WEBVTT 00:00:07.246 --> 00:00:08.786 Hello, everybody. 00:00:08.786 --> 00:00:10.815 It's great to be here. Thank you very much. 00:00:10.815 --> 00:00:14.915 I'm going to talk about how quantum biology can save the world 00:00:14.915 --> 00:00:17.595 and the threats to the world - in the immediate future, 00:00:17.595 --> 00:00:19.695 not worrying about the Omega Point like Frank 00:00:19.695 --> 00:00:21.465 but in the next 100 to 1,000 years - 00:00:21.465 --> 00:00:26.065 overcrowding, hatred, wars, terrorism - all basically due to overpopulation - 00:00:26.065 --> 00:00:29.365 disease, lack of food and energy, pollution and warming, 00:00:29.365 --> 00:00:30.895 lack of purpose and meaning - 00:00:30.895 --> 00:00:34.525 kind of an existential crisis: who are we and why are we here? 00:00:35.723 --> 00:00:41.033 The world under threat appears to be divided into two realms 00:00:41.033 --> 00:00:43.843 described by two different sets of physical laws. 00:00:43.843 --> 00:00:46.773 The quantum - which is cut off a little bit, oh no, it's not - 00:00:47.713 --> 00:00:50.691 which is immaterial, coexisting possibilities, 00:00:50.691 --> 00:00:53.411 non-local, unified, connected, 00:00:53.411 --> 00:00:56.461 has some ultimate truth - although we don't know what it is yet - 00:00:56.461 --> 00:00:58.081 deeper levels of reality, 00:00:58.081 --> 00:01:00.521 and in many senses: spirit-like. 00:01:00.521 --> 00:01:01.551 The classical world, 00:01:01.551 --> 00:01:06.261 the billiard-ball universe that we live in right now - 00:01:06.261 --> 00:01:09.381 appear to, entirely, but not so - 00:01:09.381 --> 00:01:14.491 is material, Newtonian, definite, macroscopic, local, predictable, 00:01:14.491 --> 00:01:18.491 disconnected, postmodern, and somewhat boring, actually. 00:01:18.491 --> 00:01:20.201 (Laughter) 00:01:21.420 --> 00:01:22.870 Now, what is life? 00:01:23.960 --> 00:01:26.631 If you approach life from classical physics, 00:01:26.631 --> 00:01:29.871 you see that biology is a set of self-organizing functions. 00:01:29.871 --> 00:01:31.361 There's no secret to life. 00:01:31.361 --> 00:01:34.001 Brain activities are equivalent to computers. 00:01:34.001 --> 00:01:37.751 Consciousness is epiphenomenal illusion with no causal power. 00:01:37.751 --> 00:01:41.481 That's the party line in standard neuroscience and philosophy. 00:01:41.481 --> 00:01:44.001 Accordingly, Thomas Huxley said years ago, 00:01:44.001 --> 00:01:48.571 "We're merely conscious automata, helpless spectators," like Pac-Man. 00:01:48.571 --> 00:01:49.671 That's the story we get 00:01:49.671 --> 00:01:52.721 from classical physics' approach to the brain. 00:01:52.721 --> 00:01:55.922 Now, applying quantum physics to biology, 00:01:55.922 --> 00:01:59.552 first by Erwin Schrödinger, who came up with Schrödinger's equation, 00:01:59.552 --> 00:02:02.482 Schrödinger's cat, Schrödinger's book "What Is Life?" - 00:02:02.482 --> 00:02:07.242 where he suggested that quantum effects play key roles in living systems - 00:02:07.242 --> 00:02:10.762 and Schrödinger's protein, which was proven in 2007, 00:02:10.762 --> 00:02:13.262 showing that protein can be in quantum superposition 00:02:13.262 --> 00:02:15.782 of two or more different states at the same time. 00:02:15.782 --> 00:02:18.332 He suggested, and many of us have followed to suggest, 00:02:18.332 --> 00:02:20.912 that quantum features, non-local entanglement, 00:02:20.912 --> 00:02:22.492 superposition, unity, 00:02:22.492 --> 00:02:26.632 quantum coherence, quantum information, a kind of quantum vitalism, 00:02:26.632 --> 00:02:29.232 may play key roles in biological functions, 00:02:29.232 --> 00:02:31.492 such as cell division, mitosis, 00:02:31.492 --> 00:02:34.972 how the centrioles guide the chromosomes' separations, 00:02:34.972 --> 00:02:37.682 which has to be perfect or else can lead to cancer. 