0:00:01.700,0:00:03.162 (Half bell) 0:00:09.152,0:00:13.745 (Bell) 0:00:30.043,0:00:32.945 Dear Thay, dear Sangha, 0:00:34.356,0:00:37.205 I suffer a lot from my father... 0:00:40.054,0:00:41.418 He is... 0:00:43.398,0:00:45.447 It is difficult for me... 0:00:49.565,0:00:51.315 to see him...and... 0:00:52.794,0:00:55.116 it has almost become dangerous. 0:00:56.443,0:00:59.271 I don't want to see him anymore 0:00:59.597,0:01:03.505 and I have given him[br]several chances to change 0:01:05.139,0:01:09.039 I have been forcing myself to go 0:01:10.249,0:01:11.589 now I can't. 0:01:13.275,0:01:14.825 And my question is: 0:01:17.624,0:01:20.190 Do I still have to try and change him, 0:01:21.783,0:01:23.786 and try to go to him 0:01:25.751,0:01:28.316 even though it is[br]making me very tired? 0:01:38.089,0:01:40.510 Dear Thay, our friend said that 0:01:40.510,0:01:43.337 he has a lot of difficulties[br]with his father. 0:01:45.178,0:01:48.777 It has been very difficult[br]for him to see his father 0:01:48.777,0:01:52.027 and he feels that it has[br]even become dangerous 0:01:52.854,0:01:55.859 and he has tried to[br]force himself to go 0:01:55.867,0:01:58.780 to give his father many[br]chances to change, 0:01:58.780,0:02:00.263 to transform, 0:02:00.263,0:02:03.667 but he feels that it[br]has not been successful. 0:02:03.667,0:02:08.256 He feels that he cannot[br]force himself to go anymore, 0:02:08.280,0:02:13.444 but he is asking Thay if[br]he should to continue to try 0:02:15.020,0:02:18.158 to bring his father[br]to transform, to change, 0:02:20.444,0:02:25.310 to push himself to try[br]to help his father to change 0:02:29.657,0:02:33.491 In order to find the right answer, 0:02:33.491,0:02:35.607 we have to look first, 0:02:36.404,0:02:38.193 look more deeply, 0:02:39.027,0:02:44.132 to see the relationship between[br]us and the other person, 0:02:47.758,0:02:51.434 whether you are son and father, 0:02:53.236,0:02:55.839 or whether you are daughter and mother, 0:02:57.641,0:03:00.472 or you are partner and partner. 0:03:00.937,0:03:04.773 And if you have difficulty[br]with the other person, 0:03:04.793,0:03:08.157 and if you want to[br]change him or her, 0:03:11.164,0:03:17.191 the first thing we should do is[br]to look deeply into ourselves 0:03:18.650,0:03:20.305 and into that person 0:03:21.705,0:03:23.619 to realise.... 0:03:23.619,0:03:26.885 to see the relationship, the connection. 0:03:28.565,0:03:30.822 Usually, we think that... 0:03:31.813,0:03:34.583 the other person is outside of us. 0:03:38.901,0:03:41.582 And that is not right view. 0:03:44.186,0:03:45.181 In this case, 0:03:45.181,0:03:48.517 we think that the father is outside of us 0:03:49.512,0:03:53.465 and we need only to change[br]the outside and not the inside. 0:03:57.394,0:04:00.256 We need to see that[br]our father is in us. 0:04:00.839,0:04:04.225 Our father is present[br]in every cell of our body. 0:04:04.225,0:04:06.093 We have our father in us. 0:04:06.988,0:04:10.784 We are the continuation[br]of our father. 0:04:14.605,0:04:21.049 And it may be easier for us to change[br]our father inside of us first. 0:04:23.717,0:04:26.992 And we can do that 24 hours a day. 0:04:26.996,0:04:29.935 We don't need to go and see him, 0:04:29.935,0:04:32.579 talk to him in order to change him. 0:04:32.579,0:04:35.390 The way we breathe,[br]the way we walk, 0:04:35.722,0:04:38.714 can change him in ourselves. 