WEBVTT 00:00:06.049 --> 00:00:07.429 Thanks a lot for the invitation. 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:11.898 It's definitely not my time of the day so excuse me if I'm a little bit… 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:14.905 Right, next to the track. 00:00:16.292 --> 00:00:20.186 I'm always really happy to speak in front of people 00:00:20.186 --> 00:00:25.470 who are dealing with IT and stuff because I'm so much not an IT person. 00:00:25.673 --> 00:00:28.759 You saw that I wasn't even able to start my presentation alone. 00:00:30.625 --> 00:00:31.435 I'm from CADUS. 00:00:32.004 --> 00:00:37.401 CADUS is a humanitarian NGO that was founded 3 years ago in Berlin. 00:00:38.294 --> 00:00:45.158 It was founded out of a kind of subculture that is strongly related to the CCC, but 00:00:45.158 --> 00:00:47.999 to the musical and festival subculture as well. 00:00:51.659 --> 00:00:55.762 What I want to talk about today is our crisis response makerspace in Berlin. 00:00:56.372 --> 00:01:00.965 Holger (Levsen) invited me after we saw each other again at Datengarten in Berlin 00:01:00.965 --> 00:01:03.529 and he asked if I can make the presentation in english as well. 00:01:03.529 --> 00:01:08.119 My english is shit, so please excuse me if I have to search some words 00:01:08.119 --> 00:01:09.541 from time to time. 00:01:12.999 --> 00:01:15.604 Do you have an idea what this is? 00:01:20.308 --> 00:01:25.075 It's a huge truck, it's a medical sign on it, so this is a kind of mobile hospital. 00:01:25.643 --> 00:01:29.792 Mobile hospital which you can use if other hospitals are broken down 00:01:29.792 --> 00:01:31.374 or if there are no hospitals. 00:01:31.781 --> 00:01:36.614 Do you have an idea how much such an hospital would cost you 00:01:36.614 --> 00:01:37.873 to buy? 00:01:39.946 --> 00:01:43.238 3 millions, 2 millions, 3 millions, 4 millions, hum… 00:01:46.116 --> 00:01:49.707 This is a picture of a destroyed hospital in Syria. 00:01:50.912 --> 00:01:56.571 You all see a lot of pictures on the TV, stuff like that. 00:01:57.099 --> 00:02:00.901 Can you relate these 3 to 4 millions mobile hospitals 00:02:00.901 --> 00:02:02.303 to these destroyed hospitals? 00:02:02.669 --> 00:02:06.289 Do you normally see in the media that if a hospital is destroyed 00:02:06.289 --> 00:02:10.393 then this fancy stuff is deployed to there? 00:02:12.697 --> 00:02:14.414 Do you have an idea why? 00:02:17.180 --> 00:02:18.812 It's "fucking expensive"? 00:02:19.545 --> 00:02:20.358 Something more? 00:02:25.802 --> 00:02:27.529 "Who's gonna pay for it?" 00:02:31.162 --> 00:02:32.878 "Is help wanted?" 00:02:33.454 --> 00:02:33.820 More? 00:02:43.250 --> 00:02:45.321 It is a question of safety from time to time. 00:02:46.017 --> 00:02:51.947 But on top you have to imagine Syria, war country, dust, heat, 00:02:51.947 --> 00:02:55.685 no supply chain, nothing like that, so bringing there 00:02:55.685 --> 00:03:00.370 a 4 million mobile hospital might end in two weeks of working and after that 00:03:00.370 --> 00:03:03.954 nothing is working anymore because you don't have the technicians 00:03:03.954 --> 00:03:07.527 who can repair this kind of stuff for example. 00:03:09.597 --> 00:03:11.774 Next example, I'm sure you know 00:03:11.875 --> 00:03:13.825 What it is is a pretty fancy fire truck. 00:03:14.396 --> 00:03:18.002 You have them in Germany in all the bigger villages and 00:03:18.002 --> 00:03:19.551 all the cities, stuff like that. 00:03:20.127 --> 00:03:22.243 If you take a look inside this firetruck, 00:03:22.243 --> 00:03:24.927 you see plenty of fancy stuff. 00:03:25.285 --> 00:03:29.237 I love this stuff, there is stuff to put out fire, there's stuff to lift things 00:03:29.237 --> 00:03:30.405 with hydrolics. 00:03:30.861 --> 00:03:34.073 There is normal stuff like shovels and stuff like that. 00:03:35.657 --> 00:03:38.539 But if you relate this to pictures in disaster areas, 00:03:38.539 --> 00:03:41.904 this is from Haiti, then you see that you have plenty of people 00:03:41.904 --> 00:03:43.708 but no equipment at all. 00:03:45.571 --> 00:03:51.462 All's pretty clear because normally, after a disaster, 00:03:51.462 --> 00:03:55.607 people from all over the world come as fast as possible to the disaster area 00:03:55.607 --> 00:03:57.596 the so-called "urban search and rescue teams". 