00:02:37.682 --> 00:02:41.142 Healing - maybe have some kind of non-local component. 00:02:41.142 --> 00:02:42.539 And also, consciousness. 00:02:42.539 --> 00:02:44.699 As Walters mentioned, 00:02:44.699 --> 00:02:48.849 Roger Penrose and I have developed a theory of consciousness called Orch OR - 00:02:48.849 --> 00:02:50.599 I don't have time to go into it now. 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:52.969 It basically proposes quantum computation 00:02:52.969 --> 00:02:56.089 in brain neuron microtubules inside neurons. 00:02:56.089 --> 00:02:58.289 So rather than neuron-to-neuron communication, 00:02:58.289 --> 00:03:00.799 we're looking at a deeper level inside neurons 00:03:00.799 --> 00:03:03.889 to give a global sense of consciousness through quantum mechanics, 00:03:03.889 --> 00:03:06.969 which results in real-time causality 00:03:06.969 --> 00:03:07.979 and free will. 00:03:07.979 --> 00:03:10.339 We avoid the problem of epiphenomenal; 00:03:10.339 --> 00:03:12.959 it gives consciousness real-time control 00:03:12.959 --> 00:03:16.729 and a potential connection to fundamental space-time geometry, 00:03:16.729 --> 00:03:20.499 quantum space-time geometry, through Roger's objective reduction. 00:03:20.499 --> 00:03:23.189 This is consistent with Eastern spiritual traditions. 00:03:23.189 --> 00:03:25.309 Although Roger doesn't like to talk about it, 00:03:25.309 --> 00:03:29.899 I've taken the liberty of observing the implications of what he said 00:03:29.899 --> 00:03:31.749 and what we've said for consciousness, 00:03:31.749 --> 00:03:35.539 for Eastern philosophy and other spiritual traditions. 00:03:35.539 --> 00:03:39.015 But the skeptics said, "Living systems are too warm, wet and noisy. 00:03:39.015 --> 00:03:41.895 Quantum coherence is destroyed by decoherence." 00:03:41.895 --> 00:03:43.315 Decoherence. 00:03:43.315 --> 00:03:45.057 But in the last five years, 00:03:45.057 --> 00:03:48.407 multiple lines of evidence starting with photosynthesis 00:03:48.407 --> 00:03:52.837 have shown that quantum coherence occurs in warm biological systems, routinely. 00:03:52.837 --> 00:03:56.367 The plants, the food we eat, all depend on quantum coherence. 00:03:56.367 --> 00:03:59.397 Plants absorbing photons, converting to chemical energy, 00:03:59.397 --> 00:04:01.307 utilizing quantum coherence. 00:04:01.307 --> 00:04:04.647 Also, recently, honored Bandyopadhyay 00:04:04.647 --> 00:04:07.217 at the National Institute of Material Sciences in Japan 00:04:07.217 --> 00:04:09.277 has shown that there is megahertz coherence, 00:04:09.277 --> 00:04:11.897 quantum conductance, and topological qubits 00:04:11.897 --> 00:04:14.297 in microtubules at room temperature. 00:04:14.297 --> 00:04:16.367 Very exciting work. 00:04:16.367 --> 00:04:20.122 Quantum biology papers, conferences are popping up like flowers in the spring. 00:04:20.122 --> 00:04:22.152 Sessions at the American Physical Society, 00:04:22.152 --> 00:04:26.152 recently at Google - the Google Workshop on Quantum Biology, and elsewhere. 00:04:27.271 --> 00:04:29.011 How is this going to save the world? 00:04:29.011 --> 00:04:33.151 Let's go back to our threats to the world and consider the first one: 00:04:33.151 --> 00:04:35.861 overcrowding, hatred, wars and terrorism. 00:04:35.861 --> 00:04:38.015 That's a tough one. We'll save that for last. 00:04:38.015 --> 00:04:39.675 We'll come back to that. 00:04:39.675 --> 00:04:42.685 Okay, disease. Jeff mentioned a little bit about this. 00:04:42.685 --> 00:04:44.965 But if life is a quantum system, 00:04:44.965 --> 00:04:48.785 we can ask, "How is quantum coherence optimized in a healthy state?" 00:04:48.785 --> 00:04:51.615 We have a different endpoint to shoot for. 00:04:51.615 --> 00:04:54.215 We can consider disease as decoherence, 00:04:54.215 --> 00:04:58.365 disease as a process that tends to destroy quantum coherence, 00:04:58.365 --> 00:05:01.415 which is the optimal form of living systems. 