1 00:00:01,929 --> 00:00:04,873 [It's time to start talking about engineering our climate] 2 00:00:04,897 --> 00:00:08,366 What if there was a way to build a thermostat 3 00:00:08,390 --> 00:00:11,133 that allowed you to turn down the temperature of the earth 4 00:00:11,157 --> 00:00:12,424 anytime you wanted? 5 00:00:13,695 --> 00:00:18,085 Now, you would think if somebody had a plausible idea about how to do that, 6 00:00:18,109 --> 00:00:20,363 everybody would be very excited about it, 7 00:00:20,387 --> 00:00:22,982 and there would be lots of research on how to do it. 8 00:00:23,450 --> 00:00:27,958 But in fact, a lot of people do understand how to do that. 9 00:00:28,711 --> 00:00:32,862 But there's not much support for research in this area. 10 00:00:33,444 --> 00:00:35,631 And I think part of it 11 00:00:35,655 --> 00:00:38,664 is because there are some real misunderstandings about it. 12 00:00:39,021 --> 00:00:42,897 So I'm not going to try to convince you today that this is a good idea. 13 00:00:43,863 --> 00:00:48,546 But I am going to try to get your curiosity going about it 14 00:00:48,570 --> 00:00:51,736 and clear up some of the misunderstandings. 15 00:00:52,266 --> 00:00:56,387 So, the basic idea of solar geoengineering 16 00:00:56,411 --> 00:00:59,038 is that we can cool things down 17 00:00:59,062 --> 00:01:01,800 just by reflecting a little bit more sunlight 18 00:01:01,824 --> 00:01:02,978 back into space. 19 00:01:03,728 --> 00:01:09,030 And ideas about how to do this have been around literally for decades. 20 00:01:10,023 --> 00:01:14,482 Clouds are a great way to do that, these low-lying clouds. 21 00:01:14,506 --> 00:01:17,028 Everybody knows it's cooler under a cloud. 22 00:01:17,475 --> 00:01:21,776 I like this cloud because it has exactly the same water content 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,678 as the transparent air around it. 24 00:01:24,093 --> 00:01:28,339 And it just shows that even a little bit of a change in the flow of the air 25 00:01:28,363 --> 00:01:29,780 can cause a cloud to form. 26 00:01:30,482 --> 00:01:33,082 We make artificial clouds all the time. 27 00:01:33,823 --> 00:01:37,180 These are contrails, which are artificial water clouds 28 00:01:37,204 --> 00:01:39,695 that are made by the passing of a jet engine. 29 00:01:40,251 --> 00:01:45,593 And so, we're already changing the clouds on earth. 30 00:01:45,617 --> 00:01:46,934 By accident. 31 00:01:46,958 --> 00:01:51,535 Or, if you like to believe it, by supersecret government conspiracy. 32 00:01:51,559 --> 00:01:53,634 (Laughter) 33 00:01:53,658 --> 00:01:56,783 But we are already doing this quite a lot. 34 00:01:56,807 --> 00:02:00,379 This is a NASA picture of shipping lanes. 35 00:02:00,403 --> 00:02:03,831 Passing ships actually cause clouds to form, 36 00:02:03,855 --> 00:02:05,966 and this is a big enough effect 37 00:02:05,990 --> 00:02:10,988 that it actually helps reduce global warming already by about a degree. 38 00:02:11,513 --> 00:02:14,447 So we already are doing solar engineering. 39 00:02:15,347 --> 00:02:17,394 There's lots of ideas about how to do this. 40 00:02:17,418 --> 00:02:19,398 People have looked at everything, 41 00:02:19,422 --> 00:02:22,846 from building giant parasols out into space 42 00:02:22,870 --> 00:02:25,794 to fizzing bubble waters in the ocean. 43 00:02:26,306 --> 00:02:29,521 And some of these are actually very plausible ideas. 44 00:02:30,656 --> 00:02:35,014 One that was published recently by David Keith at Harvard 45 00:02:35,038 --> 00:02:38,727 is to take chalk and put dust up into the stratosphere, 46 00:02:38,751 --> 00:02:41,012 where it reflects off sunlight. 47 00:02:41,036 --> 00:02:42,489 And that's a really neat idea, 48 00:02:42,513 --> 00:02:45,934 because chalk is one of the most common minerals on earth, 49 00:02:45,958 --> 00:02:49,659 and it's very safe -- it's so safe, we put it into baby food. 50 00:02:50,665 --> 00:02:54,864 And basically, if you throw chalk up into the stratosphere, 51 00:02:54,888 --> 00:02:59,704 it comes down in a couple of years all by itself, dissolved in rainwater. 52 00:03:00,587 --> 00:03:04,714 Now, before you start worrying about all this chalk in your rainwater, 53 00:03:04,738 --> 00:03:08,949 let me explain to you how little of it it actually takes. 54 00:03:09,453 --> 00:03:12,223 And that turns out to be very easy to calculate. 