0:00:03.570,0:00:06.570 Pravednost Michael Sandel 0:00:06.510,0:00:11.850 Ima li život cijenu? 0:00:32.850,0:00:35.290 Prošli puta diskutirali smo o[br]slučaju Karljica protiv Dudleya i Stephensa, 0:00:35.290,0:00:39.400 0:00:39.400,0:00:45.970 slučaj u čamcu za spasavanje,[br]slučaj kanibalizma na moru, 0:00:45.970,0:00:48.420 i s imajući na umu argumente[br]slučaja čamca za spasavanje, 0:00:48.420,0:00:49.369 0:00:49.369,0:00:53.750 argumente za i protiv onoga[br]što su učinili Dudley i Stephens, 0:00:53.750,0:00:56.890 0:00:56.890,0:00:58.480 vratimo se na utilitarističku filozofiju[br]Jeremya Benthama. 0:00:58.480,0:01:02.059 0:01:02.060,0:01:06.130 Bentham je rođen u Engleskoj 1748., 0:01:06.130,0:01:09.740 sa 12 godina pohađao je Oxford,[br]sa 15 se upisao na pravni fakultet. 0:01:09.740,0:01:15.060 Sa 19 primljen je u Odvjetničku komoru,[br]ali nikada se nije bavio pravom, 0:01:15.060,0:01:17.470 umjesto toga posvetio je život[br]filozofiji prava i filozofiji morala. 0:01:17.470,0:01:19.920 0:01:19.920,0:01:22.170 0:01:22.170,0:01:27.690 Prošli puta počeli smo razmatrati[br]Benthamovu verziju utilitarizma. 0:01:27.690,0:01:28.810 Glavna ideja, sažeto sročena,[br]je ova: 0:01:28.810,0:01:32.870 najviši princip morala,[br]bilo osobnog ili političkog morala, 0:01:32.870,0:01:35.750 0:01:35.750,0:01:38.909 0:01:38.909,0:01:40.260 je maksimiziranje općeg dobra 0:01:40.260,0:01:42.520 0:01:42.520,0:01:44.390 0:01:44.390,0:01:46.560 ili kolektivne sreće, 0:01:46.560,0:01:50.070 ili ukupne ravnotežu zadovoljstva i boli 0:01:50.070,0:01:52.210 u izrazu maksimizirane korisnosti. 0:01:52.210,0:01:53.210 0:01:53.210,0:01:56.419 0:01:56.420,0:02:00.750 Bentham dolazi do tog principa[br]rasuđujući na sljedeći način: 0:02:00.750,0:02:03.150 svima nama upravljaju bol i zadovoljstvo, 0:02:03.150,0:02:09.009 oni su naši suvereni gospodari,[br]pa ih svaki moralni sistem mora uzeti u obzir. 0:02:09.008,0:02:10.999 Kako ih najbolje uzeti u obzir? 0:02:10.999,0:02:14.209 Maksimiziranjem 0:02:14.209,0:02:15.739 i to vodi principu[br]'najvećeg dobra za najveći broj'. 0:02:15.739,0:02:19.449 0:02:19.449,0:02:23.029 Što bismo točno trebali maksimizirati? 0:02:23.029,0:02:24.698 Bentham nam govori - sreću 0:02:24.699,0:02:25.510 0:02:25.510,0:02:27.728 ili, preciznije, korisnost. 0:02:27.729,0:02:29.479 0:02:29.479,0:02:34.239 Maksimiziranje korisnosti nije najvažnije[br]samo za pojedince, već i za zajednice 0:02:34.239,0:02:36.569 i zakonodavce. 0:02:36.569,0:02:38.749 Na koncu, što je zajednica?[br]- pita Bentham. 0:02:38.749,0:02:41.359 0:02:41.359,0:02:45.309 To je suma pojedinaca koji ju sačinjavaju. 