[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.40,0:00:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hello. How do you see Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.80,0:00:09.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress integrating with voice Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.76,0:00:12.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AI and 3D publishing on the web Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.88,0:00:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the future? Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.92,0:00:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Abha, thank you very much for Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.60,0:00:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that question. I haven't thought Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.32,0:00:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,too much about voice AI or 3D Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.16,0:00:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,publishing, but the good news is Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.24,0:00:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I don't need to for it to Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.60,0:00:27.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be possible. WordPress has so Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.36,0:00:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many great APIs. I have seen Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.44,0:00:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demos before of people using Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.44,0:00:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress to power content Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.88,0:00:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,embedded in sort of virtual Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.24,0:00:36.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worlds or things like Oculus, Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.04,0:00:39.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I have seen people use Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.36,0:00:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress to build kind of like Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.00,0:00:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- kind of like a voice menu Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.60,0:00:45.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,system for I believe it was Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.04,0:00:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alexa. So I know it's possible, Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.48,0:00:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we're probably a few years Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.64,0:00:52.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,away from that being in core. Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.32,0:00:53.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if there's anything that Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.60,0:00:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've missed that I should check Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.88,0:00:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out, please send it my way. Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.84,0:00:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> I'm Christina Workman from Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.60,0:01:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Calgary, Canada. I'm a designer, Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.60,0:01:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developer, enduser and Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.44,0:01:05.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributor. We saw with the Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.36,0:01:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,release of WordPress 5.6 that Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.68,0:01:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over 600 people contributed to Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.52,0:01:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,track tickets and GitHub pull Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.28,0:01:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,requests, all mentioned by name. Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.52,0:01:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As well as numerous volunteers Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.96,0:01:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributing in the support Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.16,0:01:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forums and translating to make Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.08,0:01:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,5.6 available in 38 languages, Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.80,0:01:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although unnamed. There's no Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.88,0:01:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doubt these volunteers are doing Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.32,0:01:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great work which is supported by Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.80,0:01:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thousands of other contributors Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.32,0:01:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,volunteering their time outside Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.08,0:01:31.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of core releases throughout the Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.52,0:01:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,year every year who don't get Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.84,0:01:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any recognition outside of their Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.60,0:01:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inner circles. Publicly Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.52,0:01:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,acknowledging the variety of Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.88,0:01:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributor roles available goes Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.88,0:01:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a long way to increasing our Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.56,0:01:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community's awareness that these Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.08,0:01:45.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,roles exist for them to Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.44,0:01:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,participate in. What plans are Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.76,0:01:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there for recognizing Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.04,0:01:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributions made by those who Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.80,0:01:52.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contribute to any team Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.64,0:01:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,throughout the year, even those Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.64,0:01:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not involved in a core release? Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.88,0:01:57.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.24,0:02:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Christina, this was an Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.84,0:02:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,excellent question, and I do Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.52,0:02:05.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,agree that recognition is a Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.68,0:02:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fantastic way to get more people Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.20,0:02:08.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributing to the things that Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.56,0:02:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're doing. The WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.88,0:02:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,release post and of course the Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.36,0:02:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,core itself is probably better Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.28,0:02:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at recognizing core itself and Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.52,0:02:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributors there than anything Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.80,0:02:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,else. One thing we did build to Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.08,0:02:23.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,improve this was the badge Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.60,0:02:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,system on profiles. So if you go Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.60,0:02:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to profiles.wordpress.org/Matt, Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.92,0:02:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you'll see there are a number of Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.80,0:02:30.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,badges there at the very top Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.80,0:02:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that show all the different Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.84,0:02:33.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things that I've done and Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.68,0:02:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributed to the WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.72,0:02:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community. I think there might Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.32,0:02:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be a bug there, because it shows Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.72,0:02:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I am a translation editor Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.32,0:02:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I am unable to speak any Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.16,0:02:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,language besides English. And Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.80,0:02:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even English I struggle with Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.00,0:02:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes, so -- but I noticed Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.56,0:02:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that on these badges, there's no Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.84,0:02:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way to click on them and see all Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.96,0:02:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the other people that have the Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.00,0:02:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same badges. So that could be a Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.68,0:02:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really nice start to having Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.00,0:02:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pages that recognize folks, Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.00,0:02:59.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly folks whose work Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.24,0:03:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn't just tied to a single Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.44,0:03:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,release within WordPress.org and Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.20,0:03:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it could have some sort of Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.08,0:03:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,natural decay function so, you Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.00,0:03:08.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know, if you haven't done Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.72,0:03:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anything for an amount of time, Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.24,0:03:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe you drop off the list. Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.16,0:03:13.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That would be, I think, a very Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.04,0:03:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,natural place to start to add it Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.64,0:03:15.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we'll look into it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.52,0:03:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Excellent suggestion and thank Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.04,0:03:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you very much. Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.84,0:03:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi, Matt. I'm Courtney Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.84,0:03:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Robertson with the training Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.88,0:03:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,team. You recently shared an Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.72,0:03:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,article from ZDNet that Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.16,0:03:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,indicates an 834% rise in PHP Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.60,0:03:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developer jobs since January of Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.84,0:03:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2020. It's fair to assume that Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.56,0:03:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of that would be WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.84,0:03:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developer-related jobs. W3Techs Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.36,0:03:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,indicates that WordPress powers Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.20,0:03:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over 39.3% of all websites Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.76,0:03:44.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,online, surpassing 38.5% of Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.56,0:03:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,websites that have no content Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.08,0:03:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,management system at all. Given Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.56,0:03:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those stats, what role do you Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.00,0:03:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see for employers in the Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.52,0:03:53.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress.org ecosystem as it Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.84,0:03:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relates to the Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.56,0:03:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learn.wordpress.org website? How Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.84,0:03:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you think that the learned Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.52,0:04:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,platform can address hiring, Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.92,0:04:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,skills and ongoing professional Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.00,0:04:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,development needs? Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.36,0:04:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Thank you, Courtney, for Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.24,0:04:09.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,highlighting those stats, and Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.76,0:04:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also thank you for the awesome Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.96,0:04:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress swag you have in your Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.32,0:04:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,background. One cool thing about Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.68,0:04:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this format is it's really neat Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.04,0:04:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see people where they are, Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.04,0:04:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not just us all being in the Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.08,0:04:20.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same auditorium. You know, for Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.40,0:04:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Learn, I think the first step is Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.64,0:04:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really just organizing and Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.48,0:04:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting really high-quality Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.16,0:04:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,educational material up there. Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.56,0:04:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The equivalent -- like if you Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.68,0:04:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were going to take a university Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.96,0:04:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,course on WordPress. How do we Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.64,0:04:34.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,walk you from just learning the Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.88,0:04:36.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basics all the way up to being Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.48,0:04:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,able to be able to customize and Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.40,0:04:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basically be a WordPress pro, so Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.08,0:04:41.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you could build sites for other Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.12,0:04:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people and be kind of like an Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.36,0:04:45.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,expert. Down the line, it would Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.84,0:04:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be great if this platform could Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.40,0:04:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have some sort of Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.92,0:04:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self-certification or perhaps Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.60,0:04:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even some sort of administered Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.68,0:04:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certification that could show Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.52,0:04:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people that, you know, you Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.48,0:04:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mastered a certain skill. That Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.48,0:05:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you, you know, went through -- Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.32,0:05:01.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,either you went through lessons Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.76,0:05:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you didn't need to, but you Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.64,0:05:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were able to, like, take a test Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.68,0:05:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the end and show that you Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.20,0:05:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were competent in this. It Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.32,0:05:07.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wouldn't be a perfect system, Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.60,0:05:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it could be a nice way for Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.68,0:05:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people to learn more about Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.84,0:05:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress and hopefully as they Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.60,0:05:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go through, since WordPress is Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.72,0:05:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,open source, improve the Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.00,0:05:18.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,materials as we go through it, Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.16,0:05:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both from the point of view of Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.36,0:05:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making it more intuitive or Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.56,0:05:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,easier to understand, and then Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.84,0:05:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also translating, as well. Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.28,0:05:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because there is huge demand for Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.64,0:05:25.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress really all over the Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.84,0:05:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,world now. Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.32,0:05:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hey, Matt. Dan Maby here from Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.48,0:05:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Big Orange Hearts, a charity Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.64,0:05:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,providing well-being and mental Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.68,0:05:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,health support for remote Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.88,0:05:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,workers. To support our mission, Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.96,0:05:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we deliver events to help reduce Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.40,0:05:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social isolation for those Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.32,0:05:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working remotely. With more than Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.72,0:05:41.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,12,000 attendees through our Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.84,0:05:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,virtual event platform built on Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.84,0:05:45.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,open source technologies this Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.04,0:05:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,year, I wanted to ask about your Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.20,0:05:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vision for events within the Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.64,0:05:50.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress community through Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.08,0:05:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2021. As a regular WordCamp and Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.80,0:05:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meetup organizer myself, I also Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.88,0:05:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanted to ask your thoughts on Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.48,0:05:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,responsibility towards safety of Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.48,0:06:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attendees and fellow organizers Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.04,0:06:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as we start to take steps Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.16,0:06:05.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,towards a vaccinated era. And, Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.04,0:06:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finally, with virtual events Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.72,0:06:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,offering a great level of Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.92,0:06:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accessibility for attendees, do Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.24,0:06:11.