WEBVTT 00:12:43.881 --> 00:12:46.111 Oh, hi kids! I have an incredible message for you. 00:12:46.111 --> 00:12:48.715 Hey, can someone take Germa back to the petting zoo? 00:12:48.715 --> 00:12:50.670 Wow! That looks like fun. 00:12:50.670 --> 00:12:52.456 Now, where was I? Oh, yes. 00:12:52.456 --> 00:12:55.315 In 2014, kids 12 and under come free. 00:12:55.315 --> 00:12:57.785 Hey! Shouldn't the comets be in the Planetarium? 00:12:57.785 --> 00:13:01.042 For the entire year, kids 12 and under come free. 00:13:01.042 --> 00:13:04.123 Hey, T-Rex! You better get back to the dinosaur den. 00:13:04.123 --> 00:13:06.819 As you can see, it's a very exciting place. 00:13:06.819 --> 00:13:07.982 Now tell your parents! 00:13:07.982 --> 00:13:11.650 Kids 12 and under free in 2014 when accompanied by a paying adult. 00:13:11.650 --> 00:13:13.259 We hope to see you soon! 00:13:14.474 --> 00:13:17.511 Good evening. I'm pleased to welcome you to Legacy Hall 00:13:17.511 --> 00:13:20.252 of the Creation Museum in Northern Kentucky 00:13:20.252 --> 00:13:23.083 in the metropolitan area of Cincinnati. 00:13:23.083 --> 00:13:26.013 I'm Tom Foreman from CNN and I'm pleased to be tonight's 00:13:26.013 --> 00:13:30.201 moderator for this Evolution versus Creation debate. 00:13:30.201 --> 00:13:32.989 This is a very old question! Where did we come from? 00:13:34.219 --> 00:13:36.758 My answer is from Washington this morning by airplane. 00:13:36.758 --> 00:13:38.988 (laughter from audience) 00:13:38.988 --> 00:13:42.797 But there is a much more profound, longer answer 00:13:42.797 --> 00:13:44.979 that people have sought after for a long time. 00:13:44.979 --> 00:13:47.882 So tonight's question to be debated is the following: 00:13:47.882 --> 00:13:55.171 Is Creation a viable model of origins in today's modern, scientific era? 00:13:55.171 --> 00:13:58.009 Our welcome extends to hundreds of thousands of people 00:13:58.009 --> 00:14:01.841 who are watching on the internet at debatelive.org. 00:14:01.841 --> 00:14:02.938 We're glad you have joined us. 00:14:02.938 --> 00:14:05.047 Of course, you are auditory and here, 00:14:05.047 --> 00:14:06.418 all the folks who've joined us as well. 00:14:06.418 --> 00:14:09.988 We're joined by 70 media representatives from many 00:14:09.988 --> 00:14:11.668 of the world's great news organizations. 00:14:11.668 --> 00:14:13.589 We're glad to have them here as well. 00:14:13.589 --> 00:14:17.980 And now let's welcome our debaters: Mr. Bill Nye and Mr. Ken Ham. 00:14:17.980 --> 00:14:20.885 (audience applauds) 00:14:48.031 --> 00:14:50.199 We had a coin toss earlier to determine 00:14:50.199 --> 00:14:52.241 who would go first of these two men. 00:14:52.241 --> 00:14:54.372 The only thing missing was Joe Namath in a fur coat. 00:14:54.372 --> 00:14:59.112 But it went very well. Mr. Ham won the coin toss 00:14:59.112 --> 00:15:04.032 and he opted to speak first. But first, let me tell you 00:15:04.032 --> 00:15:05.695 a little bit about both of these gentlemen. 00:15:05.695 --> 00:15:08.178 Mr. Nye's website describes him as a scientist, 00:15:08.178 --> 00:15:10.480 engineer, comedian, author, and inventor. 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:14.154 Mr Nye, as you may know, produced a number of award-winning TV shows, 00:15:14.154 --> 00:15:16.752 including a program he became so well-known for: 00:15:16.752 --> 00:15:19.148 Bill Nye the Science Guy. 00:15:19.148 --> 00:15:21.920 While working on the Science Guy show, Mr. Nye won 00:15:21.920 --> 00:15:24.694 seven national Emmy awards for writing, performing, 00:15:24.694 --> 00:15:28.647 and producing the show. Won 18 Emmys in five years! 00:15:28.647 --> 00:15:32.752 In between creating the shows, he wrote five kids books about science, 00:15:32.752 --> 00:15:36.918 including his latest title, Bill Nye's Great Big Book of Tiny Germs. 00:15:36.918 --> 00:15:40.449 Billy Nye is the host of three television series: 00:15:40.449 --> 00:15:42.748 his program, "The 100 Greatest Discoveries"-- 00:15:42.748 --> 00:15:44.916 it airs on the Science Channel. "The Eyes of Nye"-- 00:15:44.916 --> 00:15:48.278 airs on PBS stations across the country. He frequenly appears 00:15:48.278 --> 00:15:51.281 on interview programs to discuss a variety of science topics. 