0:02:45.309,0:02:46.780 I zbog toga, u odlučivanju o najboljim politikama[br]i što bi trebao biti zakon, 0:02:46.780,0:02:53.370 u odlučivanju što je pravedno, 0:02:53.370,0:02:59.029 građani i zakonodavci bi se trebali[br]zapitati: 0:02:59.029,0:03:03.870 Ako zbrojimo sve korisnosti ove politike 0:03:03.870,0:03:05.290 i oduzmemo sve troškove, 0:03:05.290,0:03:08.828 0:03:08.829,0:03:10.669 ispravna stvar koju treba učiniti[br]je ona 0:03:10.669,0:03:11.779 0:03:11.779,0:03:13.439 koja maksimizira ravnotežu[br]sreće nad patnjom. 0:03:13.439,0:03:14.698 0:03:14.699,0:03:16.020 0:03:16.020,0:03:20.869 0:03:20.869,0:03:24.039 To znači maksimizirati korisnost. 0:03:24.039,0:03:24.988 Danas želim ustanoviti da li se vi[br]slažete s tim ili ne. 0:03:24.989,0:03:28.189 0:03:28.189,0:03:31.150 0:03:31.150,0:03:36.650 A ta utilitarna logika često dolazi[br]pod nazivom analiza troškova i koristi 0:03:36.650,0:03:39.719 koju koriste kompanije i vlade[br]cijelo vrijeme. 0:03:39.719,0:03:41.219 0:03:41.219,0:03:41.978 0:03:41.979,0:03:43.729 0:03:43.729,0:03:45.239 0:03:45.239,0:03:50.789 A ono što ona uključuje je[br]pridjeljivanje vrijednosti, 0:03:50.789,0:03:53.289 obično dolarske vrijednosti, [br]za korisnost 0:03:53.289,0:03:56.539 troškova i koristi[br]u vezi raznih prijedloga. 0:03:56.539,0:03:58.879 Nedavno je u Republici Češkoj 0:03:58.879,0:04:03.370 predstavljen prijedlog za povećanje [br]poreza na trošarinu za pušenje. 0:04:03.370,0:04:05.089 Philip Morris, duhanska kompanija, 0:04:05.089,0:04:08.219 0:04:08.219,0:04:09.779 ostvaruje veliku dobit[br]u Republici Češkoj. 0:04:09.779,0:04:12.509 Oni su naručili studiju analize[br]troškova i koristi 0:04:12.509,0:04:15.429 pušenja u Republici Češkoj. 0:04:15.430,0:04:16.789 0:04:16.789,0:04:18.678 0:04:18.678,0:04:20.899 I ono što je ustanovila ta studija[br]analize troškova i koristi, 0:04:20.899,0:04:22.830 0:04:22.830,0:04:23.550 0:04:23.550,0:04:25.660 je da vlada ostvaruje dobit[br]zahvaljujući pušenju čeških građana. 0:04:25.660,0:04:27.349 0:04:27.349,0:04:30.779 0:04:30.779,0:04:32.360 Pa, kako ostvaruju dobit? 0:04:32.360,0:04:36.189 Istina je da postoje negativni učinci[br]za financije češke vlade, 0:04:36.189,0:04:40.000 0:04:40.000,0:04:45.039 zbog povećanih troškova zdravstva[br]za ljude koji pate od bolesti povezanih s pušenjem, 0:04:45.039,0:04:47.239 0:04:47.239,0:04:50.369 s druge strane postoje pozitivni učinci, 0:04:50.369,0:04:51.620 0:04:51.620,0:04:53.099 a to su, pribrojeni na drugoj strani bilance, 0:04:53.099,0:04:55.378 0:04:55.379,0:05:01.960 pozitivni učinci su uključivali, [br]najvećim dijelom, 0:05:01.960,0:05:06.239 razne porezne prihode koje vlada[br]ostvaruje od prodaje cigareta, 0:05:06.240,0:05:09.530 no također su uključivali uštede[br]u zdravstvu kad ljudi umiru ranije, 0:05:09.530,0:05:13.339 uštede na penzijama - ne morate plaćati[br]penzije tako dugo - 0:05:13.339,0:05:14.889 i također uštede u domovima za starije. 