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Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.26,0:00:06.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,KEN WEBSTER\N一股财富或是财富的流量？
Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.35,0:00:09.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,在过去的七年里，\N发展循环经济不知从何冒了出来。
Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.51,0:00:12.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,欧盟将发展循环经济包装了，*
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.13,0:00:15.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,世界经济论坛也正为之努力，
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.04,0:00:17.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,各城市及政府也对之赋予厚望。
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.95,0:00:21.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,最近在赫尔辛基举办的会议中，
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.33,0:00:24.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,有着90个国家以及接近1700个代表
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.41,0:00:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,在一连几天中看待着发展循环经济。
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.54,0:00:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,这很令人感到兴奋。
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.95,0:00:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,在学术界中，目前有着上百篇论文
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.28,0:00:34.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,还有更多将会接踵而来。
Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.70,0:00:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,它进入了教育界，尤其是商业学和工程学内。
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.100,0:00:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我想问题是
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.50,0:00:45.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,发展循环经济中的那一点让它成为那么的有吸引力呢？
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.45,0:00:52.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我想我们需要回到经济学的基础。
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.25,0:00:55.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,它问三个问题，真的。
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.29,0:00:58.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,它问：要生产什么呢？如何生产？
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.43,0:01:00.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,谁会从中受益？
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.85,0:01:05.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,它不止有着三个问题，它有着三大要素。
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.45,0:01:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,每个经济都有物质流动、能量流动
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.16,0:01:12.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,以及信息流动--尤其是金钱。
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.04,0:01:18.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,如果你读课本，它们有着一张，
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.17,0:01:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,几乎是中央暖气系统的图片。
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.85,0:01:23.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,它有着两个部分：
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.49,0:01:26.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,家庭与公司，资本与劳工。
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.82,0:01:28.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,金钱在两者间流动。
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.68,0:01:33.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,工资被支付、物品被生产、收入回到公司。
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.81,0:01:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,那相当地简单。
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.30,0:01:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,还有，政府收税并出钱。
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.82,0:01:43.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,再加上银行--
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.14,0:01:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,它们是确保存款以投资的形式
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.64,0:01:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,被有效地置入回经济中的中间人。
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.90,0:01:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,它好比管道系统，而那是许多人对它的见解。
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.56,0:02:01.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,再加上，从长远来看
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.30,0:02:04.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,它有着一种将会处于均衡的感觉。
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.06,0:02:07.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,在任何可能的世界中，\N若经济正有效地运行，
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.58,0:02:10.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,所有事物都将在其最佳状态。
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.21,0:02:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而那几乎是经济的故事：
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.32,0:02:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,将它变得高效率、让它运行、
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.28,0:02:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,只要你不插手，它将会自行解决。
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.19,0:02:25.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,德·罗斯纳是个早期系统思维家。
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.05,0:02:28.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,德·罗斯纳想要刻画
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.57,0:02:32.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,目前的经济以及它所有的问题。
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.98,0:02:36.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而他辨认出的主要问题就是缺乏环境。
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.42,0:02:39.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,这个经济运行的方式犹如
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.97,0:02:44.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,被置放在货物以及资源和能源流动之上的机器。
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.82,0:02:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,它只会触及它需触及的地方。
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.09,0:02:54.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我想表达的是它并没有被作为考虑的因素。
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.62,0:02:58.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,实际上资源是无成本的。
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.41,0:03:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,实际上耗损是无成本的。
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.24,0:03:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,它是被人工标价的。
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.38,0:03:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,所有东西都有其价格，
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.58,0:03:09.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但他们并不知道他想表达的是价值。
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.03,0:03:14.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,所以他需要将经济至于环境中\N并看看资源和材料流动。
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.64,0:03:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,让我们停下并思考。
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.27,0:03:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,约尔·德·罗斯纳提出了{\i1}The Macroscope{\i0}，
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.20,0:03:21.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,主要的概念是去除细节。
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.94,0:03:24.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我们有个显微镜来关注细节，
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.05,0:03:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我们有个望远镜来观看远方。
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.55,0:03:29.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,他的想法是若我们取个宏观镜，\N若我们看大图，
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.79,0:03:32.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我们可察觉到经济中的模式
Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.61,0:03:34.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,同时不需要担心细节。
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.97,0:03:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,那非常、非常地有帮助，\N
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.00,0:03:43.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,因为如果经济的问题是它还未有环境，
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.18,0:03:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,宏观镜允许你问：“经济处于哪个位置？”
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.74,0:03:47.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,噢，它坐落于社会中，很明显地，
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.41,0:03:49.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,它坐落于一个环境内。
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.15,0:03:52.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而这些所有东西都紧密地相互连接着。
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.64,0:03:55.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,因为系统中有某部分不是机械的，
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.86,0:03:59.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,它实际上是动态的、相互依赖的...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.66,0:04:03.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,它反映着我们目前对这真实世界如何操作的了解。
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.67,0:04:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,这真实世界通过复杂的适应性系统概念来操作，
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.80,0:04:12.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,意思就是一个你不能预测结果的动态系统，
