 0,1:07:03.44,1:07:05.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had water. Dialogue: 0,1:07:05.72,1:07:07.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had grass to eat. Dialogue: 0,1:07:07.29,1:07:10.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I realized what simple things we need to be happy. Dialogue: 0,1:07:10.09,1:07:13.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how we demand lots more than what we need in life. Dialogue: 0,1:07:13.39,1:07:40.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:07:40.81,1:07:46.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The precise moment that I really knew that I was going to survive, Dialogue: 0,1:07:46.09,1:07:48.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was looking towards the west, Dialogue: 0,1:07:48.33,1:07:51.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Roberto was looking towards the north. Dialogue: 0,1:07:51.50,1:07:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Roberto said, "Look, Nando, a man on a horse." Dialogue: 0,1:07:54.92,1:07:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I looked and instantly I saw him. Dialogue: 0,1:07:58.65,1:08:12.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:08:12.44,1:08:15.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We started to shout both of us. Dialogue: 0,1:08:15.66,1:08:17.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somebody is looking at us. Dialogue: 0,1:08:17.77,1:08:19.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a human being. Dialogue: 0,1:08:19.86,1:08:21.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We couldn't communicate, Dialogue: 0,1:08:21.73,1:08:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he looked at us because, obviously, Dialogue: 0,1:08:23.80,1:08:25.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he couldn't believe that there were two guys so high up in the mountains. Dialogue: 0,1:08:25.81,1:08:27.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It was very difficult to communicate across this river Dialogue: 0,1:08:27.98,1:08:29.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the noise of this raging river. Dialogue: 0,1:08:29.11,1:08:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't cross it. Dialogue: 0,1:08:31.74,1:08:33.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's just no way. Dialogue: 0,1:08:33.34,1:08:35.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no question. Dialogue: 0,1:08:35.76,1:08:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you get down, it'll take you down and you'll drown. Dialogue: 0,1:08:37.92,1:08:40.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The night came and we lost sight of him. Dialogue: 0,1:08:40.18,1:08:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we spent all that night with Roberto, Dialogue: 0,1:08:42.40,1:08:44.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember, talking and saying, Dialogue: 0,1:08:44.22,1:08:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Okay, look we are near civilization, so maybe tomorrow we'll get help." Dialogue: 0,1:08:47.12,1:08:49.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I feel so happy now." Dialogue: 0,1:08:49.13,1:08:51.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"How do you feel." Dialogue: 0,1:08:51.33,1:08:53.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All those things. Dialogue: 0,1:08:53.36,1:08:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we have to get help for the other guys. Dialogue: 0,1:08:55.50,1:08:59.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next morning at around 5:30, 6:00, Dialogue: 0,1:08:59.78,1:09:01.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we saw a small fire on the shore -- Dialogue: 0,1:09:01.77,1:09:04.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the edge of the river on the other side of the river. Dialogue: 0,1:09:04.98,1:09:07.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was stronger than Roberto, so I went down. Dialogue: 0,1:09:07.45,1:09:12.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The sound of the water was so high that we couldn't understand eachohter. Dialogue: 0,1:09:12.18,1:09:16.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this guy with great intelligence and common sense, Dialogue: 0,1:09:16.49,1:09:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he got a small stone, put a piece of paper around Dialogue: 0,1:09:19.85,1:09:23.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it, tied it with a string, and pencil and threw it across the river. Dialogue: 0,1:09:23.99,1:09:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's when I wrote that message. Dialogue: 0,1:09:26.38,1:09:29.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I come from that plane that fell into the mountains. Dialogue: 0,1:09:29.33,1:09:32.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm Uruguayan. Dialogue: 0,1:09:32.74,1:09:34.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have been walking for ten days. Dialogue: 0,1:09:34.77,1:09:37.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a friend up there that is injured. Dialogue: 0,1:09:37.78,1:09:40.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the plane there is still 14 injured people. Dialogue: 0,1:09:40.19,1:09:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to get out of here quickly, Dialogue: 0,1:09:43.20,1:09:46.