1 00:00:01,159 --> 00:00:05,320 ♪ soft uplifting music ♪ 2 00:00:17,377 --> 00:00:22,839 ♪ ethereal ambient music ♪ 3 00:00:25,439 --> 00:00:31,859 [Amy Sherald] I really have this deep belief that images can change the world 4 00:00:31,859 --> 00:00:36,840 it's not that I started making work with that belief but it's what I've come to 5 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,197 know 6 00:00:41,052 --> 00:00:48,154 ♪♪♪ 7 00:00:48,154 --> 00:00:51,810 It's a beautiful way to tell a story 8 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:07,730 ♪♪♪ 9 00:01:09,659 --> 00:01:12,600 I consider myself an American realist 10 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,478 For me it means just recognizing my Americanness first, 11 00:01:17,478 --> 00:01:22,298 and just wanting the work to join a greater ongoing conversation. 12 00:01:22,298 --> 00:01:27,465 Edward Hopper or Andy Wyeth they're telling these American stories 13 00:01:27,621 --> 00:01:30,790 and I'm also telling American stories 14 00:01:32,426 --> 00:01:34,683 ♪♪♪ 15 00:01:34,683 --> 00:01:38,100 [Man Announcer] Miss Amy Sherald, portrait artist. 16 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:41,728 [Woman Announcer] Last week, Amy Sherald went from being a virtual unknown 17 00:01:41,728 --> 00:01:44,826 to one of the most talked about artists in the world 18 00:01:45,649 --> 00:01:48,111 On Monday, her painting of Michelle Obama 19 00:01:48,119 --> 00:01:52,613 was unveiled alongside Kehinde Wiley's portrait of President Barack Obama 20 00:01:52,613 --> 00:01:56,233 Both Sherald and Wiley were interviewed and chosen for the job 21 00:01:56,233 --> 00:01:58,008 by the Obamas themselves... 22 00:01:58,579 --> 00:02:03,190 [Amy] I wanted to paint a quiet and Powerful portrait of her that 23 00:02:03,190 --> 00:02:07,888 offered the viewer a different kind of moment. 24 00:02:07,888 --> 00:02:09,840 ♪ sensitive piano music ♪ 25 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,980 And make it truly about her and not about 26 00:02:13,980 --> 00:02:17,058 the "First Lady" title. 27 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,050 And making everyone feel the way that she makes people feel in person, 28 00:02:24,050 --> 00:02:26,094 which is like she's very relatable. 29 00:02:27,081 --> 00:02:31,034 When they look at Michelle, they can see themselves. 30 00:02:31,034 --> 00:02:34,614 By being herself, she gives us permission to be our full selves. 31 00:02:35,782 --> 00:02:41,132 ♪♪♪ 32 00:02:42,271 --> 00:02:47,118 It just so happens that painting Black people 33 00:02:47,118 --> 00:02:48,896 is kind of political. 34 00:02:49,701 --> 00:02:53,071 But these figures hanging on museum walls, 35 00:02:53,071 --> 00:02:54,970 it's more than just that; 36 00:02:54,970 --> 00:02:57,503 you know, it's more than just the corrective narrative. 37 00:02:58,541 --> 00:03:03,880 It's gotta be about humanity first, and then everything else has to follow. 38 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,659 ♪♪♪ 39 00:03:06,780 --> 00:03:12,295 The decision to paint the skin in gray, when I first started making this work 40 00:03:12,295 --> 00:03:15,853 I think I had an anxiety about the work being marginalized 41 00:03:15,853 --> 00:03:18,937 and the conversation solely being about identity. 42 00:03:19,223 --> 00:03:22,668 This was something that I wasn't trying to escape necessarily, 43 00:03:22,668 --> 00:03:26,368 but I wanted the work to be bigger than that. 44 00:03:26,887 --> 00:03:32,450 I started to think of it as a way to allow the viewer to have 45 00:03:32,450 --> 00:03:36,022 an experience that was not about race first. 46 00:03:38,220 --> 00:03:42,340 These paintings, for me, are really about our interior lives. 47 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,126 [birds chirping] [sprinkler ticking] 48 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,473 [Geraldine] Well, this is Amy. It's not a large one, but that's Amy, 49 00:03:55,473 --> 00:03:57,886 and I'm trying to think of her age at the time. 50 00:03:58,042 --> 00:04:00,826 [Amy] Six or seven, maybe second grade. 51 00:04:01,260 --> 00:04:03,883 And then this is all of my siblings. 52 00:04:03,883 --> 00:04:05,882 [Geraldine] Yeah, Amy was the bossy one. 53 00:04:05,882 --> 00:04:07,672 [laughter] 54 00:04:07,672 --> 00:04:09,126 [Amy] That's funny. 