1 00:00:00,346 --> 00:00:02,366 What do you guys think? 2 00:00:02,706 --> 00:00:07,190 For those who watched Shere Khan's memorable TED talk, 3 00:00:07,190 --> 00:00:10,322 I am a typical example of what he describes 4 00:00:10,322 --> 00:00:12,956 as "a body carrying a head," 5 00:00:13,346 --> 00:00:15,737 a university professor, right? 6 00:00:15,737 --> 00:00:19,217 You might think it was not fair 7 00:00:19,217 --> 00:00:22,180 that I've been lined up to speak after these first two talks 8 00:00:22,180 --> 00:00:24,124 to speak about science. 9 00:00:24,774 --> 00:00:28,272 I can't move my body to the beat, 10 00:00:28,272 --> 00:00:31,184 and after a scientist who became a philosopher, 11 00:00:31,184 --> 00:00:33,126 I have to talk about hard science. 12 00:00:33,126 --> 00:00:36,154 It could be a very dry subject. 13 00:00:36,154 --> 00:00:39,679 Yet, I feel honored. 14 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:41,462 Never in my career, 15 00:00:41,462 --> 00:00:43,023 and it's been a long career, 16 00:00:43,023 --> 00:00:45,256 have I had the opportunity to start a talk 17 00:00:45,256 --> 00:00:48,264 feeling so inspired, like this one. 18 00:00:48,264 --> 00:00:52,144 Usually, talking about science 19 00:00:52,144 --> 00:00:55,304 is like exercising in a dry place. 20 00:00:56,284 --> 00:00:59,516 However, I've had the pleasure 21 00:00:59,516 --> 00:01:02,895 of being invited to come here and talk about water. 22 00:01:03,885 --> 00:01:06,768 The words "water" and "dry" do not match, right? 23 00:01:07,426 --> 00:01:10,916 It is even better to talk about water in the Amazon, 24 00:01:10,916 --> 00:01:15,950 which is the splendid cradle of life, right? Fresh life. 25 00:01:15,950 --> 00:01:18,028 So, this is what inspired me. 26 00:01:18,028 --> 00:01:20,230 That's why I'm here, although I'm carrying 27 00:01:20,230 --> 00:01:22,143 my head over here, sort of, 28 00:01:22,143 --> 00:01:26,237 I am trying, or will try to convey this inspiration. 29 00:01:26,237 --> 00:01:30,097 I hope this story will inspire you and that you'll spread the word. 30 00:01:31,317 --> 00:01:35,637 We know that there is controversy. 31 00:01:35,637 --> 00:01:38,160 The Amazon is the "lung of the world," 32 00:01:38,940 --> 00:01:44,426 because of its massive power to have vital gases exchanged 33 00:01:44,426 --> 00:01:46,245 between the forest and the atmosphere. 34 00:01:46,245 --> 00:01:50,345 We also hear about the storehouse of biodiversity. 35 00:01:50,345 --> 00:01:54,651 While many believe it, 36 00:01:54,651 --> 00:01:56,197 few know it. 37 00:01:56,197 --> 00:01:58,075 If you go out there, in that marsh, 38 00:01:58,075 --> 00:02:01,913 you'll be amazed at the... 39 00:02:01,913 --> 00:02:03,957 You can barely see the animals. 40 00:02:03,957 --> 00:02:08,011 The Indians say, "The forest has more eyes than leaves." 41 00:02:08,011 --> 00:02:10,987 That is true, and I will try to show you something. 42 00:02:10,987 --> 00:02:14,168 But today, I'm going to use a different approach, 43 00:02:14,168 --> 00:02:17,188 one that, inspired by these two initiatives here, 44 00:02:17,188 --> 00:02:19,869 a harmonic and a philosophical one, 45 00:02:19,869 --> 00:02:23,998 I'll try to use an approach that's slightly materialistic, 46 00:02:23,998 --> 00:02:27,216 but it also attempts to convey that, in nature, there is 47 00:02:27,216 --> 00:02:30,310 extraordinary philosophy and harmony. 48 00:02:30,310 --> 00:02:32,271 There'll be no music in my presentation, 49 00:02:32,271 --> 00:02:36,494 but I hope you'll all notice the music of the reality I'm going to show you. 50 00:02:36,494 --> 00:02:39,107 I'm going to talk about physiology -- not about lungs, 51 00:02:39,107 --> 00:02:42,635 but other analogies with human physiology, 52 00:02:42,635 --> 00:02:44,744 especially the heart. 53 00:02:44,744 --> 00:02:46,762 We'll start... 54 00:02:49,132 --> 00:02:53,720 by thinking that water is like blood. 