0:05:14.889,0:05:19.679 0:05:19.679,0:05:24.539 I kad su bili sumirani svi troškovi i koristi, 0:05:24.539,0:05:25.969 studija Philip Morrisa je ustanovila 0:05:25.969,0:05:27.870 0:05:27.870,0:05:32.610 da je neto dobit javnih financija[br]u Republici Češkoj 0:05:32.610,0:05:36.449 147 milijuna dolara, 0:05:36.449,0:05:38.120 a u odnosu na uštede u smještaju[br]i zdravstvenoj skrbi i troškovima za mirovine 0:05:38.120,0:05:41.479 vlada je uštedila preko 1200 dolara za[br]svaku osobu koja prerano umre zbog pušenja. 0:05:41.479,0:05:46.570 0:05:46.570,0:05:52.569 0:05:52.569,0:05:56.740 Analiza troškova i koristi. 0:05:56.740,0:06:01.729 Oni od vas koji brane utilitarizam[br]mogli bi pomisliti da ovaj test nije fer. 0:06:01.729,0:06:03.389 0:06:03.389,0:06:09.130 Philip Morris je bio razapet u štampi[br]i objavio je ispriku za ovu bezdušnu kalkulaciju. 0:06:09.130,0:06:10.990 0:06:10.990,0:06:12.319 Mogli biste reći da je ono što[br]ovdje nedostaje 0:06:12.319,0:06:17.119 nešto što utilitaristi mogu lako[br]ugraditi, napose 0:06:17.119,0:06:19.339 0:06:19.339,0:06:23.430 vrijednost za osobu i obitelji[br]onih koji umiru od raka pluća. 0:06:23.430,0:06:25.599 0:06:25.599,0:06:29.190 A što je sa vrijednošću života? 0:06:29.190,0:06:33.099 Neke analize troškova i koristi[br]sadržavaju mjeru za vrijednost života. 0:06:33.099,0:06:34.560 0:06:34.560,0:06:36.809 0:06:36.809,0:06:41.330 Jedna od najpoznatijih je slučaj [br]Ford Pinto automobila. 0:06:41.330,0:06:45.008 Je li itko čitao o tome?[br]To je bilo 1970.-tih. 0:06:45.009,0:06:48.210 Sjećate se da je Ford Pinto[br]bio marka automobila? 0:06:48.210,0:06:51.029 Itko? 0:06:51.029,0:06:55.879 To je bio mali auto, kompakt klase,[br]vrlo popularan, 0:06:55.879,0:06:58.059 ali imao je jedan problem, a to je[br]da je rezervoar za gorivo bio straga 0:06:58.059,0:07:01.959 0:07:01.959,0:07:07.960 i kod udarca u stražnji dio [br]rezervoar bi eksplodirao 0:07:07.960,0:07:10.210 i neki ljudi su poginuli,[br]a neki ozbiljno povrijeđeni. 0:07:10.210,0:07:14.349 0:07:14.349,0:07:18.998 Žrtve tih nesreća tužile su Ford, 0:07:18.999,0:07:21.669 a na suđenju se ispostavilo 0:07:21.669,0:07:24.030 da je Ford odavno znao[br]za riskantnost rezervoara za gorivo 0:07:24.030,0:07:25.248 0:07:25.249,0:07:27.719 0:07:27.719,0:07:33.599 i da je napravio analizu troškova i dobiti[br]kako bi ustanovio da li bi se isplatilo 0:07:33.599,0:07:36.300 ugraditi posebni štit 0:07:36.300,0:07:40.490 koji bi zaštito rezervoar[br]i spriječio da eksplodira. 0:07:40.490,0:07:42.979 Napravilu su analizu troškova i koristi; 0:07:42.979,0:07:46.318 cijena po komadu za povećanje[br]sigurnosti Pinta 0:07:46.319,0:07:48.239 0:07:48.239,0:07:50.299 0:07:50.299,0:07:55.688 izračunali su da iznosti 11 dolara[br]po komadu. 0:07:55.689,0:07:57.189 0:07:57.189,0:08:00.609 A ovo je analiza troškova i koristi[br]koja se pojavila na suđenju, 0:08:00.609,0:08:03.089 0:08:03.089,0:08:05.960 11 dolara po komadu[br]za 12,5 milijuna automobila i kamiona 0:08:05.960,0:08:09.998 iznosi ukupno 137 milijuna dolara[br]za povećanje sigurnosti. 