0:04:38.714,0:04:41.063 Invite him to walk with us, 0:04:41.063,0:04:43.052 to sit with us, 0:04:43.501,0:04:45.215 to smile with us. 0:04:45.849,0:04:49.297 And then the father[br]inside of us will change. 0:04:49.474,0:04:54.634 Otherwise, you will grow up[br]and behave exactly like him now. 0:04:57.345,0:05:01.217 There are many children[br]who hate their father, 0:05:01.639,0:05:04.424 who promise that when they grow up, 0:05:04.461,0:05:09.018 they will not act and[br]say things like their father. 0:05:09.158,0:05:10.753 But when they grow up, 0:05:10.753,0:05:13.818 they will act exactly like their father. 0:05:13.818,0:05:17.422 And they will say things[br]exactly like their father. 0:05:20.154,0:05:25.205 That has happened many times, always. 0:05:27.255,0:05:28.695 So you hate it, 0:05:28.695,0:05:30.227 you don't want to do it, 0:05:30.227,0:05:31.944 you don't want to say it, 0:05:31.993,0:05:35.465 and yet you will do exactly like that, 0:05:35.704,0:05:38.381 and you will speak exactly like that. 0:05:38.487,0:05:44.078 And that is what we call in Buddhism,[br]"Samsara", going around. 0:05:46.668,0:05:48.138 You continue your father, 0:05:48.138,0:05:50.529 not only with your body, 0:05:50.637,0:05:53.692 but also with your way of life. 0:05:54.765,0:05:58.580 So that is why when you[br]encounter the Buddhadharma, 0:05:58.580,0:06:00.455 you have a chance. 0:06:00.686,0:06:03.644 You have to change[br]your father in you first. 0:06:07.166,0:06:09.551 And when you have been able 0:06:09.551,0:06:11.743 to change the father inside of you, 0:06:11.743,0:06:14.455 he will not go to Samsara again. 0:06:14.935,0:06:18.658 You will not transmit[br]that kind of habit to your children. 0:06:19.850,0:06:23.840 So you end the round of[br]Samsara, going around... 0:06:26.994,0:06:28.441 recycle... 0:06:30.801,0:06:31.839 recycling... 0:06:33.578,0:06:36.720 And when the father inside[br]has been transformed, 0:06:36.956,0:06:42.088 the transformation of the father[br]outside will be much easier. 0:06:42.747,0:06:44.999 That is my experience. 0:06:51.023,0:06:54.532 I have fellow monks who are difficult. 0:06:55.164,0:06:58.281 (Laughs) 0:06:58.683,0:07:02.302 They are dignitaries in the church,[br]in the Buddhist church. 0:07:09.842,0:07:11.862 They are very conservative.... 0:07:13.560,0:07:15.208 ....conservative... 0:07:15.635,0:07:20.232 They didn't allow transformation[br]to take place in the... 0:07:22.788,0:07:24.206 in the community. 0:07:24.956,0:07:28.859 You know that in order[br]to serve society, 0:07:28.875,0:07:33.488 you have to renew your community. 0:07:33.488,0:07:36.209 Whether your community is Christianity 0:07:37.118,0:07:42.111 or Buddhism or Islam or Judaism, right? 0:07:42.704,0:07:47.114 And many of us are eager[br]to renew our tradition, 0:07:47.114,0:07:51.638 to serve our society[br]and human beings better, right? 0:07:51.774,0:07:56.324 But there are so many[br]conservative elements in the church. 0:07:56.324,0:07:59.591 So that is true in my case also. 0:08:02.612,0:08:06.157 But I noticed this very early.[br]I said: 0:08:06.157,0:08:07.615 We have... 0:08:08.549,0:08:10.519 They are in us. 0:08:11.121,0:08:13.697 We have to change ourselves first. 0:08:18.433,0:08:21.327 So if you are a partner, 0:08:22.910,0:08:25.912 and your partner does not change. 