00:05:01.415 --> 00:05:05.685 Also, a real-time molecular code for memory, cognition, and consciousness 00:05:05.685 --> 00:05:08.055 can be co-opted for therapy. 00:05:08.055 --> 00:05:10.415 So, in the microtubules that I mentioned 00:05:10.415 --> 00:05:15.305 there's an information code that tells motor proteins where to deliver proteins, 00:05:15.305 --> 00:05:17.535 precursors for synapses, tile proteins. 00:05:17.535 --> 00:05:20.065 And when this goes bad, we have Alzheimer's disease. 00:05:21.585 --> 00:05:25.125 A molecule called CaMKII seems to take synaptic information 00:05:25.125 --> 00:05:28.065 and deposit it in microtubules in a memory code. 00:05:28.065 --> 00:05:33.165 I think this is going to be the equivalent in real-time coding of the DNA code 00:05:33.165 --> 00:05:37.445 that was discovered by Watson and Crick. 00:05:37.445 --> 00:05:42.225 When we can take advantage of it, we'll be able to treat diseases 00:05:42.225 --> 00:05:45.325 by interfacing and connecting to the real-time molecular code 00:05:45.325 --> 00:05:46.535 inside the cells. 00:05:46.535 --> 00:05:49.565 Okay, the next question: how can quantum biology save the world? 00:05:49.565 --> 00:05:52.115 Lack of food and energy. 00:05:52.115 --> 00:05:56.512 Highly efficient quantum conductance converting sunlight to chemical energy 00:05:56.512 --> 00:05:59.002 used in photosynthesis, which has been proven, 00:05:59.002 --> 00:06:02.032 should be able to be emulated in substances 00:06:02.032 --> 00:06:03.829 like graphenes and fullerenes 00:06:03.829 --> 00:06:07.662 to revolutionize molecular agriculture and solar power. 00:06:07.662 --> 00:06:10.712 Mohan Sarovar, UC Berkeley, is working in this direction; 00:06:10.712 --> 00:06:13.472 he's one of the people working in photosynthesis. 00:06:13.472 --> 00:06:15.246 Okay, pollution and warming. 00:06:15.246 --> 00:06:16.606 The same answer: 00:06:16.606 --> 00:06:20.786 extremely efficient, clean solar energy with quantum conductance 00:06:20.786 --> 00:06:24.456 can potentially help us a lot in terms of pollution and warming. 00:06:25.487 --> 00:06:28.277 OK, what about lack of purpose and meaning? 00:06:28.277 --> 00:06:30.757 Who are we and why are we here? 00:06:30.757 --> 00:06:33.346 Well, if quantum consciousness is correct, 00:06:33.346 --> 00:06:35.806 for example, if Penrose's idea is correct, 00:06:35.806 --> 00:06:37.316 we are literally ripples 00:06:37.316 --> 00:06:40.046 in the fine structure of space-time geometry, 00:06:40.049 --> 00:06:41.509 which can resonate - 00:06:41.509 --> 00:06:45.279 levels of consciousness can resonate from the Planck scale, 00:06:46.256 --> 00:06:51.506 the bottom level of the Universe, multiple hierarchical levels to the brain. 00:06:52.617 --> 00:06:55.027 This is consistent with Eastern philosophy 00:06:55.027 --> 00:07:00.217 and also indicates that afterlife, reincarnation, and out-of-body experiences 00:07:00.217 --> 00:07:02.107 that we've heard about are plausible. 00:07:02.107 --> 00:07:03.267 The quantum soul. 00:07:03.267 --> 00:07:06.497 This may be scientifically feasible. 00:07:06.497 --> 00:07:08.798 Here's a picture of an out-of-body experience. 00:07:08.798 --> 00:07:12.978 I work in medicine, in anesthesiology; we hear stories about this all the time. 00:07:12.978 --> 00:07:16.298 Statistical examinations of people having cardiac arrest 00:07:16.298 --> 00:07:17.668 show it's a real effect, 00:07:17.668 --> 00:07:20.087 and the near-death experience 00:07:20.087 --> 00:07:22.927 is something that really needs to be studied. 00:07:22.927 --> 00:07:27.527 Okay, let's go to the tough one: overcrowding, hatred, wars, and terrorism. 00:07:29.007 --> 00:07:34.627 I would suggest these are caused largely by internal drives for conscious feelings: 00:07:34.627 --> 00:07:38.627 sexual pleasure, fear, anger, salvation. 