1 00:00:10,476 --> 00:00:12,185 We are what we eat, 2 00:00:12,185 --> 00:00:15,194 but how many of us know what we are actually eating? 3 00:00:15,424 --> 00:00:17,379 How many of us know 4 00:00:17,380 --> 00:00:20,435 what food does to the environment before it comes to our plate. 5 00:00:20,435 --> 00:00:22,311 How many of you know 6 00:00:22,311 --> 00:00:25,936 what food does to the farmer who is producing that food? 7 00:00:26,300 --> 00:00:28,663 Do you know? Have you ever thought? 8 00:00:29,798 --> 00:00:32,292 How many of you think, when you are eating food, 9 00:00:32,292 --> 00:00:34,831 about the farmer who has produced it 10 00:00:34,831 --> 00:00:37,411 or the fate of the farmer who has produced it? 11 00:00:37,411 --> 00:00:39,202 These are some of the questions 12 00:00:39,202 --> 00:00:43,362 which grappled me when I was studying agriculture. 13 00:00:44,982 --> 00:00:47,436 While doing my Ph. D. in agriculture, 14 00:00:47,436 --> 00:00:49,446 I had a choice. 15 00:00:50,616 --> 00:00:54,483 Like every young boy in 90's, 16 00:00:54,483 --> 00:00:58,175 I was also crazy about getting into Indian Civil Service. 17 00:00:58,725 --> 00:01:01,335 I was reading about the Indian economy. 18 00:01:01,335 --> 00:01:03,457 I really understood about the Indian economy 19 00:01:03,457 --> 00:01:05,169 by reading for an exam. 20 00:01:05,169 --> 00:01:08,374 Finally, by the time I got into the services, 21 00:01:08,374 --> 00:01:11,134 I was selected for Indian Revenue Service. 22 00:01:11,134 --> 00:01:15,063 But I also had a choice of joining as an Agricultural Research Scientist. 23 00:01:15,433 --> 00:01:16,985 It was a tough choice. 24 00:01:17,751 --> 00:01:20,715 I made my choice to join as an Agricultural Research Scientist. 25 00:01:20,715 --> 00:01:23,208 I thought, I should continue working with farmers. 26 00:01:23,682 --> 00:01:25,494 (Applause) 27 00:01:25,910 --> 00:01:29,595 But that didn't last long, I'll come to that. 28 00:01:32,301 --> 00:01:35,341 Before I come to that, let's understand: what is our food? 29 00:01:35,741 --> 00:01:38,303 What are we eating? How safe is our food? 30 00:01:38,601 --> 00:01:41,266 All of you saw this news, some time back. 31 00:01:42,128 --> 00:01:47,494 Pesticides residues in soft drinks and bottled water. 32 00:01:48,551 --> 00:01:50,394 But forgotten the next day. 33 00:01:50,394 --> 00:01:51,626 Have you ever thought 34 00:01:51,626 --> 00:01:56,507 how pesticides residues got into this bottled water or soft drinks? 35 00:01:58,705 --> 00:02:01,695 If bottled water and soft drinks had pesticide residues, 36 00:02:01,695 --> 00:02:04,936 the water you used to make tea or coffee also must be having. 37 00:02:04,936 --> 00:02:06,799 But we never worry about it. 38 00:02:07,089 --> 00:02:10,042 The news is short, the next day we forget about it. 39 00:02:10,042 --> 00:02:13,952 At least this must be in your memory: noodles having heavy metals. 40 00:02:14,341 --> 00:02:16,391 How many of you thought, 41 00:02:16,391 --> 00:02:19,954 how did these heavy metals reach the noodles? 42 00:02:20,203 --> 00:02:22,138 If lead has to be added to the noodles, 43 00:02:22,138 --> 00:02:24,535 probably lead is more costly than the noodles. 44 00:02:25,034 --> 00:02:28,161 Nobody will add it, but it came. How did it come? 45 00:02:28,781 --> 00:02:32,497 If ingredients used to make noodles had the lead, 46 00:02:33,968 --> 00:02:36,963 then the 'aata' which you used to make your 'chapati' 47 00:02:36,963 --> 00:02:39,613 also must be having. 48 00:02:40,083 --> 00:02:43,035 Or the 'samosa' which you're eating also must be having, right? 49 00:02:44,087 --> 00:02:46,453 But we don't connect the dots. 50 00:02:46,863 --> 00:02:50,666 Same story when we hear about pesticide residues in vegetables. 51 00:02:51,029 --> 00:02:55,559 You all get horrified, but forget it in the evening. 52 00:02:56,110 --> 00:03:00,377 We all think, if we buy food at a good place, 53 00:03:00,377 --> 00:03:02,997 or eat it in a good hotel, it's safe. 54 00:03:03,167 --> 00:03:05,511 Food is only as safe as it is grown. 