55 00:04:09,503 --> 00:04:11,099 [Geraldine] She wanted to be an artist and, of course, 56 00:04:11,099 --> 00:04:14,045 I would always say, "I don't want a starving artist. 57 00:04:14,045 --> 00:04:18,280 You can be a doctor, a lawyer, anything better than an artist. 58 00:04:18,280 --> 00:04:19,465 Do your art on the side." 59 00:04:19,465 --> 00:04:21,621 But she was determined to be an artist. 60 00:04:22,666 --> 00:04:26,109 [Amy] Yeah, and this is my mom when she was 19. 61 00:04:26,446 --> 00:04:27,809 [Geraldine] High school. 62 00:04:27,809 --> 00:04:29,940 ♪ sensitive piano music ♪ 63 00:04:29,940 --> 00:04:34,714 Having these here for me was the opportunity to understand my 64 00:04:34,714 --> 00:04:36,756 history and where I come from. 65 00:04:36,756 --> 00:04:38,885 And after using the gray scale painting, 66 00:04:38,885 --> 00:04:42,491 I really started to think about these images that I had growing up. 67 00:04:42,751 --> 00:04:44,440 ♪♪♪ 68 00:04:44,827 --> 00:04:48,736 I was always drawn to the photograph of my grandmother, Jewel 69 00:04:49,022 --> 00:04:51,045 I just think photographs from this time, 70 00:04:51,045 --> 00:04:55,080 that eyes really tell a story like you can really feel who they were in that 71 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,460 moment, and I think that's what really draws me to black and white photography 72 00:04:59,460 --> 00:05:04,614 is because it's so special and saturated with so much emotional energy. 73 00:05:04,614 --> 00:05:10,860 Looking at her picture, I saw a woman who was dignified, who represented herself 74 00:05:10,860 --> 00:05:15,702 in a way that influenced how I wanted to be represented in the world as well. 75 00:05:17,820 --> 00:05:24,709 I don't think I realized that I was missing seeing imagery of myself in art history. 76 00:05:24,865 --> 00:05:30,600 It wasn't until I came across a painting that actually had a person of 77 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,069 color in it — a Black person — that I realized that 78 00:05:33,069 --> 00:05:34,834 I had never seen that before. 79 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,066 ♪♪♪ 80 00:05:40,066 --> 00:05:43,298 As a sixth grader, my first time going to a museum, 81 00:05:43,506 --> 00:05:45,849 when I saw this painting by Bo Bartlett, 82 00:05:45,849 --> 00:05:50,000 I was shocked that I was looking at a figure of a Black man. 83 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,957 He was standing in front of a house, 84 00:05:51,957 --> 00:05:55,468 he had on a belt that had, like, some handyman stuff. 85 00:05:55,883 --> 00:05:59,310 I just remember standing there for a few minutes, 86 00:05:59,310 --> 00:06:03,392 and I realized when I saw that work that I wanted to make paintings like that. 87 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,558 I was able to see my future in that moment. 88 00:06:09,060 --> 00:06:15,000 So this is my childhood bedroom, and it's pretty much exactly as I left it 89 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,259 when I moved to Atlanta to go to Clark Atlanta University. 90 00:06:19,259 --> 00:06:20,983 I didn't have the kind of mom that, like, 91 00:06:20,983 --> 00:06:23,370 let us put posters up in our room or anything like that; 92 00:06:23,370 --> 00:06:27,545 like, everything had to be just like this when I left to go to school. 93 00:06:27,545 --> 00:06:30,419 ♪ smooth jazzy music ♪ 94 00:06:30,419 --> 00:06:37,751 I waited tables from the time I was 25 until I was about 37. 95 00:06:37,751 --> 00:06:40,195 ♪♪♪ 96 00:06:40,195 --> 00:06:41,584 I kept painting. 97 00:06:41,584 --> 00:06:45,780 I was trying to figure out where I fit in and what my voice would be, 98 00:06:45,780 --> 00:06:54,040 and in my mind I was like, "Well, I don't see just paintings of Black people just being Black." 99 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,513 Like, we're just here, we're living our lives, 100 00:06:57,513 --> 00:07:00,653 hanging out, just being ourselves. 