00:03:57.963 --> 00:04:01.051 They're coming by plane, so all the fancy stuff that we have 00:04:01.051 --> 00:04:02.963 in our societies stays here, 00:04:02.963 --> 00:04:07.104 and a few people, typically "white knights of humanitarian aid" 00:04:07.288 --> 00:04:10.823 go to the disaster areas to help "the poor people". 00:04:12.556 --> 00:04:14.630 You understand this was cynical. 00:04:16.665 --> 00:04:20.452 And there's a third example. Have you ever seen what this is? 00:04:22.157 --> 00:04:23.695 This is a tourniquet. 00:04:24.394 --> 00:04:29.346 A tourniquet is one meter of nylon strap and a little bit of plastic. 00:04:30.333 --> 00:04:35.087 A tourniquet is the best way to stop severe bleeding immediately. 00:04:35.899 --> 00:04:37.974 We know this since the second world war. 00:04:38.033 --> 00:04:41.468 At least it's twenty years it's totally clear and 00:04:41.468 --> 00:04:44.844 it's validated, this is the best way to stop severe bleeding. 00:04:46.182 --> 00:04:50.449 Spoiler, you won't see this in the media if you see like people in Syria getting hurt 00:04:50.449 --> 00:04:53.292 like losing legs after explosions and stuff like that. 00:04:55.327 --> 00:04:59.071 Do you have an idea how expensive is such a thing? 00:04:59.270 --> 00:05:02.275 One meter of nylon, a little piece of plastic? 00:05:08.016 --> 00:05:10.818 Not so expensive, but it goes in this direction: 00:05:10.818 --> 00:05:12.896 55 dollars for one of these. 00:05:12.988 --> 00:05:16.341 55 dollars for fucking one meter of nylon strap. 00:05:16.858 --> 00:05:19.994 And, I don't know, less than 10g of plastic. 00:05:21.614 --> 00:05:24.172 The last example, I don't know if you have a pet. 00:05:24.456 --> 00:05:32.716 I had a dog, if I would like to, I could add a GPS to my dog 00:05:32.716 --> 00:05:36.213 and this GPS would say when my dog is sleeping, where my dog is, 00:05:36.213 --> 00:05:38.771 where I can find my dog if it's gone, stuff like that. 00:05:39.582 --> 00:05:44.375 But again if you went Haiti directly after the earthquake, 00:05:44.375 --> 00:05:48.802 people searched for other people in collapsed building 00:05:48.875 --> 00:05:50.629 with their bare hands. 00:05:51.273 --> 00:05:55.628 So, obviously, we have a lot of technical solutions for everything. 00:05:56.522 --> 00:06:00.830 I can look for my fucking dog in Hamburg where it is via my app on my iPhone 00:06:00.830 --> 00:06:05.903 but on the other hand, in a disaster area it's not even possible to search for 00:06:05.903 --> 00:06:08.965 people who are buried in collapsed buildings. 00:06:09.329 --> 00:06:10.795 There are several reasons for that. 00:06:12.014 --> 00:06:15.591 One reason: humanitarian work, humanitarian aid is a market. 00:06:16.445 --> 00:06:18.513 This is a little bit perverted but it is a market. 00:06:18.841 --> 00:06:20.107 It's always a question. 00:06:20.107 --> 00:06:22.990 It's not like "Who wants to aid?" but "Who pays for the help?". 00:06:24.649 --> 00:06:26.476 "Who gets his share out of this help?" 00:06:28.791 --> 00:06:34.155 And you can imagine we have, I don't know, every two or three years a major earthquake 00:06:34.155 --> 00:06:39.242 so the market, if you compare it to another business market, is pretty small. 00:06:39.890 --> 00:06:45.739 Who cares for the 1000, 2000, 3000 people who die in the earthquake every 3 years? 00:06:47.487 --> 00:06:49.762 The next thing: access to the market. 00:06:50.660 --> 00:06:52.572 Is it possible to bring things to Syria? 00:06:52.572 --> 00:06:55.165 Why should I develop, as a businessman in capitalism, 00:06:55.165 --> 00:06:58.408 why should I develop something if I can't reach my market easily? 00:06:59.986 --> 00:07:00.986 To make my share. 00:07:02.425 --> 00:07:05.332 And the third thing: who are the players on the market. 00:07:05.636 --> 00:07:08.238 In humanitarian aid, most players are NGOs. 00:07:09.131 --> 00:07:13.119 NGOs are not really interested in developing new things because 00:07:13.119 --> 00:07:18.526 if I have an NGO, a classical NGO, then I like the things how they are. 00:07:19.134 --> 00:07:24.131 If there is a disaster, I send my people, I make some nice pictures for the media 00:07:24.131 --> 00:07:25.760 and I get a little of donations. 00:07:25.924 --> 00:07:27.832 I'm not interested in changing things. 