55 00:02:54,500 --> 00:02:59,349 The circulation in our body distributes fresh blood, 56 00:02:59,349 --> 00:03:01,959 which feeds, nurtures, and supports us, 57 00:03:01,959 --> 00:03:06,337 and brings the used blood back to be renewed. 58 00:03:06,337 --> 00:03:10,659 In the Amazon, things happen similarly. 59 00:03:10,659 --> 00:03:15,766 We'll start by talking about the power of all these processes. 60 00:03:15,766 --> 00:03:20,387 This is an image 61 00:03:20,387 --> 00:03:23,198 of rain in motion. 62 00:03:23,198 --> 00:03:27,211 What you see there is the years passing in seconds. 63 00:03:27,211 --> 00:03:30,159 Rains all over the world. What do you see? 64 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:32,019 The equatorial region, in general, 65 00:03:32,019 --> 00:03:33,882 and the Amazon specifically, 66 00:03:33,882 --> 00:03:36,751 is extremely important for the world's climate. 67 00:03:36,751 --> 00:03:38,916 It's a powerful engine. 68 00:03:38,916 --> 00:03:44,212 There is an intense evaporation taking place here. 69 00:03:44,212 --> 00:03:46,834 If we take a look at this other image, 70 00:03:46,834 --> 00:03:49,616 which shows the water vapor flow... 71 00:03:49,616 --> 00:03:52,801 you have dry air in black, moist air in grey, 72 00:03:52,801 --> 00:03:54,232 and clouds in white. 73 00:03:54,232 --> 00:03:59,908 What you see there is an extraordinary resurgence in the Amazon. 74 00:03:59,908 --> 00:04:02,031 What phenomenon -- if it's not a desert, 75 00:04:02,031 --> 00:04:07,277 what phenomenon makes water gush from the ground into the atmosphere 76 00:04:07,277 --> 00:04:10,360 with such power that it can be seen from space? 77 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,902 What phenomenon is this? 78 00:04:11,902 --> 00:04:14,770 It could be a geyser. 79 00:04:14,770 --> 00:04:18,558 A geyser is underground water heated by magma, 80 00:04:18,558 --> 00:04:19,998 exploding into the atmosphere 81 00:04:19,998 --> 00:04:23,668 and transferring this water into the atmosphere. 82 00:04:23,668 --> 00:04:26,534 There are no geysers in the Amazon, unless I am wrong. 83 00:04:26,534 --> 00:04:28,502 I don't know of any. 84 00:04:28,502 --> 00:04:32,906 But we have something that plays the same role, 85 00:04:32,906 --> 00:04:36,298 with much more elegance: 86 00:04:36,298 --> 00:04:39,194 the trees, our good old friends, 87 00:04:39,194 --> 00:04:42,008 that, like geysers, 88 00:04:42,008 --> 00:04:47,086 transfer an enormous amount of water from the ground into the atmosphere. 89 00:04:47,086 --> 00:04:52,783 There are 600 billion trees in the Amazon forest, 600 billion geysers. 90 00:04:52,783 --> 00:04:56,646 This is done with an extraordinary sophistication. 91 00:04:56,646 --> 00:04:58,291 They don't need the heat of magma. 92 00:04:58,291 --> 00:05:01,262 They use sunlight to do this process. 93 00:05:01,262 --> 00:05:04,793 So, in a typical sunny day in the Amazon, 94 00:05:04,793 --> 00:05:07,723 a big tree manages to transfer 1,000 liters of water 95 00:05:07,723 --> 00:05:10,032 during its transpiration. 96 00:05:10,032 --> 00:05:11,447 1000 liters. 97 00:05:11,447 --> 00:05:16,642 If we take all the Amazon, 98 00:05:16,642 --> 00:05:18,505 which is a very large area, 99 00:05:18,505 --> 00:05:21,585 and add it up to all that water that is released by transpiration, 100 00:05:21,585 --> 00:05:24,291 which is the sweat of the forest, 101 00:05:24,291 --> 00:05:26,985 we'll get to an incredible number: 102 00:05:26,985 --> 00:05:29,781 20 billion metric tons of water. 103 00:05:29,781 --> 00:05:31,375 You know, in one day. 104 00:05:31,375 --> 00:05:33,562 Do you know how much that is? 105 00:05:33,562 --> 00:05:36,122 The Amazon River, the largest river on Earth, 106 00:05:36,122 --> 00:05:37,703 one fifth of all the fresh water 107 00:05:37,703 --> 00:05:41,152 that leaves the continents of the whole world and ends up in the oceans, 108 00:05:41,152 --> 00:05:46,042 dumps 17 billion metric tons of water a day in the Atlantic Ocean. 