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Hey everyone.

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Welcome to this video and in this video

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I'm joined by Mr. David Burk

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from the Electron Shop.

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Hey David. How are you doing?

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Hello.

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In this video I want to talk...

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David and I are gonna have a bit of a chat

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and I want to really learn from you David

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about your journey and

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your transition moving your team to Asana.

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Because I know that some companies

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can struggle with the transition

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changing how their teams communicate,

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how they manage their work.

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It's not always easy to make

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that transition so I'm really interested

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to hear your take on

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your experience with that.

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So maybe to kick things off

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you want to give us a bit of

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background context around like

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before you guys were using Asana

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what did your workflow look like?

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Were you using any other tools

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or what were the...

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how did you, tell us the story,

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how did you get into Asana?

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Great question.

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We tried a couple of products actually.

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We tried Teamwork, and we tried Trello,

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and then we decided that Slack was

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working really well for us so we started

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managing everything through Slack.

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But it got to be too much

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and people were randomly

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dashing off assignments

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and I was unsure

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if people could track whether

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they were still in the queue or done.

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So we took a look at Asana

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and in my first review of Asana

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what I liked the most was the flexibility.

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It is really, really flexible.

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That's a plus and a minus, because

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it's a plus because it's really flexible

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it's a minus because

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people tend to go rogue

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and use it their own way.

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Yeah.

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So that's how we chose it.

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Yeah. Go ahead. Let's keep going.

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Yes the flexibility,

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so when you talk about flexibility,

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it's kind of what you mean is there's

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lots of different ways you can use it.

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And one of the things I found is like

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you don't just have to manage tasks in it

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like things you can do.

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You can actually use it to manage clients

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or support tickets from

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a customer service point of view.

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Yeah. I agree it is one of those

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very flexible platforms.

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Yeah. I would say that also

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our project management methodology

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having been in the agency business

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for many years,

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it's very much around just basics

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of getting things done by the end.

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And this idea of having a platform

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that allows you to reduce everything

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to a unit of work

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with a person responsible

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was really what we were after.

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And in your experience the other tools

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that you tried, Trello,

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you mentioned a few others,

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they just didn't quite tick that box

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in terms of making it very clear

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who was responsible for what?

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There were those issues and then

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there were presentation issues.

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The idea that in Asana

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you could look at a list, calendar,

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and use the advanced search,

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and then save the search was just

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unparalleled relative to other products.

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my questions, was there any,

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you mentioned the flexibility,

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but was there any key feature

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that really sold you on it?

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Was the advanced search...

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sounds like one of those?

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Yeah. The advanced search absolutely.

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And regarding the transition,

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moving your team to Asana,

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you've got a little bit of an advantage

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in that you have a smaller team

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which obviously makes the transition

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a bit easier to manage.

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challenges or issues that you faced

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if you want to answer that as well as

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then how did you manage those

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how did you iron out those flaws?

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I think a lot of it is very common

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change management issues.

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broadcasting early and often that

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in 30 days we're changing.

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Every day for those 30 days.

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What are we changing, too.

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We're changing to Asana.

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You might want to check it out.

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Letting people do it on their terms.

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And then, as you know, we hired up,

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and that was really good

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I am fond of saying

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when you're in uncharted territory,

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hire a guide.

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It's worth it. Right?

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Local knowledge is worth a lot.

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So for very effective investment

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basically Paul, you provided us

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with a framework and a methodology.

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I took your framework and methodology

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and then I drafted several documents.

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The two most important of those documents.

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First of all, you trained us,

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we taped that training,

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any new employee that comes in

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watches a one-hour training.

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Mm-huh.

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I did a document called

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Using Asana the Electron Shop Way

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and that covers all the idiosyncrasies

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of how we use it.

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the File Naming System at the Electron Shop

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Every file has prepended a client name

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and has date in a certain format

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but the version number has client's themes

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and then internal rips.

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So 1.1 would be clients of 1.0

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we internally rip to 1.1.

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track the most recent file.

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That's really interesting.

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I want to back up a little

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something you said at the beginning.

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You said you had like this.

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This definitive start date,

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in 30 days, we're using Asana.

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What did you do during the transition

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we using it a little bit

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and it was kind of you were

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trying to pull people into it?

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and why did you choose to do it

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that way instead of just saying

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right, starting today we're doing it?

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Talk me through that a little bit more.

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I got the free version,

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which is wonderful for teams under 15,

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and I pulled people in one by one,

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and I also did demos once a week just

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we were on a production call or something

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and I would say, let me show you something

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I found this interesting thing.

