9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Khuda se Mutaliq Sawalat aur Ilm [br]al Kalam ka Jawab - PART 2 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 by Jawed Ahmad Ghamidi 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 [Hassan Ilyas] Yesterday, I asked you a [br]question related to hypothetical statements 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that we use in relation to Allah, [br]nauzubillah (I seek refuge with Allah) 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 That Allah can lie, or he can make a rock[br]which even he can lift. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You detailed out your views on these [br]kind of discussions. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 There is a relative aspect and doubt, I [br]want you to explain us in detail. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 When you are in a discussion related to[br]the existence of God, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the argument behind confirmation for [br]God's being, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 or the various aspects of atheism or [br]agnosticism that are put forward. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It is said that you logically conclude [br]the arguments with intellectual evidence. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And the other party to the discussion is[br]puzzled with your style. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 My question to you today is that,[br]Even you include these 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 intellectual evidences and arguments in [br]your discussions, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 People often say that a conversation [br]with Ghamidi Sahib is very rational, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 logical, enlightened and intellectual. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So, even your paradigm answers [br]these modern suspicion or doubt 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 by way of intellectual and logical [br]arguments. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Then what about simple and inherent [br]arguments given by the Quran 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 as you often say? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 [Javed Ahmad Ghamidi] Don't you consider [br]the inherent arguments given 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 by the Quran as logical? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 What I had earlier mentioned was that,[br]things that evolve from a specific 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 philosophical or logical background and [br]people present these questions just to 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 ?? of the religion. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 These are the things that clearly convey [br]that your addressee does not have that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 perceptive attitude to understand or dive[br]into something of this imperative nature. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 In that case you should follow ?? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Arguments will be have there significance. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 The Quran itself is an example of [br]reasoning, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But what sort of argumentation? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I had explained that reasoning only. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I often present this reasoning, infact[br]I have penned it down in my book Meezan. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000