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Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.88,0:12:46.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, hi kids! I have an incredible message for you.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.11,0:12:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hey, can someone take Germa back to the petting zoo?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.72,0:12:50.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wow! That looks like fun.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.67,0:12:52.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, where was I? Oh, yes.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.46,0:12:55.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 2014, kids 12 and under come free.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.32,0:12:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hey! Shouldn't the comets be in the Planetarium?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.78,0:13:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the entire year, kids 12 and under come free.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.04,0:13:04.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hey, T-Rex! You better get back to the dinosaur den.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.12,0:13:06.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As you can see, it's a very exciting place.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.82,0:13:07.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now tell your parents!
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.98,0:13:11.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kids 12 and under free in 2014 when accompanied by a paying adult.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.65,0:13:13.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We hope to see you soon!
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.47,0:13:17.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Good evening. I'm pleased to welcome you to Legacy Hall
Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.51,0:13:20.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Creation Museum in Northern Kentucky
Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.25,0:13:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the metropolitan area of Cincinnati.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.08,0:13:26.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm Tom Foreman from CNN and I'm pleased to be tonight's
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.01,0:13:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moderator for this Evolution versus Creation debate.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.20,0:13:32.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a very old question! Where did we come from?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.22,0:13:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My answer is from Washington this morning by airplane.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.76,0:13:38.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(laughter from audience)
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.99,0:13:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there is a much more profound, longer answer
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.80,0:13:44.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people have sought after for a long time.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.98,0:13:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So tonight's question to be debated is the following:
Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.88,0:13:55.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is Creation a viable model of origins in today's modern, scientific era?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.17,0:13:58.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our welcome extends to hundreds of thousands of people
Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.01,0:14:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are watching on the internet at debatelive.org.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.84,0:14:02.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're glad you have joined us.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.94,0:14:05.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course, you are auditory and here,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.05,0:14:06.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the folks who've joined us as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.42,0:14:09.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're joined by 70 media representatives from many
Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.99,0:14:11.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the world's great news organizations.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.67,0:14:13.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're glad to have them here as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.59,0:14:17.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now let's welcome our debaters: Mr. Bill Nye and Mr. Ken Ham.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.98,0:14:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(audience applauds)
Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.03,0:14:50.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had a coin toss earlier to determine
Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.20,0:14:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who would go first of these two men.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.24,0:14:54.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only thing missing was Joe Namath in a fur coat.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.37,0:14:59.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it went very well. Mr. Ham won the coin toss
Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.11,0:15:04.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he opted to speak first. But first, let me tell you
Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.03,0:15:05.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little bit about both of these gentlemen.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.70,0:15:08.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Nye's website describes him as a scientist,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.18,0:15:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,engineer, comedian, author, and inventor.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.48,0:15:14.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr Nye, as you may know, produced a number of award-winning TV shows,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.15,0:15:16.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including a program he became so well-known for:
Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.75,0:15:19.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bill Nye the Science Guy.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.15,0:15:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While working on the Science Guy show, Mr. Nye won
Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.92,0:15:24.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seven national Emmy awards for writing, performing,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.69,0:15:28.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and producing the show. Won 18 Emmys in five years!
Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.65,0:15:32.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In between creating the shows, he wrote five kids books about science,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.75,0:15:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,including his latest title, {\i1}Bill Nye's Great Big Book of Tiny Germs{\i0}.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.92,0:15:40.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Billy Nye is the host of three television series:
Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.45,0:15:42.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his program, "The 100 Greatest Discoveries"--
Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.75,0:15:44.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it airs on the Science Channel. "The Eyes of Nye"--
Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.92,0:15:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,airs on PBS stations across the country. He frequenly appears
Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.28,0:15:51.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on interview programs to discuss a variety of science topics.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.28,0:15:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Nye serves as Executive Director of the Planetary Society,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.28,0:15:57.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world's largest space interest group.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.70,0:16:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He is a graduate of Cornell, with a Bachelors
Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.53,0:16:03.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Science degree in Mechanical Engineering.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:03.19,0:16:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Ken Ham is the president and co-founder of Answers of Genesis,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.85,0:16:10.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a bible-defending organization that upholds the authority
Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.98,0:16:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the scriptures from the very first verse.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.86,0:16:16.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Ham is the man behind the popular, high-tech
Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.78,0:16:18.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Creation Museum, where we're holding this debate.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.83,0:16:21.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The museum has had 2 million visitors in six years
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.33,0:16:23.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and has attracted much of the world's media.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.29,0:16:26.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Answers in Genesis website, as well, trafficked
Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.05,0:16:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with 2 million visitors alone last month. Mr. Ham is also
Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.16,0:16:32.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a best-selling author, a much in-demand speaker,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.58,0:16:36.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the host of a daily radio feature carried on 700 plus stations.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.95,0:16:40.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is his second public debate on Evolution and Creation.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.89,0:16:43.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first was at Harvard, in the 1990s.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.85,0:16:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Ham is a native of Australia. He earned
Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.52,0:16:48.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Bachelors degree in Applied Science, with an emphasis in
Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.99,0:16:52.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Environmental Biology, from the Queensland's Institute of Technology,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.61,0:16:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as a Diploma of Education at the University
Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.83,0:16:59.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Queensland in Brisbon, Australia.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.24,0:17:02.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now...Mr. Ham, you opted to go first, so you will
Dialogue: 0,0:17:02.62,0:17:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be first with your five minute opening statement.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:08.88,0:17:11.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, good evening. I know that not everyone watching
Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.12,0:17:14.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this debate will necessarily agree with what I have to say,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.44,0:17:17.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'm an Aussie and live over here in America
Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.61,0:17:20.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they tell me I have an accent and so it doesn't matter
Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.12,0:17:23.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I say, some people tell me. We just like to hear you saying it.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.61,0:17:26.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So...um...I hope you enjoy me saying it anyway.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.67,0:17:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, the debate topic is this: Is Creation
Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.08,0:17:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a viable model of origins in today's modern scientific era?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.96,0:17:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, when this was first announced on the internet,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.58,0:17:37.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there were lots of statements-- like this one
Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.55,0:17:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the Richard Dawkins Foundation.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.50,0:17:42.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Scientists should not debate Creationists. Period."
Dialogue: 0,0:17:42.09,0:17:45.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this one from one of the Discovery.com websites.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.67,0:17:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Should Scientists Debate Creationists?"
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.96,0:17:50.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, right here I believe there's a gross misrepresentation
Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.39,0:17:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our culture. We're seeing people being indoctrinated
Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.00,0:17:57.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to believe that Creationists can't be Scientists.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.62,0:18:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe it's all a part of secularists hi-jacking the word "Science".
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.50,0:18:05.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want you to meet a modern-day scientist who's a Biblical Creationist.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.50,0:18:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My name is Stuart Burgess.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.38,0:18:11.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm a professor of Engineering Design at Bristol University in the U.K.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.47,0:18:24.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have published over a 130 scientific papers on
Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.04,0:18:28.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the scientific design in Engineering and Biological systems.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.21,0:18:31.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From my research work, I find that the scientific evidence
Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.77,0:18:35.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fully supports Creationism as the best explanation to origins.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.24,0:18:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've also designed major parts of space crafts,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.94,0:18:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,launched by ESA and NASA.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.83,0:18:43.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So here's a biblical Creationist,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.80,0:18:46.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's a scientist, who's also an inventor.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.21,0:18:48.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I want young people to understand that.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.67,0:18:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, the problem, I believe, is this: we need to define terms correctly.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.93,0:18:55.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need to define Creation/Evolution in regard to origins
Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.100,0:18:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we need to define science. And in this opening statement,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.88,0:19:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to concentrate on dealing with the word "science".
Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.60,0:19:05.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe the word "science" has been hijacked by secularists.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.22,0:19:06.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, what is science?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.55,0:19:09.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, the origin of the word comes from the Classical Latin "scientia",
Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.94,0:19:12.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which means "to know". And if you look up a dictionary,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.39,0:19:14.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it'll say science means "the state of knowing, knowledge".
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.91,0:19:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there's different types of knowledge and I believe
Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.00,0:19:18.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is where the confusion lies.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.46,0:19:21.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's experimental or observational sciences, as we call it.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.70,0:19:24.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's using the scientific method, observation,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:24.40,0:19:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,measurement, experiment, testing. That's what produces
Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.50,0:19:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our technology, computers, space craft, jet planes,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.06,0:19:35.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,smoke detectors, looking at DNA, antibiotics, medicines and vaccines.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.19,0:19:39.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, all scientists, whether Creationists or Evolutionists,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.16,0:19:43.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually have the same observational or experimental science.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.61,0:19:46.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it doesn't matter whether you're a Creationist or an Evolutionist,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:46.23,0:19:47.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can be a great scientist.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.51,0:19:49.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For instance, he's an atheist, who is a great scientist--
Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.69,0:19:52.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Craig Venter, one of the first researchers to sequence the human genome.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.70,0:19:57.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or Dr. Raymond Damadian. He is a man who invented
Dialogue: 0,0:19:57.12,0:20:01.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the MRI scan and revolutionized medicine. He's a biblical Creationist.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.23,0:20:03.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I want us to also understand molecules-to-man
Dialogue: 0,0:20:03.67,0:20:07.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evolution belief has nothing to do with developing technology.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.06,0:20:11.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, when we're talking about origins, we're talking about the past.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.17,0:20:13.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're talking about our origins. We weren't there.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.67,0:20:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can't observe that, whether it's molecules-to-man evolution,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.72,0:20:18.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or whether it's a creation account.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.50,0:20:20.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, you're talking about the past.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.31,0:20:23.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'd like to call that Origins or Historical Science,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.14,0:20:25.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knowledge concerning the past. Here at the Creation Museum,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.34,0:20:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we make no apology about the fact that our Origins or Historical science
Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.64,0:20:33.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually is based upon the biblical account of origins.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.22,0:20:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, when you research science textbooks being used
Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.55,0:20:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in public schools, what we found is this:
Dialogue: 0,0:20:39.00,0:20:42.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by and large, they are Origins or Historical Science
Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.23,0:20:46.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,based upon man's ideas about the past--for instance, the ideas of Darwin.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.06,0:20:49.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And our research has found that public school textbooks
Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.31,0:20:53.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are using the same word "science" for Observational Science
Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.27,0:20:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Historical Science. They arbitrarily define science
Dialogue: 0,0:20:56.50,0:20:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as naturalism and outlaw the supernatural.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:59.20,0:21:01.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They present molecules-to-man evolution as fact.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.98,0:21:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are imposing, I believe, the religion
Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.00,0:21:06.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of naturalism or atheism on generations of students.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.51,0:21:09.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, I assert that the word "science" has been hijacked
Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.89,0:21:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by secularists in teaching evolution to force the religion
Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.14,0:21:15.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of naturalism on generations of kids.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.43,0:21:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Secular evolutionists teach that all life developed
Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.60,0:21:20.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by natural processes from some primordial form.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.66,0:21:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That man is just an evolved animal, which has great bearing
Dialogue: 0,0:21:23.80,0:21:25.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on how we view life and death.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.41,0:21:28.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For instance, as Bill states, "It's very hard to accept,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.60,0:21:31.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for many of us, that when you die, it's over."
Dialogue: 0,0:21:31.73,0:21:34.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, you see, the Bible gives us a totally different account of origins,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.84,0:21:38.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of who we are, where we came from, the meaning of life, and our future.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.24,0:21:41.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.75,0:21:44.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:44.87,0:21:48.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whoever believes in Him should not perish and have everlasting life.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:48.70,0:21:53.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So is creation a viable model of origins in today's modern scientific era?
Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.57,0:21:56.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say the creation/evolution debate is a conflict
Dialogue: 0,0:21:56.25,0:21:59.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between two philosophical worldviews based on two different accounts
Dialogue: 0,0:21:59.42,0:22:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of origins or science beliefs and creation
Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.32,0:22:05.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the only viable model of historical science confirmed
Dialogue: 0,0:22:05.57,0:22:09.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by observational science in today's modern scientific era.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:10.24,0:22:14.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is time. I had the unenviable job of being the time-keeper here.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.39,0:22:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm like the referee of football they don't like,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:17.24,0:22:20.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I will periodically, if either one of our debaters
Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.13,0:22:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,runs over on anything, I will stop them in the name of keeping it fair for all.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.28,0:22:26.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Ham, thank you for your comments. Now it's Mr. Nye's
Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.90,0:22:29.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,turn for a five minute opening statement. Mr. Nye.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.33,0:22:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.02,0:22:36.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I very much appreciate you including me in your facility here.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.13,0:22:40.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, looking around the room I think I see just one bow tie.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.07,0:22:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that right? Just one. I'm telling you, once you try it--
Dialogue: 0,0:22:43.74,0:22:47.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh, there's two! That's great. I started wearing bow ties
Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.34,0:22:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I was young, in high school.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:49.92,0:22:52.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father showed me how. His father showed him.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.36,0:22:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's a story associated with this, which I find remarkable.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.34,0:23:03.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My grandfather was in the rotary, and he attended
Dialogue: 0,0:23:03.72,0:23:07.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a convention in Philadelphia, and even in those days,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:07.06,0:23:10.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the turn of the last century, people rented tuxedos.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:10.70,0:23:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the tuxedo came with a bow tie--untied bow tie.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.64,0:23:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he didn't know how to tie it.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:16.72,0:23:19.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So...wasn't sure what to do, but he just took a chance.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:19.93,0:23:23.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He went to the hotel room next door, knocked on the door,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:23.71,0:23:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Excuse me? Can you help me tie my tie?"
Dialogue: 0,0:23:25.86,0:23:28.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the guy said, "Sure. Lie down on the bed."
Dialogue: 0,0:23:31.32,0:23:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So...my grandfather wanted to have the tie on,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:34.90,0:23:38.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wasn't sure what he was getting into, so he's said
Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.43,0:23:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have lain on the bed and the guy tied a perfect bow tie knot and,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:42.50,0:23:44.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite reasonably, my grandfather said,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:44.37,0:23:48.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Thank you. Why'd I have to lie down on the bed?"
Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.04,0:23:49.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The guy said, "I'm an undertaker."
Dialogue: 0,0:23:49.70,0:23:51.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(audience laughs)
Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.70,0:23:54.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the only way I know how to do it.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:54.04,0:23:57.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now that story was presented to me as a true story.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.60,0:24:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It may or may not be. But it gives you something to think about.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:01.50,0:24:04.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's certainly something to remember.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.12,0:24:06.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, here tonight, we're gonna have two stories
Dialogue: 0,0:24:06.83,0:24:12.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we can compare Mr. Ham's story to the story
Dialogue: 0,0:24:12.40,0:24:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from what I will call the outside, from mainstream science.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.04,0:24:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The question tonight is: Does Ken Ham's Creation Model hold up?
Dialogue: 0,0:24:20.90,0:24:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it "viable"?
Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.64,0:24:26.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let me ask you: what would you be doing if you weren't here tonight?
