[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.07,0:00:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ALFREDO JAAR: I strongly believe \Nin the power of a single idea. Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.80,0:00:21.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the most difficult thing \Nfor me is to arrive at the… Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.32,0:00:23.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the essence of what you want to say. Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.00,0:00:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when you reach that… Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.12,0:00:27.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that essential idea, it’s… Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.34,0:00:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it’s extraordinary. Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.20,0:00:37.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could say that everything I know about art Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.48,0:00:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I learn it when studying architecture. Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.12,0:00:44.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I approach art as an architect. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.52,0:00:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as an architect I give myself \Na program so this program will… Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.92,0:00:53.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will take into account a space. Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.04,0:00:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Studying that space I...I… Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.00,0:01:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I try to reach what we call \Nthe essence of the space. Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.48,0:01:03.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I combine that essence, Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.76,0:01:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that finding with the essence \Nof what I’m trying to say. Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.12,0:01:16.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every single element has \Nbeen thought of in design. Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.60,0:01:19.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing is arbitrary, absolutely nothing. Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.64,0:01:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The work has been fabricated by engineers or by… Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.32,0:01:28.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by people who have the right skills for \Nthe right installations I’m working with. Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.36,0:01:35.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’m at a point where the most \Nfascinating process for me is just Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.08,0:01:37.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to think, to think, to think and to think. Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.44,0:01:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And uhm, and then to let someone \Nelse execute the project. Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.64,0:01:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have been incapable in my career to ever, Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.56,0:01:56.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever create a single work of art that \Nis just coming from my imagination. Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.20,0:02:03.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My imagination starts working based on research, Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.13,0:02:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,based on a real life event, most of the time \Na tragedy that I’m just starting to analyze, Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.04,0:02:15.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to reflect on it and to...to \Naccumulate information. Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.12,0:02:18.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the original impulse is… Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.16,0:02:22.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is this real life event to \Nwhich I’m trying to respond to. Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.56,0:02:28.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in the case of Rwanda, Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.12,0:02:32.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started following the \Ntragedy from the beginning. Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.76,0:02:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was outraged, how we were told, \Nthis is happening, this is happening. Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.36,0:02:40.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yesterday 35,000 bodies were recovered, Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.28,0:02:45.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were floating on the \NKagera River, 35,000 bodies. Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.44,0:02:49.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was just a five-line story on page 7. Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.68,0:02:55.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So.... So I was following this story \Nand I reached a limit and I thought, Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.48,0:02:57.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well I have to go, I have to go. Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.80,0:03:01.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have.... There is something \NI would like to say about this. Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.80,0:03:04.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then so I just went. Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.60,0:03:08.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was the most horrific \Nexperience in my life. Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.00,0:03:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was getting into huge dilemmas, how… Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.68,0:03:17.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do you present this, respecting the \Ndignity of the people you are focusing on? Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.24,0:03:24.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that’s why THE RWANDA PROJECT lasted six \Nyears and it’s my longest project to date. Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.12,0:03:33.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I end up doing 21 different pieces within \Nthose six years and they all failed. Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.24,0:03:34.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That’s why I kept going, Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.08,0:03:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking for the perfect way to communicate \Nto my audience that experience. Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.80,0:03:44.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course there is no way. Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.88,0:03:54.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is this huge gap between reality \Nand its possible representations. Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.28,0:03:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that gap is impossible to close. Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.00,0:04:02.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So as artists we have to try different \Nstrategies of representation. Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.88,0:04:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And THE SILENCE OF NDUWAYEZU Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.00,0:04:13.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just one more attempt to represent \Na very difficult and tragic situation. Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.12,0:04:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we say a million dead, it’s meaningless. Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.36,0:04:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the...the strategy was to… Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.24,0:04:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to reduce the scale to a single human \Nbeing with a name, with a story. Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.88,0:04:34.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that helps the audience \Nto identify with that person. Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.08,0:04:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this process of identification \Nis...is fundamental to create empathy, Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.60,0:04:45.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to create solidarity, to create \Nintellectual involvement. Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.86,0:04:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The text at the entrance tells you a story. Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.12,0:04:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I visited a refugee camp \Nand Nduwayezu was seated on… Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.92,0:05:03.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the stairs of a door...a school that \Nthey had recreated inside the refugee camp. Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.44,0:05:12.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nduwayezu actually saw with his own eyes his \Nmother and his father killed with machetes. Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.16,0:05:20.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His reaction was to remain silent for \Napproximately four weeks, he couldn’t speak. Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.12,0:05:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, the heart of an exhibition \Nis really the spirit of the artist. Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.36,0:05:35.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The spirit of what he’s trying to communicate. Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.68,0:05:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want people to...to walk in that \Nspace and to feel that they have Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.44,0:05:49.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entered into a model of thinking \Nand of looking at the world. Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.16,0:05:58.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Coming back to...to Chile, \Ncoming back as an artist is… Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.76,0:06:01.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is an incredibly moving experience. Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.42,0:06:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was incredibly moving for me to \Nshare my work for the first time Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.52,0:06:15.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with all of my friends and family. Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.20,0:06:20.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was almost like starting from scratch, Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.40,0:06:23.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they were experiencing \Nit for the first time. Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.12,0:06:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s a very, very emotional \Nsituation, incredibly emotional. Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.80,0:06:39.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At...at the age of five, my father decides to \Nmove to this French island called Martinique. Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.36,0:06:42.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we lived there for ten marvelous years. Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.00,0:06:48.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then at the age of \Nfifteen, my father announces, Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.20,0:06:49.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay, we’re going back. Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.80,0:06:55.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we moved back to Chile which \Nwas during Allende’s period. Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.56,0:07:00.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we arrived in a...in \Na country incredibly divided. Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.24,0:07:11.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’m so obsessed with… Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.88,0:07:16.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with communicating a very specific \Namount of information to the audience. Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.72,0:07:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And uh, one very important \Nelement is the economy of means. Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.48,0:07:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Muxima is divided in ten cantos. Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.80,0:07:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And each canto in itself \Nis...is structured as a haiku, Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.20,0:07:53.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a short Japanese poem. Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.32,0:07:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What, what fascinated me about haikus is the… Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.72,0:08:05.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the capacity for fifteen, seventeen \Nwords to communicate an entire world. Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.72,0:08:12.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My way of thinking is pretty Cartesian \Nand it’s coming from my French education. Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.84,0:08:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’m...I’m very logical. Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.16,0:08:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To make sense for me is… Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.12,0:08:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a very essential aspect of the work. Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.44,0:09:06.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was incredibly shy when I was a kid, Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.16,0:09:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so my father took me to a psychiatrist Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.68,0:09:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the psychiatrist gave him two or three choices\Nto help me to overcome this shyness. Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.68,0:09:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he brought me home a little box of magic. Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.57,0:09:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, and I got into this \Nworld and I became a magician. Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.12,0:09:34.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to be a magician helped \Nme to confront the audience. Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.48,0:09:41.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to do something when they knew that I was \Ntrying to hide something, but they don’t see it. Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.60,0:09:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What they see is the magic. Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.24,0:09:51.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before moving into filmmaking I was \Nan actor and I did a lot of theater. Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.28,0:09:54.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wrote plays and I directed plays. Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.16,0:09:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so when you combine the world of magic, Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.00,0:10:03.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world of theater and so \Nthose two things plus my… Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.76,0:10:07.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my background as an architect, \Neverything is there. Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.56,0:10:12.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, and that mise-en-scène that you \Nsee is really a result of those things. Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.04,0:10:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had forgotten about this stuff. (LAUGHS) Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.00,0:10:29.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it’s important to incorporate a \Nbeauty in the work because it’s part of life. Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.08,0:10:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that doesn’t mean we \Nshould just stay with beauty. Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.28,0:10:40.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we should not be afraid sometimes \Nto confront beauty and horror Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.44,0:10:46.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and LET ONE HUNDRED FLOWERS BLOOM \Nprobably does that in a very direct way. Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.12,0:10:51.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it’s based on a Chinese poem that Mao used to… Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.32,0:10:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to throw a campaign asking intellectuals to Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.92,0:10:57.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,participate in the life of \Nthe revolution in the ‘50s. Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.88,0:11:02.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Let one hundred flowers bloom, let one \Nhundred schools of thought contend.” Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.44,0:11:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After one year, because intellectuals \Nwere suspicious of Mao’s intentions, Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.52,0:11:12.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they finally gave in and \Nthey started speaking out. Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.68,0:11:15.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course they gave great new ideas, Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.28,0:11:19.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they were contrary to \Nthe ideals of the revolution. Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.96,0:11:22.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then their voices were suppressed. Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.18,0:11:31.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So here this piece is standing as a metaphor for \Nthe struggle of intellectuals all over the world. Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.29,0:11:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here we have a hundred flowers being \Nsubmitted to contradictory forces. Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.84,0:11:40.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On one hand they are being \Nfed with water and light Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.40,0:11:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and on the other hand they are being killed \Nby strong industrials winds and strong cold. Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.72,0:11:51.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These flowers will be dying continuously. Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.40,0:11:52.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will keep replacing them. Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.72,0:11:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what connects this particular work \Nthat was shown in Rome for the first time Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.88,0:12:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the Santiago situation is that instead of a \Nvideo that we had in Rome with Gramsci’s grave, Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.44,0:12:09.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here we are opening a window into the Alameda. Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.64,0:12:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are less than a hundred \Nmeters away from the La Moneda, Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.08,0:12:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the presidential palace where our \Nsocialist president, Salvador Allende, Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.56,0:12:22.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was killed during the military \Ncoup by General Pinochet. Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.00,0:12:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This piece is really making a link with \Nthe immediate history of our country. Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.88,0:12:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By opening a little window into this gallery \Nthat happened to be on the Alameda uh, Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.56,0:12:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a world of connection is created. Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.88,0:12:47.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And...and that I think is extraordinary, \Nthe power of art to do those things, Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.08,0:12:51.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to create connections, to make \Nbridges and that fascinates me.