We, of course, have the slogan "Victory or martyrdom."
They have the slogan "Victory or Egypt." (Nasr au Masr)
Bu Shena ("Mr Fez" = Mustafa Abdeljalil) is 75 years old
We decided a long time ago to eliminate him. Elimination [unclear]. I mean, there was no hope in him.
He's very poor.
These are the people they have on their side.
Why would the Uhaishi area or the Majori area come out in a demonstrations with the green flag?
Weren't they all about "revolution" and discontented, and the revolution of the youth?
And then, what youth, Mr Fez is 75 years old, and the other one...
We won't raise the white flag. We won't surrender. The ceasefire won't happen. Until Libya returns to how it was.
Room by room, alley by alley.
Didn't he go to Obama and ask for 5 billion? They're in need.
We, of course, have the slogan "Victory or martyrdom."
They have the slogan "Victory or Egypt." (an-Nasr au Masr)
Speaker: I found someone with a box in front like a pregnant woman, begging for alms.
Saif: Who?
Speaker: Those people in Tunis. The rats.
Saif: By the way, since we're speaking about the rats
There's an Italian man, the first to enter Benghazi on the 20th of February
I mean, the first one [to enter]
So he spoke to me about them. I asked him to tell me.
So he said, "I was in the Uzu hotel." He said, when the army entered, he said the first thing
was that there was no paint in the city. Everyone was painting the Angola flag.
It looks like the Angolan flag.
off camera: "They've named it the melon, red and green"
Saif: You see, the Egypt guy, what's his name, their military commander
Off camera: Tantawi
He said: What's Pakistan's flag doing here?
A new flag, that looks like Pakistan's.
So he [Italian] said, they started painting and there was one person with a sticker of the flag on the glass [of the car]
which wouldn't be removed, whatever he did. So in the end he reversed and broke it.
He said "Better break the glass rather than [unclear]"
He swore to me and he said, my Italian friend
he told me all the members of the council and all the rats
he said, they all fled, and some reached Egypt and some hid in Tobruk
he said they didn't return until after a week
Even after the American and French and the NATO bombing
They stayed a whole week hidden away scared
Anyway, as for the eastern region, this region was kidnapped by criminals
Like a hijacked airplane
Have you ever heard of a hijacked plane being considered the property of the hijackers?
We are returning to Barga [Cyrenaica]
You know we are returning to Benghazi
There is no discussion there
This is a red line. Libya's unity cannot be let go
NATO or the devil, this is not up for discussion, even if all of Libya dies. Anyway
The main reason for the meeting
to be clear, what is happening in Libya now, Libya has changed
Libya has changed and won't return to how it was, ever, and it is impossible that it will return
Libya in the past
Off camera: Glad tidings, God willing
Of course, but what is in the past can't return
once bitten twice shy [lit. the believer is not stung from the same den twice]
Firstly, I was responsible for this period. I brought all these people and gave them power
The whole council, I brought them
They used to go around penniless, with nothing
I brought them in and gave them jobs
Because I used to believe Libya was for all, the country was for all, and that in Libya we are all equals
Even the Italian journalist, I remember, said there was a Libyan who told him
"All the destruction in Libya is Saif al Islam's fault"
He said, I asked him "Why?" He said: "Because he brought these people and he created this atmosphere of reconciliation
and this is the reason for this."
Off camera: I don't know who said it
Saif: I mean, we saw Libyans saying takbir, and women ululating for the rockets and planes of the Christians hitting us
We saw a Libyan saying "Thank God for the NATO, and carry on striking NATO."
We saw a Libyan who goes out from morning to night, and his job is to get co-ordinates of sites where his brothers are
We've seen all this, and we saw it in 1911 and after, after the Italian colonialism, the agents and the mercenaries and traitors
and Mussolini came to them and they called him Saif al Islam or Saif al Haq or something [Sword of Islam/Truth]
and there was poetry for him and they came up with names for Mussolini
These same people have returned after 100 years
In the future... in the beginning we said "We're all equal, we're all alike and Libya is for all."