Dialogue: 0,0:24:27.30,0:24:29.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's right, you'd be home watching CSI.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.89,0:24:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CSI Petersburg. Is that coming--I think it's coming.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.96,0:24:40.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And on CSI, there is no distinction made between
Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.90,0:24:43.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,historical science and observational science.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.69,0:24:46.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are construct unique to Mr. Ham.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.77,0:24:50.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't normally have these anywhere in the world except here.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.02,0:24:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Natural laws that applied in the past apply now.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.68,0:24:56.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why they're natural laws. That's why we embrace them.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.60,0:24:58.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's how we made all these discoveries
Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.91,0:25:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that enabled all this remarkable technology.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:01.43,0:25:05.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So CSI is a fictional show, but it's based absolutely
Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.17,0:25:07.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on real people doing real work.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.15,0:25:09.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you go to a crime scene and find evidence,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.77,0:25:13.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have clues about the past. And you trust those clues
Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.13,0:25:16.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you embrace them and you move forward to convict somebody.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.34,0:25:20.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Ham and his followers have this remarkable view
Dialogue: 0,0:25:20.13,0:25:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a worldwide flood that somehow influenced everything that we observe in nature.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:26.56,0:25:32.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A 500 foot wooden boat, eight zookeepers for 14,000 individual animals,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.93,0:25:37.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every land, plant in the world under water for a full year?
Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.12,0:25:40.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I ask us all: is that really reasonable?
Dialogue: 0,0:25:40.84,0:25:43.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You'll hear a lot about the Grand Canyon, I imagine, also,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:43.43,0:25:46.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a remarkable place and it has fossils.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:46.40,0:25:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the fossils in the Grand Canyon are found in layers.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:51.13,0:25:53.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's not a single place in the Grand Canyon
Dialogue: 0,0:25:53.81,0:25:56.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the fossils of one type of animal cross over
Dialogue: 0,0:25:56.73,0:25:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the fossils of another. In other words,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:59.20,0:26:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when there was a big flood on the earth, you would expect
Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.56,0:26:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drowning animals to swim up to a higher level.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.83,0:26:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not any one of them did. Not a single one.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:09.36,0:26:13.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you could find evidence of that, my friends, you could change the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.60,0:26:16.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I just wanna remind us all:
Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.61,0:26:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are billions of people in the world who are deeply religious,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:22.04,0:26:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who get enriched, who have a wonderful sense of community from their religion.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:27.00,0:26:31.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They worship together, they eat together, they live
Dialogue: 0,0:26:31.25,0:26:34.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in their communities and enjoy each others company. Billions of people.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.59,0:26:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But these same people do not embrace the extraordinary view
Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.00,0:26:43.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the earth is somehow only 6,000 years old. That is unique.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:43.67,0:26:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here's my concern: what keeps the United States ahead,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:48.76,0:26:53.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what makes the United States a world leader, is our technology,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.25,0:26:58.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our new ideas, our innovations. If we continue to eschew science,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:58.67,0:27:02.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eschew the process and try to divide science
Dialogue: 0,0:27:02.59,0:27:05.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into observational science and historic science,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:05.80,0:27:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are not gonna move forward. We will not embrace natural laws.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.42,0:27:14.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will not make discoveries. We will not invent and innovate and stay ahead.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.67,0:27:19.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you ask me if Ken Ham's Creation model is viable, I say no.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.94,0:27:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is absolutely not viable. So stay with us over the next period
Dialogue: 0,0:27:24.53,0:27:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can compare my evidence to his. Thank you all very much.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:28.34,0:27:30.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(audience applauds)
Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.38,0:27:31.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(moderator) All right.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:33.90,0:27:35.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very nice start by both of our debaters here.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:35.10,0:27:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now each of one will offer a thirty minute,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:37.71,0:27:43.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,illustrated presentation to fully offer their case for us to consider.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.90,0:27:44.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Ham, you're up.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:57.38,0:28:00.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, the debate topic was "Is creation a viable model
Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.26,0:28:02.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of origins in today's modern scientific era?"