0:08:09.999,0:08:13.559 0:08:13.370,0:08:17.370 0:08:17.370,0:08:18.789 A onda su izračunali koristi od ulaganja[br]tog novca u sigurniji auto. 0:08:18.789,0:08:20.139 0:08:20.139,0:08:23.300 0:08:23.300,0:08:26.800 Prebrojali su 180 smrti[br]i pridijelili dolarsku vrijednost: 0:08:26.800,0:08:28.749 200 tisuća dolara po jednoj smrti. 0:08:28.749,0:08:30.449 0:08:30.449,0:08:32.490 0:08:32.490,0:08:35.250 180 povreda - 67 tisuća dolara; 0:08:35.250,0:08:37.490 0:08:37.490,0:08:38.909 i onda troškovi popravka i zamjene[br]za 2000 vozila, 0:08:38.909,0:08:43.289 koji bi bili uništeni bez tog zaštitnog dijela, 0:08:43.289,0:08:45.030 700 dolara po vozilu. 0:08:45.030,0:08:48.060 0:08:48.060,0:08:50.390 Tako se pokazalo da bi koristi[br]iznosile samo 49,5 milijuna 0:08:50.390,0:08:53.930 0:08:53.930,0:08:55.270 i stoga nisu ugradili tu zaštitu. 0:08:55.270,0:08:56.329 0:08:56.330,0:08:58.140 0:08:58.140,0:08:59.840 Nepotrebno je napominjati 0:08:59.840,0:09:01.740 da kad se taj memo o analizi troškova i koristi[br]kompanije Ford Motor Company 0:09:01.160,0:09:09.160 pojavio na suđenju, 0:09:09.160,0:09:11.250 zapanjio je porotnike,[br]koji su dosudili goleme odštete. 0:09:11.250,0:09:15.950 0:09:15.950,0:09:21.810 Je li to protuprimjer za [br]utilitarističku ideju izračuna? 0:09:21.810,0:09:23.040 Jer Ford je uključio mjeru[br]za vrijednost života. 0:09:23.040,0:09:27.319 0:09:27.320,0:09:30.770 Tko bi od vas želio braniti[br]analizu troškova i koristi 0:09:30.770,0:09:33.240 u ovom očitom protuprimjeru? 0:09:33.240,0:09:35.320 0:09:35.320,0:09:38.720 Tko ima obranu? 0:09:38.720,0:09:41.590 Ili mislite da to u potpunosti ruši[br]cijeli utiilitaristički račun? 0:09:41.590,0:09:47.410 0:09:47.410,0:09:48.760 Ja mislim da su opet napravili isti grešku[br]kao u prethodnom slučaju 0:09:48.760,0:09:53.210 pridijelivši dolarsku vrijednost ljudskom životu[br]ne uzimajući u obzir stvari poput 0:09:53.210,0:09:56.570 0:09:56.570,0:10:00.580 patnje i emocionalnih gubitaka obitelji, 0:10:00.580,0:10:03.980 koje su izgubile prihode, ali i svoje voljene, 0:10:03.980,0:10:06.820 a to vrijedi više od 200 tisuća dolara. 0:10:06.820,0:10:09.170 Čekajte, kako se vi zovete? 0:10:09.170,0:10:10.479 Julie Roto. 0:10:10.480,0:10:14.400 Pa, Julie, ako 200 tisuća preniska cifra 0:10:14.400,0:10:18.660 jer ne uključuje gubitak voljenih[br]i gubitak svih tih godina života, 0:10:18.660,0:10:21.660 0:10:21.660,0:10:23.980 što mislite, koji bi broj bio točniji? 0:10:23.980,0:10:27.290 0:10:27.290,0:10:32.430 Ne vjerujem da mogu dati broj, 0:10:32.430,0:10:33.560 mislim da se taka vrsta analize ne bi smjela[br]koristiti u pitanjima ljudskog života. 0:10:33.560,0:10:36.199 Mislim da se to ne može izraziti novčano. 