WEBVTT 00:00:09.909 --> 00:00:14.524 As you all know, robotics and artificial intelligence 00:00:14.549 --> 00:00:18.500 are on their way to revolutionize space exploration. 00:00:18.758 --> 00:00:21.029 We are only at the beginning. 00:00:21.068 --> 00:00:24.748 NASA will soon send this robot to Mars. 00:00:24.750 --> 00:00:29.442 It will not only move around while reporting exceptional images to us, 00:00:29.457 --> 00:00:31.663 but it is equipped with an articulating arm 00:00:31.684 --> 00:00:36.959 that will allow us to explore the origins of life on this planet. 00:00:37.977 --> 00:00:40.567 I think and I will demonstrate to you 00:00:40.598 --> 00:00:44.525 that robotics can also revolutionize 00:00:44.538 --> 00:00:49.177 our approach to life on our planet this time, 00:00:49.187 --> 00:00:52.529 and especially in these animal populations 00:00:52.549 --> 00:00:56.741 that I have studied since the start of the 1970s. 00:00:57.178 --> 00:00:59.376 I am talking about the King Penguin, 00:00:59.386 --> 00:01:02.891 in the southern territories in the Crozet Islands, 00:01:02.893 --> 00:01:07.433 which we call "the French Galapagos" and contains around 25 million seabirds. 00:01:07.814 --> 00:01:09.589 So at the core of all studies - 00:01:09.609 --> 00:01:13.935 in particular a study leading us to discover 00:01:13.945 --> 00:01:19.694 an anti-microbial molecule in the stomach of penguins 00:01:19.704 --> 00:01:25.087 that enables them to keep fish intact for three weeks, 00:01:25.097 --> 00:01:27.488 at their own body temperature of 37 degrees ... 00:01:27.530 --> 00:01:29.884 Have you ever tried to keep fish at 37°C? 00:01:29.894 --> 00:01:32.963 Well, it becomes a terrible poison after a few days. 00:01:33.116 --> 00:01:35.762 ... It enables them to preserve fish for three weeks 00:01:35.790 --> 00:01:40.575 and to feed their hatching chicks if their partner hasn't come back in time. 00:01:40.901 --> 00:01:43.482 But I want to talk to you about another approach, 00:01:43.497 --> 00:01:45.700 through these identifications 00:01:45.720 --> 00:01:52.737 that consists of following the evolution of their reproductive success and survival 00:01:52.757 --> 00:01:55.658 as indicators of climate change. 00:01:55.893 --> 00:02:01.113 To do so obviously, we need a study with no experimental bias. 00:02:03.504 --> 00:02:07.997 But it is impossible to know if the technique used 00:02:08.007 --> 00:02:12.612 to follow them, identify them and localize them, 00:02:12.631 --> 00:02:15.346 if this technique, 00:02:15.354 --> 00:02:18.842 due to the inconveniences brought in the penguins' moves in the water 00:02:18.852 --> 00:02:20.082 had any impact. 00:02:20.092 --> 00:02:23.037 In any case, it lasted twenty years. 00:02:23.623 --> 00:02:29.341 And one day. while reading a TV guide, 00:02:29.366 --> 00:02:32.066 I discovered the existence of this new technique 00:02:32.086 --> 00:02:34.961 commonly used today for dogs and cats: 00:02:34.981 --> 00:02:38.098 the small chip that goes under their skin. 00:02:38.108 --> 00:02:42.689 It helps vets identify the animal 00:02:42.711 --> 00:02:47.411 by placing an antenna a dozen centimetres away 00:02:47.431 --> 00:02:50.835 because the problem, the limiting factor of this technique 00:02:50.846 --> 00:02:56.056 is that identification is done by using radio frequency 00:02:56.077 --> 00:02:58.512 since there is no battery, 00:02:58.543 --> 00:03:03.998 and this lack of battery is what makes it possible to have a chip that small, 00:03:04.028 --> 00:03:07.015 about 0.8g for the one we use. 00:03:08.766 --> 00:03:11.732 So of course, we began 00:03:11.742 --> 00:03:16.492 by deploying those chips among the penguins, 00:03:16.512 --> 00:03:21.761 half of which were already ringed and the other half were not. 00:03:22.282 --> 00:03:25.039 The result was shocking. 