1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 我寫有關食物同煮嘢嘅文章 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,000 我對呢件事好認真 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,000 但我響度想講一啲 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,000 呢兩年嚟對我嚟講好重要嘅嘢 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,000 呢樣嘢係有關食物嘅,但唔係講煮食本身 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,000 我先用一張好靚嘅母牛相做開場白 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 我唔係素食者…尼克遜成日都講呢句,係咪呀? 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,000 但我就覺得 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,000 (觀眾笑) 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 呢張可能係今年嘅版本 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,000 咁講只係有少少誇張啫 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,000 點解我咁講? 13 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,000 因為史上系依樣野之前只有一次,個人嘅命運 14 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,000 同全人類嘅命運 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000 有咁緊密相連過 16 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,000 以前係原子彈,而依家就係呢一刻 17 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,000 而我哋依家行嘅路唔單止決定 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,000 個人生命嘅質素同長短 19 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 仲決定一個世紀以後 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 我哋望返地球嗰陣,仲會唔會認得出佢 21 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,000 呢次某程度係一個大屠殺 22 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,000 而逃避並唔係辦法 23 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,000 我哋開始知道全球暖化 24 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,000 唔單止係真嘅,而且仲好危險 25 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,000 依家個個科學家都相信有全球暖化 26 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,000 就算布殊總統都話佢明白依個事實,又或者佢系扮明白 27 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,000 呢啲嘢可以係前提 28 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 咁大家請聽住 29 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,000 家畜係繼能源生產之後 30 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,000 第二大導致大氣層變化嘅氣體嘅生產者 31 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,000 近五分一嘅溫室氣體 32 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 係由畜牧產生 33 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,000 占嘅比重仲大過交通工具 34 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,000 任你想點用牛放屁嚟講笑都得 35 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,000 問題係甲烷比二氧化碳有毒二十倍 36 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 而且佢哋製造嘅唔止甲烷 37 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,000 生畜仲係土地退化,空氣、食水污染 38 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:46,000 食水短缺同生物多樣性降低嘅促成者 39 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,000 仲有 40 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,000 全國有一半嘅抗生素 41 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,000 唔係用響人度,係用咗響禽畜度 42 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,000 但呢啲清單聽得多會麻木,我只係想話 43 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 如果你走在時代尖端 44 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,000 如果你揸緊環保車,或者支持綠色消費 45 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 又或者你搵緊有機食物嚟食 46 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,000 咁你都應該係半素食嘅 47 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,000 係,我反對食牛肉,好似反原子彈咁樣 48 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,000 但我反對嘅係我哋人類用呢啲嘢嘅方式 49 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 你地都應該已經知道既 50 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,000 安古柏響尋日精彩嘅演講講到 51 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,000 呢個現象嘅其中一個構成部份 52 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,000 無容置疑,諗都唔駛諗,啲所謂都市病 53 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,000 好似糖尿病,心臟病,中風,某啲癌症 54 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,000 呢啲病響呢度 55 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,000 都比世界其他地方普遍 56 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,000 呢啲病係西方飲食嘅直接結果 57 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,000 我哋追求肉、奶製品、精製過嘅碳水化合物 58 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:46,000 全世界一日飲咗以億樽計嘅可樂 59 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,000 我哋對呢啲嘢嘅需求,唔係必需嘅,只係慾望 60 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,000 令我哋食咗太多卡路里 61 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,000 而呢啲卡路里唔會防止疾病,仲反而引起病痛 62 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,000 無人預計到有全球暖化 63 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,000 我哋唔知污染原來唔止令能見度差咗咁簡單 64 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 仲可能令人有一啲肺部嘅疾病 65 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,000 但你知道,呢啲都唔係咩大不了 66 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,000 重要係,依家嘅健康危機 67 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,000 比阻止邪惡帝國更加棘手 68 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,000 人哋同我哋講,向我哋保證 69 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,000 家畜、奶製品、家禽食得越多 70 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,000 我哋就會越健康 71 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,000 錯。