00:07:28.607 --> 00:07:31.690 If I would like building capacity and local communities 00:07:31.690 --> 00:07:34.463 so much that they don't need me anymore after disasters, 00:07:34.463 --> 00:07:37.516 then there's no need for my nice wide NGO anymore. 00:07:37.961 --> 00:07:42.951 So, these three things together make the situation where you have 00:07:42.951 --> 00:07:47.671 a lot of solutions in our communities and in our societies 00:07:47.671 --> 00:07:52.430 but you have no possibility to bring this to disaster aid. 00:07:53.608 --> 00:07:57.390 We started in 2014 in northern Syria more or less by accident. 00:07:57.871 --> 00:08:03.087 We were asked if we could come with a political delegation and make 00:08:03.087 --> 00:08:06.422 an overview of the medical infrastructure. 00:08:07.437 --> 00:08:09.630 And ever since we were stuck in this region 00:08:09.630 --> 00:08:12.964 because we saw no NGOs working there, 00:08:12.964 --> 00:08:16.582 because the states were not really willing to pay money for that, 00:08:16.582 --> 00:08:22.556 because the northern, north-east Syria is ruled by some Kurdish militias 00:08:22.556 --> 00:08:26.261 and these Kurdish militias are too lefty to get money from states, 00:08:26.261 --> 00:08:27.719 let's say it this way. 00:08:28.296 --> 00:08:37.001 So we saw the situation there and we still had an old 4-wheel driven truck 00:08:37.477 --> 00:08:39.305 here in Germany and we said 00:08:39.305 --> 00:08:43.977 "This would be great if we just built out of this truck a mobile hospital." 00:08:44.180 --> 00:08:45.280 We had no idea how to do this, 00:08:45.280 --> 00:08:48.980 we were really a little bit naive in these times. 00:08:49.346 --> 00:08:50.360 We said just like 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:54.226 "It's a nice truck, there's a lot of space in this truck, so let's build it." 00:08:54.459 --> 00:08:58.367 "We have an idea, we have a fantasy. We will go with this truck to northern Syria 00:08:58.367 --> 00:09:01.823 then we will give it to a local NGO and then they have a mobile hospital 00:09:01.823 --> 00:09:06.374 to follow the front lines in their fight against the so-called islamic state." 00:09:07.227 --> 00:09:14.177 And one year and a half, two years later, we really were in nothern Iraq, 00:09:14.177 --> 00:09:17.706 not northern Syria so far, but in northern Iraq with our mobile hospital. 00:09:19.745 --> 00:09:25.303 And it was pretty hard to cross a border to Syria so we had to stay in northern Iraq 00:09:25.303 --> 00:09:29.005 So we asked to WHO, the World Health Organisation, 00:09:29.005 --> 00:09:32.254 "What can we do right now? We are here, we have a mobile hospital. 00:09:32.254 --> 00:09:33.755 Do you see any need for us?" 00:09:33.755 --> 00:09:34.609 And they said 00:09:34.609 --> 00:09:38.218 "Yeah, guys, if you'd like to, then we would like to send you to Mossoul." 00:09:40.529 --> 00:09:43.499 I don't know if you saw in the media, last year, 00:09:43.499 --> 00:09:47.728 the battle of Mossoul was one of the most bloody and the most shitty battle 00:09:47.728 --> 00:09:51.504 that we had in the past 20, 30 years, I think. 00:09:51.748 --> 00:09:57.220 It was a lot civilian casualties and we said 00:09:57.220 --> 00:10:01.495 "Ok, let's try. We built this mobile hospital, let's see if it's working." 00:10:03.034 --> 00:10:07.673 We were able to work, like, 1.5km behind the frontline with the islamic state 00:10:07.673 --> 00:10:12.391 and we were really wondering, we were really surprised, because we saw that 00:10:12.391 --> 00:10:17.352 nobody else was working there, because they just didn't have the equipment for that 00:10:17.676 --> 00:10:21.273 because it is easier to buy a mobile hospital for 3-4 million dollars 00:10:22.167 --> 00:10:25.014 nobody had that, and other things were not available on the market 00:10:25.177 --> 00:10:27.780 so we were the only ones working there 00:10:28.388 --> 00:10:32.613 Over the few months that we worked directly at the front line, 00:10:32.613 --> 00:10:35.583 we treated several thousands people with this. 00:10:38.915 --> 00:10:43.706 This was actually the moment when the crisis response makerspace was born. 00:10:44.145 --> 00:10:47.341 So it was not planned that we build up this makerspace, it was just like 00:10:47.871 --> 00:10:50.717 we had two workshops in Berlin where we fixed the truck 00:10:51.087 --> 00:10:54.055 where we renovated the truck and stuff like that. 00:10:57.305 --> 00:10:59.944 After we went to Iraq, we just thought 00:10:59.944 --> 00:11:02.344 "This was a pretty good idea and it worked out pretty well." 00:11:02.831 --> 00:11:07.147 We were sure there were more problems that had to be solved in humanitarian crisis. 