But what happened? Those I returned with from abroad, changed from a gentle lamb to a poisonous snake
The first person to bite was him, the same person who used to read the Fatiha for you came up on TV with his hand raised against you
The one who was nothing, wandering outside [the country]
and I brought him and told him it's your right, this is your country
He was the first to deal with the enemy, with the Christians, with the Jews
and lastly, they brought us a Zionist Jew
there are Jews that aren't Zionists
A Zionist, and they told him, you rule Libya
Then, in the future, this is my opinion, and you of course will agree with me, I don't think we should have this equality
I don't think it's a future, as it brought Bernard Lévy and brought the Jews and Christians
and tomorrow he tells me "we'll sit equal and I have a right in the oil, just like you, and a right in power
and this is my country." No, go elsewhere [lit. God open (other opportunities) for you]
Then, this is finished. This is finished.
The matter of equality in Libya is finished, forever.
There will be no equality in Libya
In Libya now there are levels (different statuses)
Even with God, the believers have levels
Those who fought and spent money are not like those who...
And so, there are tribes and areas in Libya which, I won't say defended the Leader and the Revolution
No, they were the first to defend the country and our nation
We in the end defend our country and our families, as Libyans
Yes, Libyans, but there is an A and a B [different statuses]
This is a truth
Or you who was one who was one of the rats, a big rat, and I, a warrior and we have martyrs, are equal
Or why has God created heaven and hellfire?
Off camera: Doctor...
And so, in the future, Libya, it's wealth and it's oil and it's money, and the rule in it is for the people who are now fighting for the sake of Libya and who paid the price
Off camera: We are steadfast
Those who went...I tell you something, we will work to make sure, and this is recorded from me, in Libya it must be like what happened in Algeria
In Algeria, after the independence war was victorious over the imperialist Italian colonialism
by the way Bernard Lévy is one of the French colonialists who was in Algeria
When the French left, 100s of thousands of Algerian left with them, they are now in France
They have whole towns they live in, these are the traitors and the agents of the French
When they went to the Algerians, they said we are fighting and liberating and you were agents
and now when Algeria is independent, you want to come and share it? No, you were with France, go to your France
The traitors can go live in Doha, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Paris, London, anywhere. No problem. Sydney, Monte Carlo. But Libya, no.
Stay over there, you have no place here.
Now Shalgam, the conspiracy he created, which led to hundreds of Libyans dying in the strikes
Tomorrow Shalgam will come and say I'm a Libyan, I want to live...yesterday he said
I will put myself up for elections in Libya
Anyway
Now Shalgam wants to return and be a Libyan citizen. No way.
After the victory, we will do exactly like Algeria
Off camera: hunt them
NATO leaves and the rats leave with them
All the rats got to NATO, Qatar, UAE, Jordan and no more Libya
There is a Sheikh called Gheriani. I told them to put him on the broadcast and let him talk and stuff
What breaks wudu, and the woman who wants to divorce, and the woman who wants to marry and so on, stuff that has nothing to do with politics
I said...he's actually al Alam (not Gheriani) Sadeq al Alam
His grandfather is Libya's old mufti
Who was he? The one Mussolini used
The one who told him: rule as the fates decree, for you alone are the vanquisher [line of poetry]
He made Mussolini like God
This is the grandfather of this Gheriani
Anyway, what I want to tell you is, so Libya in the future is for the people who died for it, who sacrificed for it, who fought for it
Libya is for them, the oil, and the petrol and the rule, this is our country, we died for it
and those who went to NATO and Qatar and over there, go over there
as for Libya, those people have no place in it anymore
Thus, there are areas which are our base, as you said
From the first day they stood up, they picked up arms, they fought, they resisted, they died
these areas...now Libya is segregated, there are areas which are half-and-half, and areas which are with us 100%
from the first day, they took their decision
Now, Libya will build a new army and a new police
and build a new order
We will begin with those closest to us [ie the most loyal to the regime] like the Igilat area
We have volunteers, to bring out all the people who want to volunteer and to fight
Today you volunteer, but tomorrow you will have your wage and your job
in the Libyan armed forces
Because our army in the future will be made up of specific tribes, specific areas