唔駛講,過量攝取肉類同垃圾食物 72 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,000 而蔬果食得少之有少係個問題 73 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,000 今次無時間講食蔬果有乜好處 74 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,000 但我想講清楚,最重要係蔬菜本身 75 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,000 唔係蔬菜入面嘅成份,係菜本身 76 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,000 唔係B-胡蘿蔔素,係紅蘿蔔本身重要 77 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,000 證據好清楚咁顯示蔬菜促進健康 78 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,000 響呢方面嘅證據係不可置疑 79 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,000 食多啲蔬果,食少啲其他嘢,你就長命啲 80 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,000 聽落唔錯丫 81 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 講返肉食同垃圾食品 82 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 佢地有乜共通點? 83 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,000 第一,我哋唔駛為咗健康而食呢啲嘢 84 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,000 我哋唔需要肉類製品 85 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,000 當然我哋亦唔需要白麵包同可樂 86 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 第二,呢兩樣嘢都做好多推廣 87 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,000 製造唔自然嘅需求 88 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:15,000 我哋唔係生出嚟就淨食三文治或者彩虹糖 89 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,000 第三,呢啲食物嘅生產有政府機構支持 90 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,000 而且代價系取代左一種更健康、更環保嘅飲食方式 91 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,000 我哋一齊幻想下有對平行線 92 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,000 假設政府支持以石油經濟 93 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,000 又唔支持可持續發展嘅能源種類 94 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,000 而且佢知道後果會係 95 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 污染、戰爭、成本上升 96 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 不可思議呀呵? 97 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 但佢地係要咁做 98 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 佢哋就響度做呢啲嘢,係一樣㗎咋 99 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,000 可惜嘅係,講到飲食習慣 100 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 就算聯邦政府好心地咁 101 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,000 想為我哋撥亂反正,都衰咗 102 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,000 一係佢哋投票輸咗畀農業企業嘅傀儡 103 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 又或者佢哋就係農業企業嘅傀儡 104 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,000 所以當美國農業部最終承認 105 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,000 蔬果而唔係肉類令人健康之後 106 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,000 佢哋用過份簡化嘅食物金字塔去鼓勵我哋 107 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,000 每日食五份蔬果 108 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,000 同埋食多啲碳水化合物 109 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,000 佢哋無講嘅係有啲碳水化合物係好啲 110 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,000 而蔬果同全穀食物 111 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,000 應該取代晒垃圾食物 112 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,000 但業界嘅說客又點會畀呢啲嘢發生 113 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 你估下實情係點? 114 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,000 諗呢個食物金字塔嘅人入面有一半 115 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,000 同農業企業有關係 116 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,000 所以蔬菜唔單指無取代到肉 117 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,000 我哋吃肉嘅胃口反而越變越大 118 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,000 而當中對身體最危險嘅影響仍然無變 119 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,000 嗰啲所謂低脂飲食、低澱粉質飲食 120 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,000 都唔係解決方法 121 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,000 但好多聰明人 122 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,000 只著眼啲食物係咪有機或者本地嘅 123 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,000 或者係咪善待啲動物 124 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,000 但最重要嘅問題就無觸及到 125 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,000 唔好誤會 126 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,000 我好鍾意動物 127 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000 我唔認同將佢哋嘅生產過程工業化 128 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,000 粗製濫造啲肉類出嚟 129 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,000 但當你一年殺成百億動物嗰陣 130 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,000 就無辦法講點善待啲動物 131 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,000 呢個係我哋呢度嘅數字,一百億 132 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,000 如果將啲雞呀、牛呀、豬呀、羊呀 133 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,000 動物排成一列去月球 134 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 條隊由呢度到月球可以來回五次 135 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,000 我啲數學麻麻地,但系計依嘀都仲系夠用既 136 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,000 仲要視乎隻豬係四呎定五呎長 137 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,000 不過你明啦 138 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,000 呢個數淨係計美國入面咋喎 139 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,000 