55 00:03:05,945 --> 00:03:08,124 End of pipe solutions don't work. 56 00:03:10,123 --> 00:03:12,302 The pesticides which are used in agriculture, 57 00:03:13,238 --> 00:03:18,018 less than 1% actually kills the insects, 99% gets into the water, 58 00:03:19,825 --> 00:03:22,801 gets into the air, and comes back into your food. 59 00:03:22,976 --> 00:03:24,912 We look at it very casually. 60 00:03:25,142 --> 00:03:28,008 Everything happening around us, we look at it very casually. 61 00:03:28,008 --> 00:03:29,796 I'll give you an example. 62 00:03:29,796 --> 00:03:33,348 While having the lunch, I saw people painting there. 63 00:03:33,348 --> 00:03:35,780 What is that? Spray Paint. 64 00:03:35,780 --> 00:03:37,178 Where does it go? 65 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,999 Part of it goes onto the board, part of it into the air. 66 00:03:41,601 --> 00:03:44,750 You were all eating there. It comes there. 67 00:03:44,910 --> 00:03:47,717 We are all educated, we feel we can make connections. 68 00:03:47,717 --> 00:03:48,985 We never make them. 69 00:03:49,321 --> 00:03:52,588 We expect that the farmer will make those connections 70 00:03:52,588 --> 00:03:55,026 and produce safe food for all of us. 71 00:03:55,271 --> 00:03:57,797 I think that's there is a disconnect 72 00:03:57,797 --> 00:04:03,350 between what we observe, what we know, and how we act. 73 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:06,100 It is a serious problem. 74 00:04:06,540 --> 00:04:08,583 It's not only about the pesticides. 75 00:04:08,990 --> 00:04:12,016 Do you know the eggs that you buy in the market, 76 00:04:12,016 --> 00:04:13,831 what kind of eggs are you buying? 77 00:04:13,831 --> 00:04:15,246 They are haploid eggs. 78 00:04:15,246 --> 00:04:19,526 Haploid means they are produced without male and female meeting together. 79 00:04:19,949 --> 00:04:24,329 That's why if you hatch the eggs, they won't make chickens. 80 00:04:25,276 --> 00:04:29,681 But how they are produced? They are produced by using estrogens. 81 00:04:29,681 --> 00:04:31,674 And what happens to those estrogens? 82 00:04:32,085 --> 00:04:34,382 When you eat those eggs they'll come back to you. 83 00:04:34,382 --> 00:04:38,051 That's one reason today the puberty in girls has advanced. 84 00:04:38,461 --> 00:04:42,266 The gynecological problems in women have increased. 85 00:04:42,656 --> 00:04:44,772 The breast development in men has increased. 86 00:04:45,066 --> 00:04:47,825 Last year's India Today's survey shows 87 00:04:47,825 --> 00:04:51,043 that the largest number of plastic surgeries done in India 88 00:04:51,043 --> 00:04:53,293 are to remove breasts in men. 89 00:04:53,603 --> 00:04:57,965 You got into the situation where fruit, which is supposed to be healthy, 90 00:04:59,994 --> 00:05:01,672 is creating all these problems. 91 00:05:02,034 --> 00:05:06,967 It's not just the pesticides, or antibiotics, or growth hormones 92 00:05:06,967 --> 00:05:09,991 which are used in production, but also how they are processed. 93 00:05:10,261 --> 00:05:15,334 You might have heard, last week, 10 days, doing rounds in all the media: 94 00:05:15,864 --> 00:05:17,534 artificially ripened fruits. 95 00:05:17,935 --> 00:05:20,032 But why are fruits ripened artificially? 96 00:05:20,462 --> 00:05:24,350 If all of you want to eat fruits off-season: 97 00:05:24,350 --> 00:05:26,295 how do they do it? 98 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:29,413 If you want mangoes in May, how do you get mangoes? 99 00:05:29,763 --> 00:05:34,618 You have to cut unripened one's, ripen it artificially, and sell it. 100 00:05:34,962 --> 00:05:37,532 Banana's which look uniformed yellow. 101 00:05:38,367 --> 00:05:41,258 What are they? They are all carbon ripened. 102 00:05:42,519 --> 00:05:45,320 The apples, the shiny apples which you see. 103 00:05:45,678 --> 00:05:48,043 What are they? When were they produced? 