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I keep looking at it, I have to go back and start working again.

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What I'm looking for is resolution. I have it one day and I don't have it the next day.

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That's why being an artist is so great because you can get that kind of satisfaction.

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The thing that has been hard about these paintings, is I don't know how I'm gonna get them resolved.

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I thought, when I did the drawings for this painting, I was very excited.

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They looked really great to me. And then I blew it up,

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And the guys who make these forms for me put it together, made it, and it came back to the studio.

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And, you know, the minute I saw it, I just didn't see how it was gonna go together at all.

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Even before I touched it. Just the way the forms were working.

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"What was I thinking of! This is gonna be horrible."

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And it was really, really a long journey with this painting.

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The colors I thought I thought I was going to use, none of them worked in the beginning.

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But that's nothing new.

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The whole painting was painful.

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Usually, what happens is when I start to really hate it, it starts to go someplace.

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It's almost as though you have to get down into that place where

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You absolutely hate it and want to rip it off the wall and throw it out,

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To start getting into it. It's very strange.

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For instance, that particular blue-pie shape with the spinal column going through it,

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I wanted something through the center, it needed something in the middle,

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That was going off-center in the form. I had a zig-zaggy line for a while.

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For a while, I liked it, and then I came in one day, and I said, "No."

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The spinal column ended up being a kind of way to get through the shape into the next shape.

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The resolution has to happen without anybody seeing it, not even me.

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But I know that it's there. I feel that it's there.

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There's a moment when I start to feel it with this painting. And I don't think I can describe it

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But I feel that with it because I can stop it.

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When I look at it, instead of being this battle, this conflict that I have to pull together,

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I can look at it peacefully.

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[Man] Lift for the blocks. Come on Steve, put the block man.

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[Man] No, not on the chicken head.

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When it feels right, it is such a natural thing, when you realize that something really is completed.