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you see the potential for a Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.76,0:06:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hybrid approach towards Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.20,0:06:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordCamps in the future? Thanks Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.60,0:06:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for your time. Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.52,0:06:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi, Dan. Andrea here. Thanks Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.76,0:06:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for asking this question. It's Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.48,0:06:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been inspirational to watch Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.00,0:06:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress community organizers Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.00,0:06:30.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rise to the challenges that this Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.16,0:06:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,horrible pandemic has brought, Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.84,0:06:34.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially since so many of us Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.08,0:06:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,love this work because we love Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.12,0:06:39.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seeing each other in person and Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.84,0:06:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we know how powerful those Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.16,0:06:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,face-to-face, in-person Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.16,0:06:46.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interactions can really be. And Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.64,0:06:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like other WordPressers, I am Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.48,0:06:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really eager to get back to Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.16,0:06:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those in-person events, just as Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.16,0:06:55.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,soon as it's safe. All that Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.12,0:06:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said, and as you point out, Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.00,0:07:00.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moving all of our events online Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.80,0:07:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has made them much more Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.24,0:07:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accessible, especially to those Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.88,0:07:07.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who either can't travel or don't Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.28,0:07:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wish to travel to our in-person Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.36,0:07:12.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,events. When I think about our Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.88,0:07:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,return to in-person events, I Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.88,0:07:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think that some sort of hybrid Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.20,0:07:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,element will be necessary, Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.68,0:07:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially in those first Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.80,0:07:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stages. But I also know that Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.28,0:07:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hybrid events are much more Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.80,0:07:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,expensive, and so yet again Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.48,0:07:31.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're gonna be hoping and Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.76,0:07:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking for WordPressers who Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.48,0:07:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to take the opportunity to Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.24,0:07:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really look for innovative ways Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.44,0:07:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make our community events Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.88,0:07:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accessible at scale. I don't Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.80,0:07:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know all the answers here, but I Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.60,0:07:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know that some of the smartest Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.12,0:07:51.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people -- that I know, at least Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.28,0:07:52.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.08,0:07:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are in WordPress, and I'm really Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.92,0:07:57.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking forward to work on this Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.28,0:07:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together with the global Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.32,0:08:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community team. I hope that's Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.04,0:08:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helpful. Thanks for all that you Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.64,0:08:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do for WordPress and the Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.68,0:08:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress community. I hope to Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.52,0:08:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see you soon. Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.76,0:08:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi, Matt. I'm Dave from Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.96,0:08:10.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Belgium. Almost 15 years Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.40,0:08:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,building sites professionally Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.92,0:08:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with ten years on WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.52,0:08:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,websites. Hope you're okay and Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.36,0:08:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Happy Christmas in advance for Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.96,0:08:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone listening. Well, Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.28,0:08:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress is in its nature a Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.56,0:08:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very clean, no-overkill-on- Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.24,0:08:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,options kind of software, and Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.00,0:08:25.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thankfully this created our Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.20,0:08:27.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beloved WordPress ecosystem. It Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.36,0:08:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also created momentum for page Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.04,0:08:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,builders like Elementer to arise Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.72,0:08:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with enormous success. And the Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.88,0:08:34.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reason for that is simple: The Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.88,0:08:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,user got all the options. Just Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.72,0:08:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to mention a few to make my Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.16,0:08:39.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question more specific, I'm Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.84,0:08:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking about layout, padding, Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.92,0:08:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,margin, desktop versus mobile, Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.16,0:08:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tablet and so on. Now, the Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.04,0:08:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Block Editor is right now also Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.96,0:08:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that kind of no-overkill-on- Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.64,0:08:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,options kind of software. Some Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.72,0:08:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like that. I totally understand Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.40,0:08:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that, but some don't. The Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.64,0:08:58.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question is, how far do you Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.40,0:09:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think the core blocks must go in Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.88,0:09:02.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those kinds of customization to Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.96,0:09:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please the mass non-tech Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.88,0:09:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,audience because if you look Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.72,0:09:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back, honestly, that's what they Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.48,0:09:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want, that's what they choose. Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.16,0:09:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or would you rather keep that Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.68,0:09:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress simplicity again to Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.08,0:09:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leave the door open for the next Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.76,0:09:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,block page builder plug-in to Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.52,0:09:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,arise. Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.72,0:09:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how dependent on a Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.48,0:09:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,third-party layout plug-in do Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.72,0:09:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you want the WordPress block Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.16,0:09:26.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,user to be? Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.56,0:09:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hello, Dave. You bring up an Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.32,0:09:31.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interesting point, which is that Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.76,0:09:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're trying to walk a very fine Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.84,0:09:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,line between creating something Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.84,0:09:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is intuitive and easy to Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.36,0:09:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use, and also providing the Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.32,0:09:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,customization that people Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.44,0:09:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clearly want in WordPress. While Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.36,0:09:44.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also trying to do something Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.56,0:09:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which has never really been done Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.08,0:09:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before, which is provide a "what Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.12,0:09:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you see is what you get" Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.16,0:09:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WYSIWYG-style interface that, Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.84,0:09:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,again, is intuitive and easy to Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.28,0:09:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use in lay out, but that also Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.76,0:09:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creates really semantic markup, Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.56,0:10:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,structured data, and is fast and Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.04,0:10:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,performant. Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.20,0:10:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if you've seen any Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.08,0:10:05.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the comparisons on the web Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.36,0:10:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between WordPress with Gutenberg Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.32,0:10:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,versus other page filters or Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.68,0:10:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other proprietary CMSs. That Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.60,0:10:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,page building and functionality. Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.28,0:10:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gutenberg blows them out of the Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.32,0:10:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,water. It is really fast, really Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.16,0:10:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clean markup, really lean. This Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.44,0:10:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is taking a little longer to do, Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.76,0:10:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right, to do it right, it's Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.12,0:10:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking longer, but I believe Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.08,0:10:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's the right long-term Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.52,0:10:27.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,investment in both the future of Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.28,0:10:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress and the future of the Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.32,0:10:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,web. In terms of customization, Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.44,0:10:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe there will always be Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.56,0:10:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,space for not just one plug-in Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.48,0:10:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but many, many, many plug-ins to Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.84,0:10:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extend Gutenberg. And that is Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.32,0:10:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really the idea, that by -- Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.40,0:10:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where before we had, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.72,0:10:44.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lots and lots of different page Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.56,0:10:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,builders kind of having their Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.08,0:10:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,own data structures, their own Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.20,0:10:49.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way to do essentially the same Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.68,0:10:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing from a user point of view, Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.04,0:10:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and themes would have to build Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.16,0:10:53.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to one, SEO plug-ins would have Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.52,0:10:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to build to each one. We're Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.20,0:10:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to provide common rails Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.88,0:11:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or framework that every vision Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.16,0:11:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for how page-building could work Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.68,0:11:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on top of WordPress can leverage Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.20,0:11:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these blocks. Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.84,0:11:05.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, blocks are even built Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.36,0:11:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that other CMSs can leverage Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.80,0:11:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them, too. So that is the path Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.04,0:11:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are on. Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.40,0:11:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the way WordPress is going. Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.68,0:11:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe it's the future. I Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.96,0:11:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hope that as many people get on Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.08,0:11:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that train as possible, but if Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.92,0:11:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not, I do believe it is Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.04,0:11:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inevitable. Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.60,0:11:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hey, Matt, this is Doc from Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.04,0:11:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Torque" magazine. I'm wondering Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.48,0:11:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what features for core are you Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.24,0:11:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,targeting to make WordPress a Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.84,0:11:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better headless experience in Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.12,0:11:25.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2021? Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.52,0:11:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> First, I have to say, I don't Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.64,0:11:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,love the term "headless." Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.84,0:11:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like called it "decoupled Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.04,0:11:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress" because who wants to Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.24,0:11:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be headless? But by and far, the Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.40,0:11:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing that's been driving the Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.52,0:11:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most improvements to our APIs Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.68,0:11:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been our first-priority Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.64,0:11:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,usage of them. So, with Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.16,0:11:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gutenberg, built on and using Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.76,0:11:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the REST API, and, of course, Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.20,0:11:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our mobile apps, both Android Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.60,0:11:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and iOS, you know, a million Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.68,0:11:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,active users, all running Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.00,0:11:52.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through the APIs. So that has Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.88,0:11:54.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helped expose a ton of bugs and Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.80,0:11:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a ton of other areas where we Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.88,0:11:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can improve it. I'm keeping my Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.72,0:12:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eye on the GraphQL plug-in. I Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.56,0:12:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think that that is an Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.52,0:12:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interesting possible next step Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.80,0:12:07.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after REST to support either as Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.60,0:12:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a more official plug-in, or just Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.52,0:12:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that we point people Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.48,0:12:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to because it seems to be doing Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.92,0:12:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well. You know, I was actually Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.12,0:12:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- I don't think that a Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.40,0:12:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decoupled architecture or Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.60,0:12:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"headless" sites are right for Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.96,0:12:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything. I think they're Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.20,0:12:22.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right in certain situations, but Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.52,0:12:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I am quoted with saying, they Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.32,0:12:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are probably a regression for Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.84,0:12:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many of the people adopting Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.12,0:12:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them. I actually had a really Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.96,0:12:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good debate about this at the Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.64,0:12:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Netlifly JAMStack Conference Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.96,0:12:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Matt Billman, but I guess Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.04,0:12:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was too good because they Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.00,0:12:39.