00:03:25.084 --> 00:03:30.419 We were at the beginning of the 1990s when we started this work, 00:03:30.440 --> 00:03:33.349 and we published it in 2011. 00:03:33.379 --> 00:03:35.442 So it took ten years. 00:03:35.536 --> 00:03:37.423 Now how did we do it? 00:03:37.449 --> 00:03:42.449 We installed antennas in the earth, at their crossing points. 00:03:42.481 --> 00:03:44.940 The first crossing lets us know 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:48.385 whether the animal is coming back from the sea or leaves it's colony, 00:03:48.401 --> 00:03:53.626 the chip being close to the earth at level with their feet 00:03:53.648 --> 00:03:56.594 precisely for it to be a short distance away. 00:03:56.645 --> 00:04:00.706 This way, we can follow thousands of birds without disturbing them, 00:04:00.721 --> 00:04:06.759 except that we equipped a number of them to study the impact of rings. 00:04:07.330 --> 00:04:12.253 The result of this shocking impact due to the hindrance of the rings when swimming 00:04:12.274 --> 00:04:16.075 is that when they go away for 20 days, for example, 00:04:16.085 --> 00:04:19.088 they take on an extra ten days. 00:04:19.105 --> 00:04:21.152 This is a very alarming result 00:04:21.182 --> 00:04:25.710 because it means that their reproductive success is lowered by 40% 00:04:25.731 --> 00:04:28.046 and their survival by 16%. 00:04:29.576 --> 00:04:33.802 That's why we did the cover of Nature with commentaries ... 00:04:33.812 --> 00:04:38.032 You can see here the words chosen by the editors: 00:04:38.046 --> 00:04:40.104 "Marked for life". 00:04:40.809 --> 00:04:42.905 In this case of course, 00:04:42.909 --> 00:04:47.082 the reproductive success that was followed by numerous colleagues 00:04:47.102 --> 00:04:52.325 around the whole world, by all the teams including abroad, 00:04:52.345 --> 00:04:55.788 all those results were clearly biased. 00:04:55.984 --> 00:05:01.849 We can't use reproductive success as an indicator of climate change 00:05:01.867 --> 00:05:04.806 when it is lowered by 40% in ten years. 00:05:05.092 --> 00:05:09.327 Today we do without since we are using chips instead 00:05:09.338 --> 00:05:15.863 and, at the moment, we are following 18,000 penguins of different species, 00:05:15.883 --> 00:05:19.351 particularly lots of King Penguins, without disturbing them. 00:05:19.655 --> 00:05:22.316 But I wanted to go even further. 00:05:22.330 --> 00:05:24.766 My ambition was to understand 00:05:24.767 --> 00:05:29.249 how such a colony of 20,000 couples is structured. 00:05:30.060 --> 00:05:34.441 Obviously it's out of the question to have a human walk in the colony on foot, 00:05:34.449 --> 00:05:39.417 to come close to each individual to see if they have a chip. 00:05:40.433 --> 00:05:44.013 So, I had this idea - 00:05:44.033 --> 00:05:46.550 which made some of my colleagues smile who said, 00:05:46.570 --> 00:05:49.867 "That's just an early retiree's fad, it will never work" - 00:05:49.887 --> 00:05:53.580 of creating robots to identify them. 00:05:53.901 --> 00:05:58.654 I had to prove them whether or not approaching the penguins with the robot 00:05:58.664 --> 00:06:02.163 was likely to cause disturbance, 00:06:02.184 --> 00:06:04.629 otherwise it wasn't worth doing it obviously . 00:06:04.745 --> 00:06:07.603 So to do so, we used these kinds of watches 00:06:07.613 --> 00:06:10.457 that are used for jogging. 00:06:10.616 --> 00:06:12.941 They measure your heart rate, 00:06:12.951 --> 00:06:17.941 and your heart rate is an excellent indicator of stress. 