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we do not know how. Dialogue: 0,1:09:46.29,1:09:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't have any food. Dialogue: 0,1:09:48.42,1:09:49.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are weak. Dialogue: 0,1:09:49.93,1:09:52.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When are you going to come and fetch us. Dialogue: 0,1:09:52.50,1:09:54.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please, we can't even walk. Dialogue: 0,1:09:54.62,1:09:56.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where are we? Dialogue: 0,1:09:56.77,1:09:58.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me the most important part is the last sentence. Dialogue: 0,1:09:58.77,1:10:00.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Where are we?" Dialogue: 0,1:10:00.100,1:10:03.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We didn't have a clue where we were. Dialogue: 0,1:10:03.14,1:10:05.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We knew we were in the Andes in South America, Dialogue: 0,1:10:05.24,1:10:07.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that was our reference point. Dialogue: 0,1:10:07.30,1:10:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where are we? Dialogue: 0,1:10:09.38,1:10:13.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:10:13.94,1:10:16.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I threw it back to him. Dialogue: 0,1:10:16.02,1:10:18.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He reads it. Dialogue: 0,1:10:18.03,1:10:20.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He looks at me. Dialogue: 0,1:10:20.13,1:10:22.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Reads it again. Dialogue: 0,1:10:22.19,1:10:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says, "Okay, wait, wait." Dialogue: 0,1:10:23.92,1:10:27.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he got on his horse, Dialogue: 0,1:10:27.23,1:10:31.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but before he threw me a little piece of bread and cheese Dialogue: 0,1:10:31.49,1:10:34.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I brought to Roberto. Dialogue: 0,1:10:34.67,1:10:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:10:44.74,1:10:47.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It took him ten hours to go by horseback to the nearest civilization. Dialogue: 0,1:10:47.21,1:10:52.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When he got there, he got five or six military men on horseback from a military post. Dialogue: 0,1:10:52.36,1:10:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he climbed back, and when they come back, Dialogue: 0,1:10:54.82,1:10:58.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were so happy. Dialogue: 0,1:10:58.11,1:11:00.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You were leaving behind horror. Dialogue: 0,1:11:00.54,1:11:03.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You were leaving behind death. Dialogue: 0,1:11:03.66,1:11:06.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you embraced life again. Dialogue: 0,1:11:06.84,1:11:28.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:11:28.19,1:11:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And suddenly reality started to shoot on us, Dialogue: 0,1:11:30.24,1:11:32.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we saw that journalist and news men from nowhere Dialogue: 0,1:11:32.62,1:11:40.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started to appear in the middle of the mountains. Dialogue: 0,1:11:40.61,1:12:24.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Nando lost his family. Dialogue: 0,1:12:24.58,1:12:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think this was very devastating for him. Dialogue: 0,1:12:27.78,1:12:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> They gave us some food. Dialogue: 0,1:12:32.32,1:12:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They gave us warm soup. Dialogue: 0,1:12:33.44,1:12:36.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember and things like that. Dialogue: 0,1:12:36.49,1:12:38.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then they displayed them up, Dialogue: 0,1:12:38.59,1:12:40.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and said, "Where are the other guys?" Dialogue: 0,1:12:40.66,1:12:42.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I draw a circle on the map. Dialogue: 0,1:12:42.81,1:12:44.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they said that's Argentina. Dialogue: 0,1:12:44.87,1:12:47.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You couldn't have crossed the Andes on foot. Dialogue: 0,1:12:47.59,1:12:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Look, I don't know if that's Argentina, but I know that they are there." Dialogue: 0,1:12:50.95,1:12:56.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The distance they covered from where the fuselage was to Los Maitenes Dialogue: 0,1:12:56.21,1:12:59.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was about 37 miles. Dialogue: 0,1:12:59.61,1:13:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We measured it with GPS. Dialogue: 0,1:13:02.08,1:13:07.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problem with that number is that these are really long miles. Dialogue: 0,1:13:07.32,1:13:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> What Nando and Roberto did still kind of blows me away. Dialogue: 0,1:13:12.12,1:13:14.