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,elected not to post it, but Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.84,0:12:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perhaps you can track down a Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.20,0:12:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recording or something, and hear Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.36,0:12:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some more of my thoughts about Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.52,0:12:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decoupled architectures and Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.12,0:12:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress there. Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.28,0:12:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi, Matt. My name is George Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.72,0:12:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alger. I've been a WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.40,0:12:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,user since 2007, and I've been Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.60,0:12:57.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watching State of the Word for a Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.28,0:12:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,number of years. My question has Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.44,0:13:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do with Gutenberg versus page Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.00,0:13:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,builders, and more specifically Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.40,0:13:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regarding page load speed. I'm Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.36,0:13:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wondering, as Gutenberg in the Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.48,0:13:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,future adds more and more Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.96,0:13:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,features, do you anticipate that Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.76,0:13:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the page load speeds for Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.44,0:13:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gutenberg will also slow down to Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.92,0:13:24.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,support the new features? All Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.96,0:13:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right. Thanks for all you do. Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.24,0:13:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bye-bye. Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.64,0:13:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> So, George, my name is Riad Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.12,0:13:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Benguella. I am a developer on Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.64,0:13:32.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Gutenberg team. It's an Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.80,0:13:34.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interesting question you bring Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.24,0:13:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here related to performance. As Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.88,0:13:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can see with the different Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.16,0:13:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress releases since the Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.56,0:13:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,initial release of the core -- Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.56,0:13:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Block Editor in WordPress, Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.96,0:13:46.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the performance of the editor Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.40,0:13:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been improving, even if we Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.28,0:13:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were adding features at the same Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.20,0:13:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time. So, it's definitely a big Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.76,0:13:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,priority for us, and for the Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.44,0:13:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,front end and the page load Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.72,0:13:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,speed, we've been approaching Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.48,0:14:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in a few different ways. Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.32,0:14:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first one is the block Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.52,0:14:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,markup. We are trying to make Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.36,0:14:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sure the block markup is as Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.12,0:14:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clean as possible, and also the Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.00,0:14:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interesting thing is that Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.04,0:14:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gutenberg brings semantics to Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.88,0:14:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the content that is being Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.24,0:14:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rendered. So WordPress can know Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.32,0:14:16.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exactly what blocks are being Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.08,0:14:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rendered, what assets they need, Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.00,0:14:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what CSS, what JavaScripts they Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.92,0:14:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need, and, in fact, recently, we Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.08,0:14:23.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,landed the pull request that Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.36,0:14:25.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allows us to only load the CSS Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.68,0:14:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the blocks that are actually Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.12,0:14:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in need in the currently Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.40,0:14:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rendered page, and this opens a Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.12,0:14:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot of possibilities. For Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.32,0:14:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example, in the future, we may Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.52,0:14:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do the same for JavaScript and Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.28,0:14:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lazy-load blocks. When we expand Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.60,0:14:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that to full site editing where Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.60,0:14:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a theme is basically composed Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.16,0:14:46.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entirely of blocks, you can Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.40,0:14:48.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,imagine that the CSS and the Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.24,0:14:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JavaScript provided by the teams Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.24,0:14:52.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,themselves won't be as necessary Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.32,0:14:52.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as today. Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.44,0:14:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think we have a big Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.68,0:14:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,opportunity here to actually Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.52,0:14:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,improve the performance of all Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.44,0:15:01.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the WordPress websites and not Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.36,0:15:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decrease it as we add features. Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.36,0:15:03.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.68,0:15:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi, Matt. I'm Hitha from Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.12,0:15:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,India. I'm a project manager, Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.04,0:15:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mainly working with a group of Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.60,0:15:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress developers. My Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.64,0:15:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question for you today is a Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.32,0:15:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simple one. In the recent Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.12,0:15:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,releases, we have a lot of new Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.44,0:15:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,features and advancement in Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.36,0:15:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress, but as an end user or Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.96,0:15:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe a content manager, have Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.04,0:15:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you ever felt like it would be Dialogue: 0,0:15:33.44,0:15:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good to have a more modern Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.28,0:15:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,design for the back end, and if Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.36,0:15:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it would have been good if we Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.88,0:15:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had more customization options Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.04,0:15:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just for the back end? Have you Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.64,0:15:44.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever felt so? Thanks. Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.68,0:15:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hello, Hitha. I'm Joen from Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.28,0:15:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Denmark. I worked a little bit Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.96,0:15:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the Block Editor design. Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.32,0:15:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you for your question. Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.76,0:15:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll try to answer it as best I Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.44,0:15:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can. As you suggest, WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:15:58.00,0:15:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has landed many features in Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.44,0:16:01.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recent releases, but very few Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.76,0:16:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,changes to the dashboard Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.44,0:16:05.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,visuals. If you're asking Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.04,0:16:06.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether that's gonna change, my Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.48,0:16:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,answer is I'd like to see that Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.32,0:16:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very much. One of the challenges Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.88,0:16:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to making that happen is that Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.32,0:16:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the dashboard as it exists has Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.16,0:16:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been customized by a great deal Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.12,0:16:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of plug-ins and developers, and Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.16,0:16:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although it is complicated to Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.92,0:16:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new users, the fact that it's Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.80,0:16:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been unchanged for so long means Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.72,0:16:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's familiar to existing Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.20,0:16:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,users. That means whatever Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.16,0:16:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,changes we make have to be Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.84,0:16:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rolled out carefully and in Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.60,0:16:38.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,small iterations. But my hope is Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.24,0:16:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that over time those iterations Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.40,0:16:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can add up. For example, the Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.28,0:16:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Block Editor, we have a new icon Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.88,0:16:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,set and a new set of components, Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.28,0:16:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,user interface controls. Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.40,0:16:51.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Although technically Dialogue: 0,0:16:51.36,0:16:52.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,challenging, if we could roll Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.64,0:16:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those out to the rest of the Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.00,0:16:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dashboard, it would bring a Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.00,0:16:57.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great deal of improvements to Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.28,0:16:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both accessibility and visual Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.68,0:17:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simplicity. So I'd like to see Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.60,0:17:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that happen. You also ask about Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.24,0:17:06.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,customization options, and the Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.56,0:17:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing is, WordPress is a lot of Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.40,0:17:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things to a lot of people, and Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.88,0:17:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,customization options beyond Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.72,0:17:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,color schemes might help tailor Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.80,0:17:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the interface to each group. I Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.92,0:17:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would suggest, though, that the Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.44,0:17:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first step to take would be to Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.88,0:17:23.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make general user interface Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.60,0:17:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enhancement because that would Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.12,0:17:27.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,benefit everyone, but after Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.36,0:17:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that, absolutely, we could look Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.04,0:17:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at customization options. I hope Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.92,0:17:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that answers your question, and Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.92,0:17:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you again for your time. Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.84,0:17:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hey, Matt. Jeroen here from Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.76,0:17:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Belgium. Thank you for taking Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.68,0:17:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the State of the Word online Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.44,0:17:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this year. I'm using WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.60,0:17:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for all of the websites I Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.96,0:17:48.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,develop with my company Site Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.44,0:17:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fly, and I'm an active Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.32,0:17:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributor to the WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.00,0:17:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,project. You mentioned before Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.32,0:17:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in Phase 4 of the Gutenberg Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.84,0:17:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,project, that multilingual Dialogue: 0,0:17:59.84,0:18:01.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,features are coming to WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.36,0:18:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,core. I know this is in the Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.16,0:18:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,future, but is there any public Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.08,0:18:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,roadmap of all the features and Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.68,0:18:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,functionalities we want in Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.00,0:18:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress? And is it going to Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.16,0:18:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,include a language fallback into Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.88,0:18:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,core so we can configure Dialogue: 0,0:18:18.40,0:18:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,multiple locales and the Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.16,0:18:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fallback when a translation is Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.60,0:18:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not on wordpress.org? Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.64,0:18:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Currently as a contributor to Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.56,0:18:28.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the polyglots team, I find it Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.24,0:18:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very difficult to translate Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.12,0:18:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thousands of plug-ins and Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.32,0:18:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,themes, and I would love that Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.04,0:18:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fallback to another locale would Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.12,0:18:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be there before it goes to Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.56,0:18:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,English. Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.12,0:18:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Currently, I'm using Preferred Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.40,0:18:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Languages as a plug-in for this, Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.68,0:18:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it would be very cool if Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.04,0:18:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this would be included in Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.56,0:18:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress core. Thank you for Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.24,0:18:51.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,answering my question. Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.32,0:18:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hello, Jeroen. I'm Matias Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.76,0:18:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ventura helping lead the Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.44,0:18:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gutenberg project forwards. Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.28,0:18:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you for your question and Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.48,0:18:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for contributing to the project. Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.28,0:19:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Regarding the roadmap, there is Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.52,0:19:05.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a public roadmap published in Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.36,0:19:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wordpress.org/about/roadmap that Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.60,0:19:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has sort of like an overview of Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.20,0:19:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the next immediate steps, and it Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.84,0:19:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,touches upon the four phases of Dialogue: 0,0:19:15.60,0:19:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gutenberg as well. And what it Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.20,0:19:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't contain, though, is a Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.56,0:19:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,detailed plan on Phase 4 Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.64,0:19:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specifically, multilingual, Dialogue: 0,0:19:23.20,0:19:25.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's fairly further Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.20,0:19:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ahead for us and we're in the Dialogue: 0,0:19:26.64,0:19:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thick of Phase 2. However, like, Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.80,0:19:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there has been some Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.92,0:19:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conversations around the Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.92,0:19:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,implications of localization Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.00,0:19:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some of the multilingual Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.60,0:19:39.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aspects, specifically around Dialogue: 0,0:19:40.48,0:19:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,patterns and block themes and Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.24,0:19:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how those could be built in the Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.84,0:19:46.