00:06:18.893 --> 00:06:22.113 We compared the change in their heart rates 00:06:22.131 --> 00:06:26.738 when a human approaches them and when a robot does so. 00:06:27.187 --> 00:06:32.029 The approach lasts 30 seconds, then the human or the robot stops. 00:06:32.663 --> 00:06:37.945 The increase in their heart rates with the robot was relatively low: 16%. 00:06:37.961 --> 00:06:41.029 This is exactly the value we see 00:06:41.049 --> 00:06:45.133 when penguins pass through the colony next to brooders, 00:06:45.155 --> 00:06:47.142 so a minimal disturbance 00:06:47.163 --> 00:06:50.192 since they are defending their territory, you will see that. 00:06:50.354 --> 00:06:52.790 And as soon as the robot stops, 00:06:52.810 --> 00:06:55.960 the brooder's heart rate comes back down 00:06:55.980 --> 00:07:00.517 to its initial value, its initial "fluctuation" value we could say. 00:07:00.907 --> 00:07:04.028 Now it is quite different in the case of a human. 00:07:04.044 --> 00:07:08.302 You can see that their heart rate increases much more. 00:07:08.322 --> 00:07:12.810 Moreover, it stays at this very high value 00:07:12.830 --> 00:07:16.416 for the entire time the human is there, even when he stops moving. 00:07:16.457 --> 00:07:21.752 And you even have to wait for six or seven minutes after he's left 00:07:21.754 --> 00:07:25.711 for it to get back to its initial fluctuation value. 00:07:25.785 --> 00:07:31.261 It is due to the fact that, in contrast with the robot's presence, 00:07:31.274 --> 00:07:34.624 a human even perfectly still, 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:37.508 creates a reaction of avoidance in all the penguins. 00:07:37.529 --> 00:07:41.951 They retreat with their egg on their feet, and that destrutures the colony. 00:07:42.185 --> 00:07:43.733 So it's an enormous stress. 00:07:43.753 --> 00:07:49.403 Imagine in a colony of 20,000 couples, what that could provoke. 00:07:50.290 --> 00:07:53.051 (Video) (Screams of penguins) 00:07:53.913 --> 00:07:57.103 We were able to start a study on this King penguin, 00:07:57.123 --> 00:08:01.103 with, as you'll see, a robot that approaches them 00:08:01.124 --> 00:08:05.549 and causes individuals without eggs 00:08:05.559 --> 00:08:08.139 and so not defending their territory to move apart. 00:08:08.249 --> 00:08:11.917 In contrast, those who do have eggs - 00:08:11.922 --> 00:08:14.687 you can see a curious little one following... (Laughter) 00:08:14.707 --> 00:08:16.793 ...as the robot progresses - 00:08:16.814 --> 00:08:20.627 those who have eggs defend their territory 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:23.317 with their beaks and fins. 00:08:24.902 --> 00:08:28.030 So this will help us - and we are starting to do this - 00:08:28.044 --> 00:08:30.661 to identify and localize them 00:08:30.691 --> 00:08:35.215 within centimetres, thanks to an extremely advanced GPS, 00:08:35.226 --> 00:08:40.959 and to know how the animals are distributed in the colony, 00:08:40.982 --> 00:08:43.759 and so how the colony is structured 00:08:43.790 --> 00:08:49.011 depending on their experience and their age, 00:08:49.031 --> 00:08:51.885 and this will allow us to understand for the first time, 00:08:51.895 --> 00:08:53.513 how a colony operates. 00:08:53.533 --> 00:08:55.712 I will show you now 00:08:55.722 --> 00:09:01.552 that when this robot is equipped with a camera, 00:09:01.582 --> 00:09:06.178 you can easily see that they defend their territory. 00:09:06.682 --> 00:09:10.324 The feeling of it going faster although it is the same speed 00:09:10.334 --> 00:09:12.814 is because the camera is on the robot. 00:09:12.921 --> 00:09:16.338 You see, they use their beak - 00:09:16.354 --> 00:09:21.965 this is what causes their heart rate to increase by 16% - 00:09:21.981 --> 00:09:24.401 to attack the robot. 