101 00:07:08,388 --> 00:07:20,343 ♪♪♪ 102 00:07:23,699 --> 00:07:27,341 Post grad school, I run into this model who was, like, 103 00:07:27,341 --> 00:07:30,799 a six-one, young Black woman, 104 00:07:30,799 --> 00:07:35,000 and I asked her if she would come and allow me to take a picture of her. 105 00:07:35,286 --> 00:07:40,680 She had on a pink shirt that had white polka dots on it and a big bow tie. 106 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,460 She's standing there with her arms dropped down to her side, 107 00:07:44,460 --> 00:07:48,592 her gaze meeting the viewer, and she looks a little bit 108 00:07:48,592 --> 00:07:51,464 uncomfortable, a little bit awkward. 109 00:07:51,464 --> 00:07:53,080 She, in that moment, stood there as, like, 110 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,188 everything that I wanted to represent. 111 00:07:55,188 --> 00:07:59,737 She was fully herself in this out-of-the-box kind of way. 112 00:08:00,438 --> 00:08:03,482 That painting was a seminal piece for me because it really 113 00:08:03,482 --> 00:08:07,307 solidified in my mind, like, what exactly I was doing. 114 00:08:07,307 --> 00:08:13,264 I wanted to make images that told stories like this. 115 00:08:15,263 --> 00:08:18,218 I started finding the models that I wanted to find, 116 00:08:18,218 --> 00:08:21,538 creating these different narratives and scenarios that 117 00:08:21,538 --> 00:08:24,070 wanted to see exist in the world. 118 00:08:24,070 --> 00:08:26,984 ♪♪♪ 119 00:08:28,723 --> 00:08:30,204 [Amy] Hi, guys! 120 00:08:31,606 --> 00:08:32,106 — Hi! 121 00:08:32,391 --> 00:08:33,624 — How are you? 122 00:08:33,624 --> 00:08:34,844 Very nice to meet you. 123 00:08:34,844 --> 00:08:36,486 [Amy] Nice to meet you. — Nice to meet you too. 124 00:08:36,486 --> 00:08:37,383 [Amy] Oh... 125 00:08:37,539 --> 00:08:39,071 [Amy] Hi. — Hi, very nice to meet you. 126 00:08:39,071 --> 00:08:41,399 [Amy] Nice to meet you. Thank you for doing this. 127 00:08:41,555 --> 00:08:43,254 [Amy] You're a medium? 128 00:08:43,254 --> 00:08:44,520 — Yep, yes. 129 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,079 [Amy] All right, let's head down. 130 00:08:46,079 --> 00:08:48,467 I just gotta get a visual of what this is gonna look like. 131 00:08:48,467 --> 00:08:49,585 I kinda... 132 00:08:50,415 --> 00:08:54,038 My process is that I find the painting, like... 133 00:08:54,038 --> 00:08:56,063 You know, we're gonna do a lot of different poses. 134 00:08:56,063 --> 00:08:56,976 — Cool. 135 00:08:57,989 --> 00:09:01,215 [Amy] Let's give it a shot and see how it goes. 136 00:09:01,215 --> 00:09:02,798 — Like this? 137 00:09:04,381 --> 00:09:06,036 And then just like that. 138 00:09:06,036 --> 00:09:07,107 [Amy] Yup. 139 00:09:07,107 --> 00:09:09,106 And then move this foot up just a couple of inches. 140 00:09:09,106 --> 00:09:11,293 — I did. [Amy] Oh, there we go. 141 00:09:17,366 --> 00:09:18,254 [beep] 142 00:09:19,620 --> 00:09:22,575 Okay, Raj, look at him in his eyes. 143 00:09:24,651 --> 00:09:27,330 [beep] [camera snap] 144 00:09:27,330 --> 00:09:30,360 ♪ curious ambient music ♪ 145 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,955 Photography is the beginning of the painting. 146 00:09:33,955 --> 00:09:39,959 It's how I begin to search for what I want in the work. 147 00:09:40,296 --> 00:09:44,556 I let the models feel their way through what's happening, 148 00:09:44,556 --> 00:09:48,684 and then each pose, I try to 149 00:09:48,684 --> 00:09:52,418 adjust to find exactly what I'm looking for, 150 00:09:52,833 --> 00:09:54,452 what the painting is going to be like. 151 00:09:54,452 --> 00:09:55,859 What is it going to feel like? 152 00:09:55,859 --> 00:09:58,195 Are the colors right? Are positions right? 153 00:09:58,195 --> 00:09:59,572 — All right, we're shooting. 154 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,079 I rely on the organic in my work; like, I try not to over-plan, 155 00:10:05,390 --> 00:10:10,000 I just go in with my antennas up, looking for the right moments 156 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,361 and waiting for that synergy to build between the models. 157 00:10:15,560 --> 00:10:21,240 And I leave the photo session with exactly the image that I'm going to work 158 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,020 with, so it's almost like it's my sketchbook. 159 00:10:24,357 --> 00:10:25,245 — That's amazing. 160 00:10:26,102 --> 00:10:26,660 That's good. 161 00:10:26,660 --> 00:10:27,542 [laughter] 162 00:10:27,542 --> 00:10:31,080 — This is perfect 'cause the way your noses are, everything is great. 