00:11:09.133 --> 00:11:13.961 Actually, this first mobile hospital went over the border to Syria one week ago 00:11:13.961 --> 00:11:17.080 so it is on ??? should have gone too. 00:11:18.218 --> 00:11:19.723 What we're doing at the moment. 00:11:21.107 --> 00:11:24.756 We have some lessons learned from this first mobile hospital and 00:11:24.756 --> 00:11:27.417 we're developing a second mobile hospital 00:11:27.417 --> 00:11:32.401 because the first one was based on old trucks that we could get really cheap 00:11:32.401 --> 00:11:34.516 in Germany, but our idea was always 00:11:34.516 --> 00:11:39.912 we would like to create opensource blueprints for local NGOs, 00:11:39.912 --> 00:11:43.233 so that they can copy our solution that we developed. 00:11:44.095 --> 00:11:48.238 With these german trucks, it's not really easy, we can't to an NGO in the Middle East 00:11:48.238 --> 00:11:50.641 and say "Look, this is how we build it" 00:11:50.885 --> 00:11:53.038 because they can't get the hand on these german trucks 00:11:53.038 --> 00:11:57.267 So now we use UC containers because you can get them everywhere in the world, 00:11:57.267 --> 00:12:02.345 they are unbelievably cheap, you can get them for 2,500€ and 00:12:05.075 --> 00:12:08.376 at the moment in Berlin we are building something like this. 00:12:10.730 --> 00:12:15.530 It's not to work inside the containers but to have an inflatable tent structure 00:12:15.530 --> 00:12:19.318 coming out of the container and then you have your 20 treatment places and 00:12:19.318 --> 00:12:23.907 we're working on different solutions that are not existing at the moment 00:12:23.907 --> 00:12:26.712 like this patient treatment places are based on flight cases 00:12:26.712 --> 00:12:27.646 and stuff like this 00:12:27.646 --> 00:12:32.200 We try to bring together our experiences from the musical subculture 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:37.284 from organizing festivals, from building up structures pretty fast 00:12:37.284 --> 00:12:41.508 and empty rooms and stuff like that together with this humanitarian problems. 00:12:44.638 --> 00:12:47.728 Another problem that I had at the beginning was the firetruck, 00:12:47.728 --> 00:12:51.141 when I said "no firetruck in disaster areas" and we thought 00:12:53.930 --> 00:12:56.325 "We can get our hands on these firetrucks" 00:12:56.458 --> 00:13:00.270 This firetruck is basically just a truck with a good solution about 00:13:00.727 --> 00:13:02.679 how to store your equipment 00:13:02.924 --> 00:13:05.848 so that you can use your equipment when it's still on the truck 00:13:05.848 --> 00:13:09.423 and you have your engine running and you have electricity and stuff like that. 00:13:10.033 --> 00:13:13.406 We were thinking "Ok, you don't need this firetruck, you just need 00:13:13.406 --> 00:13:17.554 a box system that you can bring with normal appliances to disaster areas 00:13:17.554 --> 00:13:19.219 and then put them on normal pick-ups, 00:13:19.219 --> 00:13:21.409 pick-ups you find all over the world. 00:13:22.829 --> 00:13:28.269 For this we would need a kind of box system that you can connect and 00:13:28.269 --> 00:13:30.009 three angles. 00:13:30.299 --> 00:13:32.780 We took a look at the market, and again, 00:13:32.780 --> 00:13:35.179 it's not necessary normally, to have something like this. 00:13:35.341 --> 00:13:42.169 Nobody developed this, meaning that you can load these boxes with up to 200kg. 00:13:44.675 --> 00:13:51.485 We developed a new kind of box. It won't have the name CAbox in the future, 00:13:51.485 --> 00:13:53.681 but we couldn't find another. 00:13:54.250 --> 00:13:56.687 This box is a modular system. 00:13:58.962 --> 00:14:04.164 We try to work together with universities, this was together with the HTW in Berlin. 00:14:06.764 --> 00:14:12.337 This is how things are done with us, we have first an idea, like 00:14:12.337 --> 00:14:16.323 "How can we cut a firetruck in pieces, bring it to a disaster area and 00:14:16.323 --> 00:14:17.825 put it together again?" 00:14:18.102 --> 00:14:20.625 and out of this process are coming more and more ideas. 