00:09:24.562 --> 00:09:28.160 Sometimes, it was hard to get through, so we just built another one. 00:09:28.170 --> 00:09:33.160 It took us a year because we're pushing the boundaries in miniaturization. 00:09:33.231 --> 00:09:38.821 This new robot being a little smaller will be easier to move through. 00:09:39.154 --> 00:09:45.059 Let's this robot park itself near the biologist who is driving it, 00:09:45.073 --> 00:09:49.065 and let's move on to the closest parent of the King penguin 00:09:49.086 --> 00:09:51.170 that is the Emperor penguin - 00:09:51.187 --> 00:09:56.681 the star of the movie in "March of the Penguins." 00:09:57.512 --> 00:10:02.377 By the way, it is the same colony in Adelie Land where the film was shot. 00:10:03.168 --> 00:10:06.299 There, I encountered a problem. 00:10:06.728 --> 00:10:08.056 Why? 00:10:08.092 --> 00:10:12.709 Because the Emperor penguin - as you may have seen in this movie - NOTE Paragraph 00:10:12.716 --> 00:10:15.989 doesn't try to defend its territory. 00:10:16.322 --> 00:10:18.905 It is an exception in the animal kingdom. 00:10:18.949 --> 00:10:21.725 Most animals, except some species 00:10:21.755 --> 00:10:25.435 which just happen to live in cold regions, 00:10:25.457 --> 00:10:28.187 show a behavior of territorial defense. 00:10:28.346 --> 00:10:32.152 So, what happens is that the Emperor penguins, 00:10:32.162 --> 00:10:35.619 although a lot more powerful than the King penguin, 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:38.180 when they notice the robot approaching, 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:42.238 they recoil because they don't have this territorial defense reflex. 00:10:42.393 --> 00:10:46.542 They do the same thing as the Royal penguins you just saw 00:10:46.552 --> 00:10:50.330 on the outskirts of the colony who moved away when the robot arrived 00:10:50.350 --> 00:10:53.099 but did it because they didn't have any eggs. 00:10:53.791 --> 00:10:56.507 Why don't they defend their territory? 00:10:56.687 --> 00:11:00.145 In winter, they huddle together. 00:11:00.171 --> 00:11:03.176 This is what enables them to fast for four months. 00:11:03.203 --> 00:11:08.551 They halve their speed of emaciation by huddling together. 00:11:09.433 --> 00:11:12.531 And thus - I created some suspense here - 00:11:12.560 --> 00:11:15.698 I'm going to show you the solution we have adopted ... 00:11:15.719 --> 00:11:18.520 (Exclamations of surprise) (Laughter) 00:11:19.917 --> 00:11:24.507 ... by concealing the small robot in a fake chick. 00:11:24.861 --> 00:11:27.648 Now look at the behavior of the adult and the chick. 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:33.082 Not only do they let the robot come close, 00:11:33.100 --> 00:11:37.290 but their movements indicate that they are singing 00:11:37.306 --> 00:11:40.946 to try to communicate with it. 00:11:42.465 --> 00:11:45.294 And this little chick can even be part ... 00:11:45.315 --> 00:11:46.920 (Exclamations) 00:11:46.931 --> 00:11:50.497 ... of a nursery of chicks. 00:11:51.219 --> 00:11:53.208 But we wanted to go further. 00:11:53.227 --> 00:11:56.426 As a matter of fact, in the coldest moments in Adelie Land 00:11:56.446 --> 00:12:00.680 in some colonies, the temperature can go down to 50 °C below zero. 00:12:00.917 --> 00:12:06.173 For the robot to be autonomous enough during that period, 00:12:06.203 --> 00:12:09.660 we'd need batteries that are two times its size. 00:12:10.512 --> 00:12:14.347 And with a little chick, we can only hide a small-sized robot. 00:12:14.512 --> 00:12:18.884 In addition, the artificial little chick can only be used 00:12:18.894 --> 00:12:21.078 when other little chicks are around. 