00:15:51.281 --> 00:15:55.280 Mr. Nye serves as Executive Director of the Planetary Society, 00:15:55.280 --> 00:15:57.700 the world's largest space interest group. 00:15:57.700 --> 00:16:00.528 He is a graduate of Cornell, with a Bachelors 00:16:00.528 --> 00:16:03.189 of Science degree in Mechanical Engineering. 00:16:03.189 --> 00:16:07.852 Mr. Ken Ham is the president and co-founder of Answers of Genesis, 00:16:07.852 --> 00:16:10.982 a bible-defending organization that upholds the authority 00:16:10.982 --> 00:16:12.858 of the scriptures from the very first verse. 00:16:12.858 --> 00:16:16.778 Mr. Ham is the man behind the popular, high-tech 00:16:16.778 --> 00:16:18.833 Creation Museum, where we're holding this debate. 00:16:18.833 --> 00:16:21.329 The museum has had 2 million visitors in six years 00:16:21.329 --> 00:16:23.293 and has attracted much of the world's media. 00:16:23.293 --> 00:16:26.054 The Answers in Genesis website, as well, trafficked 00:16:26.054 --> 00:16:29.165 with 2 million visitors alone last month. Mr. Ham is also 00:16:29.165 --> 00:16:32.578 a best-selling author, a much in-demand speaker, 00:16:32.578 --> 00:16:36.949 and the host of a daily radio feature carried on 700 plus stations. 00:16:36.949 --> 00:16:40.891 This is his second public debate on Evolution and Creation. 00:16:40.891 --> 00:16:43.852 The first was at Harvard, in the 1990s. 00:16:43.852 --> 00:16:46.521 Mr. Ham is a native of Australia. He earned 00:16:46.521 --> 00:16:48.993 a Bachelors degree in Applied Science, with an emphasis in 00:16:48.993 --> 00:16:52.613 Environmental Biology, from the Queensland's Institute of Technology, 00:16:52.613 --> 00:16:55.833 as well as a Diploma of Education at the University 00:16:55.833 --> 00:16:59.240 of Queensland in Brisbon, Australia. 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:02.621 And now...Mr. Ham, you opted to go first, so you will 00:17:02.621 --> 00:17:05.575 be first with your five minute opening statement. 00:17:08.882 --> 00:17:11.120 Well, good evening. I know that not everyone watching 00:17:11.120 --> 00:17:14.442 this debate will necessarily agree with what I have to say, 00:17:14.442 --> 00:17:17.610 but I'm an Aussie and live over here in America 00:17:17.610 --> 00:17:20.120 and they tell me I have an accent and so it doesn't matter 00:17:20.120 --> 00:17:23.614 what I say, some people tell me. We just like to hear you saying it. 00:17:23.614 --> 00:17:26.671 So...um...I hope you enjoy me saying it anyway. 00:17:26.671 --> 00:17:29.082 Well, the debate topic is this: Is Creation 00:17:29.082 --> 00:17:32.956 a viable model of origins in today's modern scientific era? 00:17:32.956 --> 00:17:35.583 You know, when this was first announced on the internet, 00:17:35.583 --> 00:17:37.550 there were lots of statements-- like this one 00:17:37.550 --> 00:17:39.503 from the Richard Dawkins Foundation. 00:17:39.503 --> 00:17:42.088 "Scientists should not debate Creationists. Period." 00:17:42.088 --> 00:17:45.666 And this one from one of the Discovery.com websites. 00:17:45.666 --> 00:17:47.955 "Should Scientists Debate Creationists?" 00:17:47.955 --> 00:17:50.390 You know, right here I believe there's a gross misrepresentation 00:17:50.390 --> 00:17:55.001 in our culture. We're seeing people being indoctrinated 00:17:55.001 --> 00:17:57.620 to believe that Creationists can't be Scientists. 00:17:57.620 --> 00:18:01.503 I believe it's all a part of secularists hi-jacking the word "Science". 00:18:01.503 --> 00:18:05.497 I want you to meet a modern-day scientist who's a Biblical Creationist. 00:18:05.497 --> 00:18:07.377 My name is Stuart Burgess. 00:18:07.377 --> 00:18:11.613 I'm a professor of Engineering Design at Bristol University in the U.K. 00:18:20.471 --> 00:18:24.042 I have published over a 130 scientific papers on 00:18:24.042 --> 00:18:28.046 the scientific design in Engineering and Biological systems. (stopped 18:29)