Dialogue: 0,0:28:02.99,0:28:06.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I made the statement at the end of my opening statement:
Dialogue: 0,0:28:06.79,0:28:09.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creation is the only viable model of historical science
Dialogue: 0,0:28:09.46,0:28:13.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,confirmed by observational science in today's modern scientific era.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.27,0:28:16.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said what we need to be doing is actually defining
Dialogue: 0,0:28:16.71,0:28:22.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our terms and, particularly three terms: science, creation, and evolution.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.13,0:28:25.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I discussed the meaning of the word "science"
Dialogue: 0,0:28:25.01,0:28:28.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what is meant by experimental and observational science briefly.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:28.49,0:28:30.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that both Creationists and Evolutionists
Dialogue: 0,0:28:30.63,0:28:35.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be great scientists, for instance. I mentioned Craig Venter, a biologist.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:35.96,0:28:37.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's an atheist and he's a great scientist.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.83,0:28:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was one of the first researchers to sequence the human genome.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:41.02,0:28:46.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also mentioned Dr. Raymond Damadian, who actually invented the MRI scanner.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:46.53,0:28:52.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want you to meet a biblical creationist who is a scientist and an inventor.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:52.14,0:28:54.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi, my name is Dr. Raymond Damadian.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:54.87,0:28:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am a Young Earth Creation Scientist and believe that God
Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.04,0:29:01.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,created the world in six 24 hour days,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:01.21,0:29:03.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just as recorded in the book of Genesis.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.83,0:29:07.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By God's grace and the devoted prayers of my Godly mother-in-law,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:07.55,0:29:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I invented the MRI scanner in 1969.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:11.01,0:29:14.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea that scientists who believe the earth
Dialogue: 0,0:29:14.46,0:29:19.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is 6,000 years old cannot do real science is simply wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:19.33,0:29:21.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, he's most adamant about that.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:21.19,0:29:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, actually, he revolutionized medicine! He's a biblical Creationist.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:24.80,0:29:29.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I encourage children to follow people like that, make them their heroes.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:29.43,0:29:33.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me introduce you to another biblical Creation Scientist.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.20,0:29:34.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My name is Danny Faulkner.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:34.100,0:29:38.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I received my PhD in astronomy from Indiana University.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.71,0:29:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For 26 and a half years, I was a professor
Dialogue: 0,0:29:41.60,0:29:43.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the University of South Carolina, Lancaster,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:43.79,0:29:47.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I hold the rank of distinguished professor emeritus.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:47.30,0:29:51.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Upon my retirement from the university in January of 2013,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.21,0:29:56.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I joined the research staff at Answers in Genesis. I'm a stellar astronomer.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:56.43,0:30:00.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That means my primary interests is stars, but I'm particularly
Dialogue: 0,0:30:00.27,0:30:02.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interested in the study of eclipsing binary stars.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:02.71,0:30:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've published many articles in the astronomy literature,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:05.83,0:30:07.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,places such as the the Astrophysical Journal,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:07.50,0:30:10.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Astronomical Journal, and the Observatory.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:10.44,0:30:16.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is nothing in observational astronomy that contradicts a recent creation.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.57,0:30:19.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also mentioned Dr. Stuart Burgess,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:19.63,0:30:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,professor of Engineering Design at Bristol University in England.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:24.30,0:30:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now he invented and designed a double-action worm gear set
Dialogue: 0,0:30:28.88,0:30:33.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the three hinges of the robotic arm on a very expensive satellite.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:33.13,0:30:36.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if that had not worked, if that gear set had not worked,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:36.29,0:30:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that whole satellite would've been useless.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:38.54,0:30:43.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yet, Dr. Burgess is a biblical Creationist. He believes, just as I believe.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:43.21,0:30:45.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, think about this for a moment.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:45.71,0:30:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A scientist like Dr. Burgess,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:47.60,0:30:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who believe in Creation, just as I do,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.87,0:30:51.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a small minority in this scientific world.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.86,0:30:55.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But let's see what he says about scientists believing in Creation.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:55.46,0:30:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I find that many of my colleagues in academia are sympathetic