我哋過度食用呢啲肉類 140 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,000 產生咁多溫室氣體,引起咁多心臟疾病 141 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,000 呢啲慈悲似乎只係用嚟轉移視線 142 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,000 我哋殺咗啲動物,食咗佢哋 143 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,000 然後諗下要點樣對剩低嘅動物好啲 144 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,000 另一個煙幕可以用「土食主義者」做例子 145 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,000 呢個詞啱啱畀新牛津美語大辭典稱為本年度嘅風雲詞彙 146 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,000 講真㗎 147 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,000 土食主義者就係 148 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,000 一啲只食本土種植嘅食品嘅人 149 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,000 如果你住加州就無問題 150 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,000 但其他人嚟講就難度好高 151 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 響正統嘅食物金字塔 152 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 同時興嘅土食主義之間 153 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 大家有兩款版本點去食好啲 154 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 (笑) 155 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 但雙方都諗錯方向 156 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,000 第一款至少都想普及一啲,而第二款直頭係精英主義 157 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,000 我哋變成咁樣,就要由美國食物史講起 158 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000 而我依家帶你哋 159 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,000 好快咁睇下過去一百年係點 160 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,000 一百年前係點樣? 161 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,000 個個都係食本地生產嘅食物 162 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,000 運啲食物去第二度簡直妙想天開 163 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,000 每個屋企都有廚師,多數係由阿媽做埋 164 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,000 佢地買材料同煮嘢食 165 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,000 就好似你哋幻想中浪漫嘅歐洲咁樣 166 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,000 人造牛油未出現 167 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,000 其實人造牛油面世時 168 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,000 有幾個州份都通過話要佢哋染成粉紅色 169 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,000 等啲人知呢啲唔係真牛油 170 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,000 嗰陣都未有零食,到二十年代 171 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,000 發明家貝爾塞發明急凍技術,至有急凍食品 172 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,000 嗰陣無連鎖餐廳 173 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,000 得一嗰由本地人開畀鄰居嘅食肆 174 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 無人諗住要開多間分店 175 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,000 傳統飲食係聞所未聞,除非你本身係小數民族啦 176 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,000 啲花巧食物全部都係嚟自法國 177 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,000 講開又講,如果你記得七十年代 178 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,000 丹‧艾克洛德扮茱莉亞‧查爾德嘅話 179 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:31,000 睇到呢張圖你就知點解佢有咁嘅諗頭 180 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,000 (笑) 181 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,000 響茱莉亞出名之前 182 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 嗰陣都無乜人提倡飲食文化 183 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,000 食嘢就係食嘢 184 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,000 唔駛提倡啲乜嘢主義 185 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,000 嗰陣無市場推廣,無全國性品牌 186 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,000 維他命丸都未有 187 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,000 亦都無健康宣稱,連聯邦法例批准嘅都無 188 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,000 脂肪、澱粉質、蛋白質,都無分好壞,佢哋只係食物 189 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,000 你就只係食食物 190 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,000 好多時啲嘢食好少多過一個材料 191 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,000 因為佢哋本身就係材料 192 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 嗰陣未發明粟米片 193 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,000 (笑) 194 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,000 甜夾心餅、薯片、芝士醬,呢啲嘢都未有 195 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,000 當時金魚係游水(註:不是金魚餅) 196 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 (笑) 197 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,000 好難想像。