WEBVTT 00:00:00.060 --> 00:00:05.220 I once visited a very small slaughterhouse in  Virginia. This particular slaughterhouse rotated 00:00:05.220 --> 00:00:09.000 the animals they killed by day. I happened  to be there on a pig day. Before entering 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:13.200 the slaughterhouse to observe the kill floor, I  peered over the wall of the holding pen outside. 00:00:13.200 --> 00:00:17.280 There was a group of pigs milling about and two  slaughterhouse workers talking in the middle. 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:21.600 One pig approached a worker wearing  a blood-stained smock and nuzzled his side. 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:26.855 The worker glanced down and started petting the pig, who readily laid down for a hearty belly rub. 00:00:26.855 --> 00:00:30.300 The slaughterhouse worker rubbed her belly as the pig closed her eyes 00:00:30.300 --> 00:00:34.428 in a look of bliss every person with a dog is more than accustomed to. 00:00:34.428 --> 00:00:40.260 After a minute or so, he patted her head, saying "okay, I've gotta go," and headed back into the kill floor, 00:00:40.260 --> 00:00:45.266 where he would later stab that very same pig in her carotid artery. 00:00:45.266 --> 00:00:49.440 As far as slaughterhouses go, the one I visited was a far cry from the industrial, 00:00:49.440 --> 00:00:54.600 mechanized kill lines run at staggering speed  with haphazard results. But in many ways, 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:59.400 I found it almost more disturbing to see  the very same man shower a living being with affection 00:00:59.400 --> 00:01:04.920 only to moments later take her life.  This apparent emotional disconnect is hard for 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:09.840 even meat-eaters to reconcile. There's a reason  most people don't kill the animals they consume. 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:14.460 But as much distance as we may like to place  between ourselves and the animals on our plates, 00:01:14.460 --> 00:01:20.160 there' no avoiding the reality that purchasing  animal products is simply a way of having others 00:01:20.160 --> 00:01:26.040 kill in our name. And just as we dare not think  of what the animals have experienced to make it to 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:31.980 our grocery store, we equally resist considering  the experience of those who took their lives. 00:01:43.080 --> 00:01:47.880 Hi, it's Emily from BiteSizeVegan.org,  where you can find free resources, eCourses, 00:01:47.880 --> 00:01:51.300 kids' content, and a Guided Search  to help you find just what you need, 00:01:51.300 --> 00:01:55.020 even if you don't know what to ask! And where you'll find all the sources 00:01:55.020 --> 00:02:00.757 and additional resources for this video!  Just go to bitesize.link/WorkerTrauma 00:02:00.757 --> 00:02:04.800 Some people may wonder why I, a vegan  animal liberation activist and educator, 00:02:04.800 --> 00:02:08.580 would take the time to address the mental  health of slaughterhouse workers. 00:02:08.580 --> 00:02:12.360 The most basic reason why their mental health  matters is that the psychological anguish 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:17.760 of any sentient being matters. And when an  occupation routinely causes psychological 00:02:17.760 --> 00:02:21.480 harm to workers across all countries  and cultures, it’s worth asking why. 00:02:21.480 --> 00:02:26.460 Slaughterhouse workers are essentially canaries  in the coal mine for our collective humanity. 00:02:26.460 --> 00:02:31.500 If killing animals results in profound  psychological trauma for workers, it would 00:02:31.500 --> 00:02:36.420 certainly call into question our societal belief  that slaughtering animals is perfectly acceptable. 00:02:36.420 --> 00:02:40.140 This belief is already a thinly  veiled dissociation for people who 00:02:40.140 --> 00:02:44.160 consume animals. Ask the average person  to watch footage from a slaughterhouse, 00:02:44.160 --> 00:02:48.840 and you'll likely be met with resistance. If nothing is wrong with the way that we raise, 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:52.320 confine, and kill animals, why are we so resistant to watching? 