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gutenberg repository. Nothing Dialogue: 0,0:19:46.16,0:19:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,substantial yet, but if you are Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.92,0:19:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interested in those Dialogue: 0,0:19:48.64,0:19:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conversations, that's a good Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.84,0:19:52.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,place to engage with and start Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.08,0:19:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking at. But, yeah, like as Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.96,0:19:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we approach -- as we get closer Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.40,0:19:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Phase 4, we will have a more Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.24,0:19:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,detailed overview of what's Dialogue: 0,0:19:59.60,0:20:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,needed, what requirements and Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.44,0:20:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we want to do. Regarding Dialogue: 0,0:20:04.24,0:20:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the other topic about fallback Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.00,0:20:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,languages, that's a very good Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.92,0:20:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,point. For me, I'm very Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.00,0:20:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sympathetic to that, Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.12,0:20:13.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specifically because I speak variant, Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.43,0:20:16.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but of the Voseo variant Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.31,0:20:18.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That means that in most cases Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.23,0:20:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would benefit from a fallback to Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.82,0:20:22.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Spain's Spanish Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.28,0:20:24.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there is not much Dialogue: 0,0:20:24.56,0:20:26.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,translations going on for you Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.21,0:20:28.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not even sure if we\Nhave a locale, honestly. Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.55,0:20:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that's something that could Dialogue: 0,0:20:31.36,0:20:33.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- personally, I think it could happen Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.29,0:20:34.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before Phase 4? Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.63,0:20:36.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it could be, like, Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.59,0:20:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a small step towards Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.32,0:20:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a significantly better experience. Dialogue: 0,0:20:40.64,0:20:42.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it might be good to discuss it Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.62,0:20:44.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before Phase 4. Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.41,0:20:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in any case, if that happens -- if it Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.04,0:20:49.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't happen before, it would Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.44,0:20:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surely be a part of the phase 4 Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.05,0:20:54.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conversation. Thank you again Dialogue: 0,0:20:54.18,0:20:56.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and hope you're doing well. Bye-bye. Dialogue: 0,0:20:56.29,0:20:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hello, everyone. Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.00,0:21:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Good moring, Matt. This is Joe Simpson Dialogue: 0,0:21:00.32,0:21:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Castilla, California Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.84,0:21:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Santa Clarita Valley, Dialogue: 0,0:21:03.68,0:21:05.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just north of Los Angeles. Dialogue: 0,0:21:05.75,0:21:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm the lead organizer for WordCamp Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.84,0:21:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Santa Clarita online and I run Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.92,0:21:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two WordPress meetups in the Dialogue: 0,0:21:12.00,0:21:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,area as well. As you can tell, Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.92,0:21:16.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm a big WordPress fan. Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.64,0:21:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm a big advocate for accessibility Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.88,0:21:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well, and I've done quite a Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.56,0:21:23.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,few events this year in that space. Dialogue: 0,0:21:23.37,0:21:26.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I wanted to reach out to you today Dialogue: 0,0:21:26.02,0:21:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about was a matter Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.18,0:21:30.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's pretty important to me. Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.34,0:21:33.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we had our event in the spring, Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.54,0:21:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had volunteers from Bangladesh, we had Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.52,0:21:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attendees from Europe, from Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.60,0:21:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Africa, volunteers from South Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.28,0:21:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,America, and it opened up my Dialogue: 0,0:21:44.00,0:21:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eyes to WordPress as a worldwide Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.04,0:21:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entity and a community that's Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.76,0:21:53.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,global in nature, but my concern Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.60,0:21:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was these online presentations, Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.92,0:21:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these online events, Wordcamps, Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.32,0:21:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,workshops, et cetera, Dialogue: 0,0:21:59.40,0:22:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was really really wondering whether they Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.60,0:22:03.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could be more accessible. Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.31,0:22:06.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is WordPress doing to make its Dialogue: 0,0:22:06.48,0:22:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,online presence more accessible Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.36,0:22:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to everyone? I'm really big on Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.68,0:22:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inclusion and diversity, and I would Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.44,0:22:15.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,love to hear what WordPress plans to do Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.49,0:22:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moving forward with online events. Dialogue: 0,0:22:17.52,0:22:19.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Have a great holiday Dialogue: 0,0:22:19.76,0:22:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a good New Year, everyone. Dialogue: 0,0:22:21.28,0:22:22.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Take care. Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.92,0:22:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Well, first of all, Joe, Dialogue: 0,0:22:25.28,0:22:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you so much for your Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.96,0:22:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributions and leading by Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.96,0:22:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example, which is, well, many would say Dialogue: 0,0:22:31.44,0:22:33.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the only type of leadership Dialogue: 0,0:22:33.82,0:22:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do believe that as Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.24,0:22:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anxious as I am to get back to Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.92,0:22:39.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our in-person events, I do Dialogue: 0,0:22:39.92,0:22:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believe that much like your Dialogue: 0,0:22:41.52,0:22:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experience of hosting a, you Dialogue: 0,0:22:43.12,0:22:45.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know, a more local WordCamp and Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.13,0:22:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people from all over the world joining, Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.06,0:22:49.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think if we can move more and more of Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.17,0:22:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our community engagement to be Dialogue: 0,0:22:51.84,0:22:55.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really rich and interactive online, Dialogue: 0,0:22:55.35,0:22:57.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we get the benefits of the metaverse, Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.14,0:22:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right? That people can choose to Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.80,0:23:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,represent themselves however Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.48,0:23:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they like or not. They can be treated Dialogue: 0,0:23:04.26,0:23:05.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for their -- and perceived by their Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.93,0:23:07.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributions, their words, Dialogue: 0,0:23:07.71,0:23:08.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how they participate. Dialogue: 0,0:23:08.99,0:23:10.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not necessarily who they are, Dialogue: 0,0:23:10.39,0:23:12.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they're from or any of that. Dialogue: 0,0:23:12.37,0:23:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, when I first got started Dialogue: 0,0:23:15.36,0:23:17.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributing to open source, Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.51,0:23:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't have any of the background Dialogue: 0,0:23:19.28,0:23:21.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or there wasn't really a community Dialogue: 0,0:23:21.54,0:23:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Houston where I was Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.80,0:23:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or anything like that, to see. Dialogue: 0,0:23:25.02,0:23:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I appreciated so much Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.72,0:23:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people would look at, Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.46,0:23:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for me, my code and say, Dialogue: 0,0:23:31.68,0:23:33.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay, this isn't just some young kid Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.93,0:23:36.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Houston who is not a real engineer, Dialogue: 0,0:23:36.49,0:23:38.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were able to look at it for Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.69,0:23:40.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its own merits. Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.53,0:23:42.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:23:42.82,0:23:44.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost 20 years later, Dialogue: 0,0:23:44.45,0:23:46.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can do so much more Dialogue: 0,0:23:46.93,0:23:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than that in terms of Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.48,0:23:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creating a truly, truly Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.56,0:23:51.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inclusive community. Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.100,0:23:53.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other thing that's really, Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.51,0:23:55.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really important to me there and that Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.32,0:23:57.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do see demonstrated throughout WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:23:57.33,0:23:59.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I just want to emphasize it again, Dialogue: 0,0:23:59.13,0:24:01.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is what you mentioned, that idea of Dialogue: 0,0:24:01.28,0:24:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always being welcoming, always being Dialogue: 0,0:24:03.28,0:24:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind, always being friendly, Dialogue: 0,0:24:05.12,0:24:06.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly as more folks from Dialogue: 0,0:24:06.88,0:24:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around the world get involved, Dialogue: 0,0:24:08.40,0:24:09.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's important to remember that Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.91,0:24:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not everyone's first language is English. Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.97,0:24:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so there might be communication Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.08,0:24:15.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,barriers or misunderstandings. Dialogue: 0,0:24:15.71,0:24:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so just -- we have a saying within Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.88,0:24:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Automattic that I think is fantastic Dialogue: 0,0:24:20.76,0:24:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for any sort of distributed work or Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.48,0:24:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collaboration, and it's a Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.84,0:24:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different kind of "API" Dialogue: 0,0:24:25.36,0:24:28.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It stands for Assume Positive Intent. Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.51,0:24:29.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Find that if you can -- Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.91,0:24:32.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this isn't something you can ask of anyone else, Dialogue: 0,0:24:32.06,0:24:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if you can remind yourself of it, Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.92,0:24:35.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it allows you to see other people's Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.89,0:24:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interactions through a lens which, Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.72,0:24:40.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allows you to put your best foot forward Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.75,0:24:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and allows them to Dialogue: 0,0:24:42.48,0:24:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regain their best foot, if they Dialogue: 0,0:24:44.24,0:24:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't put it forward, Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.35,0:24:48.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably on accident with whatever Dialogue: 0,0:24:48.57,0:24:50.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interaction or communication it was. Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.93,0:24:53.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I keep all those things in mind. Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.55,0:24:56.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just to recap, more and more online. Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.18,0:24:58.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, leaning way more into the Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.53,0:25:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,online education, online engagement, Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.72,0:25:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,online mentorship, online – Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.68,0:25:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, everything. Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.02,0:25:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is kind of funny because it is Dialogue: 0,0:25:06.76,0:25:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little bit back to our roots before we Dialogue: 0,0:25:08.74,0:25:09.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever had events Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.64,0:25:11.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remembering that great ideas, Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.45,0:25:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great contributions can come Dialogue: 0,0:25:12.82,0:25:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from everywhere and anywhere, Dialogue: 0,0:25:14.56,0:25:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then making sure Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.00,0:25:18.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people regardless of where they are, Dialogue: 0,0:25:18.25,0:25:20.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the background, the language they speak, Dialogue: 0,0:25:20.29,0:25:21.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their economic ability, anything, Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.95,0:25:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feel fully included Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.26,0:25:24.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the WordPress community. Dialogue: 0,0:25:24.57,0:25:26.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everyone has a place here. Dialogue: 0,0:25:26.02,0:25:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are trying to democratize publishing Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.00,0:25:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and commerce. We are -- and Dialogue: 0,0:25:29.84,0:25:31.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,democratize means it's for everyone. Dialogue: 0,0:25:31.86,0:25:34.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not just for the few, or the elite, Dialogue: 0,0:25:34.87,0:25:35.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or the technical. Dialogue: 0,0:25:35.90,0:25:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's our mission. Dialogue: 0,0:25:36.96,0:25:38.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a lifelong mission. Dialogue: 0,0:25:38.68,0:25:39.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll never be perfect, Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.84,0:25:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I plan to keep working on this Dialogue: 0,0:25:41.52,0:25:43.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the rest of my life, and I hope that -- Dialogue: 0,0:25:43.97,0:25:46.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see you and others alongside Dialogue: 0,0:25:46.56,0:25:47.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that mission Dialogue: 0,0:25:47.70,0:25:49.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for many years and decades to come. Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.96,0:25:53.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi, Matt. My name's Laura. Dialogue: 0,0:25:53.30,0:25:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am a member of the WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.84,0:25:58.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community in Montclair, New Jersey, Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.31,0:26:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I have used WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:26:01.55,0:26:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every day of my life Dialogue: 0,0:26:03.45,0:26:06.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since January of 2006. Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.48,0:26:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm a really early adopter and Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.16,0:26:12.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a longtime user. I'm also somebody Dialogue: 0,0:26:12.40,0:26:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who doesn't code. I'm a content Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.80,0:26:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creator, and I love doing that Dialogue: 0,0:26:18.48,0:26:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and getting all kinds of Dialogue: 0,0:26:20.32,0:26:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,messages out there in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:26:22.80,0:26:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Primarily I've created content Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.48,0:26:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for non-profits, for Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.64,0:26:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entertainment industry websites. Dialogue: 0,0:26:28.80,0:26:31.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I guess my question to you, Matt, is, Dialogue: 0,0:26:31.26,0:26:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I go to WordCamps, Dialogue: 0,0:26:33.76,0:26:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I frequently don't see a lot of tracks Dialogue: 0,0:26:36.92,0:26:39.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for fellow content creators like me. Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.98,0:26:43.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What could you say to the folks who are Dialogue: 0,0:26:43.75,0:26:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,running WordPress events, specifically Dialogue: 0,0:26:47.28,0:26:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress meetups and WordCamps, Dialogue: 0,0:26:50.47,0:26:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that might encourage them Dialogue: 0,0:26:52.26,0:26:55.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to embrace content creators Dialogue: 0,0:26:55.12,0:26:57.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and think about creating more Dialogue: 0,0:26:57.28,0:27:01.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tracks for users that were less technical? Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.88,0:27:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hey, Laura. I think this is Dialogue: 0,0:27:04.80,0:27:06.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an excellent question and one Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.40,0:27:08.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's really important to me. Dialogue: 0,0:27:08.37,0:27:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that content is the thing Dialogue: 0,0:27:11.04,0:27:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that gives your website power Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.00,0:27:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and meaning. It's wonderful to Dialogue: 0,0:27:15.68,0:27:17.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a well-built, well-constructed, Dialogue: 0,0:27:17.82,0:27:19.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well-designed website, Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.50,0:27:21.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if you don't have anything for Dialogue: 0,0:27:21.17,0:27:23.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your users once they arrive, Dialogue: 0,0:27:23.10,0:27:25.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not certain that your website is Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.44,0:27:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really doing its best job for you. Dialogue: 0,0:27:27.52,0:27:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so to encourage event organizers Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.96,0:27:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to embrace content creators and Dialogue: 0,0:27:33.36,0:27:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make sure that we have provided Dialogue: 0,0:27:35.44,0:27:39.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,content for them to up-level their skills, Dialogue: 0,0:27:39.03,0:27:41.