00:14:20.625 --> 00:14:24.896 We thought "Perhaps it's not only connecting these boxes, 00:14:24.896 --> 00:14:28.759 perhaps it's an idea to make it in a modular way because then, 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:32.664 you can define, for every side of the box 00:14:32.664 --> 00:14:35.264 a special use, like for example photovoltaic 00:14:35.264 --> 00:14:40.822 and now we have a box developed that you can put in a normal airplane, 00:14:40.822 --> 00:14:45.742 bring to a disaster area, just ??? these boxes, these sides of the boxes 00:14:45.742 --> 00:14:50.138 and get electricity, for example inside a water pump or something like that. 00:14:52.779 --> 00:14:57.820 We then thought about "Ok, but how can we get into the disaster areas 00:14:57.820 --> 00:14:59.323 if there are lots of blocks" 00:14:59.323 --> 00:15:02.115 We saw this in the ??? of the earthquake, 00:15:02.115 --> 00:15:06.013 we saw this on Puerto Rico last year after the typhoon, 00:15:06.013 --> 00:15:08.341 that the help couldn't reach the island 00:15:09.234 --> 00:15:13.540 We thought that it's not so difficult to throw things out of airplanes. 00:15:14.882 --> 00:15:16.631 So again, we took a look at the market and said 00:15:16.631 --> 00:15:23.093 "Wow, no civilian solutions to throw huge payloads out of aircrafts." 00:15:24.637 --> 00:15:27.603 The solutions on the market are military solutions. 00:15:28.529 --> 00:15:33.602 So the UN can use it, but normally it's up to the national military 00:15:33.845 --> 00:15:34.984 who can use it. 00:15:35.269 --> 00:15:38.566 The only solution we could find was a box system coming 00:15:38.566 --> 00:15:41.571 from an english company 00:15:41.571 --> 00:15:49.937 and with this box, you can throw, I think, up to 70kg but only things that can't break 00:15:50.506 --> 00:15:53.633 you can't throw out medical instruments with this. 00:15:55.263 --> 00:15:58.468 So, what we did, we called again, we looked for 00:15:58.468 --> 00:16:02.940 who could be the best person to talk with us about something like that. 00:16:03.673 --> 00:16:06.109 And we thought, it's not the military, obviously, because 00:16:06.109 --> 00:16:11.183 they're thinking bigger scales, they're thinking endless money, 00:16:11.183 --> 00:16:13.047 they're thinking endless logistics 00:16:13.047 --> 00:16:16.821 So we got together with paragliders from Switzerland. 00:16:18.446 --> 00:16:22.097 We met with the refugee response in the Mediterranean 00:16:22.632 --> 00:16:26.211 and told them "We would like to throw things out of airplanes. 00:16:26.822 --> 00:16:28.204 What do you think about it?" 00:16:28.571 --> 00:16:32.106 They said "Why not? We are jumping out of airplanes all the time!" 00:16:32.592 --> 00:16:35.109 So why should it be so difficult? 00:16:35.726 --> 00:16:40.516 What came out is that every paraglider which goes down a mountain 00:16:40.516 --> 00:16:46.253 in Switzerland, frequently, daily, has an emergency parachute 00:16:46.416 --> 00:16:47.483 in his powerglide. 00:16:47.804 --> 00:16:51.500 And this emergency parachute has to be renewed every 3 years, 00:16:51.829 --> 00:16:57.282 not because it's broken, but because we're living in a rich society and insurances say 00:16:57.282 --> 00:16:59.723 "If you don't do this, I won't insure you." 00:17:00.740 --> 00:17:08.450 So, you have plenty, hundreds, thousands of used parachutes that are totally ok 00:17:08.694 --> 00:17:12.108 And you can hang, obviously, more than 100kg on them. 00:17:12.516 --> 00:17:14.184 Then you have these tandem parachutes, 00:17:14.184 --> 00:17:17.069 you can obviously hang more than 250kg on them. 00:17:18.863 --> 00:17:21.955 So, what we did, totally illegal, 00:17:22.321 --> 00:17:26.180 we tried it out and threw some things from really high bridges in Switzerland 00:17:26.465 --> 00:17:28.134 with these parachutes. 00:17:28.697 --> 00:17:31.057 And then we saw "yeah, it's functioning." 00:17:32.897 --> 00:17:35.262 Next thing was that we developed 00:17:35.385 --> 00:17:36.805 [laughter] 00:17:36.933 --> 00:17:42.993 a kind of absorption with carton 00:17:44.943 --> 00:17:49.539 and the funny thing when we went to Switzerland and said to the officials 00:17:49.539 --> 00:17:54.534 "Yeah, you know, we're a bunch of punk rock idiots working in 00:17:54.534 --> 00:17:57.869 humanitarian aid but we have this idea, we could throw things 00:17:57.869 --> 00:17:59.817 out of normal parachuting machines, 00:17:59.817 --> 00:18:01.887 because you can find them all over the world, 00:18:01.887 --> 00:18:03.756 because all over the world, people do this sport. 