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With literally no training. Dialogue: 0,1:13:14.26,1:13:16.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No skills. Dialogue: 0,1:13:16.36,1:13:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No knowledge of what they were doing and no equipment. Dialogue: 0,1:13:18.50,1:13:21.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Somehow they survived. Dialogue: 0,1:13:21.10,1:13:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I had to retrace the expedition. Dialogue: 0,1:13:23.80,1:13:28.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's just a really inspiring example of the human spirit -- Dialogue: 0,1:13:28.84,1:13:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of what humans can do in extreme conditions when there's that strong will Dialogue: 0,1:13:31.84,1:13:42.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:13:42.69,1:13:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We heard the Uruguayan Ambassador on the radio that it was official. Dialogue: 0,1:13:45.66,1:13:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That Canessa and Parrado had appeared. Dialogue: 0,1:13:48.64,1:13:54.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Imagine that moment -- what it was like to hear the names: Parrado and Canessa. Dialogue: 0,1:13:54.09,1:13:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To hear these names was the end of our story -- the end of our pain. Dialogue: 0,1:13:59.04,1:14:01.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The end of our fight. Dialogue: 0,1:14:01.24,1:14:04.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was the beginning of our freedom. Dialogue: 0,1:14:04.34,1:14:06.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was what we had fought for. Dialogue: 0,1:14:06.27,1:14:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Imagine what that was like? Dialogue: 0,1:14:09.44,1:14:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were like crazy men around the radio. Dialogue: 0,1:14:12.12,1:14:15.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It still gives me goose bumps just thinking about it today -- Dialogue: 0,1:14:15.65,1:14:21.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hundreds of times and 37 years after it happened still it makes me emotional. Dialogue: 0,1:14:21.16,1:14:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:14:26.84,1:14:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> And that's when they called for helicopters. Dialogue: 0,1:14:29.02,1:14:31.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when the helicopters arrived, this thing happened. Dialogue: 0,1:14:31.34,1:14:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where are the guys? Dialogue: 0,1:14:33.55,1:14:35.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I drew the same circle, Dialogue: 0,1:14:35.71,1:14:37.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the pilot looked at me and said, Dialogue: 0,1:14:37.28,1:14:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Look, I will never find them." Dialogue: 0,1:14:39.95,1:14:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You have to come with us." Dialogue: 0,1:14:42.20,1:14:44.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they took me, put me on the helicopter, . Dialogue: 0,1:14:44.30,1:14:47.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strapped me with seat belts, headphones, a microphone, and we took off. Dialogue: 0,1:14:47.97,1:14:52.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:14:52.69,1:14:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The pilot kept telling to me, Dialogue: 0,1:14:55.50,1:14:57.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I don't have enough power." Dialogue: 0,1:14:57.63,1:14:59.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'm too high for this type of helicopter." Dialogue: 0,1:14:59.93,1:15:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Are you sure?" Dialogue: 0,1:15:01.43,1:15:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Are you sure you're not lost?" Dialogue: 0,1:15:04.17,1:15:06.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, I'm not lost. Dialogue: 0,1:15:06.07,1:15:07.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know where I am. Dialogue: 0,1:15:07.74,1:15:09.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember the helicopter shaking, Dialogue: 0,1:15:09.64,1:15:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Plexiglas from the front vibrating. Dialogue: 0,1:15:11.24,1:15:13.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It looked like it was coming off the rivets. Dialogue: 0,1:15:13.01,1:15:14.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The engine of the helicopter was at full power. Dialogue: 0,1:15:14.78,1:15:16.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And finally we crossed over the mountains and then the pilot threw the helicopter down. Dialogue: 0,1:15:16.54,1:15:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Look, it's there." Dialogue: 0,1:15:18.18,1:15:20.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"It's there." Dialogue: 0,1:15:20.02,1:15:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the fuselage was white on white. Dialogue: 0,1:15:21.44,1:15:25.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Until we were about 300 yards away, Dialogue: 0,1:15:25.09,1:15:27.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he couldn't see it. Dialogue: 0,1:15:27.31,1:15:29.