109 00:05:46,042 --> 00:05:47,441 This river of vapor 110 00:05:47,441 --> 00:05:49,566 that comes up from the forest and goes into the atmosphere 111 00:05:49,566 --> 00:05:51,310 is greater than the Amazon River. 112 00:05:51,310 --> 00:05:53,187 Just to give you an idea. 113 00:05:53,187 --> 00:05:56,743 If we could take a gigantic kettle, 114 00:05:56,743 --> 00:05:59,642 one that you could plug into a power socket, an electric one, 115 00:05:59,642 --> 00:06:02,140 and put those 20 billion metric tons of water in it, 116 00:06:02,140 --> 00:06:05,490 how much power would you need to have this water evaporated? 117 00:06:05,490 --> 00:06:08,247 Any idea? A really big kettle. 118 00:06:08,247 --> 00:06:10,432 A gigantic kettle, right? 119 00:06:10,432 --> 00:06:12,518 50 thousand Itaipus. 120 00:06:12,518 --> 00:06:16,264 Itaipu is still the largest hydroelectric plant in the world. 121 00:06:16,264 --> 00:06:17,937 and Brazil is very proud of it 122 00:06:17,937 --> 00:06:20,136 because it provides more than 30% of the power 123 00:06:20,136 --> 00:06:22,093 that is consumed in Brazil. 124 00:06:22,093 --> 00:06:26,785 And the Amazon is here, doing this for free. 125 00:06:26,785 --> 00:06:31,957 It's a vivid and extremely powerful plant, providing environmental services. 126 00:06:34,047 --> 00:06:35,608 Related to this subject, 127 00:06:35,608 --> 00:06:38,596 we are going to talk about what I call the “Paradox of Chance”, 128 00:06:38,596 --> 00:06:40,764 which is curious. 129 00:06:40,764 --> 00:06:42,476 If you look at the world map -- 130 00:06:42,476 --> 00:06:43,835 it's easy to see this -- 131 00:06:43,835 --> 00:06:46,904 you'll see that there are forests in the equatorial zone, 132 00:06:46,904 --> 00:06:50,116 and deserts are organized at 30º north latitude, 133 00:06:50,116 --> 00:06:53,199 30º south latitude, aligned. 134 00:06:53,199 --> 00:06:56,243 Look over there, in the southern hemisphere, the Atacama; 135 00:06:56,243 --> 00:06:58,840 Namibia and Kalahari in Africa; the Australian desert. 136 00:06:58,840 --> 00:07:01,994 In the northern hemisphere, the Sahara, Sonoma, etc. 137 00:07:01,994 --> 00:07:06,433 There is an exception, and it's curious: 138 00:07:06,433 --> 00:07:09,520 It's the quadrangle that ranges from Cuiabá to Buenos Aires, 139 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,323 and from São Paulo to the Andes. 140 00:07:11,323 --> 00:07:14,437 This quadrangle was supposed to be a desert. 141 00:07:14,437 --> 00:07:16,746 It's on the line of deserts. 142 00:07:16,746 --> 00:07:20,010 Why isn't it a desert? That's why I call it the “Paradox of Chance”. 143 00:07:20,010 --> 00:07:23,449 What do we have in South America that is different? 144 00:07:24,279 --> 00:07:26,448 If we could use the analogy 145 00:07:26,448 --> 00:07:30,580 of the blood circulating in our bodies, 146 00:07:30,580 --> 00:07:33,662 like the water circulating in the landscape, 147 00:07:33,662 --> 00:07:37,788 we see that rivers are veins, 148 00:07:37,788 --> 00:07:42,333 they drain the landscape, they drain the tissue of nature. 149 00:07:42,333 --> 00:07:44,288 Where are the arteries? 150 00:07:44,288 --> 00:07:46,323 Any guess? 151 00:07:46,323 --> 00:07:48,139 What takes... 152 00:07:48,139 --> 00:07:53,402 How does water get to irrigate the tissues of nature 153 00:07:53,402 --> 00:07:56,585 and bring everything back through rivers? 154 00:07:56,585 --> 00:07:59,606 There is a new type of river, 155 00:07:59,606 --> 00:08:02,897 which originates in the blue sea, 156 00:08:02,897 --> 00:08:06,247 which flows through the green ocean -- 157 00:08:06,247 --> 00:08:09,244 it not only flows, but it is also pumped by the green ocean -- 158 00:08:09,244 --> 00:08:12,299 and then it falls on our land. 159 00:08:12,299 --> 00:08:14,507 All our economy, that quadrangle, 160 00:08:14,507 --> 00:08:19,037 70% of South America's GDP comes from that area. 161 00:08:19,037 --> 00:08:20,675 It depends on this river. 