0:10:36.200,0:10:39.270 Dakle, oni ne samo da su stavili[br]premalu brojku, 0:10:39.270,0:10:44.510 kaže Julie, nego su pogriješili[br]uopće stavljajući bilo koji broj. 0:10:44.510,0:10:49.540 U redu, da čujemo nekoga tko ... 0:10:49.540,0:10:51.860 Morate uzeti u obzir inflaciju? 0:10:57.700,0:10:59.130 U redu, pošteno. 0:10:59.130,0:11:00.050 0:11:00.050,0:11:02.660 Pa koji bi to onda broj sada bio? 0:11:02.660,0:11:07.640 To je bilo prije 35 godina. 0:11:07.640,0:11:10.330 Dva milijuna dolara? 0:11:10.330,0:11:12.030 Vi bi stavili dva milijuna? 0:11:12.030,0:11:14.079 A kako se vi zovete? 0:11:14.080,0:11:15.410 Voicheck. 0:11:15.410,0:11:17.329 Voicheck kaže, moramo[br]uzeti u obzir inflaciju 0:11:17.330,0:11:19.640 Trebali bi biti velikodušniji. 0:11:19.640,0:11:25.170 Bi li tada smatrali da je ovo ispravan način[br]razmišljanja o tom pitanju? 0:11:25.170,0:11:27.310 Pretpostavljam, nažalost tu negdje[br]treba staviti broj, 0:11:27.310,0:11:29.589 nisam siguran koji bi to broj bio,[br]ali se slažem da bi se mogao staviti broj 0:11:29.590,0:11:32.980 na ljudski život. 0:11:32.980,0:11:37.330 0:11:37.330,0:11:39.490 0:11:39.490,0:11:41.060 0:11:41.060,0:11:42.439 U redu. Dakle Voicheck kaže, 0:11:42.440,0:11:44.420 0:11:44.420,0:11:46.280 i tu se ne slaže s Julie, ... 0:11:46.280,0:11:46.649 0:11:46.649,0:11:49.750 Julie kaže, ne možemo staviti broj na[br]ljudski život u svrhu analize troškova i koristi. 0:11:49.750,0:11:53.670 Voicheck kaže - moramo[br]jer moramo donositi odluke, nekako. 0:11:53.670,0:11:59.870 0:11:59.870,0:12:04.750 Što drugi misle o tome? 0:12:04.750,0:12:06.270 Je li itko ovdje spreman braniti analizu[br]troškova i koristi? 0:12:06.270,0:12:09.810 Kao točnu i poželjnu? 0:12:09.810,0:12:16.000 Ja mislim kad Ford i druge auto kompanije[br]ne bi koristile analizu troškova i koristi 0:12:16.000,0:12:18.949 na koncu bi propale jer ne bi mogle[br]biti profitabilne 0:12:18.949,0:12:23.139 i milijuni ljudi ne bi mogli koristiti[br]njihove aute za odlazak na posao 0:12:23.139,0:12:27.939 kako bi prehranili svoju djecu. 0:12:27.939,0:12:29.699 Zato mislim da ako se ne [br]koristi analiza troškova i dobiti 0:12:29.700,0:12:31.870 žrtvuje se opće dobro u tom slučaju. 0:12:31.870,0:12:34.810 Dobro, da vas pitam[br]kako se zovete? 0:12:34.810,0:12:37.599 Raul. 0:12:37.600,0:12:41.760 Raul, nedavno je provedena studija[br]o upotrebi mobitela u autu za vrijeme vožnje 0:12:41.760,0:12:43.090 0:12:43.090,0:12:47.080 i vodi se diskusija o tome[br]treba li to zabraniti 0:12:47.080,0:12:48.660 0:12:48.660,0:12:50.689 Procjena je da oko 2000 ljudi[br]umire u nesrećama svake godine 0:12:50.690,0:12:54.990 zbog korištenja mobitela. 