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And suddenly he says, "I see." Dialogue: 0,1:15:29.77,1:15:31.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I see." Dialogue: 0,1:15:31.88,1:16:03.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:16:03.59,1:16:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Two of my friends jumped into the helicopter, Dialogue: 0,1:16:28.28,1:16:31.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I grabbed Daniel with my hands, Dialogue: 0,1:16:31.39,1:16:34.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the pilot took off. Dialogue: 0,1:16:34.53,1:16:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "How many do we have?" Dialogue: 0,1:16:36.72,1:16:38.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "three, three." Dialogue: 0,1:16:38.93,1:16:41.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Close the doors." Dialogue: 0,1:16:41.09,1:16:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Close the doors." Dialogue: 0,1:16:43.27,1:16:45.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I went there. Dialogue: 0,1:16:45.33,1:16:47.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I closed the door. Dialogue: 0,1:16:47.34,1:16:49.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I closed the other door. Dialogue: 0,1:16:49.03,1:16:50.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Give me a break, please." Dialogue: 0,1:16:50.97,1:16:53.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:16:53.95,1:16:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These friends of mine embraced me and they were crying and shouting so happy. Dialogue: 0,1:16:55.66,1:16:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I remember those smiles so big. Dialogue: 0,1:16:58.48,1:17:00.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was a wonderful moment, you know. Dialogue: 0,1:17:00.75,1:17:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:17:11.60,1:17:13.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> My father called me, and he was crying. Dialogue: 0,1:17:13.94,1:17:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "Nando is alive." Dialogue: 0,1:17:16.04,1:17:18.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Nando is alive." Dialogue: 0,1:17:18.37,1:17:20.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:17:20.81,1:17:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was sitting in my bed, Dialogue: 0,1:17:23.00,1:17:25.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and hugging me there was my father crying. Dialogue: 0,1:17:25.18,1:17:27.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he was saying, "You were right." Dialogue: 0,1:17:27.38,1:17:29.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"He's alive." Dialogue: 0,1:17:29.77,1:17:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that was the way that I knew that Roberto and Nando had appeared. Dialogue: 0,1:17:34.68,1:17:37.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> They were asking in Uruguay to give forth a list of the survivors. Dialogue: 0,1:17:37.56,1:17:40.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it's for Uruguay, then I can give it to the country. Dialogue: 0,1:17:40.33,1:17:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I went about uncovering the names of the boys. Dialogue: 0,1:17:42.90,1:17:55.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I started Fernando Parrado, Antonio Vizintin, until I came to the name of my son. Dialogue: 0,1:17:55.19,1:18:00.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:18:00.54,1:18:02.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:18:02.94,1:18:05.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's evident that I had to hold the phone down because of all the force of that name, Dialogue: 0,1:18:05.25,1:18:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the surprise and the marvelous feeling of knowing that my son was alive. Dialogue: 0,1:18:08.24,1:18:11.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I got to the door of the this old hospital, Dialogue: 0,1:18:11.06,1:18:14.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was shouting that I wanted to go in. Dialogue: 0,1:18:14.02,1:18:19.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody could stop me. Dialogue: 0,1:18:19.30,1:18:22.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he was very skinny, but so beautiful. Dialogue: 0,1:18:22.70,1:18:27.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he held my father in his arms, Dialogue: 0,1:18:27.33,1:18:29.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he pulled him out of the floor. Dialogue: 0,1:18:29.51,1:18:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was strong. Dialogue: 0,1:18:32.11,1:18:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:18:40.88,1:18:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> People ask me "At that moment did you felt guilt because you were alive?" Dialogue: 0,1:18:43.56,1:18:45.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We celebrated life. Dialogue: 0,1:18:45.86,1:18:48.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We didn't have any guilt. Dialogue: 0,1:18:48.09,1:18:50.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What kind of guilt? Dialogue: 0,1:18:50.43,1:18:59.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:18:59.14,1:19:01.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> An airplane with 45 people aboard -- Dialogue: 0,1:19:01.40,1:19:03.