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like you Paul I'm interested in

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productivity and efficiency.

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So I spent a lot of time in the system

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experimenting with my partner. Right?

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assigning tasks to each other

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starting to play

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with all the various systems.

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We figured out sections on our own

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but that was not easy to find.

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Okay. That's really interesting

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because I think from the experiences

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I've had working with different companies

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part of where we've used Asana

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there's been that almost like

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that communication element that

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guys, we're using this in 30 days

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maybe hasn't been so clear

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and it's just like you soft roll it out

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and you start today

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and try and get people using it

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and then when people don't fully adopt it

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because it's new and it's scary

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and it challenges the way they work,

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it fizzles out, and maybe

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the adoption isn't as successful because

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that clear expectation wasn't made.

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you made it very clear.

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Guys, we're using this.

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Get on the train

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because it's leaving soon,

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which sounds like it worked very well.

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That's right, it did.

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putting people in the system

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letting them pool around, and I also said

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starting on this date

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if you send me something via email

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I'm not gonna answer.

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or did you still get a few emails?

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how do we use these things

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How Do We Use Asana the Electron Shop Way.

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Asana is the system of record.

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That's it.

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because that's really important

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and actually you addressed something

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that I think a lot of people

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get hung up about is

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how does this fit in.

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There's so many tools now

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if someone emails me or Slack

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where do I check

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for these points of communication.

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what you've done really well is

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have clear divisions of what goes where.

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You said email is for clients only,

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pretty much external communication?

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Slack it or Asana it,

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can you talk to me,

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do you do all you communication in Asana

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and just informal communication in Slack

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or how do the two work there?

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All communication in Asana

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relevant to tasks.

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what we do is it's a sort of thing like

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can you tell me this number

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or sorry I forgot where this file was

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it's not in Asana

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can you point me at that file?

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That kind of thing.

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It's just for brief checking.

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It's got to be like a 30-second thing.

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My rule is...

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get things down to units of work

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that take two to five minutes.

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Right? Slack is a 30-second tool.

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Mm-hm. That's really good.

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And I think that's

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a really good way to divide it.

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Look, if there's any communication

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that needs to happen about work

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which internally in a team

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that's probably going to be

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the majority of your communication,

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like 80% of your communication?

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So it should live in Asana

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because it's tied to tasks.

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It's tied to things you need to do,

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where Slack is

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the informal quick communication tool

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that you can use to quickly

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get an answer or check in with someone.

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I think that's a really good way,

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really smart way to divide the two so that

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you're not stuck in this transition

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or this blurry area where you're not sure

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did David send me that in Slack

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or did he send me in Asana

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you should just know.

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I think a couple of other things

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about that.

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One is, I said that

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email is for client communication, right?

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external communication.

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If there's a task,

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if the client writes to me,

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which is every day, and they say

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could you please

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change this, do that, fix this typo?

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I take that and I put it in Slack either

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as separate tasks, or one task saying

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please complete fixes and then

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paste the email into Asana sliced.

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Because the key thing about Asana

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that's wonderful is

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it's all about accountability. Right?

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You can't shirk it.

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They're assigned a task,

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and you need to either do it,

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or reassign it, or get it off your plate.

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Yeah. I totally agree with you.

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It's very transparent like

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who's keeping up and maybe because

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you can just click on someone's account

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and see exactly

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how much they've got going on.

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There's no hiding.

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I think some people may even find it

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a little bit scary like

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oh gosh, I need to pick up my game

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because everyone can see what I'm doing.

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Yeah. I think it's very good.

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We have a weekly production meeting

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and that production meeting

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consists of a budget review

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which is done in Harvest.

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Okay.

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There we are in terms of hours

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on various accounts.

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The rest of the meeting is basically

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all incomplete tasks in Asana.

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We go to one by one and also

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I have saved searches for every employee.

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Incomplete tasks for tasks for so-and-so.

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So when I talk to them one on one,

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I can say I see that this one stuck or

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maybe you have too much work to do.

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There's a lot of insight that

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comes from it as well.

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I said it was gonna be one of my questions

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which I think segues quite nicely is

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what are the business problems

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that you've solved with Asana?

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And it sounds like that could be

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one of them where

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as the manager, as a leader

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you can just...

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it's not about calling people out

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and saying you're not doing your job.

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It's about as you've said like

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where are you getting stuck,

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how can I help you, how can I help you

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move these tasks forward?

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And Asana is what provides you

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with that transparency.

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That's right.