00:18:04.367 --> 00:18:09.372 And it's pretty cheap, and we could reach valleys that are not reachable yet". 00:18:09.860 --> 00:18:10.920 They said 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:12.627 "Do you know what the problem is? 00:18:12.627 --> 00:18:15.915 Every country has to have this air drop capacity." 00:18:17.252 --> 00:18:25.575 This is like, I don't know, regularly from the international air travel something 00:18:25.575 --> 00:18:30.490 and they said "We, in Switzerland, we solve this again with the military. 00:18:30.490 --> 00:18:35.414 We have to pay like 24,000€ an hour to do this because we do this 00:18:35.414 --> 00:18:37.369 with helicopters. 00:18:37.613 --> 00:18:41.909 You offer us a solution that, if it's working out, is working with 00:18:41.909 --> 00:18:44.761 2,000€ an hour." 00:18:45.012 --> 00:18:50.372 So they said "If your system is working, you will be immediately assigned 00:18:50.372 --> 00:18:54.846 as an official humanitarian air drop capacity in Switzerland." 00:18:56.922 --> 00:19:00.911 We started 1.5 years ago and then 00:19:04.157 --> 00:19:05.784 what's called ??? 00:19:08.548 --> 00:19:14.365 building in Berlin to renew old trucks to bring to Northern Syria 00:19:15.177 --> 00:19:19.168 and then we thought "Let's use this space, let's look for solutions 00:19:19.168 --> 00:19:20.633 for humanitarian problems." 00:19:21.526 --> 00:19:26.650 And the idea was, in the beginning, just to bring together nerds, geeks, people 00:19:26.650 --> 00:19:32.341 out of the field, refugees who know best what will help them in the crises, 00:19:32.341 --> 00:19:35.595 specialists, universities, stuff like that. 00:19:35.838 --> 00:19:40.271 What started like "Let's see if it could happen." 00:19:40.271 --> 00:19:46.525 comes out as, this year in July, we will throw out some boxes with parachutes 00:19:46.525 --> 00:19:49.696 out of airplanes and we'll perhaps have 00:19:49.696 --> 00:19:53.320 the first worldwide airborne emergency response unit. 00:19:56.568 --> 00:19:59.819 So, yes, we saw there is a big need for these things. 00:20:00.388 --> 00:20:06.687 At the moment, we don't have a lot of IT projects, we have some ideas and 00:20:06.687 --> 00:20:13.356 we would like to grow our network, because we have nerds from the CCC 00:20:13.356 --> 00:20:17.730 sitting around there, but at the moment they ??? to do something with ??? 00:20:23.686 --> 00:20:28.117 but this makerspace is a makerspace like you know it. 00:20:28.777 --> 00:20:31.013 You have an open space, everybody could come in. 00:20:31.378 --> 00:20:33.667 We have only the regular toys and we say 00:20:33.668 --> 00:20:37.808 "Everything that is developed should be with a focus on humanitarian aid and 00:20:38.074 --> 00:20:40.801 everything that we develop has to be open source 00:20:41.411 --> 00:20:44.615 so that people can use it worldwide." 00:20:46.286 --> 00:20:48.969 If you would like to get in contact with us, 00:20:48.969 --> 00:20:51.526 www.cadus.org 00:20:51.526 --> 00:20:57.341 We have all this fancy stuff like facebook, twitter and that you can find 00:20:57.341 --> 00:20:59.170 on the homepage. 00:21:00.554 --> 00:21:02.628 Thank you very much for your attention. 00:21:05.336 --> 00:21:11.261 [Applause] 00:21:15.414 --> 00:21:17.202 Are there questions? 00:21:27.568 --> 00:21:33.167 [Q] Hi, thank you for the talk. I'm not sure if you know about an organization, 00:21:33.167 --> 00:21:37.725 I think it's only french at the moment, which is called HAND, which is 00:21:37.725 --> 00:21:40.444 Hackers Against Natural Disasters 00:21:40.444 --> 00:21:46.533 It's basically a non-profit which tries to help local populations 00:21:46.533 --> 00:21:53.576 in case of natural disasters, mostly they were in ??? for the typhoon 00:21:53.576 --> 00:21:56.546 in french islands in the Carribean 00:21:56.546 --> 00:22:02.195 and they tried to set up some kind of infrastructures, IT infrastructures. 00:22:02.195 --> 00:22:07.803 There are ham radios and they tried to set up internet and stuff like that so 00:22:07.803 --> 00:22:11.297 people can actually use communications 00:22:11.297 --> 00:22:14.268 and they tried to set up like 3G networks. 