00:02:52.320 --> 00:02:57.240 Perhaps even more telling is the animal products  industry's own resistance to transparency. 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:02.580 Starting with my own state of Iowa, many states  have criminalized the exposure of what takes 00:03:02.580 --> 00:03:07.320 place within their facilities. These so-called  "ag-gag" laws place severe penalties of jail 00:03:07.320 --> 00:03:11.686 time and fees upon anyone who shows the inner  workings of our animal agriculture system. 00:03:11.686 --> 00:03:16.680 Again, if there's nothing to hide, why take  such extreme steps to prevent exposure? 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:21.060 For some animal rights activists, it may  seem that focusing at all on the health of 00:03:21.060 --> 00:03:25.560 slaughterhouse workers pulls attention from  the real victims: the animals themselves. 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:30.660 It's a common misconception that being vegan  means one has no concern for human rights. 00:03:30.660 --> 00:03:34.560 However, even if our primary focus is non-human animals, 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:39.660 the psychological damage workers experience  from killing them is a powerful testament 00:03:39.660 --> 00:03:44.460 to the true impact of the animals’ suffering. The harm to workers flies in the face 00:03:44.460 --> 00:03:48.000 of viewing non-human animals as objects or commodities. 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:54.180 Were that true, slaughterhouse workers would not be so gravely affected by taking their lives. 00:03:54.981 --> 00:03:58.620 You may wonder what kind of person would work  at a slaughterhouse in the first place? 00:03:58.620 --> 00:04:03.274 Perhaps people who take sadistic pleasure in harming animals? While there are people who willingly gravitate 00:04:03.274 --> 00:04:07.519 towards slaughtering animals because they enjoy it, they are by far a minority. 00:04:07.519 --> 00:04:13.226 In reality, most slaughterhouse workers take  the job as a last—or only—resort for income. 00:04:13.226 --> 00:04:16.560 Slaughterhouse workers typically come  from poor socio-economic backgrounds, 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:21.360 often with little to no education. Many, if not most, are members of vulnerable populations, 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:24.540 like refugees, people of color, and undocumented immigrants. 00:04:24.540 --> 00:04:28.234 Former slaughterhouse worker turned animal activist Virgil Butler 00:04:28.234 --> 00:04:32.737 shared about the makeup of his coworkers in a speech about his nine years 00:04:32.737 --> 00:04:36.060 slaughtering chickens for the  multinational corporation Tyson Foods: 00:04:36.060 --> 00:04:41.029 "Most...are very uneducated. Some of them  can't even read a comic book without some help. 00:04:41.029 --> 00:04:47.110 Tyson actually employs somebody to assist with job applications because most people can't fill them out. 00:04:47.110 --> 00:04:51.463 They also have a lot of Hispanic people that can't speak English so naturally they can't write it. 00:04:51.463 --> 00:04:56.435 You've got a bunch of people here that really couldn't possibly hope to get a really good job, 00:04:56.435 --> 00:05:01.495 so they're stuck working for Tyson, and Tyson knows it. They pick on rural communities for that reason." 00:05:01.495 --> 00:05:05.880 This makeup of the workforce is echoed across  countries, from South Africa, to Denmark, 00:05:05.880 --> 00:05:11.820 to Turkey, to Australia, to...really anywhere.  The lack of options workers face also explains 00:05:11.820 --> 00:05:17.121 why they stay, despite facing one of the highest illness and injury rates of any profession, 00:05:17.121 --> 00:05:21.047 and having to carry out horrific brutalities most people can't even imagine. 00:05:21.047 --> 00:05:26.027 Virgil Butler describes this desperate position, recounting how workers were expected 00:05:26.027 --> 00:05:31.436 to remove improperly hung chickens from the line "any way you can:" 00:05:31.436 --> 00:05:34.560 "You get it off the line any way you can.  