WEBVTT 00:00:01.700 --> 00:00:03.162 (Half bell) 00:00:09.152 --> 00:00:13.745 (Bell) 00:00:30.043 --> 00:00:32.945 Dear Thay, dear Sangha, 00:00:34.356 --> 00:00:37.205 I suffer a lot from my father... 00:00:40.054 --> 00:00:41.418 He is... 00:00:43.398 --> 00:00:45.447 It is difficult for me... 00:00:49.565 --> 00:00:51.315 to see him...and... 00:00:52.794 --> 00:00:55.116 it has almost become dangerous. 00:00:56.443 --> 00:00:59.271 I don't want to see him anymore 00:00:59.597 --> 00:01:03.505 and I have given him several chances to change 00:01:05.139 --> 00:01:09.039 I have been forcing myself to go 00:01:10.249 --> 00:01:11.589 now I can't. 00:01:13.275 --> 00:01:14.825 And my question is: 00:01:17.624 --> 00:01:20.190 Do I still have to try and change him, 00:01:21.783 --> 00:01:23.786 and try to go to him 00:01:25.751 --> 00:01:28.316 even though it is making me very tired? 00:01:38.089 --> 00:01:40.510 Dear Thay, our friend said that 00:01:40.510 --> 00:01:43.337 he has a lot of difficulties with his father. 00:01:45.178 --> 00:01:48.777 It has been very difficult for him to see his father 00:01:48.777 --> 00:01:52.027 and he feels that it has even become dangerous 00:01:52.854 --> 00:01:55.859 and he has tried to force himself to go 00:01:55.867 --> 00:01:58.780 to give his father many chances to change, 00:01:58.780 --> 00:02:00.263 to transform, 00:02:00.263 --> 00:02:03.667 but he feels that it has not been successful. 00:02:03.667 --> 00:02:08.256 He feels that he cannot force himself to go anymore, 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:13.444 but he is asking Thay if he should to continue to try 00:02:15.020 --> 00:02:18.158 to bring his father to transform, to change, 00:02:20.444 --> 00:02:25.310 to push himself to try to help his father to change 00:02:29.657 --> 00:02:33.491 In order to find the right answer, 00:02:33.491 --> 00:02:35.607 we have to look first, 00:02:36.404 --> 00:02:38.193 look more deeply, 00:02:39.027 --> 00:02:44.132 to see the relationship between us and the other person, 00:02:47.758 --> 00:02:51.434 whether you are son and father, 00:02:53.236 --> 00:02:55.839 or whether you are daughter and mother, 00:02:57.641 --> 00:03:00.472 or you are partner and partner. 00:03:00.937 --> 00:03:04.773 And if you have difficulty with the other person, 00:03:04.793 --> 00:03:08.157 and if you want to change him or her, 00:03:11.164 --> 00:03:17.191 the first thing we should do is to look deeply into ourselves 00:03:18.650 --> 00:03:20.305 and into that person 00:03:21.705 --> 00:03:23.619 to realise.... 00:03:23.619 --> 00:03:26.885 to see the relationship, the connection. 00:03:28.565 --> 00:03:30.822 Usually, we think that... 00:03:31.813 --> 00:03:34.583 the other person is outside of us. 00:03:38.901 --> 00:03:41.582 And that is not right view. 00:03:44.186 --> 00:03:45.181 In this case, 00:03:45.181 --> 00:03:48.517 we think that the father is outside of us 00:03:49.512 --> 00:03:53.465 and we need only to change the outside and not the inside. 00:03:57.394 --> 00:04:00.256 We need to see that our father is in us. 00:04:00.839 --> 00:04:04.225 Our father is present in every cell of our body. 00:04:04.225 --> 00:04:06.093 We have our father in us. 00:04:06.988 --> 00:04:10.784 We are the continuation of our father. 00:04:14.605 --> 00:04:21.049 And it may be easier for us to change our father inside of us first. 00:04:23.717 --> 00:04:26.992 And we can do that 24 hours a day. 00:04:26.996 --> 00:04:29.935 We don't need to go and see him, 00:04:29.935 --> 00:04:32.579 talk to him in order to change him. 00:04:32.579 --> 00:04:35.390 The way we breathe, the way we walk, 00:04:35.722 --> 00:04:38.714 can change him in ourselves. 