162 00:08:20,675 --> 00:08:22,727 This river invisibly flows above us. 163 00:08:22,727 --> 00:08:24,915 We are floating here on this floating hotel, 164 00:08:24,915 --> 00:08:27,870 on one of the largest rivers on Earth, the Negro River. 165 00:08:27,870 --> 00:08:31,259 It's a bit dry and rough, but we are floating here, 166 00:08:31,259 --> 00:08:34,349 and there is this invisible river running above us. 167 00:08:34,349 --> 00:08:37,516 This river has a pulse. 168 00:08:37,516 --> 00:08:39,939 Here it is, pulsing. 169 00:08:39,939 --> 00:08:42,327 That's why we also talk about the heart. 170 00:08:42,327 --> 00:08:44,462 You can see the different seasons there. 171 00:08:44,462 --> 00:08:47,823 There's the rainy season... In the Amazon, we used to have two seasons, 172 00:08:47,823 --> 00:08:50,036 the humid season and an even more humid season. 173 00:08:50,036 --> 00:08:51,962 Now we have a dry season. 174 00:08:51,962 --> 00:08:54,671 You can see the river covering that region 175 00:08:54,671 --> 00:08:58,444 which, otherwise, would be a desert. And it is not. 176 00:09:01,633 --> 00:09:05,151 We, scientists... You see that I'm struggling here 177 00:09:05,151 --> 00:09:07,634 to take my head from one side to the other. 178 00:09:07,634 --> 00:09:13,031 Scientists study how it works, why, etc. 179 00:09:13,031 --> 00:09:17,718 and these studies are generating a series of discoveries, 180 00:09:17,718 --> 00:09:19,290 which are absolutely fabulous, 181 00:09:19,290 --> 00:09:22,283 to raise our awareness of the wealth, 182 00:09:22,283 --> 00:09:24,668 the complexity, and the wonder that we have, 183 00:09:24,668 --> 00:09:27,649 the symphony we have in this process. 184 00:09:27,649 --> 00:09:29,997 One of them is: How is rain formed? 185 00:09:29,997 --> 00:09:33,522 Above the Amazon, there is clean air, 186 00:09:33,522 --> 00:09:35,440 as there is clean air above the ocean. 187 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,493 The blue sea has clean air above it and forms pretty few clouds; 188 00:09:38,493 --> 00:09:39,952 there's almost no rain there. 189 00:09:39,952 --> 00:09:44,366 The green ocean has the same clean air, but forms a lot of rain. 190 00:09:44,366 --> 00:09:46,753 What is happening here that is different? 191 00:09:46,753 --> 00:09:48,423 The forest emits smells, 192 00:09:48,423 --> 00:09:51,361 and these smells are condensation nuclei, 193 00:09:51,361 --> 00:09:53,625 which form drops in the atmosphere. 194 00:09:53,625 --> 00:09:58,503 Then, clouds are formed and there is torrential rain. 195 00:09:58,503 --> 00:10:01,180 The sprinkler of the Garden of Eden. 196 00:10:01,900 --> 00:10:06,712 This relation between a living thing, which is the forest, 197 00:10:06,712 --> 00:10:09,856 and a non-living thing, which is the atmosphere, 198 00:10:09,856 --> 00:10:12,133 is ingenious in the Amazon, 199 00:10:12,133 --> 00:10:17,464 because the forest provides water and seeds, 200 00:10:17,464 --> 00:10:20,449 and the atmosphere forms the rain and gives water back, 201 00:10:20,449 --> 00:10:23,961 guaranteeing the forest's survival. 202 00:10:24,421 --> 00:10:25,950 There are other factors as well. 203 00:10:25,950 --> 00:10:27,344 We've talked a little about the heart, 204 00:10:27,344 --> 00:10:30,654 and let's now talk about another function: the liver! 205 00:10:30,654 --> 00:10:35,715 When humid air, high humidity and radiation are combined 206 00:10:35,715 --> 00:10:37,775 with this organic material, 207 00:10:37,775 --> 00:10:43,487 which I call “exogenous vitamin C”, generous vitamin C in the form of gas, 208 00:10:43,487 --> 00:10:46,317 the plants release antioxidants 209 00:10:46,317 --> 00:10:48,637 which react with pollutants. 210 00:10:48,637 --> 00:10:50,041 You can rest assured 211 00:10:50,041 --> 00:10:53,538 that you are breathing the purest air on Earth, here in the Amazon, 212 00:10:53,538 --> 00:10:57,045 because the plants take care of this characteristic as well. 213 00:10:57,045 --> 00:10:59,662 This benefits the way plants work, 214 00:10:59,662 --> 00:11:01,715 which is another ingenious cycle. 