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.69,0:04:15.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但是你将会得到很多模式。
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.15,0:04:19.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而你可以用这些模式来找出你想做的事。
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.41,0:04:21.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但它不会像一个有杠杆的机器的经济般给你一个答案。
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.39,0:04:24.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.76,0:04:26.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.42,0:04:30.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,在复杂的适应性经济中并没有长远的均衡。
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.21,0:04:32.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,它也许在这，也许在那，
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.70,0:04:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,它也许有着很好的表现，也许有着很差的表现。
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.56,0:04:37.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但没有任何如果你有高效率，
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.82,0:04:39.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,它就会有好表现的假设。
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.31,0:04:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,这对德·罗斯纳来说会是个极其幼稚的看法。
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.79,0:04:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而那一直都是经济学者面临的大挑战。
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.09,0:04:54.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,对一些来说，这是一个从机械性看法
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.62,0:04:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,转化成更有启发性的复杂经济观的旅途。
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.23,0:05:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但是经济的普遍看法仍是
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.56,0:05:05.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,一个处理资源、创造经济增长的机器。
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.54,0:05:08.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我们在另一端有着这些问题是一大羞耻，
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.71,0:05:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而我们也许会面临资源短缺也是一大羞耻。
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.14,0:05:16.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,但若你将它看成是一个复杂的适应性系统，
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.04,0:05:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,你可以在这些模式与循环之中工作。
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.52,0:05:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,目前存在的经济注重的是生产量。
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.97,0:05:37.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.32,0:05:39.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.86,0:05:42.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.38,0:05:45.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.45,0:05:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.13,0:05:53.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.62,0:05:59.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.82,0:06:01.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.09,0:06:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.28,0:06:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.44,0:06:07.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.70,0:06:12.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.43,0:06:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.56,0:06:17.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.22,0:06:22.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.46,0:06:27.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.16,0:06:29.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.42,0:06:32.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.15,0:06:34.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.46,0:06:42.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.17,0:06:44.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.27,0:06:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.08,0:06:55.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.15,0:06:56.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.69,0:07:00.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.66,0:07:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.70,0:07:06.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.09,0:07:09.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.39,0:07:10.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.57,0:07:13.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.88,0:07:15.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.49,0:07:17.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.90,0:07:19.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.79,0:07:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.99,0:07:25.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.16,0:07:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.84,0:07:30.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.03,0:07:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.02,0:07:36.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.96,0:07:43.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.21,0:07:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.16,0:07:51.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.66,0:07:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.57,0:07:59.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.73,0:08:03.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.64,0:08:05.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.94,0:08:07.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.91,0:08:10.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.99,0:08:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.96,0:08:15.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.79,0:08:16.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.93,0:08:18.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.95,0:08:21.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.29,0:08:29.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.74,0:08:31.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.71,0:08:33.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.68,0:08:36.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.23,0:08:40.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.79,0:08:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.05,0:08:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.42,0:08:52.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.06,0:08:55.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.38,0:08:57.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.16,0:08:59.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.48,0:09:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
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Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.65,0:09:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.76,0:09:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
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Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.35,0:09:21.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.60,0:09:25.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.70,0:09:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.07,0:09:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.06,0:09:41.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.93,0:09:45.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.30,0:09:48.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
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Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.98,0:09:54.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
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Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.92,0:10:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.67,0:10:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
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Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.17,0:10:21.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
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Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.36,0:10:44.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
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Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.53,0:18:50.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,原材料
Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.93,0:18:52.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,能源
Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.21,0:18:53.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,工厂
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Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.76,0:19:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,我们如何生产它？
Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.32,0:19:08.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,而谁会从中获益？
Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.33,0:19:11.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,你不能只问：“你是如何生产它？”的方式
Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.49,0:19:14.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,来回答该经济问题。
Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.55,0:19:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ELLEN MACARTHUR FOUNDATION
Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.48,0:19:25.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,www.ellenmacarthurfoundation.org
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