If that means ripping that chicken in half, 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:38.543 that means rippin' its leg off, if that  means rippin' its foot off—you do it. 00:05:38.543 --> 00:05:43.920 If you don't do it, you're fired. Flat out. There's no choice. They'll tell you straight up: 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.787 you are the most expendable human beings on earth." 00:05:46.787 --> 00:05:50.255 It's rather telling that—at least at the time of  my research for this video— 00:05:50.255 --> 00:05:57.265 when typing "slaughterhouse workers" into Google, the very first auto-suggestion is "slaughterhouse workers ptsd." 00:05:57.265 --> 00:06:01.320 Studies across countries and cultures  show clear evidence of psychological trauma 00:06:01.320 --> 00:06:06.212 from working in slaughterhouses, though this  is still a largely under-examined population. 00:06:06.212 --> 00:06:09.960 Workers studied have exhibited and  reported a range of symptoms including: 00:06:09.960 --> 00:06:14.520 anxiety, depression, recurrent violent  dreams, paranoia, dissociation, panic, 00:06:14.520 --> 00:06:18.240 a sense of disintegration, an increase  in aggression in and outside of work, 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:23.093 substance abuse, amnesia,suicidal  ideation, and even psychoticism. 00:06:23.093 --> 00:06:26.700 Slaughterhouse workers are particularly  prone to a form of Post-Traumatic Stress 00:06:26.700 --> 00:06:30.171 Disorder (PTSD) called Perpetration-Induced Traumatic Stress (PITS). 00:06:30.171 --> 00:06:35.260 The concept of PITS was first introduced by sociologist  and psychologist Rachel M. Macnair 00:06:35.260 --> 00:06:41.747 MacNair describes PITS as "a form of PTSD symptoms  caused not by being a victim or rescuer in trauma, 00:06:41.747 --> 00:06:44.560 but by being an active participant in causing trauma" 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:48.574 —meaning the psychological harm results from having caused the traumatic event. 00:06:48.574 --> 00:06:54.911 McNair argues that this resulting trauma suggests that "the human mind is not well suited for killing." 00:06:54.911 --> 00:06:58.920 This assessment is echoed in a study in  South Africa that created a timeline of the 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:03.498 emotional breakdown of slaughterhouse workers,  starting with the trauma of their first kill: 00:07:03.498 --> 00:07:07.758 "During their first kill, slaughter workers  remember feeling upset and experiencing 00:07:07.758 --> 00:07:11.100 physical shock manifested by shaking and  shivering. [... They] were also emotionally 00:07:11.100 --> 00:07:15.890 disturbed by their first-time kill and noted  feeling pained, saddened, and shameful." 00:07:15.890 --> 00:07:19.860 The study relays one worker's recounting of  his first kill, noting how "the traumatic 00:07:19.860 --> 00:07:24.600 experience of the first kill is evident as  well as how this emotive experience fades 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:28.609 into detachment," a later phase of the emotional timeline that we'll address next. 00:07:28.609 --> 00:07:33.704 He recalls: "The first time when I killed it was  not easy for me. I feel pity for it. 00:07:33.704 --> 00:07:37.988 I felt I just wanted to close my eyes, turn  around, and run away. It was really sad 00:07:37.988 --> 00:07:42.664 but the more you do it the easier it gets. Like yesterday I had to shoot cows in the kraal [an enclosure for livestock]. 00:07:42.664 --> 00:07:46.232 I climbed over the fence, walked to the cow, and just shot it. 00:07:46.232 --> 00:07:49.847 I feel nothing anymore. In the beginning it was very bad." 00:07:49.847 --> 00:07:54.660 This eventual dissociation and emotional numbing  is described time and again by slaughterhouse 00:07:54.660 --> 00:07:59.912 workers, and is part of what the South African  study refers to as the "(mal)adjustment phase." 00:07:59.912 --> 00:08:04.560 In an interview with journalist Ashitha Nagesh,  Dr Chi-Chi Obuaya, a consultant psychiatrist at 00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:09.139 Nightingale mental health hospital in London,  spoke to the "repetitive trauma" experienced 00:08:09.139 --> 00:08:14.278 by slaughterhouse workers. With this kind  of "complex PTSD," Dr. Obuaya told Nagesh: 00:08:14.278 --> 00:08:18.960 "there’s a sort of self-loathing that tends  to emerge – a very strong dislike of oneself, 00:08:18.960 --> 00:08:22.740 and loss of one’s identity. That’s what  one would see in this particular group, 00:08:22.740 --> 00:08:25.440 where the repetitive nature of the exposure to the 00:08:25.440 --> 00:08:30.861 trauma as a perpetrator then leads to this  breakdown in the individual’s identity." 