0:12:54.990,0:12:57.280 0:12:57.280,0:12:59.240 0:12:59.240,0:13:02.120 0:13:02.120,0:13:07.860 a ipak analiza troškova i koristi koju je[br]napravio Centar za analizu rizika na Harvardu 0:13:07.860,0:13:10.520 ustanovila je da ako pogledate [br]prednosti korištenja mobitela 0:13:10.520,0:13:13.560 0:13:13.560,0:13:15.089 i procijenite vrijednost života,[br]dođe skoro na isto 0:13:15.090,0:13:19.050 0:13:19.050,0:13:23.290 zbog goleme ekonomske korisnosti[br]omogućavanja ljudima da iskoriste vrijeme, 0:13:23.290,0:13:27.370 da ne gube vrijeme, da mogu ugovarati poslove[br]i razgovarati s prijateljima i tako dalje 0:13:27.370,0:13:30.370 za vrijeme vožnje. 0:13:30.370,0:13:32.060 Ne sugerira li to da je pogrešno[br]ljudski život vrednovati novčanim iznosima? 0:13:32.060,0:13:35.619 0:13:35.620,0:13:37.590 0:13:37.590,0:13:39.330 Pa, ja mislim da ako velika većina ljudi 0:13:39.330,0:13:41.780 0:13:41.780,0:13:47.569 pokušava izvući maksimum korisnosti[br]iz usluge kao što je upotreba mobitela 0:13:47.570,0:13:47.989 i pogodnosti koju pružaju mobiteli, 0:13:47.989,0:13:50.400 tada je žrtva nužna 0:13:50.400,0:13:52.160 da bi ljudi bili zadovoljni. 0:13:52.160,0:13:53.230 0:13:53.230,0:13:59.200 Vi ste otvoreno utilitarista. 0:13:59.200,0:14:02.820 Da. 0:14:02.820,0:14:05.810 Zadnje pitanje Raul, 0:14:05.810,0:14:07.829 a postavio sam ga i Voichecku. 0:14:07.829,0:14:12.870 Koliko bi morala biti cijena ljudskog života[br]u dolarima da bi se zabranilo korištenje mobitela? 0:14:12.870,0:14:14.640 Ne želim proizvoljno računati brojke[br]ovoga časa... 0:14:14.640,0:14:16.199 0:14:16.200,0:14:18.140 0:14:18.140,0:14:19.370 0:14:21.350,0:14:23.610 Želite li to uzeti u razmatranje? 0:14:23.610,0:14:24.790 Da, uzet ću to ... 0:14:24.790,0:14:28.689 Ali ugrubo koliko bi to bilo?[br]Imate 2300 smrti, 0:14:28.690,0:14:32.400 morate odrediti dolarsku vrijednost[br]da biste znali želite li spriječiti te smrti 0:14:32.400,0:14:37.069 zabranom upotrebe mobitela u autima. 0:14:37.070,0:14:38.900 Pa, koje bi bilo vaše nagađanje? 0:14:38.900,0:14:40.350 Koliko? 0:14:40.350,0:14:40.799 Milijun, dva milijuna? 0:14:40.799,0:14:42.280 0:14:42.280,0:14:44.410 Dva milijuna je bila Voitechova cifra. 0:14:44.410,0:14:46.120 Je li to otprilike točno? 0:14:46.120,0:14:50.500 Možda milijun. 0:14:50.500,0:14:55.110 Milijun?! 0:14:55.110,0:15:00.440 Dobro je, hvala. 0:15:00.440,0:15:01.859 To su neke kontraverze koje proizlaze[br]iz analize troškova i koristi, 0:15:01.859,0:15:06.770 posebno one koje uključuju pridjeljivanje[br]dolarske vrijednosti svemu što ulazi u zbroj. 0:15:06.770,0:15:08.840 Sada bih se želio okrenuti vašim prigovorima, 0:15:08.840,0:15:15.110 vašim prigovorima ne nužno na[br]analizu troškova i koristi izričito, 0:15:15.110,0:15:18.400 jer to je samo jedna verzija[br]utilitarističke logike u današnjoj praksi, 0:15:18.400,0:15:21.959 0:15:21.960,0:15:26.830 nego na teoriju u cjelini, 0:15:26.830,0:15:30.000 ideji da je ispravni postupak, 0:15:30.000,0:15:33.710 pravedna osnova za politiku i zakon, 0:15:33.710,0:15:35.559 maksimiziranje korisnosti. 