00:07:39.433 --> 00:07:40.813 It's a bit simplified, 00:07:40.813 --> 00:07:46.233 but what if conscious quantum coherence in the brain could be optimally tuned? 00:07:46.233 --> 00:07:48.713 For example, by ultrasound at resonant frequencies 00:07:48.713 --> 00:07:50.663 for brain microtubules. 00:07:50.663 --> 00:07:55.703 What if, instead of needing to have aggression or sexual attitudes, 00:07:55.703 --> 00:08:00.713 that somebody could have pleasure without going to all the trouble? 00:08:00.713 --> 00:08:02.243 For example, a recent - 00:08:02.243 --> 00:08:04.823 (Laughter) (Applause) 00:08:04.823 --> 00:08:06.651 Thank you. 00:08:06.651 --> 00:08:09.446 A recent approach is using transcranial ultrasound 00:08:09.446 --> 00:08:12.606 which vibrates microtubules at resonant frequencies. 00:08:13.874 --> 00:08:17.574 Jamie Tyler, Arizona State University, just got a big grant from the military 00:08:17.574 --> 00:08:22.954 to study ultrasound brain machine interfaces for military applications 00:08:22.954 --> 00:08:27.114 with the promise for many application in medicine and psychiatry. 00:08:27.114 --> 00:08:29.444 We at the University of Arizona are applying this 00:08:29.444 --> 00:08:32.744 to chronic pain and memory and some other problems. 00:08:34.377 --> 00:08:36.687 I would mention that many of these issues - 00:08:36.687 --> 00:08:38.947 the near-death and out-of-body experiences, 00:08:38.947 --> 00:08:42.627 the backward time effects that can rescue consciousness from epiphenomenalism, 00:08:42.627 --> 00:08:45.487 and transcranial therapies: 00:08:45.487 --> 00:08:47.717 transcranial magnetic, transcranial electrical, 00:08:47.717 --> 00:08:50.247 and transcranial ultrasound therapies - 00:08:50.247 --> 00:08:54.137 will be discussed at this conference in Stockholm next May, 00:08:54.137 --> 00:08:55.917 Toward a Science of Consciousness. 00:08:55.917 --> 00:08:58.617 Roger Penrose and Deepak Chopra on the same program. 00:09:02.644 --> 00:09:05.324 Another possibility for this last problem is: 00:09:05.324 --> 00:09:07.364 What if consciousness could be uploaded 00:09:07.364 --> 00:09:10.344 or quantum teleported even to artificial media, 00:09:10.344 --> 00:09:13.384 made of graphene, fullerene, or microtubule arrays? 00:09:13.384 --> 00:09:15.304 With near infinite possibilities 00:09:15.304 --> 00:09:19.894 for enhanced, enlightened states of consciousness and pleasure. 00:09:19.894 --> 00:09:22.754 This could be - and it would have to be to be able to work - 00:09:22.754 --> 00:09:24.604 to be better than sex. 00:09:24.604 --> 00:09:26.080 Now, is that possible? 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:28.630 Well, this kind of goes back to an idea of Descartes, 00:09:28.630 --> 00:09:32.940 who said, "Perhaps, as far as we know, we are merely a brain in a vat, 00:09:32.940 --> 00:09:35.330 fed information by an evil genius." 00:09:35.330 --> 00:09:40.710 For example, this brain who thinks he or she is walking outside in the sun. 00:09:40.710 --> 00:09:44.010 So maybe in the future we'll have some kind of graphene arrays 00:09:44.010 --> 00:09:46.030 with some kind of conscious experience - 00:09:46.030 --> 00:09:48.740 maybe something like this, maybe you can come up with own; 00:09:48.740 --> 00:09:49.940 it's just a suggestion - 00:09:49.940 --> 00:09:52.570 where perhaps, when our bodies give out, 00:09:52.570 --> 00:09:54.730 we can upload or download our consciousness 00:09:54.730 --> 00:09:56.790 to some alternative medium 00:09:56.790 --> 00:09:58.200 and exist independently 00:09:58.200 --> 00:09:59.600 or just do it for fun. 00:10:01.163 --> 00:10:03.513 So, to conclude I want to say that I believe 00:10:03.513 --> 00:10:06.953 that quantum biology is literally the secret of life, 00:10:06.953 --> 00:10:09.453 and its understanding may save the world. 00:10:09.453 --> 00:10:10.533 Thank you very much. 00:10:10.533 --> 00:10:12.973 (Applause)