55 00:03:13,118 --> 00:03:15,855 This is a back-of-the-envelope calculation I made. 56 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:17,245 (Laughter) 57 00:03:17,269 --> 00:03:19,459 (Applause) 58 00:03:19,483 --> 00:03:23,951 I assure you, people have done much more careful calculations, 59 00:03:23,975 --> 00:03:25,826 and it comes out with the same answer, 60 00:03:25,850 --> 00:03:31,613 which is that you have to put chalk up at the rate of about 10 teragrams a year 61 00:03:31,637 --> 00:03:35,443 to undo the effects of the CO2 that we've already done -- 62 00:03:35,467 --> 00:03:38,912 just in terms of temperature, not all the effects, but the temperature. 63 00:03:39,339 --> 00:03:41,538 So what does that look like? 64 00:03:41,562 --> 00:03:44,539 I can't visualize 10 teragrams per year. 65 00:03:45,593 --> 00:03:51,799 So I asked the Cambridge Fire Department and Taylor Milsal 66 00:03:51,823 --> 00:03:53,315 to lend me a hand. 67 00:03:54,965 --> 00:03:59,534 This is a hose pumping water at 10 teragrams a year. 68 00:04:00,506 --> 00:04:03,260 And that is how much 69 00:04:03,284 --> 00:04:06,863 you would have to pump into the stratosphere 70 00:04:06,887 --> 00:04:10,728 to cool the earth back down to pre-industrial levels. 71 00:04:11,815 --> 00:04:16,706 And it's amazingly little; it's like one hose for the entire earth. 72 00:04:17,244 --> 00:04:19,489 Now of course, you wouldn't really use a hose, 73 00:04:19,513 --> 00:04:22,021 you'd fly it up in airplanes or something like that. 74 00:04:22,442 --> 00:04:27,537 But it's so little, it would be like putting a handful of chalk 75 00:04:27,561 --> 00:04:30,397 into every Olympic swimming pool full of rain. 76 00:04:30,886 --> 00:04:32,219 It's almost nothing. 77 00:04:33,192 --> 00:04:37,545 So why don't people like this idea? 78 00:04:37,569 --> 00:04:39,291 Why isn't it taken more seriously? 79 00:04:39,315 --> 00:04:42,109 And there are some very good reasons for that. 80 00:04:43,323 --> 00:04:48,372 A lot of people really don't think we should be talking about this at all. 81 00:04:48,396 --> 00:04:52,836 And, in fact, I have some very good friends in the audience 82 00:04:52,860 --> 00:04:54,265 who I respect a lot, 83 00:04:55,130 --> 00:04:58,461 who really don't think I should be talking about this. 84 00:04:59,056 --> 00:05:01,898 And the reason is that they're concerned 85 00:05:01,922 --> 00:05:05,374 that if people imagine there's some easy way out, 86 00:05:05,398 --> 00:05:08,985 that we won't give up our addiction to fossil fuels. 87 00:05:09,553 --> 00:05:11,287 And I do worry about that. 88 00:05:11,871 --> 00:05:14,101 I think it's actually a serious problem. 89 00:05:14,927 --> 00:05:19,914 But there's also, I think, a deeper problem, 90 00:05:20,657 --> 00:05:26,032 which is: nobody likes the idea of messing with the entire earth -- 91 00:05:26,056 --> 00:05:27,256 I certainly don't. 92 00:05:27,779 --> 00:05:30,151 I love this planet, I really do. 93 00:05:30,175 --> 00:05:32,214 And I don't want to mess with it. 94 00:05:32,630 --> 00:05:36,470 But we're already changing our atmosphere, 95 00:05:36,494 --> 00:05:38,049 we're already messing with it. 96 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:45,261 And so I think it makes sense for us to look for ways 97 00:05:45,285 --> 00:05:47,130 to mitigate that impact. 98 00:05:47,519 --> 00:05:49,432 And we need to do research to do that. 99 00:05:49,456 --> 00:05:51,980 We need to understand the science behind that. 100 00:05:52,878 --> 00:05:58,188 I've noticed that there's a theme that's kind of developed at TED, 101 00:05:58,212 --> 00:06:02,552 which is kind of, "fear versus hope," 102 00:06:02,576 --> 00:06:05,971 or "creativity versus caution." 103 00:06:07,026 --> 00:06:09,045 And of course, we need both of those. 104 00:06:09,747 --> 00:06:12,231 So there aren't any silver bullets. 105 00:06:12,255 --> 00:06:14,533 This is certainly not a silver bullet. 106 00:06:16,331 --> 00:06:20,135 But we need science to tell us what our options are; 107 00:06:20,159 --> 00:06:24,474 that informs both our creativity and our caution. 108 00:06:25,293 --> 00:06:29,807 So I am an optimist about our future selves, 109 00:06:30,426 --> 00:06:34,426 but I'm not an optimist because I think our problems are small. 110 00:06:35,204 --> 00:06:41,196 I'm an optimist because I think our capacity to deal with our problems 111 00:06:41,220 --> 00:06:43,353 is much greater than we imagine. 112 00:06:43,859 --> 00:06:45,158 Thank you very much. 113 00:06:45,182 --> 00:06:46,199 (Applause) 114 00:06:46,215 --> 00:06:48,373 This talk sparked a lot of controversy at TED2017, 115 00:06:48,403 --> 00:06:50,453 and we encourage you to look at discussions online 116 00:06:50,483 --> 00:06:51,783 to see other points of view. 117 00:00:00,261 --> 00:00:01,905 [A provocation from Danny Hillis:]