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most of them members of the rugby team from Uruguay crashed on the flight Dialogue: 0,1:19:03.80,1:19:06.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Uruguay crashed on a flight from Montevideo, Uruguay to Santiago, Chile. Dialogue: 0,1:19:06.13,1:19:08.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a search, but it was abandoned several weeks ago. Dialogue: 0,1:19:08.55,1:19:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those mountains are a graveyard for airplanes. Dialogue: 0,1:19:10.81,1:19:12.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is 18,000 feet high. Dialogue: 0,1:19:12.98,1:19:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're icy cold, and continuing snow makes visibility there just about zero. Dialogue: 0,1:19:15.75,1:19:18.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All those aboard were given up for dead. Dialogue: 0,1:19:18.66,1:19:22.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then today the incredible happened. Dialogue: 0,1:19:22.46,1:19:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two starving, exhausted survivors who had hiked for ten days found their way to civilization. Dialogue: 0,1:19:27.46,1:19:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:19:37.84,1:19:40.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I think that the biggest psychiatrist in the world Dialogue: 0,1:19:40.89,1:19:44.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would never find an answer to the human behavior there. Dialogue: 0,1:19:44.85,1:19:48.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Would I have done the same thing? Dialogue: 0,1:19:48.13,1:19:51.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When it came out in American, everyone in New York was saying: Dialogue: 0,1:19:51.35,1:19:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How would I have behaved if I'd been in that situation? Dialogue: 0,1:19:54.82,1:19:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> In Spain, for instance, the first press release had titles such as -- Dialogue: 0,1:19:59.20,1:20:02.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The cannibals have returned." Dialogue: 0,1:20:02.45,1:20:04.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We had survived on the flesh of our friends, Dialogue: 0,1:20:04.97,1:20:09.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we didn't want to hurt any feelings from the families which were our families too. Dialogue: 0,1:20:09.91,1:20:14.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> These survivors in the most appalling conditions didn't turn into savages. Dialogue: 0,1:20:14.91,1:20:19.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They sustained one another. Dialogue: 0,1:20:19.02,1:20:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They kept their faith in god, and god would bring some of them out of it. Dialogue: 0,1:20:24.28,1:20:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it helped them enormously that when they were still in Chile in hospital Dialogue: 0,1:20:31.96,1:20:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a priest came by and said you did the right thing. Dialogue: 0,1:20:36.04,1:20:39.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the Catholic Church immediately said they did the right thing. Dialogue: 0,1:20:39.14,1:20:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The survivors had decided at this point that they wanted a book to be written. Dialogue: 0,1:20:44.58,1:20:50.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they formed a committee to choose the publisher and the author. Dialogue: 0,1:20:50.31,1:20:53.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> They were very afraid of what kind of book would be written. Dialogue: 0,1:20:53.99,1:20:59.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Inevitably, the truth showed that some of the survivors had performed in a heroic manner. Dialogue: 0,1:20:59.53,1:21:03.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And other in a less heroic manner. Dialogue: 0,1:21:03.37,1:21:08.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I felt that there was no point in writing a book unless you were going to tell the truth. Dialogue: 0,1:21:08.01,1:21:13.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The picture of Nando builds up in the book as someone exceptional, Dialogue: 0,1:21:13.24,1:21:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the end a person who saved them all, comes from the other characters. Dialogue: 0,1:21:17.64,1:21:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't come from Nando himself. Dialogue: 0,1:21:20.80,1:21:24.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> It's very strange because we came out of the mountain with a same dreams. Dialogue: 0,1:21:24.11,1:21:27.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had my house, my family, everything. Dialogue: 0,1:21:27.40,1:21:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when he went to his house, his pictures were at the fireplace with the dead members of his family. Dialogue: 0,1:21:36.33,1:21:41.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> My father, being very pragmatic, said, "He's not coming back." Dialogue: 0,1:21:41.13,1:21:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, he gave away my clothes to people, and he sold my motorcycle. Dialogue: 0,1:21:45.20,1:21:52.