00:04:38.714 --> 00:04:41.063 Invite him to walk with us, 00:04:41.063 --> 00:04:43.052 to sit with us, 00:04:43.501 --> 00:04:45.215 to smile with us. 00:04:45.849 --> 00:04:49.297 And then the father inside of us will change. 00:04:49.474 --> 00:04:54.634 Otherwise, you will grow up and behave exactly like him now. 00:04:57.345 --> 00:05:01.217 There are many children who hate their father, 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:04.424 who promise that when they grow up, 00:05:04.461 --> 00:05:09.018 they will not act and say things like their father. 00:05:09.158 --> 00:05:10.753 But when they grow up, 00:05:10.753 --> 00:05:13.818 they will act exactly like their father. 00:05:13.818 --> 00:05:17.422 And they will say things exactly like their father. 00:05:20.154 --> 00:05:25.205 That has happened many times, always. 00:05:27.255 --> 00:05:28.695 So you hate it, 00:05:28.695 --> 00:05:30.227 you don't want to do it, 00:05:30.227 --> 00:05:31.944 you don't want to say it, 00:05:31.993 --> 00:05:35.465 and yet you will do exactly like that, 00:05:35.704 --> 00:05:38.381 and you will speak exactly like that. 00:05:38.487 --> 00:05:44.078 And that is what we call in Buddhism, "Samsara", going around. 00:05:46.668 --> 00:05:48.138 You continue your father, 00:05:48.138 --> 00:05:50.529 not only with your body, 00:05:50.637 --> 00:05:53.692 but also with your way of life. 00:05:54.765 --> 00:05:58.580 So that is why when you encounter the Buddhadharma, 00:05:58.580 --> 00:06:00.455 you have a chance. 00:06:00.686 --> 00:06:03.644 You have to change your father in you first. 00:06:07.166 --> 00:06:09.551 And when you have been able 00:06:09.551 --> 00:06:11.743 to change the father inside of you, 00:06:11.743 --> 00:06:14.455 he will not go to Samsara again. 00:06:14.935 --> 00:06:18.658 You will not transmit that kind of habit to your children. 00:06:19.850 --> 00:06:23.840 So you end the round of Samsara, going around... 00:06:26.994 --> 00:06:28.441 recycle... 00:06:30.801 --> 00:06:31.839 recycling... 00:06:33.578 --> 00:06:36.720 And when the father inside has been transformed, 00:06:36.956 --> 00:06:42.088 the transformation of the father outside will be much easier. 00:06:42.747 --> 00:06:44.999 That is my experience. 00:06:51.023 --> 00:06:54.532 I have fellow monks who are difficult. 00:06:55.164 --> 00:06:58.281 (Laughs) 00:06:58.683 --> 00:07:02.302 They are dignitaries in the church, in the Buddhist church. 00:07:09.842 --> 00:07:11.862 They are very conservative.... 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:15.208 ....conservative... 00:07:15.635 --> 00:07:20.232 They didn't allow transformation to take place in the... 00:07:22.788 --> 00:07:24.206 in the community. 00:07:24.956 --> 00:07:28.859 You know that in order to serve society, 00:07:28.875 --> 00:07:33.488 you have to renew your community. 00:07:33.488 --> 00:07:36.209 Whether your community is Christianity 00:07:37.118 --> 00:07:42.111 or Buddhism or Islam or Judaism, right? 00:07:42.704 --> 00:07:47.114 And many of us are eager to renew our tradition, 00:07:47.114 --> 00:07:51.638 to serve our society and human beings better, right? 00:07:51.774 --> 00:07:56.324 But there are so many conservative elements in the church. 00:07:56.324 --> 00:07:59.591 So that is true in my case also. 00:08:02.612 --> 00:08:06.157 But I noticed this very early. I said: 00:08:06.157 --> 00:08:07.615 We have... 00:08:08.549 --> 00:08:10.519 They are in us. 00:08:11.121 --> 00:08:13.697 We have to change ourselves first. 00:08:18.433 --> 00:08:21.327 So if you are a partner, 00:08:22.910 --> 00:08:25.912 and your partner does not change. 