嗰陣自己種嘢食,然後食種出嚟嘅嘢食 198 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,000 講多一次,佢哋食本地出產嘅食物 199 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,000 響紐約,聖誕節送橙好普遍 200 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,000 因為橙要由佛羅里達州運嚟 201 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,000 三十年代起,道路系統擴展 202 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,000 貨車取代鐵路 203 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000 新鮮食物開始越運越遠 204 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,000 橙響紐約變得唾手可得 205 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,000 南部同西部成為農業重鎮 206 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,000 其他地方嘅農地變成近郊 207 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,000 帶嚟嘅影響深遠,到處可見 208 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,000 家庭式農場嘅消失是其中一環 209 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,000 就好似從真正社區沒落 210 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 到夏天都難搵一個靚蕃茄咁 211 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,000 都係影響嘅一部份 212 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,000 最後加州出產太多食物,運都運唔晒 213 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,000 所以推廣罐頭和急凍食品在所必行 214 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 於是用方便嚟做賣點 215 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,000 呢啲食物以原女性主義嘅主婦作對象 216 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,000 等佢哋做少啲家務 217 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,000 我知道過咗大約四十五歲嘅觀眾 218 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,000 見到實流晒口水 219 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,000 (笑) 220 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,000 (掌聲) 221 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,000 如果有幅漢堡扒嘅圖片,你哋流多啲口水添,係咪? 222 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,000 (笑) 223 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000 雖然咁樣會做少咗家務 224 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,000 但亦會減少左我哋食嘅食物嘅種類 225 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,000 我地好多人成長嗰陣除咗有時食下生紅蘿蔔 226 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,000 或者生菜沙律之外,好少會食新鮮蔬果 227 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 以我為例,唔係講笑 228 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,000 到十九歲至食到真嘅菠菜同西蘭花 229 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,000 邊個需要食呢啲嘢呢?周圍都有肉食 230 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,000 有啲乜野比煎塊扒畀屋企人食更加 231 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,000 容易,飽肚、或健康? 232 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,000 嗰陣啲牛已經唔係用天然方法飼養 233 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,000 牛嘅胃系設計嚟食草既 234 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,000 但啲人硬系要迫佢食大豆同粟米 235 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,000 都唔由得佢食草 236 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,000 啲牛當然消化唔到啲穀物 237 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,000 但呢啲唔係生產者嘅間題 238 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,000 新嘅葯物會維持佢哋健康 239 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,000 應該話會令佢哋繼續生存 240 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,000 健唔健康係另一回事 241 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,000 多得農業補貼 242 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,000 呢啲農業企業同國會嘅微妙合作方式 243 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,000 大豆、粟米、牛隻大行其道 244 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,000 之後雞都加埋入去添 245 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,000 呢個時期就係 246 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,000 飲食同地球毀滅嘅循環開端 247 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,000 呢樣嘢到依家我哋至意識到 248 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,000 聽清楚 249 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:33,000 一九五零年至二千年之間,全球人口增加一倍 250 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,000 但系肉食攝取就增加五倍 251 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:42,000 咁實有啲人食咗多出黎既肉,所以我哋有左快餐 252 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,000 咁就徹底解釋咗呢個問題 253 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,000 響屋企煮嘢食都仲係普遍,但質素已經每況愈下 254 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,000 越來越少有屋企整嘅麵包、甜品同湯 255 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,000 因為全部呢啲嘢都可以響舖頭買到 256 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,000 唔係話買返嚟質素好啲,只不過係買就有得吃 257 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,000 大部份媽咪好似我阿媽咁煮飯 258 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,000 一塊烤肉,用樽裝沙律醬撈成嘅沙律 259 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,000 罐頭湯,罐頭生果沙律 260 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,000 可能有焗薯同薯蓉 261 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,000 又或者食史上最唔駛用腦嘅食物:即食飯 262 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,000 甜品就係響出面買嘅雪糕或者曲奇餅 263 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,000 我阿媽唔在場,我可以講你知 264 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,000 因為呢啲咁嘅廚藝驅使我去學煮嘢食畀自己 265 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,000 (笑) 266 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,000 都唔一定係壞事嚟嘅 267 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,000 七十年代,思想先進嘅人 268 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,000 開始意識到本地食材嘅價值 269 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,000 於是自己整個花園,對有機食品有興趣 270 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,000 我哋認識或者成為素食人士 271 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,000 我哋唔係做咗嬉皮士 272 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,000 有啲人仲仍然去幫襯好餐廳,學下點煮好餸 273 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:48,000 同時食物嘅生產過程變得工業化,叫工業化 274 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,000 可能因為畀人認為可以好似 275 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,000 