00:22:16.328 --> 00:22:18.781 I think it's only french but they have a great, 00:22:19.043 --> 00:22:23.811 I don't know a lot about them, but I think they have a quite hacker spirit. 00:22:25.510 --> 00:22:30.555 ??? cooperation with you. 00:22:31.613 --> 00:22:33.888 [A] This is really perfect, thank you very much. 00:22:34.946 --> 00:22:37.957 There are actually a lot of groups like this worldwide. 00:22:38.273 --> 00:22:43.795 For example, we are now part of the GIG, the Global Innovation Gathering which are 00:22:43.795 --> 00:22:45.714 50 maker spaces all over the world. 00:22:46.363 --> 00:22:49.903 There are small organizations that are really interesting. 00:22:50.758 --> 00:22:56.896 The problem is, it's hard to find your space in this humanitarian world 00:22:56.896 --> 00:23:01.893 because big organizations really close down the access to this, 00:23:01.893 --> 00:23:04.968 the access to big amounts of money, 00:23:04.968 --> 00:23:10.791 so contacts are always welcome because I think we can only reach something 00:23:10.994 --> 00:23:14.937 if we form better and bigger networks. 00:23:23.100 --> 00:23:29.523 [Q] In areas of crisis, and especially in war, it's hard to understand 00:23:29.523 --> 00:23:35.249 which interests are on which side or are there any goods in this. 00:23:35.494 --> 00:23:37.891 How to you avoid to become a useful idiot? 00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:41.958 [A] I think… 00:23:47.159 --> 00:23:52.001 I don't avoid it and humanitarians are a kind of useful idiots. 00:23:52.689 --> 00:23:56.266 In the humanitarian sector, there are two main pictures about 00:23:56.266 --> 00:23:57.772 humanitarian aid. 00:23:58.214 --> 00:24:01.926 It was Henri Dunant who founded the red cross, who said like 00:24:01.926 --> 00:24:07.656 "Yes, there is a war. Yes, obviously these are assholes that shoot at each other 00:24:07.656 --> 00:24:09.892 but in the end they're humans. 00:24:10.214 --> 00:24:13.470 So once they're laying down on the floor, they deserve to be treated like humans. 00:24:13.470 --> 00:24:17.247 I know that if I treat him and he's fit again, 00:24:17.247 --> 00:24:19.236 perhaps he goes out again and shoots again." 00:24:20.170 --> 00:24:24.031 And there was the other person, Florence Nightingale at the same time. 00:24:24.356 --> 00:24:28.137 She said, like, "Humanitarian aid should mean 'only these people 00:24:28.137 --> 00:24:33.376 get humanitarian aid who bond themselves to these humanitarian principles'. 00:24:33.904 --> 00:24:37.763 So, a soldier that got shot down, I won't treat him if I'm not sure 00:24:37.763 --> 00:24:38.980 that he won't go out again." 00:24:41.373 --> 00:24:47.148 In the meanwhile, I think the humanitarian world stuck totally to the model of Dunant 00:24:47.148 --> 00:24:48.847 and for us it's the same. 00:24:49.100 --> 00:24:52.227 I treated people who fought for ISIS in Mossoul definitely. 00:24:53.534 --> 00:24:57.068 Because in my opinion, if I go there and say 00:24:57.068 --> 00:25:04.304 "I am the medic and the judge at the same time", then it's really strange. 00:25:04.791 --> 00:25:07.956 There have to be other people to judge over this. 00:25:09.747 --> 00:25:14.164 As a humanitarian aid worker, you are little bit helpful idiot all the way. 00:25:15.661 --> 00:25:19.661 The other discussion is definitely a question about 00:25:19.661 --> 00:25:25.059 if humanitarian aid brings anything or if it's just like a machine 00:25:25.059 --> 00:25:28.440 that tries to run itself again and again and again… 00:25:29.009 --> 00:25:30.556 Like this help industry. 00:25:31.490 --> 00:25:36.441 This, we try to avoid with not playing after the same rules. 00:25:37.628 --> 00:25:41.039 We are not into, I don't know. 00:25:41.405 --> 00:25:46.564 Every 2 or 3 years there is a new theme that you have to surf. 00:25:46.897 --> 00:25:51.895 For example, now it's capacity building in war zones. 00:25:53.358 --> 00:25:57.260 We think it's pretty easy, we don't have to follow these rules of 00:25:57.260 --> 00:26:00.215 the humanitarian sector, the humanitarian market. 00:26:00.537 --> 00:26:04.407 We stuck with the humanitarian ideals and we always try to work together 00:26:04.407 --> 00:26:05.829 with the locals. 