WEBVTT 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I have never been arrested, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 never spent a night in jail, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 never had a loved one thrown into the back of a squad car 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or behind bars, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or be at the mercy of a scary, confusing system 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that at best sees them with indifference, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and at worst as a monstrous. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 United States of America locks up more people than any other nation 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 on the planet. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And Louisiana is our biggest incarcerator. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Most of you are probably like me -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 lucky. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The closest we get to crime and punishment is likely what we see on TV. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 While making "Unprisoned," 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I met a woman who used to be like us -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Sheila Phipps. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) Sheila Phipps: Before my son went to jail, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I used to see people be on television, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 fighting, saying, "Oh, this person didn't do it and this person is innocent." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And you know, you snub them 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or you dismiss them, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and like, "Yeah, whatever." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Don't get me wrong -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 there's a lot of people who deserve to be in prison. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 There's a lot of criminals out here. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But there are a lot of innocent people that are in jail. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 EA: Sheila's son, McKinley, is one of those innocent people. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 He served 17 years of a 30-year sentence on a manslaughter charge. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 He had no previous convictions, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 there was no forensic evidence in the case. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 He was convicted solely on the basis of eyewitness testimony, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and decades of research have shown 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that eyewitess testimony isn't as reliable as we once believed it to be. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Scientists say that memory isn't precise. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It's less like playing back a video, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and more like putting together a puzzle. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Since 1989, when DNA testing was first used to free innocent people, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 over 70 percent of overturned convictions were based on eyewitness testimony. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Last year, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the district attorney whose office prosecuted McKinley's case 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 was convicted of unrelated corruption charges. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 When this district attorney of 30 years stepped down, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the eyewitnesses from McKinley's case came forward 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and said that they had been pressured into testifying by the district attorneys, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 pressure which included the threat of jail time. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Despite this, McKinley is still in prison. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) SP: Before this happened, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I never would've thought it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 well, I guess it's hard for me to imagine 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that these things are going on, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you know, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 until this happened to my son. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It really opened my eyes. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It really, really opened my eyes. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I ain't gonna lie to you. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 EA: Estimates of how many innocent people are locked up 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 range between one and four percent, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which maybe doesn't sound like a lot, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 except that it amounts to around 87,000 people: 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 mothers, fathers, sons locked up, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 often for decades, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for crimes they did not commit. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And that's not even counting the roughly half a million people 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 who have been convicted of nothing -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 those presumed innocent, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but who are too poor to bail out of jail 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and therefore sit behind bars for weeks upon months, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 waiting for their case to come to trial -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or much more likely, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 waiting to take a plea just to get out. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 All of those people have family on the outside. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) My brother missed my high school graduation 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because the night before my graduation, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 he went to jail. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 My brother missed my birthday dinner 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because that day actually, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 he went to jail. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 My brother missed his own birthday dinner 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) EA: So all these times when he ended up going to jail, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 were charges pressed, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or did he just get taken to jail? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) Um, the charges would be pressed 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and it would have a bond posted, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 then the charges will get dropped ... 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because there was no evidence. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 EA: I met Kortney Williams when I went to her college classroom 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to talk about "Unprisoned." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 She ended up interviewing her aunt, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Troylynn Robertson, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for an episode. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) Kortney Williams: with everything that you went through 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 with your children, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 what is any advice that you would give me 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if I had any kids? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) Troylynn Roberston: I would tell you when you have them, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you know the first thing that will initially come to mind is love 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and protection, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but I would tell you, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [even with] the protection to raise them with knowledge of the judicial system -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you know, we always tell our kids about the boogeyman, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the bad people, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 who to watch out for, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but we don't teach them how to watch out for the judicial system. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 EA: Because of the way our criminal legal systema 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 disproportionately targets people of color, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it's not uncommon for young people like Kortney to know about it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 When I started going into high schools to talk to students about "Unprisoned," 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I found that roughly one-third of the young people I spoke with 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 had a loved one behind bars. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) The hardest part is like, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 finding out [where he's at], 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or like, when his court date is. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Yeah, he went to jail on my first birthday. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) My dad works as a jail guard. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 He saw my uncle in jail. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 He's in there for life. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 EA: According to the Annie E. Casey Foundation, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the number of young people with a father incarcerated rose 500 percent 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 between 1980 and 2000. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Over five million of today's children will see a parent incarcerated 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 at some point in their childhoods. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But this number disproportionately effects African-American children. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 By the time they reach the age of 14, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 one in four black children will see their dad go off to prison. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 That's compared to a rate of one in 30 for white children. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 One key factor determining the future success of both inmates and their children 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is whether they can maintain ties during the parent's incarceration, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but prisoners' phone calls home can cost 20 to 20 times more 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 than regular phone calls, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so many families keep in touch through letters. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) Dear big brother, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I'm making the big 16 this year, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 LOL. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Guess I'm not a baby anymore. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You still taking me to prom? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I really miss you. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You're the only guy that kept [... ...] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I wish you were here so I can vent to you. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So much has happened since the last time I seen you. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I have some good news. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I won first place in the science fair. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I'm a geek. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We're going to regionals, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 can't you believe it? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 High school is going by super fast. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In less than two years, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I hope you'll be able to see me walk across the stage. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I thought to write to you because I know it's boring there. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I'm trying to put a smile on your face. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 EA: Anyssa wrote these letters to her brother 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 when she was a sophomore in high school. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 She keeps the letters he writes to her 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 tucked into the frame of her bedroom mirror, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and reads them over and over again. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I'd like to think that there's a good reason 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 why Anissa's brother is locked up. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We all want the wheels of justice to properly turn, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but we're coming to understand 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that the lofty ideals we learned in school look really different 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in our nation's prisons and jails and courtrooms. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) You walk into that courtroom and you're just -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you know I've been doing this for a quite a while, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and it still catches your breath. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You're like, "there are so many people of color here," 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and yet I know that the city is not made up of 90 percent African-Americans, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so why is it that 90 percent of the people who are in orange 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 are African-American? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) EA: Public defender Danny Engelberg 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 isn't the only one noticing how many black people are in municipal court -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or in any court. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It's hard to miss. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) Who's sitting in court waiting to see the judge? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 What do they look like? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) Man: Uh, mostly African-Americans, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 like me. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) Man: It's mostly, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I could say, 85 percent black. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 That's all you see in the orange, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in the box, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [back there], locked up, just waiting. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) Man: Mostly black. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I mean, there was a couple of white people in there. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) Woman: I think it was about 85 percent African-American 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that was sitting there. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 EA: How does a young black person growing up in America today 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 come to understand justice? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Another "Unprisoned" story was about a troupe of dancers 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 who choreographed a piece called "Hoods Up," 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which they performed in front of city council. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Dawonta White was in the seventh grade for that performance. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) Dawonta White: we was wearing black with hoodies because Trayvon Martin, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 he was wearing his hoodie 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and he was killed. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So we looked upon that, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and we said we're going to wear hoodies like Trayvon Martin. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) EA: Who came up with that idea? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) DW: The group. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We all agreed on it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I was a little nervous, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but um, I had to stick through it, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but I felt like it was a good thing 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so they could notice what we do. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) EA: Shraivell Brown was another choreographer and dancer 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in "Hoods up." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 He says the police criticize people who look like him. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 He feels judged based on things other black people may have done. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) EA: How would you want the police to look at you 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and what would you want them to think? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) Shraivell Brown: I want them to think I'm not no threat. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 EA: Why would they think you're threatening? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 What did you say -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you're 14? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 SB: Yes, I'm 14, but how do we -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because they said a lot of black males are thugs and gangsters and all that, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but I don't want them thinking that about me. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 EA: For folks who look like me, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the easiest and most comfortable thing to do is to not pay attention -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to assume our criminal legal system is working, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but if it's not our responsibility to question those assumptions, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 whose responsibility is it? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 There's a synagogue here that's taken on learning about mass incarceration, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and many congregant have concluded 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that because mass incarceration throws so many lives into chaos, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it actually creates more crime, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 makes people less safe. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Congregant [Terry Hunter] says 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the first step towards action has to be understanding. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 She says it's crucial for all of us to understand our connection to this issue 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 even if it's not immediately obvious. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Recording) Terry Hunter: It's on our shoulders 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to make sure that we're not just closing that door 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and saying, "Well, it's not us." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And I think as Jews, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it's -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you know, we've lived that history -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "It's not us." 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And so if society closes their back on one section, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we've seen what happens. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And so it is our responsibility as Jews and as members of this community 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to educate our community -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 at least our congregation -- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to the extent that we're able. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 EA: I've been using the pronouns us and we 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because this is our criminal legal system 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and our children. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We elect the district attorneys, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the judges and the legistlators who operate these systems 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for we the people. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 As a society, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we are more willing to risk locking up innocent people 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 than we are to let guilty people go free. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We let politicians who fear being labled "soft on crime," 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 encouraging them to pass harsh legislation 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and allocate enormous resources toward locking people up. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 When a crime is committed, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 our hunger for swift retribution has fed a police culture 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 bent on finding culprits fast, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 often without adequate resources to conduct thorough investigations 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or strict scrutiny of those investigations. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We don't put checks on prosecutors. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Across the country, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 over the last couple of decades, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 as property and violent crimes have both fell, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the number of prosecutors employed and cases they have filed has risen. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Prosecutors decide whether or not to take legal action 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 against the people police arrest 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and they decide what charges to file, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 directly impacting how much time a defendant potentially faces behind bars. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 One check we do have on prosecutors is defense. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Imagine Lady Liberty: 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the blindfolded woman holding the scale 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 meant to symbolize the balance in our judicial system. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Unfortunately, that scale is tipped. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The majority of defendants in our country 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 are represented by government-appointed attorneys. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 These public defenders receive around 30 percent less funding 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 than district attorneys do, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and they often have caseloads far outnumbering 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 what the American Bar Association recommends. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 As Sheila Phipps said, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 "There are people who belong in prison," 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but it's hard to tell the guilty from the innocent 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 when everyone's outcomes are so similar. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We all want justice. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But with the process weighed so heavily against defendants, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 justice is hard to come by. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Our criminal legal system operates for we, the people. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 If we don't like what's going on, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it is up to us to change it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Thank you very much. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 (Applause)