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the thing that's most important to Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.05,0:27:42.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remember is that writing for the Dialogue: 0,0:27:42.71,0:27:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,internet is a specific and Dialogue: 0,0:27:44.88,0:27:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different skill. Dialogue: 0,0:27:46.38,0:27:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not the same as technical writing, Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.92,0:27:52.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's not the same as writing prose. Dialogue: 0,0:27:52.09,0:27:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when we want to have Dialogue: 0,0:27:54.88,0:27:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very good websites that are Dialogue: 0,0:27:56.88,0:27:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,engaging to our audiences but Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.72,0:28:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still get the point across, Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.32,0:28:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the only way to do it is Dialogue: 0,0:28:02.32,0:28:04.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with excellent content, no matter Dialogue: 0,0:28:04.22,0:28:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how that looks for you, Dialogue: 0,0:28:05.44,0:28:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the best way for us to help Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.12,0:28:08.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPressers do that is to Dialogue: 0,0:28:08.72,0:28:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,provide training through our Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.96,0:28:13.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordCamps, meetups, et cetera. Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.95,0:28:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi, Matt. I'm Lax here. Dialogue: 0,0:28:15.58,0:28:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Using WordPress more than ten years. Dialogue: 0,0:28:19.84,0:28:24.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And congrats for Dialogue: 0,0:28:24.01,0:28:26.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,growing up to 40% of the web. Dialogue: 0,0:28:26.79,0:28:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's nice. Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.68,0:28:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my question for you today is, Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.14,0:28:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you have any plans to optimize Dialogue: 0,0:28:35.04,0:28:37.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress performance? Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.39,0:28:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean the self-hosted WordPress. Dialogue: 0,0:28:39.32,0:28:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.38,0:28:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have Jetpack, we have caching plugins, Dialogue: 0,0:28:42.86,0:28:45.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I found not only me, Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.51,0:28:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my clients, and I see Dialogue: 0,0:28:47.84,0:28:49.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bloggers and everyone struggle Dialogue: 0,0:28:49.52,0:28:51.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the performance, Dialogue: 0,0:28:51.31,0:28:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also like optimizing the database Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.44,0:28:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,queries -- like, to get a simple Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.64,0:29:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tag or category, we are running Dialogue: 0,0:29:00.56,0:29:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,too much of subqueries, right? Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.84,0:29:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sure you are a programmer Dialogue: 0,0:29:06.72,0:29:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yourself, so you might have some Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.96,0:29:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plans for the future. And good Dialogue: 0,0:29:11.84,0:29:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,luck with our motto, like Dialogue: 0,0:29:14.64,0:29:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,democratizing the web. Thank Dialogue: 0,0:29:16.48,0:29:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you. Dialogue: 0,0:29:17.32,0:29:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Howdy, Lax. You hit on one of Dialogue: 0,0:29:19.92,0:29:21.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my favorite topics, which is Dialogue: 0,0:29:21.04,0:29:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,performance. I was really Dialogue: 0,0:29:22.40,0:29:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,excited that we were able to get Dialogue: 0,0:29:23.52,0:29:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some performance improvements Dialogue: 0,0:29:24.80,0:29:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into WordPress 5.4, as I talked Dialogue: 0,0:29:27.04,0:29:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about in the talk, but there's Dialogue: 0,0:29:29.52,0:29:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always more to do. That's the Dialogue: 0,0:29:30.48,0:29:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beautiful thing about Dialogue: 0,0:29:31.12,0:29:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,performance, is it can always be Dialogue: 0,0:29:32.32,0:29:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better. For the issues that you Dialogue: 0,0:29:34.80,0:29:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,describe, I would encourage you Dialogue: 0,0:29:36.72,0:29:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to perhaps check out a different Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.64,0:29:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,web post. If you're running into Dialogue: 0,0:29:40.96,0:29:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that frequent of performance Dialogue: 0,0:29:42.16,0:29:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,issues, there might be something Dialogue: 0,0:29:43.60,0:29:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where, you know, they have you Dialogue: 0,0:29:44.96,0:29:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a server with too many other Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.08,0:29:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clients or they don't have SSDs Dialogue: 0,0:29:49.12,0:29:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the servers or whatever it Dialogue: 0,0:29:50.24,0:29:53.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is. But any modern performant Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.12,0:29:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress web post, primarily Dialogue: 0,0:29:54.72,0:29:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ones we recommend on Dialogue: 0,0:29:56.00,0:29:59.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wordpress.org can really handle Dialogue: 0,0:29:59.36,0:30:01.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a ton of traffic to even an Dialogue: 0,0:30:01.36,0:30:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,un-cached, unconfigured site. Dialogue: 0,0:30:04.48,0:30:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's always great. In terms of Dialogue: 0,0:30:06.32,0:30:07.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things in core that we could do Dialogue: 0,0:30:07.60,0:30:10.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make it better, our queries, Dialogue: 0,0:30:10.40,0:30:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do believe they're pretty Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.60,0:30:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,optimized. They run in a lot of Dialogue: 0,0:30:12.96,0:30:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,places, but who knows, maybe a Dialogue: 0,0:30:14.64,0:30:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,new future got introduced, maybe Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.00,0:30:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something regressed. So, Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.44,0:30:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please, if there is something Dialogue: 0,0:30:18.80,0:30:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out there that you have noticed, Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.76,0:30:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,either open a track ticket or, Dialogue: 0,0:30:24.32,0:30:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, share it with someone Dialogue: 0,0:30:25.52,0:30:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or if you, you know, debugging Dialogue: 0,0:30:27.20,0:30:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,queries is actually one of the Dialogue: 0,0:30:28.16,0:30:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ways I learned the most about Dialogue: 0,0:30:29.84,0:30:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,programming and engineering, Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.20,0:30:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just spending hours and hours Dialogue: 0,0:30:32.48,0:30:34.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inside the mySQL command line Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.32,0:30:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was -- was actually an amazing Dialogue: 0,0:30:37.52,0:30:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of way I developed as a Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.88,0:30:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developer and progressed as a Dialogue: 0,0:30:40.16,0:30:41.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developer. So it might be Dialogue: 0,0:30:41.76,0:30:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something -- you can discover Dialogue: 0,0:30:43.12,0:30:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something new within WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.64,0:30:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that then could save millions Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.96,0:30:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and millions of server hours Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.04,0:30:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,someplace. So, let me know what Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.68,0:30:54.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you find or let me know if that Dialogue: 0,0:30:54.20,0:30:55.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- if you make a ticket there. Dialogue: 0,0:30:55.52,0:30:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll make sure to bump it with Dialogue: 0,0:30:56.56,0:30:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the developers and that it gets Dialogue: 0,0:30:58.24,0:30:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the proper attention. Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.04,0:31:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> 2020 brought new and Dialogue: 0,0:31:02.48,0:31:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unexpected challenges, and I'm Dialogue: 0,0:31:04.48,0:31:05.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,proud to be a part of a Dialogue: 0,0:31:05.68,0:31:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community like WordPress, Dialogue: 0,0:31:07.20,0:31:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,willing to step up, act quickly Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.12,0:31:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and offer solutions in times of Dialogue: 0,0:31:10.96,0:31:12.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need. Which emerging web Dialogue: 0,0:31:12.88,0:31:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technologies are you most Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.16,0:31:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interested in following in 2021 Dialogue: 0,0:31:17.12,0:31:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how would you like to see Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.48,0:31:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,groups like MSP Media within the Dialogue: 0,0:31:20.56,0:31:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress ecosystem innovating Dialogue: 0,0:31:23.28,0:31:25.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and solution-building using that Dialogue: 0,0:31:25.04,0:31:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technology? Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.60,0:31:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi, Meg. First of all, Dialogue: 0,0:31:29.36,0:31:30.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,congratulations for getting Dialogue: 0,0:31:30.56,0:31:31.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,SchoolListIt in the Call for Dialogue: 0,0:31:31.52,0:31:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Code Top Five. I believe the Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.24,0:31:35.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress power tool to make it Dialogue: 0,0:31:35.92,0:31:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the furthest. I know that wasn't Dialogue: 0,0:31:37.36,0:31:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,easy, so congratulations on Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.72,0:31:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that. In terms of emerging Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.96,0:31:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technologies, more broadly, I'm Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.16,0:31:45.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,excited that 2020 looks like Dialogue: 0,0:31:45.92,0:31:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a year when more mainstream Dialogue: 0,0:31:48.48,0:31:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adoption of cryptocurrencies is Dialogue: 0,0:31:51.68,0:31:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really coming to bear, and that, Dialogue: 0,0:31:53.68,0:31:55.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to me, you know, as someone who Dialogue: 0,0:31:55.12,0:31:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a big supporter of open Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.48,0:31:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,source and cryptocurrency is Dialogue: 0,0:31:58.64,0:32:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of like open source applied Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.00,0:32:01.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to money, the finance system. Dialogue: 0,0:32:02.48,0:32:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Excited about that. Still very, Dialogue: 0,0:32:04.00,0:32:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very early days. Probably, like, Dialogue: 0,0:32:06.08,0:32:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, we're 10 years into Dialogue: 0,0:32:07.36,0:32:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that's going to take Dialogue: 0,0:32:08.08,0:32:10.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,30 years to happen, but it's Dialogue: 0,0:32:10.64,0:32:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exciting to see steps. Closer to Dialogue: 0,0:32:13.12,0:32:16.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,home in the WordPress world, the Dialogue: 0,0:32:16.24,0:32:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most emerging technologies -- Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.52,0:32:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not new, but they'll be new to Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.56,0:32:20.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,us when we adopt it for Phase 3 Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.08,0:32:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Gutenberg will be Web RTC, Dialogue: 0,0:32:22.16,0:32:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is essentially like a way Dialogue: 0,0:32:23.92,0:32:25.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for browsers to connect to each Dialogue: 0,0:32:25.44,0:32:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other in a peer-to-peer fashion Dialogue: 0,0:32:26.96,0:32:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we can use for real-time Dialogue: 0,0:32:28.08,0:32:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,communication, so, for example, Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.52,0:32:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the real-time co-editing that we Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.28,0:32:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to put into Gutenberg, and Dialogue: 0,0:32:33.12,0:32:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we want to do it without a Dialogue: 0,0:32:33.92,0:32:35.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,centralized server so that, you Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.92,0:32:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know, clients will be able to Dialogue: 0,0:32:37.04,0:32:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connect to each other directly. Dialogue: 0,0:32:40.08,0:32:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A little simpler, and I guess Dialogue: 0,0:32:42.72,0:32:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't know if you'd call it Dialogue: 0,0:32:43.44,0:32:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emerging, but it's something we Dialogue: 0,0:32:44.80,0:32:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to do a lot better at, is Dialogue: 0,0:32:46.00,0:32:48.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,native development. So both the Dialogue: 0,0:32:48.16,0:32:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mobile apps on iOS and Android Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.24,0:32:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and native desktop apps for Dialogue: 0,0:32:51.60,0:32:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress, I think have a lot of Dialogue: 0,0:32:54.24,0:32:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,potential for just creating a Dialogue: 0,0:32:56.16,0:32:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really slick, highly integrated, Dialogue: 0,0:32:58.72,0:33:01.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ultra-fast application-like Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.36,0:33:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interface for WordPress. We've Dialogue: 0,0:33:03.12,0:33:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got the APIs for it now. We've Dialogue: 0,0:33:05.60,0:33:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got some good starts, including Dialogue: 0,0:33:08.40,0:33:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of the code that's based on Dialogue: 0,0:33:09.36,0:33:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Calypso, which is the Dialogue: 0,0:33:10.32,0:33:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,open-source React framework that Dialogue: 0,0:33:12.16,0:33:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,runs with WordPress.com. So Dialogue: 0,0:33:13.92,0:33:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is some good stuff there, Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.96,0:33:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I would like to see a lot Dialogue: 0,0:33:16.88,0:33:18.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more, so, thank you for your Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.16,0:33:18.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question. Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.84,0:33:21.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi, Matt. I'm Michelle Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.04,0:33:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Frechette, Head of Customer Dialogue: 0,0:33:22.24,0:33:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Success at GiveWP, volunteer for Dialogue: 0,0:33:24.48,0:33:26.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress and Big Orange Heart, Dialogue: 0,0:33:26.08,0:33:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and podcaster at WP Coffee Talk. Dialogue: 0,0:33:28.64,0:33:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've seen the WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:33:29.60,0:33:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community grow and morph over Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.72,0:33:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the years and it's been amazing. Dialogue: 0,0:33:32.40,0:33:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This year changed a lot of the Dialogue: 0,0:33:33.84,0:33:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way the community meets and Dialogue: 0,0:33:35.28,0:33:37.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interacts due to the pandemic. Dialogue: 0,0:33:37.28,0:33:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of it has been Dialogue: 0,0:33:38.00,0:33:39.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heartbreaking, like not meeting Dialogue: 0,0:33:39.36,0:33:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in person, but so much good has Dialogue: 0,0:33:41.04,0:33:42.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come from it, too, like people Dialogue: 0,0:33:42.32,0:33:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connecting from outside of their Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.60,0:33:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,areas on meet-ups, online Dialogue: 0,0:33:45.12,0:33:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conferences and more. My Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.28,0:33:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question is, what do you see for Dialogue: 0,0:33:49.04,0:33:50.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the future of the WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:33:50.08,0:33:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community as we move forward in Dialogue: 0,0:33:51.84,0:33:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still uncertain times? What Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.68,0:33:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,initiatives should we be looking Dialogue: 0,0:33:55.04,0:33:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forward to and what kind of Dialogue: 0,0:33:56.56,0:33:58.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,support can we expect for our Dialogue: 0,0:33:58.16,0:33:59.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,communities? Thanks for Dialogue: 0,0:33:59.68,0:34:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,providing the online State of Dialogue: 0,0:34:00.88,0:34:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Word and an opportunity to Dialogue: 0,0:34:02.32,0:34:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contribute with questions. Dialogue: 0,0:34:04.44,0:34:07.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi, Michelle. Thanks for Dialogue: 0,0:34:07.28,0:34:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking time to send in a Dialogue: 0,0:34:08.88,0:34:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question. Andrea Middleton here. Dialogue: 0,0:34:12.72,0:34:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gosh, the changes that we have Dialogue: 0,0:34:14.80,0:34:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weathered this year have been Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.32,0:34:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,immense, haven't they? I agree Dialogue: 0,0:34:19.68,0:34:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with both the heartbreak and the Dialogue: 0,0:34:21.76,0:34:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unexpected benefits that you Dialogue: 0,0:34:23.12,0:34:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pointed out. When I think about Dialogue: 0,0:34:25.52,0:34:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the future holds for of the Dialogue: 0,0:34:26.80,0:34:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress community, though, Dialogue: 0,0:34:28.64,0:34:30.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially as we move out of Dialogue: 0,0:34:30.56,0:34:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2020, but potentially into more Dialogue: 0,0:34:33.12,0:34:35.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uncertainty, I'm really Dialogue: 0,0:34:35.20,0:34:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,optimistic. I know that Dialogue: 0,0:34:37.68,0:34:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress enthusiasts are Dialogue: 0,0:34:39.28,0:34:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,incredibly resourceful and Dialogue: 0,0:34:41.04,0:34:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resilient in the face of Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.40,0:34:44.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adversity, as we've proven this Dialogue: 0,0:34:44.56,0:34:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,year in many ways. The Dialogue: 0,0:34:46.88,0:34:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,initiative I'm most excited Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.40,0:34:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about moving into 2021 is the Dialogue: 0,0:34:50.80,0:34:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Learn WordPress platform, which Dialogue: 0,0:34:53.68,0:34:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,formally launched this week. Dialogue: 0,0:34:56.08,0:34:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This on-demand WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.92,0:34:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,training platform has the Dialogue: 0,0:34:59.52,0:35:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,potential to build more bridges Dialogue: 0,0:35:02.56,0:35:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and paths to WordPress and Dialogue: 0,0:35:04.88,0:35:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,success in WordPress than we've Dialogue: 0,0:35:07.04,0:35:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever seen at a time when more Dialogue: 0,0:35:09.68,0:35:12.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people than ever are looking to Dialogue: 0,0:35:12.64,0:35:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,move their businesses online or Dialogue: 0,0:35:14.56,0:35:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shift careers and become Dialogue: 0,0:35:16.32,0:35:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress professionals. I hope Dialogue: 0,0:35:18.96,0:35:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see a great deal of support Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.80,0:35:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for this effort from Dialogue: 0,0:35:22.08,0:35:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress-based businesses as Dialogue: 0,0:35:23.84,0:35:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well as individual contributors Dialogue: 0,0:35:26.16,0:35:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who want to help others to help Dialogue: 0,0:35:28.32,0:35:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress as they themselves Dialogue: 0,0:35:30.88,0:35:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been helped. The support we Dialogue: 0,0:35:34.00,0:35:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in WordPress provide to each Dialogue: 0,0:35:36.00,0:35:39.