00:26:06.276 --> 00:26:09.759 And, yes, for sure, you always have locals who try to have their share 00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:13.872 out of these crises, but if you talk to the locals, talk to different locals 00:26:13.872 --> 00:26:18.102 several organizations together, you will see who's really working on the ground 00:26:18.102 --> 00:26:21.153 just to help the people and we try to support these. 00:26:22.573 --> 00:26:29.197 Like I said, we don't produce or develop solutions that we can sell. 00:26:29.512 --> 00:26:34.729 It's all open source, so I hope it helps to avoid a little bit 00:26:34.729 --> 00:26:37.196 to support the wrong people. 00:26:40.008 --> 00:26:41.754 Any further questions? 00:26:44.028 --> 00:26:48.166 [Q] Hi, awesome work. Have you considered 3D printing to maybe come up with 00:26:48.166 --> 00:26:49.876 spare parts or let… 00:26:49.876 --> 00:26:50.939 [A] Sorry, again? 00:26:50.939 --> 00:26:52.171 [Q] Have you considered 3D printing? 00:26:52.751 --> 00:26:56.974 [A] Yes, there are actually organizations who are doing this. 00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:01.522 There one really cool organization called Field Ready. 00:27:03.067 --> 00:27:06.971 They're developing a database with a lot of things like 00:27:06.971 --> 00:27:12.323 the small thing you need to stop the connection between a mother 00:27:12.323 --> 00:27:14.802 and a baby, I don't know what the name is in english. 00:27:15.293 --> 00:27:20.213 And they develop a database so that people can print these medical devices 00:27:20.213 --> 00:27:22.359 in disaster areas, that's pretty cool. 00:27:24.632 --> 00:27:28.041 At some moments, we tried, a few months ago 00:27:28.041 --> 00:27:31.796 to get our hands on 3D printers but then it's so expensive at the moment and 00:27:31.796 --> 00:27:36.997 we are just more experienced with metal and steel and stuff like that. 00:27:37.281 --> 00:27:43.625 But we looked into this and at the moment we're always doing too much unfortunately. 00:27:46.392 --> 00:27:50.122 I wanted to buy one and then our colleagues from CCC said 00:27:50.122 --> 00:27:53.455 "Don't do that, you're not clever enough", so… 00:27:55.201 --> 00:27:58.003 "You'll destroy it! Waste money!" 00:28:00.970 --> 00:28:02.915 But actually, for the tourniquet for example 00:28:02.915 --> 00:28:05.361 there is a solution as well for 3D printing. 00:28:05.642 --> 00:28:07.439 I just read an article a few days ago. 00:28:08.246 --> 00:28:13.083 I think 3D printing is a kind of… really close connected 00:28:13.083 --> 00:28:15.315 to the future of humanitarian aid, definitely. 00:28:18.441 --> 00:28:20.106 Any further questions? 00:28:27.583 --> 00:28:29.696 [Q] It's less question, more comment. 00:28:30.589 --> 00:28:35.916 Because you showed that we have these cool sexy solutions for technology 00:28:35.916 --> 00:28:40.309 for finding dogs and in less developed countries we have problems, but 00:28:40.309 --> 00:28:44.859 it's also, like, we have problems with disasters in all the world. 00:28:45.551 --> 00:28:49.080 Look at what happened in New Orleans, look at what is still happening 00:28:49.080 --> 00:28:53.266 in Puerto Rico, which is supposedly first world country, but has still 00:28:53.266 --> 00:28:55.130 problems with electricity. 00:28:55.576 --> 00:28:58.786 It's not that there are good countries and bad countries, but we have 00:28:58.786 --> 00:29:05.081 problems with all those global solutions to recover. 00:29:05.773 --> 00:29:12.107 I think that's a good approach to get local people to organize and 00:29:12.107 --> 00:29:15.075 to try to solve because they know what is needed most. 00:29:16.701 --> 00:29:19.226 [A] Totally. I think it's a fucked up thing about capitalism. 00:29:19.754 --> 00:29:23.005 If I live in a nice decent city like Hamburg and I have a dog, 00:29:23.005 --> 00:29:31.005 I will easily spend 10€ a month for an app to find my dog, but I don't relate 00:29:31.005 --> 00:29:35.235 to the thing that I could be on a zone rubbish as well, 00:29:35.235 --> 00:29:40.020 so I won't pay for a disaster app or something like that 00:29:40.020 --> 00:29:41.777 because it's not part of my daily life. 00:29:42.346 --> 00:29:45.192 So no company will be willing to develop something like this, 00:29:45.192 --> 00:29:47.181 it's just like the rules of the market. 00:29:47.628 --> 00:29:49.169 Silly but it is what it is. 00:29:53.030 --> 00:29:54.341 Thank you very much for your attention. 00:29:54.669 --> 00:29:56.212 Thanks a lot Sebastian again. 00:29:56.536 --> 00:30:01.096 [Applause]