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he went into a very difficult mental state. Dialogue: 0,1:21:52.32,1:21:55.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> He lovede Dialogue: 0,1:21:55.19,1:21:58.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> He loved my mother and my sister very, very much. Dialogue: 0,1:21:58.61,1:22:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He cried for them until the end of his life. Dialogue: 0,1:22:01.84,1:22:05.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Nando tried to follow the normal dreams of a young guy. Dialogue: 0,1:22:05.39,1:22:09.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was completely lost. Dialogue: 0,1:22:09.33,1:22:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He didn't know what to do or where to go. Dialogue: 0,1:22:12.31,1:22:17.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I don't know if he was tougher when he was out of the mountain, Dialogue: 0,1:22:17.23,1:22:20.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or when he was up there in the mountains. Dialogue: 0,1:22:20.31,1:22:26.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> The Andes made him stronger because he lost his mother and his sister. Dialogue: 0,1:22:26.77,1:22:31.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And later, afterwards, he continued with such an amazing force of will Dialogue: 0,1:22:31.85,1:22:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that really isn't able to be expressed or understood. Dialogue: 0,1:22:37.04,1:22:43.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> When I came back from the Andes I said, Dialogue: 0,1:22:43.29,1:22:45.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Look, what's the most important thing in your life before that?" Dialogue: 0,1:22:45.100,1:22:50.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before the plane crash, my father was the president of the Uruguayan Racing Drivers Association. Dialogue: 0,1:22:50.99,1:22:53.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, he took me to the races since I was very young. Dialogue: 0,1:22:53.59,1:22:55.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I loved the sound, the cards, the racing. Dialogue: 0,1:22:55.99,1:22:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I wanted to race, so I started racing. Dialogue: 0,1:22:58.32,1:23:01.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I thought it was important for me. Dialogue: 0,1:23:01.81,1:23:04.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has nothing to do with the danger, with fear. Dialogue: 0,1:23:04.25,1:23:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, it has to do with what I felt I should do in life. Dialogue: 0,1:23:06.99,1:23:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know maybe I'm going to face some dangerous today. Dialogue: 0,1:23:14.14,1:23:20.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't look back and say, "Well, I had so much fear." Dialogue: 0,1:23:20.23,1:23:22.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I don't want to have fear anymore." Dialogue: 0,1:23:22.59,1:23:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The main reason in my will of going out of there was seeing my family and my father again. Dialogue: 0,1:23:27.64,1:23:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I thought that naming the highest mountain we climbed this name, Dialogue: 0,1:23:34.72,1:23:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was kind of a gift to him. Dialogue: 0,1:23:37.76,1:23:43.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even though he's gone through this tragic event and lost his mother and his sister, Dialogue: 0,1:23:43.72,1:23:49.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he decided that rather than grieve and completely shut down why not revel in life? Dialogue: 0,1:23:49.54,1:23:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why not revel in the fact that I survived this. Dialogue: 0,1:23:53.20,1:23:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if anything I think he kicked it up a notch, Dialogue: 0,1:23:55.80,1:23:58.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and said, "I'm going to take advantage of this life I have, Dialogue: 0,1:23:58.70,1:24:00.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and do the things I love rather than not do anything at all." Dialogue: 0,1:24:00.94,1:24:04.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> And through cars, I found a beautiful girl. Dialogue: 0,1:24:04.09,1:24:06.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I married her. Dialogue: 0,1:24:06.49,1:24:09.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have been married for more than 30 years. Dialogue: 0,1:24:09.72,1:24:12.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was blessed the moment I decided I had to race cars. Dialogue: 0,1:24:12.92,1:24:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Two years ago, we all went to the crash site together. Dialogue: 0,1:24:17.32,1:24:21.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was an incredible experience. Dialogue: 0,1:24:21.89,1:24:28.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that in some sense, it was a way for him to show his daughters where they were born. Dialogue: 0,1:24:28.67,1:24:33.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because had Nando not walked out -- not done what he did, Dialogue: 0,1:24:33.37,1:24:36.