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other is all about how small Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.92,0:35:43.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kindnesses build into great and Dialogue: 0,0:35:43.68,0:35:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interdependent, powerful Dialogue: 0,0:35:45.36,0:35:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organizations. And I don't see Dialogue: 0,0:35:47.28,0:35:48.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that changing any time soon. Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.84,0:35:51.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thanks so much for asking. Dialogue: 0,0:35:51.68,0:35:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Talk to you later. Dialogue: 0,0:35:54.60,0:35:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hello. I'm Milana, a Dialogue: 0,0:35:57.52,0:35:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,freelance WordPress developer Dialogue: 0,0:35:59.12,0:36:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,based in Serbia and also an Dialogue: 0,0:36:01.84,0:36:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,active member of the Dialogue: 0,0:36:03.44,0:36:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,documentation team, and that is Dialogue: 0,0:36:05.20,0:36:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the subject of my question Dialogue: 0,0:36:07.12,0:36:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,today. So as I see it, there are Dialogue: 0,0:36:11.12,0:36:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two major problems which are not Dialogue: 0,0:36:13.12,0:36:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unique only to the documentation Dialogue: 0,0:36:14.72,0:36:16.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,team. All teams seem to be Dialogue: 0,0:36:16.24,0:36:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suffering from same conditions. Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.96,0:36:21.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the first one is we are Dialogue: 0,0:36:21.04,0:36:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heavily understaffed. We don't Dialogue: 0,0:36:23.52,0:36:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have enough active contributors Dialogue: 0,0:36:26.16,0:36:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to cover all documentation Dialogue: 0,0:36:28.16,0:36:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,areas, and the second one is we Dialogue: 0,0:36:31.20,0:36:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't collaborate enough or at Dialogue: 0,0:36:34.40,0:36:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all with other teams. And this Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.72,0:36:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,goes that far that sometimes we Dialogue: 0,0:36:38.88,0:36:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't even know who is the Dialogue: 0,0:36:40.08,0:36:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,person doing documentation for Dialogue: 0,0:36:42.08,0:36:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,release team, you know, the dev Dialogue: 0,0:36:44.08,0:36:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,notes. Also, there was this huge Dialogue: 0,0:36:46.80,0:36:49.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gap between Gutenberg and the Dialogue: 0,0:36:49.68,0:36:51.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,documentation team and it's Dialogue: 0,0:36:51.28,0:36:52.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting bridged this year, but Dialogue: 0,0:36:54.08,0:36:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it shouldn't even happen with Dialogue: 0,0:36:55.68,0:36:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such a project as Gutenberg is. Dialogue: 0,0:36:58.24,0:37:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm not saying that anyone Dialogue: 0,0:37:00.48,0:37:02.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here is doing anything wrong. We Dialogue: 0,0:37:02.88,0:37:05.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all do as much as we can. I'm Dialogue: 0,0:37:05.36,0:37:08.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just stating how it is. So, my Dialogue: 0,0:37:08.56,0:37:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question is, how can we, as Dialogue: 0,0:37:12.32,0:37:15.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,global community, recognize this Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.52,0:37:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to connect teams, to work Dialogue: 0,0:37:18.72,0:37:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more closely with each other? In Dialogue: 0,0:37:21.84,0:37:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,documentation team, we are Dialogue: 0,0:37:23.92,0:37:26.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working right now on two big Dialogue: 0,0:37:26.80,0:37:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,projects, external linking Dialogue: 0,0:37:28.96,0:37:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,policy and documentation style Dialogue: 0,0:37:31.12,0:37:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guide. Now, these will have Dialogue: 0,0:37:33.52,0:37:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,impact beyond documentation Dialogue: 0,0:37:36.24,0:37:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,team, and I'm not even sure how Dialogue: 0,0:37:39.28,0:37:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many people are aware of the Dialogue: 0,0:37:40.72,0:37:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fact that we are doing it. So, Dialogue: 0,0:37:44.80,0:37:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from my perspective, WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:37:46.72,0:37:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a project is getting more Dialogue: 0,0:37:48.48,0:37:51.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complex, and the way we were Dialogue: 0,0:37:51.12,0:37:53.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing things in the past and the Dialogue: 0,0:37:53.04,0:37:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way we are doing things right Dialogue: 0,0:37:54.72,0:37:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now is not sufficient anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:37:58.80,0:38:01.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I guess it comes down to Dialogue: 0,0:38:02.00,0:38:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rethinking what is the role of Dialogue: 0,0:38:05.36,0:38:06.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making teams in WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:38:06.88,0:38:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,project. Dialogue: 0,0:38:07.36,0:38:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[ Sound effect ]\NAnd how can we improve our Dialogue: 0,0:38:11.60,0:38:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,activities to make our work more Dialogue: 0,0:38:14.72,0:38:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,efficient in this situation that Dialogue: 0,0:38:18.00,0:38:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are all in, that we don't Dialogue: 0,0:38:19.60,0:38:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have enough people and we don't Dialogue: 0,0:38:21.68,0:38:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,communicate. We need to Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.12,0:38:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,communicate more. So what is Dialogue: 0,0:38:25.36,0:38:28.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your opinion on that? Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:38:29.72,0:38:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hey, Milana, it sounds like Dialogue: 0,0:38:32.24,0:38:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have two big questions, and Dialogue: 0,0:38:34.40,0:38:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have two big thoughts about Dialogue: 0,0:38:36.08,0:38:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them. Firstly, on the question Dialogue: 0,0:38:38.32,0:38:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of recognizing how connected we Dialogue: 0,0:38:40.96,0:38:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are, I agree. WordPress teams Dialogue: 0,0:38:43.60,0:38:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,frequently don't understand how Dialogue: 0,0:38:45.20,0:38:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connected they are, a little bit Dialogue: 0,0:38:47.28,0:38:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's hard to know how Dialogue: 0,0:38:48.64,0:38:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your actions affect others when Dialogue: 0,0:38:50.72,0:38:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you just barely have enough time Dialogue: 0,0:38:52.72,0:38:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to focus on the contributions Dialogue: 0,0:38:54.16,0:38:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you want to make to the Dialogue: 0,0:38:55.20,0:38:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teams that you're participating Dialogue: 0,0:38:56.56,0:38:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with. Myself, I think that Dialogue: 0,0:38:58.80,0:39:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sharing the internal workings a Dialogue: 0,0:39:00.16,0:39:02.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bit better from my side can help Dialogue: 0,0:39:02.40,0:39:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,us all to know who we might need Dialogue: 0,0:39:04.16,0:39:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to collaborate with during Dialogue: 0,0:39:05.44,0:39:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,projects, and I'm working up a Dialogue: 0,0:39:07.76,0:39:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,podcast for 2021 to share Dialogue: 0,0:39:10.00,0:39:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bite-sized insight for Dialogue: 0,0:39:11.68,0:39:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributors who want to know Dialogue: 0,0:39:13.28,0:39:14.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more about how their Dialogue: 0,0:39:14.80,0:39:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributions fit into the Dialogue: 0,0:39:16.88,0:39:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,larger picture. But I also Dialogue: 0,0:39:19.20,0:39:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understand that part of the Dialogue: 0,0:39:20.32,0:39:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solution is getting more Dialogue: 0,0:39:22.00,0:39:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributors into the space, and Dialogue: 0,0:39:24.08,0:39:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't necessarily have a Dialogue: 0,0:39:25.36,0:39:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solution for that outside of our Dialogue: 0,0:39:27.68,0:39:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in-person events, which, of Dialogue: 0,0:39:28.80,0:39:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,course, in 2020 we haven't seen Dialogue: 0,0:39:31.04,0:39:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of. But it does kind of Dialogue: 0,0:39:33.12,0:39:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lead us into your next question, Dialogue: 0,0:39:35.44,0:39:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,given that WordPress is so Dialogue: 0,0:39:37.52,0:39:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complex and there aren't enough Dialogue: 0,0:39:39.52,0:39:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people, not enough Dialogue: 0,0:39:40.40,0:39:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,communication, what can we do? I Dialogue: 0,0:39:43.60,0:39:44.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been on the more- Dialogue: 0,0:39:44.80,0:39:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,communication bandwagon for a Dialogue: 0,0:39:47.36,0:39:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,long time. But I actually think Dialogue: 0,0:39:50.64,0:39:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that one of our short-term Dialogue: 0,0:39:51.92,0:39:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problems as a project is how to Dialogue: 0,0:39:54.16,0:39:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take our efficient communication Dialogue: 0,0:39:56.56,0:39:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and make it more effective. I'm Dialogue: 0,0:39:59.04,0:40:01.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gonna quote for you now the 19th Dialogue: 0,0:40:01.28,0:40:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lesson from The Cathedral and Dialogue: 0,0:40:03.20,0:40:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Bazaar, our kind of source Dialogue: 0,0:40:04.88,0:40:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,material for things that we've Dialogue: 0,0:40:06.32,0:40:09.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learned about open source in Dialogue: 0,0:40:10.40,0:40:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,general. To quote it, it says, Dialogue: 0,0:40:13.20,0:40:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"provided the development Dialogue: 0,0:40:14.32,0:40:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coordinator has a communications Dialogue: 0,0:40:16.16,0:40:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,medium at least as good as the Dialogue: 0,0:40:18.00,0:40:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,internet and knows how to lead Dialogue: 0,0:40:20.24,0:40:22.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without coercion, many heads are Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.32,0:40:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inevitability better than one." Dialogue: 0,0:40:25.28,0:40:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And later in the document, later Dialogue: 0,0:40:28.80,0:40:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this -- in this piece of Dialogue: 0,0:40:30.32,0:40:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,writing, it's noted that open Dialogue: 0,0:40:33.92,0:40:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,source at scale can't Dialogue: 0,0:40:35.84,0:40:39.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,necessarily function very Dialogue: 0,0:40:39.84,0:40:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,effectively by constantly having Dialogue: 0,0:40:42.64,0:40:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chaos all the time. It's hard Dialogue: 0,0:40:44.40,0:40:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for human beings to work in that Dialogue: 0,0:40:46.24,0:40:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of space, and so I think Dialogue: 0,0:40:47.68,0:40:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that one of our short-term Dialogue: 0,0:40:49.04,0:40:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,questions for the project as a Dialogue: 0,0:40:51.84,0:40:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whole is to make sure that when Dialogue: 0,0:40:54.32,0:40:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we ask people to communicate Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.16,0:40:57.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what they're doing, why Dialogue: 0,0:40:57.28,0:40:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're doing it and where they Dialogue: 0,0:40:58.56,0:41:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are doing it, we have made sure, Dialogue: 0,0:41:00.96,0:41:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as leaders in WordPress, that Dialogue: 0,0:41:03.52,0:41:06.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the plans for the product are Dialogue: 0,0:41:06.48,0:41:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clear, so that everyone makes Dialogue: 0,0:41:08.16,0:41:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good use of their time. Dialogue: 0,0:41:09.96,0:41:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Myself, Monika, I'm working Dialogue: 0,0:41:14.16,0:41:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with WordPress since 2015 and Dialogue: 0,0:41:16.72,0:41:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regular contributing to the Dialogue: 0,0:41:18.00,0:41:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress. My question is about Dialogue: 0,0:41:20.32,0:41:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the automation testing in the Dialogue: 0,0:41:22.08,0:41:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress ecosystem. As we know, Dialogue: 0,0:41:24.88,0:41:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people are very much concerned Dialogue: 0,0:41:26.56,0:41:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the securities and the Dialogue: 0,0:41:28.40,0:41:30.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other issues before upgrading to Dialogue: 0,0:41:30.16,0:41:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the new version. So what are the Dialogue: 0,0:41:33.12,0:41:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things we can implement in our Dialogue: 0,0:41:34.80,0:41:37.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress ecosystem to deliver Dialogue: 0,0:41:37.20,0:41:39.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,100% security? So, basically, Dialogue: 0,0:41:39.92,0:41:41.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what are the automation things Dialogue: 0,0:41:41.36,0:41:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can integrate in our Dialogue: 0,0:41:42.48,0:41:43.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress ecosystem? Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:41:44.68,0:41:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi, Monika. I'm Jonathan. Dialogue: 0,0:41:47.20,0:41:48.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you for asking this Dialogue: 0,0:41:48.08,0:41:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question. Security is always Dialogue: 0,0:41:50.80,0:41:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evolving and changing, and Dialogue: 0,0:41:52.24,0:41:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moving targets are very Dialogue: 0,0:41:53.28,0:41:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difficult to reach definitively. Dialogue: 0,0:41:55.60,0:41:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's also a process that Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.80,0:41:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unfortunately cannot be 100% Dialogue: 0,0:41:58.72,0:42:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,automated. Everyone needs to Dialogue: 0,0:42:00.56,0:42:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learn to practice a Dialogue: 0,0:42:01.68,0:42:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,security-first mindset, but, Dialogue: 0,0:42:04.48,0:42:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thankfully, there are some tools Dialogue: 0,0:42:06.08,0:42:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that can help us in our Dialogue: 0,0:42:07.12,0:42:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,projects. For example, the Dialogue: 0,0:42:09.60,0:42:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress security team has Dialogue: 0,0:42:11.04,0:42:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,several automated testing Dialogue: 0,0:42:12.32,0:42:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,processes behind the scenes. Dialogue: 0,0:42:14.48,0:42:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every change to WordPress core Dialogue: 0,0:42:16.16,0:42:17.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is run through these processes Dialogue: 0,0:42:17.76,0:42:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to protect against known Dialogue: 0,0:42:19.36,0:42:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,security vulnerabilities. The Dialogue: 0,0:42:21.76,0:42:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,processes are continually Dialogue: 0,0:42:23.12,0:42:24.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,changing and expanding as new Dialogue: 0,0:42:24.56,0:42:25.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,security issues are discovered Dialogue: 0,0:42:25.84,0:42:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and fixed. I'm being a little Dialogue: 0,0:42:28.16,0:42:29.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intentionally vague, because Dialogue: 0,0:42:29.36,0:42:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,often security practiced will be Dialogue: 0,0:42:30.96,0:42:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tailored to a certain project or Dialogue: 0,0:42:32.56,0:42:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organization. Being ambiguous Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.72,0:42:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will help you keep your project Dialogue: 0,0:42:36.08,0:42:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more secure. There are also some Dialogue: 0,0:42:39.04,0:42:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,code analysis tools like the PHP Dialogue: 0,0:42:40.80,0:42:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,code sniffer that can be used to Dialogue: 0,0:42:42.24,0:42:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,identify potentially insecure Dialogue: 0,0:42:44.00,0:42:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,code in your project. Adding Dialogue: 0,0:42:46.08,0:42:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these tools to your project and Dialogue: 0,0:42:47.52,0:42:48.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,requiring them to produce a Dialogue: 0,0:42:48.96,0:42:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,passing scan is a great way to Dialogue: 0,0:42:50.80,0:42:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ensure the quality of the code Dialogue: 0,0:42:52.24,0:42:55.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you release. In WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:42:55.36,0:42:57.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,itself, several user-facing Dialogue: 0,0:42:57.28,0:42:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,features have been introduced in Dialogue: 0,0:42:58.56,0:43:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the last few major versions that Dialogue: 0,0:43:00.48,0:43:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make it easier for site owners Dialogue: 0,0:43:02.24,0:43:03.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be more aware of their site Dialogue: 0,0:43:03.76,0:43:06.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,security. The most recent one is Dialogue: 0,0:43:06.40,0:43:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ability to opt in to auto- Dialogue: 0,0:43:08.48,0:43:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,updates for plug-ins and themes. Dialogue: 0,0:43:10.96,0:43:12.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Turning these on is a great way Dialogue: 0,0:43:12.56,0:43:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make sure your sites are Dialogue: 0,0:43:13.84,0:43:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,running the latest and most Dialogue: 0,0:43:15.12,0:43:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,secure code automatically, all Dialogue: 0,0:43:17.12,0:43:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the time. Site Health is another Dialogue: 0,0:43:20.00,0:43:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great example of a user-facing Dialogue: 0,0:43:21.60,0:43:23.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tool. There are over a dozen Dialogue: 0,0:43:23.68,0:43:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,security-related checks included Dialogue: 0,0:43:25.36,0:43:27.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in WordPress core by default, Dialogue: 0,0:43:27.28,0:43:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when they don't pass, site Dialogue: 0,0:43:28.72,0:43:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,health educates the user and Dialogue: 0,0:43:30.48,0:43:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,provides them with a recommend Dialogue: 0,0:43:32.16,0:43:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way forward to fix the issue. Dialogue: 0,0:43:35.04,0:43:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Any plug-in and theme can add Dialogue: 0,0:43:36.56,0:43:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their own test to Site Health. Dialogue: 0,0:43:38.40,0:43:39.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there are any Dialogue: 0,0:43:39.12,0:43:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,security-related checks specific Dialogue: 0,0:43:40.88,0:43:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to your project, adding them at Dialogue: 0,0:43:42.72,0:43:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Site Health is a great way to Dialogue: 0,0:43:44.32,0:43:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make a site owner aware of a Dialogue: 0,0:43:46.08,0:43:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problem automatically. A few of Dialogue: 0,0:43:48.64,0:43:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the tests check that you are Dialogue: 0,0:43:49.76,0:43:51.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,running secure versions of tools Dialogue: 0,0:43:51.44,0:43:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,installed at the server level. Dialogue: 0,0:43:53.60,0:43:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Using PHP as an example, you Dialogue: 0,0:43:55.76,0:43:57.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could set up an email alert Dialogue: 0,0:43:57.12,0:43:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whenever a new version of PHP is Dialogue: 0,0:43:58.80,0:44:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,released. This would help you Dialogue: 0,0:44:00.72,0:44:02.