00:08:26.167 --> 00:08:31.202 Don't think that your partner is just outside of you. 00:08:31.202 --> 00:08:34.408 Your partner is inside of you. 00:08:35.370 --> 00:08:38.836 Even if you have divorced him or her. 00:08:42.826 --> 00:08:46.073 Yesterday I received a question: 00:08:47.198 --> 00:08:55.756 "Can we reconcile, can we begin anew with the one whom we have divorced?" 00:08:57.398 --> 00:09:02.751 And this is exactly the question we have to answer 00:09:04.179 --> 00:09:05.364 Because even... 00:09:07.121 --> 00:09:10.389 In the beginning you believe that after the divorce, 00:09:10.389 --> 00:09:13.578 then you can be yourself entirely, 00:09:14.099 --> 00:09:17.987 and you can take him out of you completely. 00:09:19.897 --> 00:09:21.397 That is wrong. 00:09:21.397 --> 00:09:22.423 (Laughs) 00:09:22.423 --> 00:09:26.762 You can never remove himself from you. 00:09:26.813 --> 00:09:29.785 You can never remove herself from you. 00:09:30.617 --> 00:09:32.104 No way! 00:09:35.603 --> 00:09:40.095 So before you attempt to do something with the other person outside, 00:09:41.431 --> 00:09:45.153 try to help him transform inside. 00:09:45.153 --> 00:09:48.587 try to help her transform inside. 00:09:52.846 --> 00:09:54.077 And... 00:09:54.077 --> 00:09:56.034 with this practice, 00:09:57.177 --> 00:10:00.148 we can succeed in transforming ourselves 00:10:02.769 --> 00:10:04.652 and become a model. 00:10:04.652 --> 00:10:06.566 We become fresh. 00:10:06.926 --> 00:10:11.524 Our way is exactly the way we want him to be 00:10:13.874 --> 00:10:18.491 So by speaking, by acting, by living, 00:10:20.024 --> 00:10:22.286 you begin to change him. 00:10:22.977 --> 00:10:26.031 You don't change him by talking 00:10:26.031 --> 00:10:28.656 maybe talking cannot change him. 00:10:31.288 --> 00:10:36.486 But your way of reacting, your way of acting, reacting, 00:10:37.152 --> 00:10:39.620 your way of responding, 00:10:40.367 --> 00:10:42.602 will help change that person. 00:10:44.267 --> 00:10:47.243 Because he has also his intelligence, 00:10:48.047 --> 00:10:50.706 and he can notice that. 00:10:53.724 --> 00:10:54.569 And... 00:10:55.634 --> 00:10:56.999 You know that... 00:10:57.307 --> 00:11:00.539 to succeed in the work of changing oneself, 00:11:00.900 --> 00:11:02.804 and changing the other person, 00:11:02.804 --> 00:11:07.318 you also need a Sangha, you also need friends to support you. 00:11:12.634 --> 00:11:15.606 That is why we have to take refuge in the Sangha. 00:11:15.606 --> 00:11:20.807 We have to know how to make good use of the collective energy of the Sangha 00:11:20.893 --> 00:11:23.758 to support our transformation and healing 00:11:23.758 --> 00:11:27.088 and to help us transform the other person. 00:11:27.088 --> 00:11:30.278 Don't be too eager to transform him right away. 00:11:33.477 --> 00:11:36.202 We have to accept him as he is first. 00:11:36.202 --> 00:11:39.651 We have to accept her as she is first. 00:11:39.651 --> 00:11:44.168 And after acceptance, you feel much better already. 00:11:44.937 --> 00:11:47.746 And you begin to change him inside of you. 00:11:48.334 --> 00:11:50.434 This is a very deep practice. 00:11:51.056 --> 00:11:54.978 And since our friend has been coming to Plum Village every year 00:11:54.978 --> 00:11:58.685 and practiced with us since he was a small child, 00:11:58.863 --> 00:12:01.049 I believe he can do it. 00:12:01.077 --> 00:12:04.300 And we try to support him to do it. 00:12:06.535 --> 00:12:08.164 Never lose our hope. 00:12:09.134 --> 00:12:10.086 And... 00:12:10.537 --> 00:12:12.540 the way not to lose our hope, 00:12:12.540 --> 00:12:17.934 is to make progress everyday, by the practice, daily practice. 00:12:20.274 --> 00:12:22.025 Thank you for asking the question. 00:12:22.038 --> 00:12:23.555 It is very good. 00:12:26.173 --> 00:12:27.684 (Half bell) 00:12:31.035 --> 00:12:36.354 (Bell)