215 00:11:01,715 --> 00:11:05,569 Speaking of fractals, 216 00:11:05,569 --> 00:11:07,905 and their relation with the way we work, 217 00:11:07,905 --> 00:11:10,493 we can establish other comparisons. 218 00:11:10,493 --> 00:11:14,024 As in the upper airways of our lungs, 219 00:11:14,024 --> 00:11:17,736 the air in the Amazon gets clean up from the excess of dust. 220 00:11:17,736 --> 00:11:21,714 The dust in the air that we breathe is cleaned by our airways. 221 00:11:21,714 --> 00:11:25,533 This keeps the excess of dust from affecting the rainfall. 222 00:11:25,533 --> 00:11:27,170 When there are fires in the Amazon, 223 00:11:27,170 --> 00:11:30,224 the smoke stops the rain, it stops raining, 224 00:11:30,224 --> 00:11:32,426 the forest dries up and catches fire. 225 00:11:32,426 --> 00:11:35,057 There is another fractal analogy. 226 00:11:35,057 --> 00:11:37,009 Like the in veins and arteries, 227 00:11:37,009 --> 00:11:39,805 the rain water is a feedback. 228 00:11:39,805 --> 00:11:41,834 It returns to the atmosphere. 229 00:11:41,834 --> 00:11:46,120 Like endocrinal glands and hormones, 230 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,863 there are those gases which I told you about before, 231 00:11:48,863 --> 00:11:52,495 that are formed and released into the atmosphere, like hormones, 232 00:11:52,495 --> 00:11:54,810 which help in the formation of rain. 233 00:11:55,490 --> 00:11:59,435 Like the liver and the kidneys, as I've said: cleaning the air. 234 00:11:59,435 --> 00:12:01,234 And, finally, like the heart: 235 00:12:01,234 --> 00:12:06,307 pumping water from outside, from the sea, 236 00:12:06,307 --> 00:12:08,179 into the forest. 237 00:12:08,179 --> 00:12:11,581 We call it "The Biotic Moisture Pump," 238 00:12:11,581 --> 00:12:15,731 a new theory that is explained in a very simple way. 239 00:12:15,731 --> 00:12:18,389 If there is a desert in the continent 240 00:12:18,389 --> 00:12:20,477 with a nearby sea, 241 00:12:20,477 --> 00:12:22,311 evaporation's greater on the sea, 242 00:12:22,311 --> 00:12:25,280 and it sucks the air above the desert. 243 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,762 The desert is trapped in this condition. It will always be dry. 244 00:12:28,762 --> 00:12:31,528 If you have the opposite situation, a forest, 245 00:12:31,528 --> 00:12:35,266 the evaporation, as we showed, is much greater, because of the trees, 246 00:12:35,266 --> 00:12:36,978 and this cycle is reversed. 247 00:12:36,978 --> 00:12:39,331 The air above the sea is sucked into the continent 248 00:12:39,331 --> 00:12:42,179 and humidity is imported. 249 00:12:42,179 --> 00:12:46,676 This satellite image was taken one month ago -- 250 00:12:46,676 --> 00:12:49,063 that's Manaus down there, we're down there -- 251 00:12:49,063 --> 00:12:50,418 and it shows this process. 252 00:12:50,418 --> 00:12:53,462 It's not a common little river, that flows into a canal. 253 00:12:53,462 --> 00:12:58,192 It's a mighty river that irrigates South America, 254 00:12:58,192 --> 00:13:00,016 among other things. 255 00:13:00,016 --> 00:13:02,333 This image shows those paths, 256 00:13:02,333 --> 00:13:05,638 all the hurricanes that have been recorded. 257 00:13:05,638 --> 00:13:10,208 You can see that, in the red square, there hardly are any hurricanes. 258 00:13:10,208 --> 00:13:11,786 This is no accident. 259 00:13:11,786 --> 00:13:15,250 This pump that sucks the moisture into the continent 260 00:13:15,250 --> 00:13:17,485 also speeds up the air above the sea, 261 00:13:17,485 --> 00:13:20,343 and this prevents hurricane formations. 262 00:13:21,053 --> 00:13:25,645 To close this part and summing up, 263 00:13:25,645 --> 00:13:28,265 I'd like to talk about something a little different. 264 00:13:28,265 --> 00:13:30,225 I have several colleagues 265 00:13:30,225 --> 00:13:32,710 who worked in the development of these theories. 