163 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,940 ♪♪♪ 164 00:10:32,940 --> 00:10:38,880 [Amy] I have been looking at a lot of photographs of iconic American moments 165 00:10:39,062 --> 00:10:44,097 and reconsidering them and reimagining them. 166 00:10:44,279 --> 00:10:48,532 And so I came across the image from the V Day kiss, 167 00:10:48,532 --> 00:10:51,208 and then I thought, "It would be wonderful if I could recreate 168 00:10:51,208 --> 00:10:53,675 this image but with two men." 169 00:10:54,660 --> 00:10:57,831 When I think about who's going to be represented in my work, 170 00:10:57,831 --> 00:10:59,807 I think it speaks to the moment. 171 00:11:03,959 --> 00:11:06,689 [Woman Newscaster] This morning, the family of a Kentucky woman shot 172 00:11:06,689 --> 00:11:09,471 and killed by police is demanding answers, 173 00:11:09,471 --> 00:11:12,800 filing a wrongful death lawsuit against three officers, 174 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,944 Breonna Taylor's family claiming officers blindly fired more than 175 00:11:16,944 --> 00:11:19,806 20 shots into her apartment two months ago. 176 00:11:19,806 --> 00:11:22,200 On March 13th, three officers entered... 177 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,000 [Amy] Breonna Taylor was an all-American girl from an 178 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,005 all-American family. 179 00:11:28,192 --> 00:11:31,249 Her mom told me that she was a girly girl 180 00:11:31,249 --> 00:11:33,414 and she liked to get dressed up. 181 00:11:33,700 --> 00:11:36,842 And it was really heartbreaking for me to realize that it was 182 00:11:36,842 --> 00:11:38,950 also a love story, 183 00:11:38,950 --> 00:11:43,364 that her boyfriend at the time was going to propose to her, 184 00:11:43,364 --> 00:11:45,395 like, within weeks of that happening, 185 00:11:45,395 --> 00:11:48,270 so then I wanted to include the engagement ring. 186 00:11:50,217 --> 00:11:57,155 And all of these things clued me in to how I felt like she would 187 00:11:57,155 --> 00:12:01,262 possibly want to be represented on the cover of a magazine. 188 00:12:01,262 --> 00:12:04,140 ♪ emotional music ♪ 189 00:12:04,140 --> 00:12:07,835 I painted it for her family so that when they look at this image, 190 00:12:07,835 --> 00:12:09,221 they see the whole story. 191 00:12:09,870 --> 00:12:13,751 I think that we deserved a whole picture of her life. 192 00:12:15,127 --> 00:12:19,561 After the cover came out, the work was co-acquired by her 193 00:12:19,561 --> 00:12:21,720 hometown museum, which is The Speed, 194 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,447 but then also the Smithsonian African-American Museum of History and Culture. 195 00:12:26,447 --> 00:12:30,410 I thought that it was important for it to be in line-of-sight of the 196 00:12:30,410 --> 00:12:33,191 government in Washington DC. 197 00:12:50,399 --> 00:12:56,639 I just started having the space to make paintings this large. 198 00:12:56,639 --> 00:13:01,139 It's a dream come true; it's the dream that I had when I was in high school 199 00:13:01,139 --> 00:13:06,863 when I realized that artists had big studios and made huge paintings. 200 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,279 Sometimes, it feels surreal to walk in here and just see the work 201 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:15,912 that I've made and see the work that I'm making. 202 00:13:17,399 --> 00:13:22,573 For most of my life, it was something that I was striving for. 203 00:13:24,478 --> 00:13:29,567 ♪ uplifting ethereal music ♪ 204 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,000 When I look back at my life, it seems fairly orchestrated, 205 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,558 these kind of moments that push you forward. 206 00:14:02,558 --> 00:14:04,771 I just feel lucky that I listened to my heart and 207 00:14:04,771 --> 00:14:07,290 listened to whatever my intuition said; 208 00:14:07,290 --> 00:14:09,185 I was like, "I'm gonna do that." 209 00:14:09,185 --> 00:14:11,072 I was told by somebody in my life, 210 00:14:11,072 --> 00:14:14,012 "Don't listen to criticism and don't listen to praise. 211 00:14:14,012 --> 00:14:16,825 Just do what you do." 212 00:14:21,300 --> 00:14:31,820 ♪♪♪ 213 00:14:34,857 --> 00:14:39,118 ♪ ethereal ambient music ♪