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,automatically become aware of Dialogue: 0,0:44:02.40,0:44:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,security releases so you could Dialogue: 0,0:44:03.84,0:44:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reach out to your host and Dialogue: 0,0:44:05.28,0:44:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,request that they update you to Dialogue: 0,0:44:06.80,0:44:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this new version. Because of our Dialogue: 0,0:44:09.68,0:44:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strong community, we have the Dialogue: 0,0:44:11.28,0:44:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,opportunity to work together to Dialogue: 0,0:44:12.96,0:44:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,continue educating site owners, Dialogue: 0,0:44:15.20,0:44:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,users and developers about Dialogue: 0,0:44:16.96,0:44:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,security best practices. If Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.80,0:44:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone is more aware of Dialogue: 0,0:44:20.00,0:44:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insecure practices, the entire Dialogue: 0,0:44:21.92,0:44:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ecosystem will be elevated as a Dialogue: 0,0:44:23.92,0:44:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,result. I hope that that's Dialogue: 0,0:44:25.76,0:44:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helpful and answers your Dialogue: 0,0:44:26.64,0:44:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,questions, and thank you for Dialogue: 0,0:44:27.84,0:44:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,choosing WordPress. Dialogue: 0,0:44:30.20,0:44:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hey. My name is Robert Dialogue: 0,0:44:33.28,0:44:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anderson. I am a WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:44:35.68,0:44:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,co-contributor living in Sydney, Dialogue: 0,0:44:37.36,0:44:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Australia. Seth Miller wrote in Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.32,0:44:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with this question: As Gutenberg Dialogue: 0,0:44:42.72,0:44:44.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes more modern and feature- Dialogue: 0,0:44:44.48,0:44:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,driven, how do you approach Dialogue: 0,0:44:46.24,0:44:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,onboarding of new contributors Dialogue: 0,0:44:47.92,0:44:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and other curious types - think Dialogue: 0,0:44:49.76,0:44:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,novice theme developer - to look Dialogue: 0,0:44:51.76,0:44:52.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into block building with the Dialogue: 0,0:44:52.96,0:44:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,existing complexity of WebPack Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.88,0:44:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and other build tools? Great Dialogue: 0,0:44:57.60,0:44:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question, Seth. Thank you for Dialogue: 0,0:44:59.04,0:45:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asking it. So, before I get into Dialogue: 0,0:45:02.16,0:45:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the meat of Seth's question, Dialogue: 0,0:45:04.16,0:45:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's two quick things that I Dialogue: 0,0:45:05.60,0:45:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to note. Firstly, one of Dialogue: 0,0:45:08.16,0:45:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the aims of the Block Editor is Dialogue: 0,0:45:09.60,0:45:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make it so that users can Dialogue: 0,0:45:11.28,0:45:13.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,create really ambitious websites Dialogue: 0,0:45:13.04,0:45:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without having to be a theme Dialogue: 0,0:45:14.40,0:45:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developer. So as an example, if Dialogue: 0,0:45:16.88,0:45:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you insert a custom HTML block Dialogue: 0,0:45:19.12,0:45:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then save that as a Dialogue: 0,0:45:20.24,0:45:22.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reusable block, you've more or Dialogue: 0,0:45:22.32,0:45:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,less created a new block without Dialogue: 0,0:45:23.84,0:45:25.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having to write a single line of Dialogue: 0,0:45:25.04,0:45:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,code, which is really cool. Dialogue: 0,0:45:27.60,0:45:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Secondly, tools like WebPack are Dialogue: 0,0:45:29.92,0:45:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,totally optional. Developers can Dialogue: 0,0:45:32.48,0:45:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,write a block using plain old Dialogue: 0,0:45:34.96,0:45:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JavaScript that all web browsers Dialogue: 0,0:45:37.04,0:45:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will understand, and, in fact, Dialogue: 0,0:45:39.44,0:45:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you load up the Gutenberg Dialogue: 0,0:45:40.88,0:45:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,handbook, you'll see that all of Dialogue: 0,0:45:42.72,0:45:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our code examples there come in Dialogue: 0,0:45:44.16,0:45:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two flavors, ESNext, which has Dialogue: 0,0:45:46.72,0:45:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the bells whistles, Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.92,0:45:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including React's JSX, and ES5, Dialogue: 0,0:45:51.68,0:45:57.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which doesn't. But, yes building Dialogue: 0,0:45:57.44,0:45:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blocks and working with React, Dialogue: 0,0:45:59.04,0:46:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a lot easier if you are able Dialogue: 0,0:46:01.52,0:46:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to use React's JSX syntax, so Dialogue: 0,0:46:04.40,0:46:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,setting up some kind of build Dialogue: 0,0:46:05.84,0:46:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tooling is often worth the Dialogue: 0,0:46:07.12,0:46:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up-front effort, and, yes, I Dialogue: 0,0:46:09.44,0:46:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,100% agree that this is very Dialogue: 0,0:46:12.00,0:46:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,challenging and can be pretty Dialogue: 0,0:46:13.28,0:46:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,off-putting to new developers. Dialogue: 0,0:46:16.40,0:46:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Broadly speaking, I think that Dialogue: 0,0:46:18.56,0:46:20.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's two things that we can Dialogue: 0,0:46:20.40,0:46:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do to make this easier: Tooling Dialogue: 0,0:46:22.72,0:46:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and education. On the tooling Dialogue: 0,0:46:25.12,0:46:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,front, we now have some really Dialogue: 0,0:46:27.12,0:46:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,neat tools that make getting set Dialogue: 0,0:46:28.56,0:46:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up with block development a lot Dialogue: 0,0:46:29.84,0:46:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,easier. The first, which is Dialogue: 0,0:46:32.00,0:46:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developed by the core team at Dialogue: 0,0:46:33.52,0:46:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress, is WordPress/scripts. Dialogue: 0,0:46:37.12,0:46:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a npm package that hides Dialogue: 0,0:46:39.68,0:46:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,away all of the complexity of Dialogue: 0,0:46:41.20,0:46:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,webpack and gives you a single Dialogue: 0,0:46:43.28,0:46:45.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,command that turns a source Dialogue: 0,0:46:45.04,0:46:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,directory of JavaScript, which Dialogue: 0,0:46:47.52,0:46:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has all the fancy syntax, into a Dialogue: 0,0:46:49.76,0:46:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,build directory of compiled Dialogue: 0,0:46:51.92,0:46:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JavaScript. The second, Dialogue: 0,0:46:56.72,0:46:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developed by the WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:46:58.24,0:47:01.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community is "create-guten-block." Dialogue: 0,0:47:01.16,0:47:02.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This one gives you a Dialogue: 0,0:47:02.88,0:47:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,single command that instantly Dialogue: 0,0:47:04.32,0:47:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creates an entire block plugin Dialogue: 0,0:47:06.32,0:47:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for you. It does all the work of Dialogue: 0,0:47:08.16,0:47:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,configuring the build Dialogue: 0,0:47:09.20,0:47:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,environment and generates, like, Dialogue: 0,0:47:11.44,0:47:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the necessary PHP to load things Dialogue: 0,0:47:13.44,0:47:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into WordPress. It's really Dialogue: 0,0:47:14.88,0:47:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite straightforward. On the Dialogue: 0,0:47:18.48,0:47:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,education front, we have some Dialogue: 0,0:47:20.48,0:47:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really great tutorials in the Dialogue: 0,0:47:22.08,0:47:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gutenberg handbook which cover Dialogue: 0,0:47:23.52,0:47:25.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to get set up with block Dialogue: 0,0:47:25.04,0:47:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,development using WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:47:27.28,0:47:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,script and you can see them at Dialogue: 0,0:47:29.68,0:47:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wordpress.org/gutenberg/handbook Dialogue: 0,0:47:34.80,0:47:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, lastly, the WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:47:36.24,0:47:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,training team has just recently Dialogue: 0,0:47:38.72,0:47:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learned learn.wordpress.org Dialogue: 0,0:47:41.84,0:47:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a new home for video Dialogue: 0,0:47:43.44,0:47:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,workshops about WordPress. And Dialogue: 0,0:47:45.60,0:47:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the video workshops there Dialogue: 0,0:47:47.12,0:47:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by Jonathan Bossenger is all Dialogue: 0,0:47:49.92,0:47:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about how to develop a block, so Dialogue: 0,0:47:52.48,0:47:53.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,definitely check that out and Dialogue: 0,0:47:53.60,0:47:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,definitely watch that space. I Dialogue: 0,0:47:57.68,0:47:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hope that was helpful. I hope I Dialogue: 0,0:47:58.88,0:48:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,answered your question. And Dialogue: 0,0:48:00.88,0:48:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you for choosing Dialogue: 0,0:48:01.68,0:48:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress. Dialogue: 0,0:48:02.24,0:48:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi. My name is Sudar Muthu. Dialogue: 0,0:48:04.96,0:48:06.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm from a city called Chennai Dialogue: 0,0:48:06.40,0:48:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the southern part of India. Dialogue: 0,0:48:08.32,0:48:09.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been involved with Dialogue: 0,0:48:09.28,0:48:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress for about 15 years Dialogue: 0,0:48:10.88,0:48:12.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now, and for the past six years, Dialogue: 0,0:48:12.80,0:48:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been working as a full-time Dialogue: 0,0:48:14.08,0:48:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress developer. In short, Dialogue: 0,0:48:16.16,0:48:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress is what puts food on Dialogue: 0,0:48:17.84,0:48:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my table. So here's my question. Dialogue: 0,0:48:20.56,0:48:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it's been about 17 years Dialogue: 0,0:48:22.40,0:48:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since the first version of Dialogue: 0,0:48:23.52,0:48:25.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress has been released, and Dialogue: 0,0:48:25.04,0:48:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of us know where WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:48:27.20,0:48:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is there right now. So my Dialogue: 0,0:48:28.88,0:48:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question is, where do you see Dialogue: 0,0:48:31.12,0:48:33.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress in the next 17 years? Dialogue: 0,0:48:34.88,0:48:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:48:35.28,0:48:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Sudar, 17 years is such a Dialogue: 0,0:48:38.16,0:48:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,long time! Sometimes I feel Dialogue: 0,0:48:40.80,0:48:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amazed that I've been doing Dialogue: 0,0:48:42.16,0:48:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress for this long. I think Dialogue: 0,0:48:44.96,0:48:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my hope is the same as many Dialogue: 0,0:48:46.88,0:48:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,others in the WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:48:47.84,0:48:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community, that by 2037 we've Dialogue: 0,0:48:51.92,0:48:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gotten the vast majority, maybe Dialogue: 0,0:48:54.40,0:48:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as close to 100% as we can get Dialogue: 0,0:48:56.16,0:48:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the web on open source Dialogue: 0,0:48:57.36,0:48:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,software. I'd love to see Dialogue: 0,0:48:59.60,0:49:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gutenberg used not just by Dialogue: 0,0:49:02.16,0:49:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress, but by all of its Dialogue: 0,0:49:04.00,0:49:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,competitors as well, by everyone Dialogue: 0,0:49:05.76,0:49:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is accepting text in a box Dialogue: 0,0:49:08.00,0:49:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the internet or on native. Dialogue: 0,0:49:10.32,0:49:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd love them to build on Dialogue: 0,0:49:11.84,0:49:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gutenberg Blocks, because then Dialogue: 0,0:49:13.68,0:49:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that allows us to work together Dialogue: 0,0:49:14.96,0:49:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on something that we all used to Dialogue: 0,0:49:15.92,0:49:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to rewrite and recreate a Dialogue: 0,0:49:17.52,0:49:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,million, million times, and I Dialogue: 0,0:49:19.44,0:49:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believe that's how humanity Dialogue: 0,0:49:20.72,0:49:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moves forward, is when we Dialogue: 0,0:49:22.08,0:49:23.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collaborate, not when we Dialogue: 0,0:49:23.20,0:49:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compete. In terms of, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:49:26.96,0:49:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,freedom and the open web, it's Dialogue: 0,0:49:29.20,0:49:30.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hard to imagine what Dialogue: 0,0:49:30.16,0:49:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technologies will be relevant. Dialogue: 0,0:49:32.48,0:49:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One thing I always say within my Dialogue: 0,0:49:35.68,0:49:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,company at Automattic is that Dialogue: 0,0:49:38.96,0:49:40.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the particular change will be Dialogue: 0,0:49:40.40,0:49:41.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,impossible to predict, but the Dialogue: 0,0:49:41.84,0:49:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fact that change is going to Dialogue: 0,0:49:43.52,0:49:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happen is inevitable. It is 100% Dialogue: 0,0:49:47.04,0:49:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certain. And so as long as we Dialogue: 0,0:49:49.36,0:49:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can stay adaptable, flexible, Dialogue: 0,0:49:52.16,0:49:53.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not become too ossified in our Dialogue: 0,0:49:53.60,0:49:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beliefs and always keep that Dialogue: 0,0:49:55.28,0:49:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beginner's mind, the ability to Dialogue: 0,0:49:57.36,0:49:59.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learn new technology. I've been Dialogue: 0,0:49:59.36,0:50:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really, really impressed, Dialogue: 0,0:50:00.48,0:50:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly in the past year or Dialogue: 0,0:50:01.60,0:50:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two, post-Gutenberg, how so many Dialogue: 0,0:50:03.60,0:50:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,folks across WordPress have been Dialogue: 0,0:50:04.72,0:50:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,picking up JavaScript. You know, Dialogue: 0,0:50:06.96,0:50:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking where they were probably Dialogue: 0,0:50:08.80,0:50:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PHP pros and JavaScript novices, Dialogue: 0,0:50:12.32,0:50:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they've really invested the time Dialogue: 0,0:50:13.76,0:50:15.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to become incredible JavaScript Dialogue: 0,0:50:15.44,0:50:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,developers, and now the entire Dialogue: 0,0:50:16.96,0:50:17.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress community is Dialogue: 0,0:50:17.76,0:50:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,benefitting from that. There Dialogue: 0,0:50:19.36,0:50:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be new generations of Dialogue: 0,0:50:20.56,0:50:22.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technology. I imagine 17 years Dialogue: 0,0:50:22.96,0:50:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from now, there will be Dialogue: 0,0:50:24.32,0:50:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something after JavaScript that Dialogue: 0,0:50:25.52,0:50:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be the most important thing Dialogue: 0,0:50:26.48,0:50:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to WordPress. I don't know what Dialogue: 0,0:50:27.76,0:50:28.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will be yet, but I'm Dialogue: 0,0:50:28.80,0:50:30.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking forward to finding it Dialogue: 0,0:50:30.56,0:50:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out, and I hope that you're a Dialogue: 0,0:50:32.08,0:50:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of the journey as well, so Dialogue: 0,0:50:34.24,0:50:34.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see you around. Dialogue: 0,0:50:35.48,0:50:38.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi, my name is Tobi or Tobi Dialogue: 0,0:50:38.96,0:50:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ffjellner, as my handle is here Dialogue: 0,0:50:40.88,0:50:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for WordPress. I'm one of the Dialogue: 0,0:50:45.84,0:50:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people in the biggest Dialogue: 0,0:50:47.60,0:50:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributor team, polyglots. We Dialogue: 0,0:50:49.76,0:50:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have almost 60,000 people who Dialogue: 0,0:50:51.84,0:50:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have contributed at least some Dialogue: 0,0:50:54.00,0:50:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,translations to WordPress to Dialogue: 0,0:50:57.04,0:50:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around 200 different language Dialogue: 0,0:50:59.60,0:51:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,versions, and out of those, Dialogue: 0,0:51:02.16,0:51:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between 40 and 60 are actively Dialogue: 0,0:51:04.72,0:51:06.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maintained, so that you can use Dialogue: 0,0:51:06.48,0:51:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them right now if you want. And Dialogue: 0,0:51:09.04,0:51:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of people do that. 55% of Dialogue: 0,0:51:12.16,0:51:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all WordPress sites around the Dialogue: 0,0:51:14.64,0:51:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,world that we know about use Dialogue: 0,0:51:16.40,0:51:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some other language than U.S. Dialogue: 0,0:51:18.40,0:51:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,English. My question is about Dialogue: 0,0:51:21.76,0:51:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,multilingual WordPress. It has Dialogue: 0,0:51:24.24,0:51:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been mentioned a couple of times Dialogue: 0,0:51:26.24,0:51:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in a future phase, Dialogue: 0,0:51:28.40,0:51:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gutenberg will cater for Dialogue: 0,0:51:30.72,0:51:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,multilingual content. I would Dialogue: 0,0:51:33.12,0:51:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like to suggest that we already Dialogue: 0,0:51:34.96,0:51:36.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now make decisions on what Dialogue: 0,0:51:37.52,0:51:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,storage structures we are going Dialogue: 0,0:51:39.52,0:51:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to use and procedures, and Dialogue: 0,0:51:41.68,0:51:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perhaps even already now go Dialogue: 0,0:51:45.36,0:51:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forward to make WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:51:47.68,0:51:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,multilingual. There are already Dialogue: 0,0:51:49.20,0:51:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solutions, and we could probably Dialogue: 0,0:51:51.20,0:51:53.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reuse some of those, and by Dialogue: 0,0:51:53.52,0:51:54.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing this we open the Dialogue: 0,0:51:54.80,0:51:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possibility for a lot of new Dialogue: 0,0:51:58.48,0:52:00.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solutions to come up that could Dialogue: 0,0:52:00.40,0:52:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,support procedures around Dialogue: 0,0:52:02.80,0:52:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,translation, handling the Dialogue: 0,0:52:04.16,0:52:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,multilingual content, and so on. Dialogue: 0,0:52:06.32,0:52:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that part is where Gutenberg Dialogue: 0,0:52:09.12,0:52:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually would need to develop Dialogue: 0,0:52:10.16,0:52:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something, but for the storage Dialogue: 0,0:52:12.32,0:52:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,procedures and so on, I think Dialogue: 0,0:52:14.16,0:52:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're talking more about PHP Dialogue: 0,0:52:15.84,0:52:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,development, where we could Dialogue: 0,0:52:17.52,0:52:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reuse already existing plug-ins Dialogue: 0,0:52:20.16,0:52:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a large extent. Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:52:23.88,0:52:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Tobi, thank you so much for Dialogue: 0,0:52:26.16,0:52:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your question, and, of course, Dialogue: 0,0:52:27.68,0:52:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you for your contributions Dialogue: 0,0:52:30.16,0:52:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for -- with translations and Dialogue: 0,0:52:31.36,0:52:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that entire polyglots team. Much Dialogue: 0,0:52:33.12,0:52:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,love to the polyglots team. I, Dialogue: 0,0:52:35.84,0:52:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like you, am very anxious to get Dialogue: 0,0:52:37.92,0:52:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,multilingual into Gutenberg, Dialogue: 0,0:52:41.52,0:52:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether we do it as part of Dialogue: 0,0:52:42.72,0:52:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,core, as part of an official Dialogue: 0,0:52:44.24,0:52:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plug-in, TBD, but part of the Dialogue: 0,0:52:47.84,0:52:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reason we made it Phase 4 is I Dialogue: 0,0:52:50.16,0:52:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know that we can only do so many Dialogue: 0,0:52:51.76,0:52:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things well at a time. And it is Dialogue: 0,0:52:54.96,0:52:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,supremely important that we Dialogue: 0,0:52:57.20,0:52:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really execute super well on Dialogue: 0,0:52:59.52,0:53:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these first phases of Gutenberg Dialogue: 0,0:53:01.44,0:53:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Blocks. That's why also, even Dialogue: 0,0:53:03.20,0:53:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,though I'm super excited about Dialogue: 0,0:53:04.40,0:53:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it, we haven't officially Dialogue: 0,0:53:05.28,0:53:06.