00:12:21.098 --> 00:12:22.478 (Laughter) 00:12:22.494 --> 00:12:25.790 So, I gave myself another challenge: 00:12:25.810 --> 00:12:30.413 the fabrication of a fake adult Emperor penguin. 00:12:30.434 --> 00:12:31.977 (Laughter) 00:12:31.985 --> 00:12:35.862 I had proof that we can fool them, you're witnesses to this. 00:12:36.076 --> 00:12:40.297 But it turned out to be a true technological challenge. 00:12:41.297 --> 00:12:47.053 Making an upright robot wasn't an option for us 00:12:47.076 --> 00:12:50.974 as it would fall over straight away - we have winds of 150 to 200 km/h. 00:12:51.001 --> 00:12:55.570 So the idea was to build a sliding penguin. 00:12:55.591 --> 00:12:58.093 Although you can't hear it, there is a sound ... 00:12:58.113 --> 00:12:59.533 (Slight noise) 00:12:59.573 --> 00:13:03.626 There you go! Listen. It is the sound of the robot sliding on the ice. 00:13:05.012 --> 00:13:09.239 We built a first prototype with a magnificent costume 00:13:09.249 --> 00:13:13.633 made by the best experts in the movie industry - 00:13:13.663 --> 00:13:18.090 here you can see the team of young engineers around me - 00:13:18.116 --> 00:13:21.386 a penguin equipped with crawlers 00:13:21.407 --> 00:13:24.519 since we must move on ice, on the pack ice. 00:13:25.108 --> 00:13:26.747 We sent it to Adelie Land. 00:13:26.758 --> 00:13:28.335 (Laughter) 00:13:28.346 --> 00:13:30.770 Now the results have been mixed 00:13:30.791 --> 00:13:34.677 because, as you can see, it arouses curiosity, interest ... 00:13:34.687 --> 00:13:36.056 (Laughter) 00:13:36.076 --> 00:13:38.568 ... from the unemployed penguins. 00:13:38.584 --> 00:13:40.941 As for the brooders, they are still suspicious. 00:13:40.949 --> 00:13:44.351 We have two possible explanations. 00:13:44.362 --> 00:13:47.320 This magnificent costume, in fact, 00:13:47.330 --> 00:13:51.685 does not reflect the image it should 00:13:51.711 --> 00:13:54.076 because they see through the ultraviolet spectrum. 00:13:54.092 --> 00:13:56.661 Furthermore, the crawlers make too much noise. 00:13:56.917 --> 00:14:01.264 For two years, we have been constructing a new robot 00:14:01.284 --> 00:14:04.427 that will have real feathers - 00:14:04.457 --> 00:14:09.498 we came back with intact corpses from Adelie Land, found in the colony. 00:14:10.790 --> 00:14:15.703 Taxidermists from the museum are currently preparing the skin. 00:14:15.743 --> 00:14:17.438 It will have a real feathering 00:14:17.449 --> 00:14:21.735 that will give a true image in the ultraviolet spectrum. 00:14:22.147 --> 00:14:23.912 It will be able to move its fins. 00:14:23.922 --> 00:14:26.261 It won't have crawlers. 00:14:26.274 --> 00:14:30.284 It will slide on its hull, as you can see here, 00:14:30.305 --> 00:14:34.804 and the noise of the sliding will mask the noise of the wheels that annoys them. 00:14:35.417 --> 00:14:39.461 It will have a speaker because it will communicate with the real penguins. 00:14:40.117 --> 00:14:45.317 You see, while we often oppose technology and Nature, 00:14:45.338 --> 00:14:49.868 here we have an initiative in which technological development 00:14:49.902 --> 00:14:53.684 will allow us to better understand Nature in order to better protect it . 00:14:54.203 --> 00:15:00.753 We are also in the interface between ethics and science 00:15:00.782 --> 00:15:05.987 since it means developing our scientific knowledge 00:15:06.520 --> 00:15:09.428 by reducing the disturbance to animals 00:15:09.438 --> 00:15:12.806 that, as you've seen, also reduces the risks of scientific bias. 00:15:13.203 --> 00:15:15.065 Thank you for listening. 00:15:15.078 --> 00:15:17.145 (Applause)