00:08:30.861 --> 00:08:36.360 In his book The Nazi Doctors, psychiatrist Robert  Jay Lifton coined the term "doubling" to refer to the 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:42.533 "formation of a second, relatively autonomous  self, which enables one to participate in evil." 00:08:42.533 --> 00:08:48.191 Doubling is essentially the act of dividing  oneself into separate "selves"—one self to kill, 00:08:48.191 --> 00:08:52.251 the other self to maintain one's sense  of humanity and identity. 00:08:52.251 --> 00:08:57.530 It's the mind's survival mechanism for carrying out acts  that are contrary to one's moral compass. 00:08:57.530 --> 00:09:02.244 Doubling could explain the disturbing duality I observed in the slaughterhouse worker in Virginia, 00:09:02.244 --> 00:09:05.112 showing affection for a pig just prior to killing her. 00:09:05.112 --> 00:09:10.931 This dissociation is echoed in a striking account from Ed Van Winkle, a long-time slaughterhouse worker: 00:09:10.931 --> 00:09:14.539 "The worst thing, worse than the physical  danger, is the emotional toll. 00:09:14.539 --> 00:09:18.180 You develop an attitude that lets you kill things but doesn't let you care. 00:09:18.180 --> 00:09:22.101 You may look a hog in the eye that's walking around down in the blood pit with you 00:09:22.101 --> 00:09:26.922 [and] you may want to pet it. Pigs down on the kill floor have come up and nuzzled me like a puppy. 00:09:26.922 --> 00:09:31.534 Two minutes later I had to kill them-beat  them to death with a pipe. I can't care.” 00:09:31.534 --> 00:09:35.855 Activist Virgil Butler writes in his moving post "Inside the mind of a killer": 00:09:35.855 --> 00:09:39.886 "The sheer amount of killing and blood can really  get to you after awhile [sic], 00:09:39.886 --> 00:09:44.992 especially if you can't just shut down all emotion completely  and turn into a robot zombie of death. 00:09:44.992 --> 00:09:48.738 You feel like part of a big death machine.  Pretty much treated that way as well. 00:09:48.738 --> 00:09:53.835 Out of desperation you send your mind elsewhere  so that you don't end up like those guys that lose it. 00:09:53.835 --> 00:09:57.197 Like the guy that fell on his knees  praying to God for forgiveness. 00:09:57.197 --> 00:10:02.536 Or the guy they hauled off to the mental hospital that kept  having nightmares that chickens were after him." 00:10:02.536 --> 00:10:07.903 In many ways, the dissociation experienced by  slaughterhouse workers is an extreme version 00:10:07.903 --> 00:10:11.698 of the dissociation experienced by most  people who consume animals. 00:10:11.698 --> 00:10:17.434 No one wants to think they have a hand in overt cruelty  towards animals. So we as a society distance 00:10:17.434 --> 00:10:22.645 ourselves as much as possible from the actions  we pay others to do to animals in our names. 00:10:22.645 --> 00:10:26.792 This dissociation is easier when you don't have  to see what the animals go through. 00:10:26.792 --> 00:10:32.656 When you don't have to literally have their blood on your  hands. For those doing the killing for consumers, 00:10:32.656 --> 00:10:36.608 the dissociation becomes extreme out of necessity. 00:10:36.608 --> 00:10:40.054 There's no arguing that the work of a  slaughterhouse employee is violent. 00:10:40.054 --> 00:10:42.937 But are slaughterhouse workers more prone to violence as a whole? 00:10:42.937 --> 00:10:48.567 As a society, we have long acknowledged cruelty towards animals as an indicator of budding psychopathy. 00:10:48.567 --> 00:10:53.625 Yet slaughterhouse workers are paid and expected  to carry out what amounts to torture upon 00:10:53.625 --> 00:10:58.159 thousands of sentient beings, day in and day out. How could that not have an effect? 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:02.772 Studies have found links between slaughterhouse  work and increased crime rates, including: 00:11:02.772 --> 00:11:08.109 domestic violence, sex offenses, murder, assault,  burglary, arson, rape, theft, and larceny. 