1 00:00:00,123 --> 00:00:02,344 ♪ [music] ♪ 2 00:00:03,522 --> 00:00:06,984 - [Tyler] Now let's say you could only teach two words to everyone. 3 00:00:07,423 --> 00:00:09,242 What would the two words be? 4 00:00:10,053 --> 00:00:13,883 My candidate would be "incentives matter." 5 00:00:14,488 --> 00:00:17,463 If there could only be one lesson from an economics class, 6 00:00:17,463 --> 00:00:18,784 a single takeaway -- 7 00:00:19,042 --> 00:00:20,684 I can't boil it down to one word. 8 00:00:20,684 --> 00:00:24,362 Even in German there's not one word for "incentives matter." 9 00:00:24,362 --> 00:00:25,754 I hope they coin one. 10 00:00:25,754 --> 00:00:26,982 [audience laughter] 11 00:00:27,462 --> 00:00:31,954 But to train or teach students throughout life, in all areas, 12 00:00:31,954 --> 00:00:35,272 to keep on seeing whether our economic knowledge in those areas 13 00:00:35,272 --> 00:00:38,604 is certain or uncertain -- incentives are playing a role. 14 00:00:38,889 --> 00:00:40,758 So just very simple examples. 15 00:00:41,019 --> 00:00:43,372 In a number of cities, there are proposals 16 00:00:43,372 --> 00:00:46,344 to ban tipping of waiters and waitresses. 17 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,653 There have since then been studies that show 18 00:00:49,653 --> 00:00:53,601 that if tipping is banned, the quality of service goes down. 19 00:00:54,002 --> 00:00:56,158 Of course this is, to us, common sense. 20 00:00:56,459 --> 00:01:00,426 It has more or less been verified empirically. 21 00:01:00,427 --> 00:01:03,761 If the waiter or waitress does not get more 22 00:01:03,761 --> 00:01:05,713 by bringing you your plate when you need it 23 00:01:05,713 --> 00:01:07,272 because you leave a larger tip, 24 00:01:07,272 --> 00:01:09,011 they're not going to be as keen to do it. 25 00:01:09,011 --> 00:01:11,442 It doesn't mean that all people care about is money. 26 00:01:11,442 --> 00:01:13,632 It does mean that incentives matter. 27 00:01:14,417 --> 00:01:16,422 You look at these Silicon Valley companies. 28 00:01:16,422 --> 00:01:18,942 That's my trip after this. I'm going out there. 29 00:01:18,942 --> 00:01:21,562 Like Google and Facebook -- they've all gone public now, 30 00:01:21,562 --> 00:01:22,761 the famous ones. 31 00:01:22,761 --> 00:01:23,912 It was really striking. 32 00:01:23,912 --> 00:01:25,508 Right after they go public, 33 00:01:26,062 --> 00:01:29,691 there is a spike in the divorce rate for their employees. 34 00:01:29,691 --> 00:01:30,998 [audience chuckles] 35 00:01:30,998 --> 00:01:32,004 Now why is that? 36 00:01:32,004 --> 00:01:34,091 Is it that being in a publically run company 37 00:01:34,091 --> 00:01:35,365 is more stressful? 38 00:01:35,744 --> 00:01:39,973 Or somehow causes people to spend more time away from home? 39 00:01:39,973 --> 00:01:41,013 I don't know. 40 00:01:41,013 --> 00:01:43,740 But there's a pretty simple economic reason -- 41 00:01:44,258 --> 00:01:46,571 that once it's a publicly traded company 42 00:01:46,571 --> 00:01:49,332 people can sell their shares of stock, right? 43 00:01:49,332 --> 00:01:51,342 And if there's a divorce settlement, 44 00:01:51,848 --> 00:01:55,115 the partner who has more money can pay off the other, 45 00:01:55,115 --> 00:01:56,943 and they can reach an arrangement, 46 00:01:56,943 --> 00:01:59,750 whereas if you're holding relatively illiquid shares, 47 00:01:59,756 --> 00:02:02,804 or you're not allowed to sell them so rapidly, 48 00:02:02,804 --> 00:02:05,352 and you have to reach a divorce settlement, 49 00:02:05,352 --> 00:02:06,500 it's much harder to do. 50 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:07,900 Maybe you have to borrow to do it. 51 00:02:07,900 --> 00:02:09,761 People are reluctant to do that, 52 00:02:09,761 --> 00:02:12,879 so they don't get divorced until the company goes public. 53 00:02:13,322 --> 00:02:16,049 You would think, "My goodness! That's cruel 54 00:02:16,049 --> 00:02:19,960 or cold-hearted, or calculating, or Machiavellian!" 55 00:02:20,721 --> 00:02:24,141 Morally, you may approve or not approve, 56 00:02:24,141 --> 00:02:27,690 but the point still remains -- incentives matter. 57 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,188 In the United States right now, 58 00:02:31,188 --> 00:02:33,640 one big problem we have with incentives 59 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:36,521 is that when people at lower income groups 60 00:02:36,521 --> 00:02:40,731 climb the income ladder they lose a lot of their benefits. 61 00:02:40,731 --> 00:02:43,939 That is like an implicit tax rate on them. 62 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:45,622 So, in some estimates -- 63 00:02:45,622 --> 00:02:47,531 again, it depends on your circumstance -- 64 00:02:47,531 --> 00:02:51,330 but if you go from being poor to being, say, middle class, 65 00:02:52,070 --> 00:02:57,147 your marginal tax rate might be, say, 50 to 70% in some cases. 