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they never would have been born. Dialogue: 0,1:24:36.48,1:24:40.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it was a way of showing them the beginning of their lives. Dialogue: 0,1:24:40.35,1:24:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I have had a fantastic life. Dialogue: 0,1:24:44.94,1:24:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a fantastic family. Dialogue: 0,1:24:47.62,1:24:54.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm doing what I love, which is appreciated in the astonishing fact of being alive. Dialogue: 0,1:24:54.62,1:24:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every day. Dialogue: 0,1:24:57.30,1:24:59.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every single breath. Dialogue: 0,1:24:59.63,1:25:04.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:25:04.10,1:25:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> We went back to Chile with Roberto and Gustavo and our families, Dialogue: 0,1:25:07.68,1:25:13.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we were driving through this dirt roads, climbing the mountains, and suddenly Dialogue: 0,1:25:13.36,1:25:19.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we see a man on a horse coming down the mountain on the side of this small road. Dialogue: 0,1:25:19.88,1:25:22.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we drive past him and it was Sergio. Dialogue: 0,1:25:22.59,1:25:25.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We recognized him. Dialogue: 0,1:25:25.83,1:25:29.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we stopped the car, and Roberto and I run towards him. Dialogue: 0,1:25:29.17,1:25:31.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say, "Hey sir." Dialogue: 0,1:25:31.50,1:25:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Please stop." Dialogue: 0,1:25:34.02,1:25:36.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Stop." Dialogue: 0,1:25:36.34,1:25:38.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"We are lost." Dialogue: 0,1:25:38.24,1:25:40.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Can you help us?" Dialogue: 0,1:25:40.24,1:25:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Can you tell us where we should go to?" Dialogue: 0,1:25:42.20,1:25:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he looked at us and started crying. Dialogue: 0,1:25:44.20,1:25:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have that photograph of Sergio and the two of us. Dialogue: 0,1:25:46.14,1:25:48.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,35 years later we remember him, Dialogue: 0,1:25:48.11,1:25:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and whenever we can we go and visit him. Dialogue: 0,1:25:49.77,1:25:52.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> [Announcer] Ladies and gentleman, please welcome Mr. Nando Parrado. Dialogue: 0,1:25:52.02,1:25:53.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Applause] Dialogue: 0,1:25:53.98,1:26:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Sometimes it's difficult to speak about ones self, you know, Dialogue: 0,1:26:01.86,1:26:06.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's nice to feel that sometimes you can give something back. Dialogue: 0,1:26:06.20,1:26:11.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if I have a message. Dialogue: 0,1:26:11.07,1:26:14.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can share what I feel and what I learned, Dialogue: 0,1:26:14.43,1:26:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what my life has brought me to. Dialogue: 0,1:26:17.04,1:26:19.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's hard sometimes, you know. Dialogue: 0,1:26:19.74,1:26:23.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Life is simpler than than it looks. Dialogue: 0,1:26:23.05,1:26:25.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me love is the most important thing in the world. Dialogue: 0,1:26:25.89,1:26:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The love for our families kept us alive. Dialogue: 0,1:26:28.32,1:26:31.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:26:31.18,1:26:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,, Dialogue: 0,1:26:49.90,1:26:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know I would also like to honor all of the people that were on that plane, Dialogue: 0,1:26:54.35,1:26:57.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because instead of Nando here, Marcelo could be here, Dialogue: 0,1:26:57.25,1:27:02.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Guido, Arturo, Alexis, Gaston. Dialogue: 0,1:27:02.96,1:27:05.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why am I here and not them. Dialogue: 0,1:27:05.97,1:27:08.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's one of the questions we'll never have an answer. Dialogue: 0,1:27:08.49,1:27:11.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say, "Susie, I wish, that you were here." Dialogue: 0,1:27:11.13,1:27:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"That we never would have boarded that airplane." Dialogue: 0,1:27:14.60,1:27:22.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I send you the biggest and warmest embrace I could give where ever you are." Dialogue: 0,1:27:22.09,1:27:24.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And "You are always in my heart." Dialogue: 0,1:27:24.77,1:27:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,