266 00:13:32,710 --> 00:13:36,341 They think, and so do I, 267 00:13:36,341 --> 00:13:38,939 that we can save planet Earth. 268 00:13:38,939 --> 00:13:41,684 I'm not talking only about the Amazon. 269 00:13:41,684 --> 00:13:43,809 The Amazon teaches us a lesson 270 00:13:43,809 --> 00:13:47,845 on how pristine nature works. 271 00:13:47,845 --> 00:13:50,251 We didn't understand these processes before 272 00:13:50,251 --> 00:13:53,086 because the rest of the world is messed up. 273 00:13:53,086 --> 00:13:54,993 We could understand it here, though. 274 00:13:54,993 --> 00:13:58,370 These colleagues propose that, yes, we can, 275 00:13:58,370 --> 00:14:00,077 save other areas, 276 00:14:00,077 --> 00:14:02,172 including deserts. 277 00:14:02,172 --> 00:14:05,597 If we could establish forests in those other areas, 278 00:14:05,597 --> 00:14:07,709 we can reverse climate change, 279 00:14:07,709 --> 00:14:10,324 including global warming. 280 00:14:10,324 --> 00:14:12,540 I have a dear colleague in India, 281 00:14:12,540 --> 00:14:15,614 whose name's Suprabha Seshan, and she has a motto. 282 00:14:15,614 --> 00:14:20,248 Her motto is, "Gardening back the biosphere", 283 00:14:20,248 --> 00:14:22,286 "Reajardinando a biosfera", in Portuguese. 284 00:14:22,286 --> 00:14:25,284 She does wonderful job rebuilding ecosystems. 285 00:14:25,284 --> 00:14:27,851 We need to do this. 286 00:14:27,851 --> 00:14:32,036 Having closed this quick introduction, 287 00:14:32,036 --> 00:14:35,622 we see the reality that we have out here, 288 00:14:35,622 --> 00:14:38,632 which is drought, this climate change, 289 00:14:38,632 --> 00:14:40,515 things that we already knew. 290 00:14:40,515 --> 00:14:43,499 I'd like to tell you a short story. 291 00:14:44,649 --> 00:14:48,282 Once, about four years ago, 292 00:14:48,282 --> 00:14:52,169 I attended a declamation, of a text by Davi Copenaua, 293 00:14:52,169 --> 00:14:55,267 a wise representative of the Ianomâmi people, 294 00:14:55,267 --> 00:14:57,462 and it went more or less like this: 295 00:14:57,462 --> 00:15:00,087 "Doesn't the white man know 296 00:15:00,087 --> 00:15:03,478 that, if he destroys the forest, there will be no more rain? 297 00:15:03,478 --> 00:15:06,591 And that, if there's no more rain, there'll be no drinking water, 298 00:15:06,591 --> 00:15:08,464 or food? 299 00:15:08,464 --> 00:15:11,145 I heard that and my eyes welled up 300 00:15:11,145 --> 00:15:12,588 and I went, "Oh, my! 301 00:15:12,588 --> 00:15:16,464 I've been studying this for 20 years, with a super computer, 302 00:15:16,904 --> 00:15:19,034 dozens, thousands of scientists, 303 00:15:19,034 --> 00:15:22,712 and we are starting to get to this conclusion, which he already knows! 304 00:15:22,712 --> 00:15:27,746 A critical point is the Ianomâmi have never deforested. 305 00:15:27,746 --> 00:15:30,385 How could they know the rain would end? 306 00:15:30,385 --> 00:15:34,327 This bugged me and I was befuddled. 307 00:15:34,327 --> 00:15:35,773 How could he know that? 308 00:15:35,773 --> 00:15:39,536 Some months later, I met him at another event and said, 309 00:15:39,536 --> 00:15:45,342 "Davi, how did you know that if the forest was destroyed, there'd be no more rain?" 310 00:15:45,342 --> 00:15:50,157 He replied: "The spirit of the forest told us." 311 00:15:50,157 --> 00:15:54,744 For me, this was a game changer, 312 00:15:54,744 --> 00:15:56,447 a radical change. 313 00:15:56,447 --> 00:15:57,866 I said: "Gosh! 314 00:15:57,866 --> 00:16:02,105 Why am I doing all this science, 315 00:16:02,105 --> 00:16:05,167 to get to a conclusion that he already knows?" 316 00:16:05,167 --> 00:16:11,174 Then, something absolutely critical hit me, 317 00:16:11,174 --> 00:16:13,127 which is... 318 00:16:15,697 --> 00:16:19,072 seeing is believing. 319 00:16:19,932 --> 00:16:23,140 "Out of sight, out of [mind]." Right? 