00:11:08.109 --> 00:11:12.851 So, is it their work that makes them violent,  or are violent people more drawn to that kind of work? 00:11:12.851 --> 00:11:17.231 While the latter may be true in some  cases, studies and stories from slaughterhouse 00:11:17.231 --> 00:11:22.015 workers illustrate severe changes in personality,  deadening of empathy, and increased aggression. 00:11:22.015 --> 00:11:26.479 For her harrowing book Slaughterhouse,  Gail A. Eisnitz spoke with Donny Tice, 00:11:26.479 --> 00:11:30.351 a hog "sticker" (meaning the worker who cuts the pig's throat). Tice recounted: 00:11:30.351 --> 00:11:34.443 "Down in the blood pit, they say that the smell of  blood makes you aggressive [...] And it does [...] 00:11:34.443 --> 00:11:38.982 Another thing that happens is that you don't  care about people's pain anymore. I used to be 00:11:38.982 --> 00:11:44.867 very sensitive about people's problems-willing to  listen. After a while, you become desensitized." 00:11:44.867 --> 00:11:49.720 Slaughterhouse workers often turn to substance  abuse and other maladaptive ways of coping with 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:53.815 the trauma of their work. Ed Van Winkle,  whom we heard from earlier, told Eisnitz: 00:11:53.815 --> 00:11:58.749 "Every sticker I know carries a gun, and every  one of them would shoot you. Most stickers I know 00:11:58.749 --> 00:12:03.199 have been arrested for assault. A lot of them  have problems with alcohol. They have to drink, 00:12:03.199 --> 00:12:07.825 they have no other way of dealing with killing live, kicking animals all day long." 00:12:07.825 --> 00:12:12.000 Activist Virgil Butler and many other former  and current slaughterhouse workers recount 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:16.142 horrifying "games" workers would play with  the living beings they were employed to kill 00:12:16.142 --> 00:12:19.741 Whether ripping the head off of a chicken  and placing it on their finger like a puppet, 00:12:19.741 --> 00:12:24.325 or purposefully not stunning a pig just to make  it harder for the next worker to shackle them, 00:12:24.325 --> 00:12:28.751 or a number of other atrocities I'll spare you from, but about which you can read for yourself 00:12:28.751 --> 00:12:31.733 in the works I've cited throughout the article for this video 00:12:31.733 --> 00:12:36.000 For many workers, this sadistic behavior  developed from the severe emotional 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:39.901 detachment and stress of the job. While we like to think that abuse and cruelty 00:12:39.901 --> 00:12:44.560 within the animal industries are isolated  events—a result of a few aberrant workers, 00:12:44.560 --> 00:12:49.678 this is simply not the case. I have multiple  videos, articles, and even full-length speeches 00:12:49.678 --> 00:12:54.573 showing the reality of humane regulations  and what the "highest standards" really mean 00:12:54.573 --> 00:12:58.285 for the animals themselves, all of  which are linked in this video's article. 00:12:58.285 --> 00:13:03.303 The line that we draw between abuse and  standard industry practice is arbitrary at best. 00:13:03.303 --> 00:13:07.545 Tossing live, conscious baby chicks  into a meat grinder? Completely legal. 00:13:07.545 --> 00:13:12.719 In fact, it's the standard method dictated in the  European Union's landmark humane regulations. 00:13:12.719 --> 00:13:18.350 Slamming piglets into the concrete floor then tossing them into piles while many are still alive and twitching? 00:13:18.350 --> 00:13:21.364 Completely legal.  Tearing off the testicles of piglets and calves, 00:13:21.364 --> 00:13:24.901 cutting their teeth, notching their  ears, searing brands into flesh, 00:13:24.901 --> 00:13:29.083 chopping off their tails—all without  any pain relief—completely legal. 00:13:29.083 --> 00:13:33.811 As you heard from Virgil Butler,  even clear violations of the limited regulations 00:13:33.811 --> 00:13:40.382 or standards that may exist are not only allowed, but actually required for employees to keep their job. 00:13:40.382 --> 00:13:44.473 Nothing can slow the speed of the line. I've personally spoken with slaughterhouse workers 00:13:44.473 --> 00:13:48.493 —as well as read numerous accounts —about cows regularly still being conscious 00:13:48.493 --> 00:13:53.806 as their skin is removed and they are dismembered. Nothing can slow down the line. 00:13:53.806 --> 00:13:57.488 When undercover videos come out documenting  the inner workers of a slaughterhouse, 00:13:57.488 --> 00:14:03.178 the public is outraged and appalled. But what is  never made clear in such exposes is which horrific 00:14:03.178 --> 00:14:07.644 acts captured are abuse, and which are standard legal practice. 