塑膠咁系生產線到啤出嚟 276 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,000 食物獲得神奇或者有害嘅力量,甚至兩者都有 277 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,000 好多人對肥胖有恐懼 278 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,000 另一啲人當西蘭花係神咁拜 279 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,000 但好多時佢哋都唔食西蘭花 280 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,000 取而代之,西蘭花就連埋乳酪咁一齊賣 281 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,000 乳酪好似同西蘭花咁好 282 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,000 而事實上,業界銷售乳酪嗰陣 283 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,000 係將孔酪變到好似雪糕咁 284 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,000 同樣,睇下啲穀類果仁棒球場 285 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,000 以為呢啲嘢食會健康啲 286 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,000 但你睇返原料表 287 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,000 原來佢似朱古力棒多過以燕麥 288 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,000 好可惜,呢個時候家庭式晚餐就算唔係一命嗚呼 289 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,000 都已經進入昏迷狀態 290 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,000 嗰啲可以塞幾多就塞幾多大豆同粟米製品 291 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000 嘅增值食品 292 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,000 開始繁盛起嚟 293 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,000 睇下啲急凍雞塊 294 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,000 啲雞係用粟米餵大,啲肉同粟米製品 295 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,000 攪埋一齊,等佢大舊啲同黏得埋一齊 296 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,000 然後放入粟米油度炸 297 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,000 你只需要放入微波爐叮,有乜好過咁? 298 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 然後狼吞虎嚥咁食落肚 299 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,000 到七十年代,響屋企煮嘢食呢樣嘢己經到咗慘不忍睹嘅地步 300 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,000 一啲好似麥樂雞同叮叮食物 301 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 咁嘅高脂多調味料嘅食品 302 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,000 仲有其他我哋鍾意食嘅嘢 303 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,000 相比之下,起自家煮嘅 304 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,000 淡而無味嘅嘢食,呢類食物吸引人得多 305 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,000 同時,大量女性投入勞動市場 306 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,000 男人唔覺得煮嘢食重要到 307 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,000 要渠去做呢樣野 308 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,000 於是我哋依家薄餅就當一餐,微波爐叮嘢食當一餐 309 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,000 放任咁想吃就吃又系一餐, 310 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,000 自己照顧自己都系一餐,諸如此類 311 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,000 乜嘢食物獨當一面? 312 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,000 肉類,垃圾食物,芝士 313 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,000 呢啲嘢食都會拿你命 314 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,000 依家我哋大大聲要有機食品 315 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 係好事嚟嘅 316 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,000 證明啲事情其實會改變 317 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 依家響超市 318 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,000 甚至響快餐店都搵到有機食物 319 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,000 但有機食物都唔係答案 320 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,000 至少唔係好似依家咁界定有機 321 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,000 我問下你哋 322 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,000 啲三文魚食嘅係有機,但同天然飲食無關嘅飼料 323 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:02,000 又畀人養響窄窄嘅圍入面 324 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,000 響自己啲污糟嘢入面游水 325 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:11,000 呢啲養殖三文魚可以叫有機嗎? 326 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,000 又如果啲三文魚來自智利,響嗰度劏 327 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,000 然後運去五千哩外,釋放唔知幾多碳入大氣層 328 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,000 呢啲又點算有機? 329 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,000 我唔知道 330 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,000 當然呢啲魚運到美國前 331 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,000 用發泡膠包住 332 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,000 然後再用貨車運去幾百哩外 333 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:35,000 字面係有機,但精神上當然唔係有機 334 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,000 呢個就係各類人意見嘅交點 335 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,000 土食主義者,有機主義者,素食者 336 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,000 純素食者,美食家 337 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,000 仲有一啲純粹對好嘢食有興趣嘅人 338 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,000 雖然我哋出發點唔同 339 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 我哋全部要用自己知識 340 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,000 去改變他人對食物嘅諗法 341 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,000 我哋要開始行動 342 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,000 而且好以安古柏咁講,呢個唔單止關乎社會公義 343 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,000 而且佢講得啱 344 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000 呢個亦關乎全球嘅存亡 345 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:11,000 呢點帶到我去核心問題度 346 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,000 就係過度生產食物,過度攝取肉類同垃圾食物 347 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,000 我講過,百分之十八嘅溫室氣體 348 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,000 來自家畜 349 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,000 我哋要幾多家畜至製造到咁多氣體? 