66 00:02:57,433 --> 00:02:59,361 It's probably at least 40%. 67 00:02:59,531 --> 00:03:01,771 So if you ask who are the people in this country 68 00:03:01,771 --> 00:03:03,559 who face the highest tax rates? 69 00:03:03,830 --> 00:03:05,937 It's not generally the rich people. 70 00:03:06,230 --> 00:03:08,621 It's not even Warren Buffett's secretary. 71 00:03:09,096 --> 00:03:12,330 Very often, when you understand incentives properly, 72 00:03:12,330 --> 00:03:13,818 it is the poor people. 73 00:03:14,663 --> 00:03:17,019 When I was in Montreal, one thing that struck me 74 00:03:17,830 --> 00:03:21,151 is there's relatively little gentrification. 75 00:03:21,151 --> 00:03:24,381 Rents are quite low, by most American standards, 76 00:03:24,381 --> 00:03:26,160 for a city that large. 77 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,623 And when you walk around it was striking to me 78 00:03:29,623 --> 00:03:31,854 how many restaurants are closed for lunch. 79 00:03:32,331 --> 00:03:33,706 So think of Montreal. 80 00:03:33,949 --> 00:03:36,371 The city still has a feel a bit like in the '70s. 81 00:03:36,371 --> 00:03:39,720 It's not poor, but it hasn't grown very rapidly. 82 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,281 It doesn't have a tech sector. 83 00:03:41,281 --> 00:03:43,090 Investment has been afraid to go there, 84 00:03:43,090 --> 00:03:45,062 because of all the talk of secession. 85 00:03:45,311 --> 00:03:47,080 So it has a retro feel. 86 00:03:47,601 --> 00:03:49,032 Rents are much lower. 87 00:03:49,351 --> 00:03:50,691 So you have a restaurant, 88 00:03:50,691 --> 00:03:54,630 you don't necessarily have to open it for lunch 89 00:03:54,630 --> 00:03:55,791 to stay in business. 90 00:03:55,791 --> 00:03:58,710 And if you open it for lunch you work your staff more hours, 91 00:03:58,710 --> 00:04:00,963 you bump up against labor regulations. 92 00:04:00,963 --> 00:04:03,730 Again, incentives matter, incentives matter, 93 00:04:03,730 --> 00:04:04,938 incentives matter. 94 00:04:05,121 --> 00:04:07,221 It's true in the non-profit sector. 95 00:04:07,221 --> 00:04:08,741 It is true in government. 96 00:04:08,741 --> 00:04:11,026 It is true in every country of the world. 97 00:04:11,441 --> 00:04:14,519 Of course incentives mattering does not have to be a good thing. 98 00:04:14,769 --> 00:04:18,088 It does help us get many good things done, right? 99 00:04:18,823 --> 00:04:20,380 We have property rights. 100 00:04:20,380 --> 00:04:23,879 Property rights help people who create value 101 00:04:23,879 --> 00:04:25,645 to internalize value. 102 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,042 That's another incentive. 103 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:29,161 So I don't really teach property rights 104 00:04:29,161 --> 00:04:30,720 as a separate category. 105 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,710 To me they're an example of incentives. 106 00:04:32,710 --> 00:04:34,172 They're part of the carrot. 107 00:04:34,172 --> 00:04:36,210 They're how you get to eat the carrot. 108 00:04:36,664 --> 00:04:40,114 There's one story I read recently -- it's kind of scary, actually. 109 00:04:40,606 --> 00:04:42,060 There was a fellow, 110 00:04:42,439 --> 00:04:45,727 and he bought an old tooth of John Lennon. 111 00:04:45,728 --> 00:04:47,338 Yes, John Lennon the Beatle. 112 00:04:47,615 --> 00:04:49,518 He bought the tooth at auction. 113 00:04:49,998 --> 00:04:53,550 And now he's putting ads all around the internet saying, 114 00:04:53,833 --> 00:04:57,730 "Do you think you might be an unrecognized descendant 115 00:04:57,730 --> 00:04:59,027 of John Lennon? 116 00:04:59,292 --> 00:05:00,614 I have his DNA. 117 00:05:00,861 --> 00:05:01,780 Contact me. 118 00:05:01,780 --> 00:05:06,008 We will test you, and we can bring a lawsuit." 119 00:05:07,343 --> 00:05:09,226 In my opinion -- It's now a personal opinion. 120 00:05:09,226 --> 00:05:10,625 I'm not speaking as an economist -- 121 00:05:10,625 --> 00:05:12,677 but that's a negative incentive. 122 00:05:12,677 --> 00:05:15,626 So a lot of the troubles we have in the world 123 00:05:15,626 --> 00:05:17,638 also spring from incentives. 124 00:05:17,638 --> 00:05:18,995 ♪ [music] ♪ 125 00:05:18,995 --> 00:05:20,918 - [Narrator] Click here to watch the next episode 126 00:05:20,918 --> 00:05:23,847 of "Tyler Cowen's 9 Big Ideas of Economics." 127 00:05:24,139 --> 00:05:26,036 Or maybe you're not ready to move on, 128 00:05:26,036 --> 00:05:28,646 and instead want to learn more about this idea. 129 00:05:28,646 --> 00:05:30,526 Then you should check out this video. 130 00:05:30,526 --> 00:05:33,356 Or maybe you are dying to attend one of our teacher events 131 00:05:33,356 --> 00:05:35,056 to mingle with other econ nerds? 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