320 00:16:23,140 --> 00:16:27,928 This is a need the previous speaker pointed out: 321 00:16:27,928 --> 00:16:30,712 We need to see things -- 322 00:16:30,712 --> 00:16:32,900 I mean, we, western society, 323 00:16:32,900 --> 00:16:35,262 which is becoming global, civilized -- 324 00:16:35,262 --> 00:16:36,665 we need to see. 325 00:16:36,665 --> 00:16:39,188 If we don't see, we don't register the information. 326 00:16:39,188 --> 00:16:40,932 We live in ignorance. 327 00:16:40,932 --> 00:16:42,822 So, I make this proposal -- 328 00:16:42,822 --> 00:16:45,274 of course, the astronomers wouldn't like the idea -- 329 00:16:45,274 --> 00:16:48,130 but let's turn the Hubble telescope upside down. 330 00:16:48,130 --> 00:16:50,547 And let's make it look down here, 331 00:16:50,547 --> 00:16:52,797 rather than to the far reaches of the universe. 332 00:16:52,797 --> 00:16:54,539 The universe is wonderful, 333 00:16:54,539 --> 00:16:56,914 but we have a practical reality, 334 00:16:56,914 --> 00:17:00,734 which is we live in an unknown cosmos, 335 00:17:00,734 --> 00:17:02,117 and we're ignorant about it. 336 00:17:02,117 --> 00:17:05,787 We're trampling on this wonderful cosmos 337 00:17:05,787 --> 00:17:07,826 that shelters us and houses us. 338 00:17:07,826 --> 00:17:09,492 Talk to any astrophysicist. 339 00:17:09,492 --> 00:17:12,778 The Earth is a statistical improbability. 340 00:17:12,778 --> 00:17:16,976 The stability and comfort that we enjoy, despite the droughts of the Negro River, 341 00:17:16,976 --> 00:17:19,939 and all the heat, and cold, and typhoons, etc., 342 00:17:19,939 --> 00:17:22,673 there is nothing like it in the universe, that we know of. 343 00:17:22,673 --> 00:17:24,922 Then, let's turn Hubble in our direction, 344 00:17:24,922 --> 00:17:28,951 and let's look at the Earth. 345 00:17:29,431 --> 00:17:31,541 Let's start with the Amazon! 346 00:17:31,541 --> 00:17:32,920 Let's dive, 347 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,466 let's reach out the reality we live in every day, 348 00:17:37,466 --> 00:17:40,693 and look carefully at it, since that's what we need. 349 00:17:40,693 --> 00:17:42,624 Davi Copenaua doesn't need this. 350 00:17:42,624 --> 00:17:44,773 He has something already that I think I missed. 351 00:17:44,773 --> 00:17:46,678 I was educated by television. 352 00:17:46,678 --> 00:17:48,589 I think that I missed this, 353 00:17:48,589 --> 00:17:50,484 an ancestral record, 354 00:17:50,484 --> 00:17:54,864 a valuation of what I don't know, what I haven't seen. 355 00:17:54,864 --> 00:17:56,986 He is no "doubting Thomas." 356 00:17:56,986 --> 00:18:00,192 He believes, with veneration and reverence, 357 00:18:00,192 --> 00:18:03,563 in what his ancestors and the spirits taught him. 358 00:18:03,563 --> 00:18:06,337 We can't do it, so let's look into the forest. 359 00:18:06,337 --> 00:18:09,543 Even with Hubble up there -- 360 00:18:09,543 --> 00:18:11,888 this is a birds'-eye view, right? 361 00:18:11,888 --> 00:18:13,758 Even when this happens, 362 00:18:13,758 --> 00:18:16,862 we also see something that we don't know. 363 00:18:16,862 --> 00:18:19,148 The Spanish called it "the green inferno." 364 00:18:19,148 --> 00:18:22,018 If you go out there, and go into the bushes, and get lost, 365 00:18:22,018 --> 00:18:24,256 and, let's say, if you head west, 366 00:18:24,256 --> 00:18:26,225 it's 550 miles to Colombia, 367 00:18:26,225 --> 00:18:28,162 and another 600 miles to somewhere else. 368 00:18:28,162 --> 00:18:31,309 So, you can figure out why they called it the green inferno. 369 00:18:31,309 --> 00:18:34,563 But go and look at what is in there. 370 00:18:34,563 --> 00:18:36,054 It is a live carpet. 371 00:18:36,054 --> 00:18:38,350 Each color you see is a tree species. 372 00:18:38,350 --> 00:18:40,135 Each tree, each tree top, 373 00:18:40,135 --> 00:18:44,691 has up to 10,000 species of insects on it, 374 00:18:44,691 --> 00:18:48,749 let alone the millions of species of fungi, bacteria, etc. 375 00:18:48,749 --> 00:18:50,401 All invisible. 