00:14:07.644 --> 00:14:17.579 When the line between cruel, psychopathic sadism and an everyday job task is so profoundly indistinguishable, 00:14:17.579 --> 00:14:20.212 shouldn't that at least give us pause? 00:14:20.212 --> 00:14:24.175 So what, you may ask, is the solution?  Some animal rights activists distribute 00:14:24.175 --> 00:14:28.847 flyers directly to slaughterhouse workers with  information about finding alternative employment, 00:14:28.847 --> 00:14:33.022 crisis lines, addiction support, and legal  help. Labor rights advocates propose things 00:14:33.022 --> 00:14:37.498 like stronger union representation and legal  reform. In her book Slaughterhouse, Gail Eisnitz, 00:14:37.498 --> 00:14:41.602 in wondering why workers continued to  put up with psychically dangerous and 00:14:41.602 --> 00:14:46.895 psychologically damaging conditions year after  year, asked "Wasn't that what unions were for?” 00:14:46.895 --> 00:14:51.418 So she asked a union official, who informed  her he'd raised many complaints about the 00:14:51.418 --> 00:14:55.818 extreme conditions and overt violations over the years, all to no avail. 00:14:55.818 --> 00:15:01.237 The local union president wrote to the state, saying "These are human beings and they need help! 00:15:01.237 --> 00:15:08.216 It's inhumane to subject man or beast to these conditions."  Inspectors came, but took no action, saying they 00:15:08.216 --> 00:15:14.289 "observed slaughter procedures and have seen  no problems with sticking hogs at this speed.” 00:15:14.289 --> 00:15:19.970 However, even if officials were to listen and  take action, even if we were to implement better 00:15:19.970 --> 00:15:24.863 worker safety—the fundamental reality of the job does not change. 00:15:24.863 --> 00:15:32.156 The psychological toll of taking hundreds to thousands of lives every day does not change. 00:15:32.156 --> 00:15:37.284 And the reality for the non-human animals certainly does not change. 00:15:37.284 --> 00:15:42.962 The solution for humans, non-humans, our planet, and our society as a whole is the same: 00:15:42.962 --> 00:15:46.606 to stop exploiting sentient beings. 00:15:46.606 --> 00:15:51.544 If nothing else, the deep and lasting  psychological damage slaughterhouse workers 00:15:51.544 --> 00:15:57.209 experience is a testament to the profound  impact of non-human animal suffering. 00:15:57.209 --> 00:16:07.495 The fact that their deaths can so devastate the  human psyche must mean that their lives matter. 00:16:07.495 --> 00:16:12.027 I wish I had a quick and simple solution to offer for the immense toll our animal products industries 00:16:12.027 --> 00:16:14.246 take upon human and non-human animals alike. 00:16:14.246 --> 00:16:19.412 Perhaps you wish I could offer absolution from even having concern for the humans in these industries at all. 00:16:19.412 --> 00:16:24.826 What I can offer is what I always do: the reality of what you support when you purchase animal products. 00:16:24.826 --> 00:16:27.541 I can offer you the facts such that you can decide 00:16:27.541 --> 00:16:32.356 whether it's in line with your values to continue paying others to kill in your name. 00:16:32.356 --> 00:16:37.738 My hope is that you'll choose to go vegan. If not for the animals, then for your fellow humans. 00:16:37.738 --> 00:16:40.437 You can get started with my free How to Go Vegan Guide, 00:16:40.437 --> 00:16:43.762 available under the Get Started menu at BiteSizeVegan.org. 00:16:43.762 --> 00:16:49.413 To support educational content like this, please consider making a donation by clicking "Support" at BiteSizeVegan.org. 00:16:49.413 --> 00:16:53.051 To stay in the loop about new Bite Size Vegan content and updates, please sign up for the newsletter 00:16:53.051 --> 00:16:55.895 or follow the Telegram channel for the most reliable notifications. 00:16:55.895 --> 00:16:58.150 Now go live vegan, and I'll see you soon.