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started anything with the Dialogue: 0,0:53:06.56,0:53:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,real-time co-editing yet, for Dialogue: 0,0:53:07.84,0:53:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Phase 3. If we don't get Phase 1 Dialogue: 0,0:53:11.52,0:53:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Phase 2 to be the best Dialogue: 0,0:53:13.68,0:53:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experiences in the world for Dialogue: 0,0:53:15.20,0:53:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,editing, bar none, of any open Dialogue: 0,0:53:17.12,0:53:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,source, any proprietary Dialogue: 0,0:53:18.24,0:53:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,competitors, any builders, Phase Dialogue: 0,0:53:21.52,0:53:23.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,3 and Phase 4 just won't matter, Dialogue: 0,0:53:23.20,0:53:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right? Because it just -- Dialogue: 0,0:53:26.24,0:53:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress won't be relevant a Dialogue: 0,0:53:27.76,0:53:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decade from now. So I do believe Dialogue: 0,0:53:30.72,0:53:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that is the most important Dialogue: 0,0:53:32.40,0:53:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problem that we're facing. And Dialogue: 0,0:53:34.64,0:53:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of why, even though we do Dialogue: 0,0:53:36.40,0:53:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a wide breadth of Dialogue: 0,0:53:37.52,0:53:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributors, and like you Dialogue: 0,0:53:38.56,0:53:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mentioned, some plug-ins that do Dialogue: 0,0:53:40.16,0:53:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solve multilingual already, I Dialogue: 0,0:53:44.00,0:53:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't want to dilute sort of the Dialogue: 0,0:53:46.00,0:53:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,core contributors' focus away Dialogue: 0,0:53:48.72,0:53:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the initial phases of Dialogue: 0,0:53:50.24,0:53:52.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gutenberg, because that's just Dialogue: 0,0:53:52.32,0:53:53.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how important I think they are. Dialogue: 0,0:53:54.40,0:53:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, that said, much like Dialogue: 0,0:53:56.00,0:53:57.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gutenberg has innovated in Dialogue: 0,0:53:57.44,0:53:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plug-ins and then it gets later Dialogue: 0,0:53:59.20,0:54:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adopted and merged into core, Dialogue: 0,0:54:01.28,0:54:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is nothing stopping, I Dialogue: 0,0:54:02.64,0:54:04.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think, you know, more innovation Dialogue: 0,0:54:04.64,0:54:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or more investments happening in Dialogue: 0,0:54:05.84,0:54:07.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the plug-ins. In fact, I think Dialogue: 0,0:54:07.28,0:54:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's interesting that the Dialogue: 0,0:54:08.64,0:54:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plug-ins can take various Dialogue: 0,0:54:10.16,0:54:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different approaches with Dialogue: 0,0:54:11.52,0:54:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regards to data storage and we Dialogue: 0,0:54:13.60,0:54:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can see which works the best and Dialogue: 0,0:54:14.96,0:54:16.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what scales, and the pluses and Dialogue: 0,0:54:16.64,0:54:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,minuses of each. My hope is that Dialogue: 0,0:54:19.20,0:54:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down the line, much like the Dialogue: 0,0:54:20.72,0:54:22.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,page builders are coalescing Dialogue: 0,0:54:22.32,0:54:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around sort of Gutenberg as -- Dialogue: 0,0:54:24.32,0:54:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Blocks as page building, Dialogue: 0,0:54:26.72,0:54:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of primitive that they all Dialogue: 0,0:54:27.84,0:54:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,build on top of. My hope is that Dialogue: 0,0:54:30.32,0:54:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using learnings and hopefully Dialogue: 0,0:54:31.60,0:54:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contributions from all of the Dialogue: 0,0:54:32.64,0:54:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,folks currently during Dialogue: 0,0:54:33.76,0:54:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,multilingual plug-ins right now, Dialogue: 0,0:54:35.84,0:54:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can figure out what is the Dialogue: 0,0:54:37.84,0:54:40.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of 20% that gets us 80% of Dialogue: 0,0:54:40.48,0:54:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way there and create a Dialogue: 0,0:54:41.68,0:54:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,common framework that all of Dialogue: 0,0:54:42.80,0:54:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them build on and then, you Dialogue: 0,0:54:44.96,0:54:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know, much like we are with Dialogue: 0,0:54:46.00,0:54:48.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gutenberg Blocks, that Rails Dialogue: 0,0:54:48.32,0:54:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will, you know, work well with Dialogue: 0,0:54:49.76,0:54:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every other plug-in and theme. Dialogue: 0,0:54:51.20,0:54:52.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that is the hope, that is the Dialogue: 0,0:54:52.88,0:54:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plan. 2022 is what I am Dialogue: 0,0:54:56.08,0:54:58.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,personally hoping to begin Dialogue: 0,0:54:59.04,0:55:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working and focusing on this. Dialogue: 0,0:55:00.72,0:55:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That also gives me a few years Dialogue: 0,0:55:02.64,0:55:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to learn another language. Thank Dialogue: 0,0:55:05.52,0:55:06.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you for your question. I'll see Dialogue: 0,0:55:06.48,0:55:07.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you around WordPress. Dialogue: 0,0:55:09.08,0:55:12.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi, Tom. I'm Otto. You wrote Dialogue: 0,0:55:12.64,0:55:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in with this question. It reads, Dialogue: 0,0:55:15.12,0:55:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sorry I can't make a video to Dialogue: 0,0:55:16.16,0:55:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ask my question, but what I Dialogue: 0,0:55:17.52,0:55:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would like to ask is what you Dialogue: 0,0:55:18.72,0:55:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think about plug-ins like Dialogue: 0,0:55:19.92,0:55:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wordfence and Security Ninja Dialogue: 0,0:55:21.68,0:55:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which recommend removing version Dialogue: 0,0:55:23.12,0:55:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,information from WordPress Dialogue: 0,0:55:24.32,0:55:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,headers and changing file Dialogue: 0,0:55:25.76,0:55:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,operations for certain files. If Dialogue: 0,0:55:27.76,0:55:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you agree with these Dialogue: 0,0:55:28.56,0:55:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,permissions, then I wonder why Dialogue: 0,0:55:30.00,0:55:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they aren't implemented in the Dialogue: 0,0:55:30.96,0:55:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress core. Or if you Dialogue: 0,0:55:32.64,0:55:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disagree, then why are these Dialogue: 0,0:55:34.40,0:55:36.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plug-ins allowed to remain in Dialogue: 0,0:55:36.56,0:55:38.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the plug-in libraries and Dialogue: 0,0:55:38.24,0:55:40.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,charged for making changes that Dialogue: 0,0:55:40.16,0:55:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not recommended by Dialogue: 0,0:55:41.04,0:55:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress. That's a good Dialogue: 0,0:55:44.08,0:55:49.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question, Tom. Well, removing Dialogue: 0,0:55:49.04,0:55:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,version information is often Dialogue: 0,0:55:50.32,0:55:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,referred to as a security Dialogue: 0,0:55:51.60,0:55:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,measure, but on the whole, it is Dialogue: 0,0:55:54.24,0:55:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of an ineffective one. You Dialogue: 0,0:55:56.24,0:55:57.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see, the thinking is that Dialogue: 0,0:55:57.12,0:55:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hackers search for versions in Dialogue: 0,0:55:58.96,0:56:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things like the HTML of the site Dialogue: 0,0:56:00.32,0:56:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before they run scripts on it, Dialogue: 0,0:56:02.64,0:56:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but history has shown that to be Dialogue: 0,0:56:04.16,0:56:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rarely the case. The most common Dialogue: 0,0:56:07.04,0:56:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problem faced by sites is Dialogue: 0,0:56:08.64,0:56:10.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,essentially bots and scripting Dialogue: 0,0:56:10.64,0:56:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attacks. From these kind of Dialogue: 0,0:56:12.16,0:56:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,automated attempts, the failed Dialogue: 0,0:56:14.08,0:56:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cases don't really matter, so it Dialogue: 0,0:56:16.56,0:56:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't save a hacker any time Dialogue: 0,0:56:18.72,0:56:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or effort to have sophisticated Dialogue: 0,0:56:20.16,0:56:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,code to check versioning first. Dialogue: 0,0:56:22.48,0:56:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, by and large, this kind of Dialogue: 0,0:56:24.00,0:56:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing is the same as hiding the Dialogue: 0,0:56:25.92,0:56:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,login screen. It's not for Dialogue: 0,0:56:27.76,0:56:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,security, it's mostly for Dialogue: 0,0:56:29.20,0:56:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vanity. The problem really with Dialogue: 0,0:56:31.68,0:56:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calling these kind of things Dialogue: 0,0:56:32.56,0:56:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,security measures is that users Dialogue: 0,0:56:34.72,0:56:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who don't understand security in Dialogue: 0,0:56:36.32,0:56:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the form of layers of protection Dialogue: 0,0:56:38.48,0:56:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will think that doing these is Dialogue: 0,0:56:39.60,0:56:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the only security they have to Dialogue: 0,0:56:40.96,0:56:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have. I've seen people use bad Dialogue: 0,0:56:43.36,0:56:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,passwords simply because they Dialogue: 0,0:56:45.28,0:56:46.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assume the login screen couldn't Dialogue: 0,0:56:46.64,0:56:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be found in the first place. Dialogue: 0,0:56:49.20,0:56:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Doing such things like removing Dialogue: 0,0:56:50.72,0:56:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,versions or hiding logins or Dialogue: 0,0:56:53.12,0:56:54.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anything like that isn't Dialogue: 0,0:56:54.48,0:56:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actively dangerous or harmful, Dialogue: 0,0:56:56.40,0:56:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's just not the first thing Dialogue: 0,0:56:57.52,0:56:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you should be doing to improve Dialogue: 0,0:56:58.72,0:56:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the security of a website in Dialogue: 0,0:56:59.76,0:57:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,general. So in that respect Dialogue: 0,0:57:02.24,0:57:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're allowed in the plug-in Dialogue: 0,0:57:03.04,0:57:05.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,directory the same as anything Dialogue: 0,0:57:05.04,0:57:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,else is. I mean, plug-ins are Dialogue: 0,0:57:06.64,0:57:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allowed for people who want to Dialogue: 0,0:57:08.40,0:57:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do such things, even if that Dialogue: 0,0:57:10.24,0:57:12.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn't the majority of users. I Dialogue: 0,0:57:12.88,0:57:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean, that's what plug-ins are Dialogue: 0,0:57:13.76,0:57:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for, after all, it's to Dialogue: 0,0:57:14.88,0:57:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,customize your site the way you Dialogue: 0,0:57:15.92,0:57:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want it. As for whether they can Dialogue: 0,0:57:18.56,0:57:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,charge for making changes, all Dialogue: 0,0:57:20.32,0:57:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plug-ins on wordpress.org are Dialogue: 0,0:57:21.76,0:57:26.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,free. Any charges made by Dialogue: 0,0:57:26.08,0:57:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plug-ins such as pro versions Dialogue: 0,0:57:28.16,0:57:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are sold elsewhere is sort Dialogue: 0,0:57:30.00,0:57:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of outside of our purview. So in Dialogue: 0,0:57:32.16,0:57:34.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that respect, I would say I only Dialogue: 0,0:57:34.88,0:57:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,use free plug-ins, so there's Dialogue: 0,0:57:37.04,0:57:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably a free plug-in that Dialogue: 0,0:57:38.16,0:57:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will make the changes you want. Dialogue: 0,0:57:40.08,0:57:41.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thanks for your question, Tom. Dialogue: 0,0:57:41.68,0:57:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Appreciate it. Hope that helps. Dialogue: 0,0:57:44.60,0:57:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi, Matt. I'm Winstina. In Dialogue: 0,0:57:47.60,0:57:49.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2017, I presented at Wordcamp Dialogue: 0,0:57:49.68,0:57:52.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,U.S. on how cities and towns can Dialogue: 0,0:57:52.32,0:57:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work with their residents to Dialogue: 0,0:57:53.68,0:57:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sell locally online. My question Dialogue: 0,0:57:58.56,0:58:01.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for you is this: What more can Dialogue: 0,0:58:01.76,0:58:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Woo achieve beyond the freedom Dialogue: 0,0:58:04.40,0:58:06.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of empowerment and expression Dialogue: 0,0:58:06.40,0:58:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for all to sell digitally? Dialogue: 0,0:58:09.12,0:58:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Essentially, what's your vision Dialogue: 0,0:58:11.20,0:58:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Woo democratizing commerce Dialogue: 0,0:58:15.28,0:58:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during this pandemic and beyond? Dialogue: 0,0:58:20.00,0:58:20.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thanks. Dialogue: 0,0:58:20.44,0:58:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Hi, Winstina. My name is Paul Dialogue: 0,0:58:22.80,0:58:24.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maiorana. I'm the CEO here at Dialogue: 0,0:58:24.08,0:58:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WooCommerce. Thank you for your Dialogue: 0,0:58:25.52,0:58:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question and thank you for Dialogue: 0,0:58:27.12,0:58:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything you do to support Dialogue: 0,0:58:28.16,0:58:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,local businesses. We share that Dialogue: 0,0:58:31.36,0:58:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mission, ultimately. So your Dialogue: 0,0:58:33.28,0:58:34.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question couldn't be more Dialogue: 0,0:58:34.16,0:58:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pertinent in a year like 2020 Dialogue: 0,0:58:35.84,0:58:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has brought such hardship Dialogue: 0,0:58:37.12,0:58:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to small businesses. Dialogue: 0,0:58:38.88,0:58:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WooCommerce powers over 2 Dialogue: 0,0:58:40.56,0:58:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,million stores on our platform, Dialogue: 0,0:58:42.48,0:58:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we take that role really Dialogue: 0,0:58:43.60,0:58:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seriously. Dialogue: 0,0:58:45.52,0:58:47.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the things that we've Dialogue: 0,0:58:47.44,0:58:49.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been focused on this year, we Dialogue: 0,0:58:49.52,0:58:50.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know that WordPress and Dialogue: 0,0:58:50.40,0:58:52.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WooCommerce can often be - or Dialogue: 0,0:58:52.88,0:58:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,require a little bit of Dialogue: 0,0:58:53.76,0:58:55.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technical knowledge, or even Dialogue: 0,0:58:55.36,0:58:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just some courage to kind of get Dialogue: 0,0:58:56.56,0:58:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up and running with if you're Dialogue: 0,0:58:57.84,0:58:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,less experienced with the Dialogue: 0,0:58:58.88,0:58:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,platforms. Dialogue: 0,0:59:00.24,0:59:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this year, especially this Dialogue: 0,0:59:02.08,0:59:04.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,year, stores may not necessarily Dialogue: 0,0:59:04.64,0:59:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have the budget to go out and Dialogue: 0,0:59:06.00,0:59:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hire that additional help. So, Dialogue: 0,0:59:09.12,0:59:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've been focused this year on Dialogue: 0,0:59:11.12,0:59:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,empowering merchants to be more Dialogue: 0,0:59:12.32,0:59:13.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self-sufficient and removing Dialogue: 0,0:59:13.60,0:59:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many of the obstacles that a Dialogue: 0,0:59:15.12,0:59:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,merchant might hit in getting Dialogue: 0,0:59:16.32,0:59:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their store online and then Dialogue: 0,0:59:18.08,0:59:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,running and growing that store. Dialogue: 0,0:59:21.44,0:59:22.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've been focused on our Dialogue: 0,0:59:22.32,0:59:23.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on-boarding for one, Dialogue: 0,0:59:24.56,0:59:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,streamlining the setup process Dialogue: 0,0:59:26.24,0:59:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in configuration for Woo, such Dialogue: 0,0:59:27.92,0:59:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you can get to that first Dialogue: 0,0:59:29.20,0:59:30.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sale that much more quickly. Dialogue: 0,0:59:31.36,0:59:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're redesigning the navigation Dialogue: 0,0:59:32.96,0:59:34.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around WooCommerce to make it Dialogue: 0,0:59:34.32,0:59:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that much more intuitive, again, Dialogue: 0,0:59:35.60,0:59:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for folks who are maybe less Dialogue: 0,0:59:36.64,0:59:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experienced with WooCommerce and Dialogue: 0,0:59:38.08,0:59:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress. Dialogue: 0,0:59:40.48,0:59:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've been investing big in the Dialogue: 0,0:59:41.60,0:59:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Block Editor and bringing new Dialogue: 0,0:59:43.60,0:59:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,product blocks into WooCommerce Dialogue: 0,0:59:45.52,0:59:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to enable our merchants to be, Dialogue: 0,0:59:48.00,0:59:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,again, more self-sufficient in Dialogue: 0,0:59:49.36,0:59:50.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way that they merchandise Dialogue: 0,0:59:50.40,0:59:51.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their products and not have to Dialogue: 0,0:59:51.44,0:59:52.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be reliant on a developer to Dialogue: 0,0:59:52.88,0:59:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,implement those promotions. And Dialogue: 0,0:59:57.04,0:59:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we also know that it's not Dialogue: 0,0:59:58.00,0:59:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enough to just get a store Dialogue: 0,0:59:59.04,1:00:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,online and kind of, you know, Dialogue: 0,1:00:00.72,1:00:02.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,operate the store. Our merchants Dialogue: 0,1:00:02.72,1:00:04.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to grow, so we need to help Dialogue: 0,1:00:04.64,1:00:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them reach their customers, so Dialogue: 0,1:00:06.08,1:00:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've also been investing a lot Dialogue: 0,1:00:08.08,1:00:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in improving the marketing Dialogue: 0,1:00:09.12,1:00:10.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solutions that are available for Dialogue: 0,1:00:10.40,1:00:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WooCommerce to help our Dialogue: 0,1:00:11.84,1:00:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,merchants grow their stores. So, Dialogue: 0,1:00:13.84,1:00:15.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope that's helpful. Thank you Dialogue: 0,1:00:15.60,1:00:16.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for contributing to WordPress. Dialogue: 0,1:00:17.48,1:00:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,>> Wow, that was a lot of Dialogue: 0,1:00:20.48,1:00:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,questions and answers. I really Dialogue: 0,1:00:23.12,1:00:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appreciate everyone from the Dialogue: 0,1:00:24.80,1:00:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community who helped answer the Dialogue: 0,1:00:26.00,1:00:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,questions. As always with Dialogue: 0,1:00:28.56,1:00:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WordPress, these things are so Dialogue: 0,1:00:30.08,1:00:31.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much better when we work Dialogue: 0,1:00:31.12,1:00:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together, and it was exciting to Dialogue: 0,1:00:33.60,1:00:35.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me to be able to do a Dialogue: 0,1:00:35.20,1:00:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,distributed and virtual version Dialogue: 0,1:00:37.12,1:00:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what happens sometimes at Dialogue: 0,1:00:38.32,1:00:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wordcamps when I'll pass the mic Dialogue: 0,1:00:40.32,1:00:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to someone, usually in the front Dialogue: 0,1:00:41.60,1:00:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,row from the WordPress Dialogue: 0,1:00:42.88,1:00:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community, who knows so much Dialogue: 0,1:00:44.24,1:00:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than I can and can answer Dialogue: 0,1:00:45.52,1:00:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the question so much better. So Dialogue: 0,1:00:47.52,1:00:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep an eye out for these Dialogue: 0,1:00:48.48,1:00:50.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recordings and captions and Dialogue: 0,1:00:50.40,1:00:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more, which will be on Dialogue: 0,1:00:51.60,1:00:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wordpress.tv and the WordPress Dialogue: 0,1:00:55.84,1:00:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,YouTube channel. With that, I Dialogue: 0,1:00:59.12,1:01:00.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bid you adieu. Thank you so much Dialogue: 0,1:01:00.80,1:01:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for tuning in. I am so Dialogue: 0,1:01:03.28,1:01:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appreciative to the WordPress Dialogue: 0,1:01:04.96,1:01:06.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community this year for being Dialogue: 0,1:01:06.80,1:01:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just a place of stability and Dialogue: 0,1:01:09.92,1:01:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strength. I really love and Dialogue: 0,1:01:11.68,1:01:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appreciate you all. Thank you so Dialogue: 0,1:01:13.84,1:01:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much and see you again online.