Dialogue: 0,0:30:58.80,0:31:02.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the creationist viewpoint, including biologists.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:02.09,0:31:06.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, there are often afraid to speak out because of the criticisms
Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.21,0:31:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they would get from the media and atheists lobby.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.04,0:31:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I agree. That's a real problem today.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:11.01,0:31:14.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need to have freedom to be able to speak on these topics.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.46,0:31:18.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I just want to say, by the way, that Creationists,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.13,0:31:21.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,non-Christian scientists, I should say,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:21.57,0:31:23.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,non-Christian scientists are really borrowing
Dialogue: 0,0:31:23.74,0:31:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the Christian worldview anyway to carry out their experimental,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.86,0:31:30.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,observational science. Think about it. When they're doing
Dialogue: 0,0:31:30.21,0:31:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,observational science, using the scientific method,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.83,0:31:34.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have to assume the laws of logic,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.37,0:31:35.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have to assume the laws of nature,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:35.83,0:31:37.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have to assume the uniformity of nature.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:37.100,0:31:41.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, think about it. If the universe came about by natural processes,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:41.11,0:31:43.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where'd the laws of logic come from? Did they just pop into existence?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:43.92,0:31:46.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are we in a stage now where we only have half-logic?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:46.83,0:31:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you see, I have a question for Bill Nye.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:49.60,0:31:52.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you account for the laws of logic and the laws of nature
Dialogue: 0,0:31:52.100,0:31:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from a naturalistic worldview that excludes the existence of God?
Dialogue: 0,0:31:57.04,0:32:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, in my opening statement I also discussed
Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.83,0:32:04.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a different type of science or knowledge, origins or historical science.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:04.63,0:32:08.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See again, there's a confusion here. There's a misunderstanding here.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:08.66,0:32:13.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People, by and large, have not been taught to look at
Dialogue: 0,0:32:13.18,0:32:17.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you believe about the past as different to what you're observing in the present.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.51,0:32:20.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't observe the past directly.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.35,0:32:24.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even when you think about the creation account.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:24.68,0:32:26.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, we can't observe God creating.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:26.74,0:32:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can't observe the creation of Adam and Eve. We admit that.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.56,0:32:32.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're willing to admit our beliefs about the past.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:32.14,0:32:35.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, see, what you see in the present is very different.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.34,0:32:39.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even some public school textbooks actually sort of acknowledge
Dialogue: 0,0:32:39.62,0:32:41.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the difference between historical and observational science.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:41.96,0:32:45.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here is an Earth Science textbook that's used in public schools.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.56,0:32:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we read this. In contrast to physical geology,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:48.60,0:32:52.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the aim of historical geology is to understand Earth's long history.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:52.81,0:32:54.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then they make this statement.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:54.31,0:32:57.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Historical geology--so we're talking historical science--
Dialogue: 0,0:32:57.09,0:33:00.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tries to establish a timeline of the vast number of physical
Dialogue: 0,0:33:00.90,0:33:03.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and biological changes that have occurred in the past.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:03.21,0:33:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We study physical geology before historical geology
Dialogue: 0,0:33:06.81,0:33:11.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we first must understand how Earth works before we try to unravel its past.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:11.37,0:33:14.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other words, we observe things in the present and then,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.56,0:33:18.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay, we're assuming that that's always happened in the past
Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.16,0:33:20.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're gonna try and figure out how this happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:20.44,0:33:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See, there is a difference between what you observe
Dialogue: 0,0:33:22.25,0:33:26.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what happened in the past. Let me illustrate it this way:
Dialogue: 0,0:33:27.34,0:33:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If Bill Nye and I went to the Grand Canyon,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:29.20,0:33:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we could agree that that's a Coconino sandstone in the Hermit shale.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:32.60,0:33:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's the boundary. They're sitting one on top of the other.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:35.16,0:33:38.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We could agree on that. But you know what we would disagree on?
Dialogue: 0,0:33:38.57,0:33:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, we could even analyse the minerals and agree on that.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.78,0:33:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we would disagree on how long it took to get there.