0:08:26.167,0:08:31.202 Don't think that your partner[br]is just outside of you. 0:08:31.202,0:08:34.408 Your partner is inside of you. 0:08:35.370,0:08:38.836 Even if you have divorced him or her. 0:08:42.826,0:08:46.073 Yesterday I received a question: 0:08:47.198,0:08:55.756 "Can we reconcile, can we begin anew[br]with the one whom we have divorced?" 0:08:57.398,0:09:02.751 And this is exactly[br]the question we have to answer 0:09:04.179,0:09:05.364 Because even... 0:09:07.121,0:09:10.389 In the beginning you believe[br]that after the divorce, 0:09:10.389,0:09:13.578 then you can be yourself entirely, 0:09:14.099,0:09:17.987 and you can take him[br]out of you completely. 0:09:19.897,0:09:21.397 That is wrong. 0:09:21.397,0:09:22.423 (Laughs) 0:09:22.423,0:09:26.762 You can never remove himself from you. 0:09:26.813,0:09:29.785 You can never remove[br]herself from you. 0:09:30.617,0:09:32.104 No way! 0:09:35.603,0:09:40.095 So before you attempt to do something[br]with the other person outside, 0:09:41.431,0:09:45.153 try to help him transform inside. 0:09:45.153,0:09:48.587 try to help her transform inside. 0:09:52.846,0:09:54.077 And... 0:09:54.077,0:09:56.034 with this practice, 0:09:57.177,0:10:00.148 we can succeed in transforming ourselves 0:10:02.769,0:10:04.652 and become a model. 0:10:04.652,0:10:06.566 We become fresh. 0:10:06.926,0:10:11.524 Our way is exactly[br]the way we want him to be 0:10:13.874,0:10:18.491 So by speaking,[br]by acting, by living, 0:10:20.024,0:10:22.286 you begin to change him. 0:10:22.977,0:10:26.031 You don't change him by talking 0:10:26.031,0:10:28.656 maybe talking cannot change him. 0:10:31.288,0:10:36.486 But your way of reacting,[br]your way of acting, reacting, 0:10:37.152,0:10:39.620 your way of responding, 0:10:40.367,0:10:42.602 will help change that person. 0:10:44.267,0:10:47.243 Because he has also his intelligence, 0:10:48.047,0:10:50.706 and he can notice that. 0:10:53.724,0:10:54.569 And... 0:10:55.634,0:10:56.999 You know that... 0:10:57.307,0:11:00.539 to succeed in the work[br]of changing oneself, 0:11:00.900,0:11:02.804 and changing the other person, 0:11:02.804,0:11:07.318 you also need a Sangha,[br]you also need friends to support you. 0:11:12.634,0:11:15.606 That is why we have to[br]take refuge in the Sangha. 0:11:15.606,0:11:20.807 We have to know how to make good use[br]of the collective energy of the Sangha 0:11:20.893,0:11:23.758 to support our transformation and healing 0:11:23.758,0:11:27.088 and to help us transform the other person. 0:11:27.088,0:11:30.278 Don't be too eager to[br]transform him right away. 0:11:33.477,0:11:36.202 We have to accept him as he is first. 0:11:36.202,0:11:39.651 We have to accept her as she is first. 0:11:39.651,0:11:44.168 And after acceptance,[br]you feel much better already. 0:11:44.937,0:11:47.746 And you begin to change him inside of you. 0:11:48.334,0:11:50.434 This is a very deep practice. 0:11:51.056,0:11:54.978 And since our friend has been[br]coming to Plum Village every year 0:11:54.978,0:11:58.685 and practiced with us[br]since he was a small child, 0:11:58.863,0:12:01.049 I believe he can do it. 0:12:01.077,0:12:04.300 And we try to support him to do it. 0:12:06.535,0:12:08.164 Never lose our hope. 0:12:09.134,0:12:10.086 And... 0:12:10.537,0:12:12.540 the way not to lose our hope, 0:12:12.540,0:12:17.934 is to make progress everyday,[br]by the practice, daily practice. 0:12:20.274,0:12:22.025 Thank you for asking the question. 0:12:22.038,0:12:23.555 It is very good. 0:12:26.173,0:12:27.684 (Half bell) 0:12:31.035,0:12:36.354 (Bell)