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There's a larger issue at play I think

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that's really important.

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And that is engagement,

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employee engagement.

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So, when everybody is updating their tasks

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and nothing is overdue,

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people know that everybody's engaged

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and everybody's doing the business and

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business is as strong as the weakest link.

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Yeah.

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Someone is consistently letting

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their tasks slight past the due date,

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so every week

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on during our production meeting

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I also look at it,

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and even before I start the meeting, I say

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Okay I'm assuming everybody has updated

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the due dates on the tasks.

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Yeah.

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It sends a big message about engagement

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so accountability again is very important

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and in my personal philosophy

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accountability is actually

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a very positive thing for organizations

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because people don't like it

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when someone's sitting around being lazy.

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Yeah. You're totally right.

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As not just the managers

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but the employees as well

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they feel hard done by

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because hey this guy over here

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he's not doing his job

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and I'm working my ass off.

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Yes, that's really interesting.

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Were there any other significant

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business problems that you solved

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with Asana that you can think of?

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Version control on files

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so we insist that

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if you update a version of a file then you

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delete the one that's attached to the task

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and attach the most recent one.

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Right.

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So it's always there.

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That was a big one.

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And I think this idea of

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employee performance

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and resource allocation

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there are many indicators of that

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within the system.

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I would say those were the major problems.

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We are probably

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I'm gonna guess, 20% more efficient

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in productivity because of the system,

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because everybody knows

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what's hanging out there

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and they don't wait around for you

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to tell them to do something.

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There's a whole list. Right?

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Yeah. Go pick something.

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Yeah, that's some 20%

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and that's not a small number either.

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Yeah. Pretty good.

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And do you...

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you've touched on it a bit with

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your client working things but

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what kinds of work do you track in Asana?

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I mean you've obviously

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got the client side

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that's really important in terms of

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your business planning

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and business project

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so working on your business

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rather than in your business.

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Can you talk about

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the different kinds of work

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that you're currently tracking in Asana?

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For internal projects?

451
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Oh, just in general

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like if you have to think about

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or talk us through your projects,

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in both internal and with clients.

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What are the main things that

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you're using Asana for?

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It goes to the framework that we're using

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so let me just talk

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about that for a second.

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I think that the most confusing thing

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in Asana is the word, teams.

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Because there is an organization,

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which is the Electron Shop,

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my company. Right?

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Then we have teams

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and our teams are organized

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around clients.

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We use teams as a client name

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and then we have projects,

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and then we have

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tasks within the projects.

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The reason that Asana is good for us

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is because we're a digital agency,

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we have multidisciplinary tasks going on.

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So how do we organize

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an interdisciplinary team on a project?

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Right?

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The types of projects that we do

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and by the way Paul, when I tell you

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we're gonna try out that templates

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function that just came out.

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Oh, great.

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So that could be a website development,

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could be a weekly email,

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could be an integrated content calendar,

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could be blog posts,

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things to write,

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ads, paid ads.

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Really, we do a very wide range of things

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and again I said Asana is very flexible.

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You can pretty much track anything in it.

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Let's save that in there

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advertising and the right.

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That's really good.

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David, look, thank you so much

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it's been really interesting to learn

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how you're using it

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and the challenges you face.

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Do you have any kind of final

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nuggets of advice

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that you would suggest to anyone watching

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like who's maybe using Asana

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they're just onboarding their team

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at the moment?

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What would be

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your couple of key bits of advice

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to people getting started

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in terms of how they can

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just be more effective with it

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or get their team using it better?

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There are two.

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One, you told me, which is

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turn off email notifications.

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Oh yeah.

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But if you're gonna turn off

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email notifications

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then you have to follow this rule

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Check your inbox every hour on the hour.

519
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Right?

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You cannot forget just let it go.

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The inbox is the key starting point

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to everything.

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When I say that to clients

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when we're working with clients

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and they're adopting the system.

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Check your inbox every hour on the hour.

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They get much better adoption at that.

528
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Yeah. Great tip.

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I think it addresses one of

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the common problems I see people facing

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which is they're not sure

532
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what am I supposed to be doing,

533
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what am I working on right now,

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where is the latest updates,

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and it's that inbox and you can

536
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really create a lot of noise and stress

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for yourself by getting the emails as well

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so definitely turning those off,

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and then archiving those notifications

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once you're done with them.

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So your inbox is... really

542
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it only contains or should only contain

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the active work in progress

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like comments that you're still working on

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or obviously new notifications as well.

546
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Great, thanks for the tip, David.

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Thanks for having me.