1 00:00:07,777 --> 00:00:12,383 Elizabeth Murray: "Bop" 2 00:00:22,300 --> 00:00:26,369 If I keep looking at it, I'll have to go back and start working again. [LAUGHS] 3 00:00:32,019 --> 00:00:37,103 What I'm looking for is resolution. I have it one day and I don't have it the next day. 4 00:00:37,103 --> 00:00:43,636 But, that's why being an artist is so great because you can get that kind of satisfaction. 5 00:00:43,636 --> 00:00:49,185 The thing that has been hard about these paintings, is that I don't know how I'm gonna get them resolved. 6 00:00:52,319 --> 00:00:57,203 I thought, when I did the drawings for this painting, I was very excited. 7 00:00:57,203 --> 00:01:00,619 They looked really great to me. And then I blew it up, 8 00:01:00,619 --> 00:01:09,236 And the guys who make these forms for me put it together, made it, and it came back into the studio. 9 00:01:09,236 --> 00:01:13,702 And, you know, the minute I saw it, I just didn't see how it was going to go together at all. 10 00:01:13,702 --> 00:01:16,986 Even before I touched it. Just the way the forms were working. 11 00:01:16,986 --> 00:01:20,170 I just thought: "What was I thinking of! This is gonna be horrible." 12 00:01:20,170 --> 00:01:25,124 And it was really, really a long journey with this painting. 13 00:01:25,124 --> 00:01:31,532 The colors I thought I was going to use, none of them worked in the beginning. 14 00:01:31,532 --> 00:01:33,935 But that's nothing new. 15 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,269 The whole painting was painful. 16 00:01:40,935 --> 00:01:50,123 Usually, what happens is when I start to really hate it, it starts to go someplace. 17 00:01:50,123 --> 00:01:52,686 But it's almost as though you have to get down into that place where 18 00:01:52,686 --> 00:01:57,970 You absolutely hate it and want to rip it off the wall, rip it to pieces, and throw it out, 19 00:01:57,970 --> 00:02:07,387 To start getting into it. It's very strange. 20 00:02:11,343 --> 00:02:16,668 For instance, that particular bloopy shape with the spinal column that goes through it, 21 00:02:16,668 --> 00:02:20,285 I wanted something through the center, it needed something in the middle, 22 00:02:20,285 --> 00:02:25,371 That was going off-center in the form. I had a zig-zaggy line for a while. 23 00:02:25,371 --> 00:02:29,881 And for a while, I liked it, and then one day, I came in here and I said, "No." 24 00:02:32,862 --> 00:02:40,400 The spinal column ended up being a kind of way to get through the shape and into the next shape. 25 00:02:47,966 --> 00:02:51,803 The resolution has to happen without anybody seeing it, not even me. 26 00:02:51,803 --> 00:02:54,871 But I know that it's there. I feel that it's there. 27 00:02:54,871 --> 00:02:59,538 There's a moment when I start to feel it with this painting. And I don't think I could describe it 28 00:02:59,538 --> 00:03:04,370 But I do feel...I feel that with it because I can stop it. 29 00:03:04,379 --> 00:03:11,960 When I look at it, instead of it being this battle, this conflict that I have to try to pull together, 30 00:03:12,495 --> 00:03:16,207 I can look at it, peacefully. 31 00:03:16,672 --> 00:03:17,515 [ART HANDLER 1] Ok, lift for the blocks. 32 00:03:18,354 --> 00:03:19,341 [ART HANDLER 2] Where are the blocks? 33 00:03:22,219 --> 00:03:25,311 [ART HANDLER 1] Come on Steve, we need a block man! 34 00:03:27,111 --> 00:03:28,775 [ART HANDLER 1] No, not on the chicken head. [ALL LAUGH] 35 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:39,329 When it feels right, it's such a natural thing, when it feels right, 36 00:03:39,329 --> 00:03:43,112 When you realize that something really is completed.