350 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,000 要用全球農業用地嘅七成 351 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:33,000 而地球三成陸地直接或間接咁 352 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,000 用咗黎養我哋食嘅生畜 353 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,000 預計四十年後仲要用多一倍地 354 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,000 如果個數目係來自中國 355 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,000 而中國好似依家咁 356 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000 唔駛四十年添 357 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,000 我想講,好似我咁成世人食唔少穀飼牛肉 358 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:55,000 其實無乜原因要好似我地咁食咁多肉 359 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,000 常見嘅論點係我哋需要營養 360 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,000 但其實我哋平均食落肚嘅蛋白質 361 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:06,000 甚至係偏幫企業嘅農業部所建議嘅兩倍 362 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,000 留心聽住,研究減少疾病嘅專家 363 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:16,000 建議成人每個禮拜只係食半磅肉 364 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,000 你估我哋一日食幾多肉?半磅 365 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,000 但我哋唔駛食肉就可以大隻啲,強壯啲咩? 366 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,000 乜食肉唔係健康必需嘅咩? 367 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,000 乜食得生果蔬菜多 368 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,000 唔會搞到我地變得邪惡、女人型、變成自由黨人咩? 369 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,000 (笑) 370 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,000 有啲人可能覺得食肉係好事 371 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:40,000 但就算我哋全部都係食咗類固醇嘅足球員 372 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,000 答案仍然係錯 373 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,000 其實,世界上無一種飲食方式 374 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,000 滿足到基本營養需要而唔促進健康 375 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,000 好多飲食方式比我哋依家嘅都更能令人健康 376 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,000 我哋食肉唔係為咗充足嘅營養 377 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:02,000 反而令我哋有另類嘅營養不足,係致命嘅 378 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,000 想為個人、人類嘅健康著想 379 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,000 建議美國人食少一半肉 380 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,000 減少呢個份量不足以起作用,但起碼係個開始 381 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:16,000 聽起上嚟好古怪,但除咗叫人食相對多返嘅蔬菜 382 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,000 但呢啲至係應該發生嘅 383 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,000 係思想先進嘅人,改革派嘅人 384 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,000 應該做,應該提倡嘅 385 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,000 我用雜食人士角度,或者有人話係不加批判咁 386 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,000 寫咗有關食物嘅文章差唔多卅年 387 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,000 響嗰段時間,我食咗 388 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,000 又推薦咗差唔多所有嘢食 389 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,000 我知道我唔會唔食肉 390 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,000 但我認為,為咗所有人嘅福祉 391 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,000 係時候唔好再用工業化方式飼養動物 392 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,000 唔好再無諗過就食肉 393 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,000 安古柏講得啱 394 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:55,000 農業部唔係我地盟友 395 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,000 我哋要落手落腳去做 396 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,000 唔單止為其他人支持好啲嘅飲食方式 397 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,000 困難嘅係要改善自己嘅飲食 398 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000 要做到呢樣嘢其實好易 399 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,000 食少啲肉、少啲垃圾食物,多啲食菜 400 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,000 好簡單嘅竅門,就係進食 401 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,000 食真正嘅食物 402 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,000 我哋可以繼續享受食物,繼續食得好 403 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,000 而且可以食得更有益 404 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,000 仲可以繼續尋找鍾意嘅食材 405 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:27,000 繼續係我哋喜愛嘅餐點編寫故事 406 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,000 我哋唔單止要減少進食卡路里,仲要減少碳足印 407 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,000 我哋可以令食物更重要,而唔係令食物唔再受人重視 408 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,000 而且咁做可以教到我哋 409 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,000 我哋要揀呢條路去行啦 410 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,000 多謝