376 00:18:50,401 --> 00:18:53,645 All of it is an even stranger cosmos to us 377 00:18:53,645 --> 00:18:56,554 than the galaxies billions of light years away from the Earth, 378 00:18:56,554 --> 00:18:59,983 which Hubble brings to our newspapers everyday. 379 00:19:00,983 --> 00:19:02,853 I'm going to end my talk here -- 380 00:19:02,853 --> 00:19:04,664 I have a few seconds left -- 381 00:19:04,664 --> 00:19:06,708 by showing you this wonderful being. 382 00:19:06,708 --> 00:19:09,596 When we see the Morpho butterfly in the forest, 383 00:19:09,596 --> 00:19:12,431 we feel like someone's left the door to heaven open, 384 00:19:12,431 --> 00:19:15,632 and this creature escaped from there, because it's so beautiful. 385 00:19:15,632 --> 00:19:18,017 However, I cannot close 386 00:19:18,017 --> 00:19:20,548 without showing you a tech side. 387 00:19:20,548 --> 00:19:23,758 We are tech-arrogant. 388 00:19:23,758 --> 00:19:27,049 We deprive nature of its technology. 389 00:19:27,049 --> 00:19:28,773 A robotic hand is technological, 390 00:19:28,773 --> 00:19:30,150 mine is biological, 391 00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:31,913 and we don't think about it anymore. 392 00:19:31,913 --> 00:19:34,015 Let's then look at the Morpho butterfly, 393 00:19:34,015 --> 00:19:39,456 an example of an invisible technological competence of life, 394 00:19:39,456 --> 00:19:44,083 which is at the very heart of our possibility of surviving on this planet, 395 00:19:44,083 --> 00:19:46,348 and let's zoom in on it. Again, Hubble is there. 396 00:19:46,348 --> 00:19:48,262 Let's get into the butterfly's wings. 397 00:19:48,262 --> 00:19:52,465 Scholars have tried to explain: Why is it blue? 398 00:19:52,465 --> 00:19:53,935 Let's zoom in on it. 399 00:19:53,935 --> 00:19:59,011 What you see is that the architecture of the invisible humiliates 400 00:19:59,011 --> 00:20:02,043 the best architects in the world. 401 00:20:02,043 --> 00:20:04,440 All of this on a tiny scale. 402 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,968 Besides its beauty and functioning, there is another side to it. 403 00:20:07,968 --> 00:20:10,836 In nature, 404 00:20:10,836 --> 00:20:14,529 all that is organized in extraordinary structures has a function. 405 00:20:14,529 --> 00:20:19,019 This function, of the Morpho butterfly -- it is not blue, 406 00:20:19,019 --> 00:20:20,673 it does not have blue pigments. 407 00:20:20,673 --> 00:20:24,717 It has photonic crystals on its surface -- according to people who studied it -- 408 00:20:24,717 --> 00:20:26,748 which are extremely sophisticated crystals. 409 00:20:26,748 --> 00:20:30,427 Our technology had nothing like that at the time. 410 00:20:30,427 --> 00:20:33,208 Hitachi has now made a monitor 411 00:20:33,208 --> 00:20:34,563 that uses this technology, 412 00:20:34,563 --> 00:20:36,940 and it is used in optical fibers to transmit... 413 00:20:36,940 --> 00:20:41,350 Janine Banes, who's been here several times, talks about it: Biomimetics. 414 00:20:41,350 --> 00:20:42,702 My time's up. 415 00:20:42,702 --> 00:20:48,012 Then, I'll wrap it up with what is at the base of this capacity, 416 00:20:48,012 --> 00:20:50,584 of this competence of biodiversity, 417 00:20:50,584 --> 00:20:53,006 producing all these wonderful services: 418 00:20:53,006 --> 00:20:54,913 The living cell. 419 00:20:54,913 --> 00:20:58,427 It is a structure with a few microns, which is an internal wonder. 420 00:20:58,427 --> 00:21:01,454 There are TED talks about it, I won't talk much longer, 421 00:21:01,454 --> 00:21:04,628 but each person in this room, including myself, 422 00:21:04,628 --> 00:21:08,319 has 100 trillions of these micromachines in their body, 423 00:21:08,319 --> 00:21:11,159 so that we can enjoy this well-being. 424 00:21:11,159 --> 00:21:13,916 Imagine what is out there in the Amazon forest. 425 00:21:13,916 --> 00:21:17,927 100 trillions. This is greater than the number of stars in the sky. 426 00:21:17,927 --> 00:21:19,985 And we are not aware of it. 427 00:21:19,985 --> 00:21:21,869 Thank you so much. (Applause)