0:15:35.559,0:15:39.750 0:15:39.750,0:15:41.590 Koliko vas se ne slaže[br]s utilitarističkim pristupom 0:15:41.590,0:15:43.359 0:15:43.359,0:15:44.330 0:15:44.330,0:15:46.390 zakonu i općem dobru? 0:15:46.390,0:15:48.480 0:15:48.480,0:15:52.230 Koliko vas se slaže? 0:15:52.230,0:15:55.200 Dakle više vas je koji se slažu[br]ngo onih koji se ne slažu. 0:15:55.200,0:15:59.560 Pa da čujemo kritičare. 0:15:59.560,0:16:02.209 Moj glavni problem s tim je da mi se čini[br]da ne možete reći ... 0:16:02.209,0:16:06.280 samo zato što je netko u manjini,[br]da su njegove želje i potrebe manje vrijedne 0:16:06.280,0:16:11.650 nego onih koji su u većini. 0:16:11.650,0:16:14.189 Pretpostavljam da imam problem [br]s idejom da je 0:16:14.190,0:16:16.099 'najveće dobro za najveći broj' u redu[br]jer što je onda s ljudima kojih je manji broj, 0:16:16.099,0:16:18.070 0:16:18.070,0:16:21.040 0:16:21.040,0:16:24.719 To nije fer prema njima jer nemaju[br]pravo glasa o tome što oni žele. 0:16:24.720,0:16:25.840 0:16:25.840,0:16:28.880 To je zanimljiv prigovor, vi brinete[br]o učinku na manjinu? 0:16:28.880,0:16:32.460 Da. 0:16:32.460,0:16:34.940 Usput, kako se zovete? 0:16:34.940,0:16:39.819 Anna. 0:16:39.819,0:16:41.689 Tko ima odgovor na Anninu brigu[br]za učinak na manjinu? 0:16:41.690,0:16:42.540 Što kažete Anni? 0:16:42.540,0:16:47.490 Ona kaže da manjine vrijede manje.[br]Ja mislim da to nije slučaj 0:16:47.490,0:16:51.339 jer pojedinci u manjini vrijede[br]sasvim jednako kao pojedinci u većini. 0:16:51.339,0:16:54.520 Samo je stvar u tome da brojevi[br]prevladavaju manjinu. 0:16:54.520,0:16:55.670 0:16:55.670,0:16:58.919 U određenom trenutku morate donijeti odluku, 0:16:58.919,0:17:01.510 žao mi je manjine, ali ponekad[br]je to za veće dobro. 0:17:01.510,0:17:02.640 0:17:02.640,0:17:03.670 0:17:03.670,0:17:08.839 Za veće dobro. Anna, što vi kažete?[br]Vaše ime? 0:17:08.839,0:17:10.839 Youngda. 0:17:10.839,0:17:13.589 Youngda kaže morate samo zbrojiti[br]preferencije ljudi, 0:17:13.589,0:17:17.698 a oni preferencije onih u manjini[br]zaista se mjere. 0:17:17.699,0:17:22.000 Možete li dati neki primjer[br]za ono što vas brine 0:17:22.000,0:17:24.880 kad kažete da ste zabrinuti 0:17:24.880,0:17:27.970 0:17:27.970,0:17:29.730 0:17:29.730,0:17:35.179 0:17:35.179,0:17:36.450 0:17:36.450,0:17:39.700 0:17:39.700,0:17:39.980 0:17:39.980,0:17:43.560 0:17:43.560,0:17:44.710 0:17:44.710,0:17:45.980 0:17:48.120,0:17:50.610 0:17:50.610,0:17:53.459 0:17:53.460,0:17:54.870 0:17:54.870,0:17:58.449 0:17:58.450,0:17:59.680 0:17:59.680,0:18:01.849 0:18:01.849,0:18:03.290 0:18:03.290,0:18:05.740 0:18:05.740,0:18:07.850 0:18:07.850,0:18:12.550 0:18:12.550,0:18:14.399 0:18:14.400,0:18:16.520 0:18:16.520,0:18:18.210 0:18:18.210,0:18:21.990 0:18:21.990,0:18:24.550 0:18:24.550,0:18:29.510 0:18:29.510,0:18:33.890 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