104 00:05:48,533 --> 00:05:51,033 Where were they produced? Do you know? 105 00:05:51,373 --> 00:05:54,631 California apples, you get apples from California. 106 00:05:56,334 --> 00:05:59,372 Can you keep it fresh? They are coated with wax. 107 00:06:00,255 --> 00:06:03,609 Go back to your home, take an apple from your fridge. 108 00:06:04,012 --> 00:06:06,158 Just scratch it. You'll see the wax. 109 00:06:06,934 --> 00:06:08,390 We are eating all that. 110 00:06:08,662 --> 00:06:10,874 The watermelons which are red in color, 111 00:06:12,371 --> 00:06:15,061 they are injected with injections, color. 112 00:06:15,689 --> 00:06:17,919 They are injected with growth hormones. 113 00:06:18,518 --> 00:06:20,168 The milk which is sold, 114 00:06:20,168 --> 00:06:23,248 we have seen in news of the last several years, 115 00:06:23,248 --> 00:06:25,966 the reports say, 116 00:06:25,966 --> 00:06:29,276 "The milk is contaminated with synthetic milk." 117 00:06:29,606 --> 00:06:35,177 If you want to have milk at ₹. 40/- a liter, 118 00:06:35,177 --> 00:06:36,447 that's what you get. 119 00:06:36,787 --> 00:06:38,613 We want food cheaper, 120 00:06:39,966 --> 00:06:43,099 and there is competition between the companies. 121 00:06:44,519 --> 00:06:46,834 They pay low prices to the farmers. 122 00:06:46,834 --> 00:06:49,796 They also contaminate it and then get away with that. 123 00:06:49,796 --> 00:06:52,266 All brands of milk sold in Hyderabad, 124 00:06:52,272 --> 00:06:55,742 is prone to have been contaminated with synthetic milk. 125 00:06:56,172 --> 00:06:57,445 GM Foods. 126 00:06:57,745 --> 00:07:01,055 How many of you know about this? How many of you have heard about this? 127 00:07:01,055 --> 00:07:03,103 Bt Brinjal. 128 00:07:03,103 --> 00:07:05,763 I'll tell you simply what Bt Brinjal is. 129 00:07:05,763 --> 00:07:09,190 When pesticide is sprayed from outside, it damages the environment. 130 00:07:09,190 --> 00:07:13,987 Like I said, 99% goes into the environment only 1% kills the insect. 131 00:07:14,282 --> 00:07:18,301 So, scientist thought, why not we produce pesticide in the plant itself. 132 00:07:18,633 --> 00:07:21,034 So the plant produces insecticides, 133 00:07:21,034 --> 00:07:23,384 so that whichever insect eats the plant will die. 134 00:07:23,554 --> 00:07:25,413 But what happens to us? Who eats that? 135 00:07:25,413 --> 00:07:29,692 So, there are several bio safety questions in front of us which were never addressed. 136 00:07:29,947 --> 00:07:35,290 What you see here, yellow, white, golden rice, which is going to come soon. 137 00:07:35,530 --> 00:07:37,122 Do you know why it was done? 138 00:07:37,125 --> 00:07:42,249 They say, vitamin A deficiency is a serious problem, 139 00:07:42,249 --> 00:07:44,948 so we will produce vitamin A in the plant. 140 00:07:44,948 --> 00:07:49,184 If you eat that rice, you can have as much as vitamin A as possible, 141 00:07:49,184 --> 00:07:52,530 but do you know vitamin A is a fat soluble vitamin? 142 00:07:52,530 --> 00:07:56,357 It's not just enough to have vitamin A, but you also need to have enough fat, 143 00:07:56,777 --> 00:08:00,195 but if you have enough fat in your food you don't need golden rice. 144 00:08:00,575 --> 00:08:05,300 In 2005 we came across a farmer in Guntur, 145 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:07,528 who was cultivating Bt Bhendi. 146 00:08:07,528 --> 00:08:08,669 We were shocked. 147 00:08:08,669 --> 00:08:10,070 I said, "How did you get it?" 148 00:08:10,070 --> 00:08:12,057 He said, "The company gave me the seeds." 149 00:08:12,057 --> 00:08:15,004 We went to the company, and they said, "We are doing a trial." 150 00:08:15,004 --> 00:08:16,634 We went to the government. 151 00:08:16,634 --> 00:08:18,903 The government said, "Yeah, that's their seed." 152 00:08:19,463 --> 00:08:21,559 They said, "You are not permitted." 153 00:08:22,089 --> 00:08:24,519 It was taken off in 2005. 154 00:08:25,709 --> 00:08:28,592 2013, similarly we came across a cotton. 155 00:08:28,592 --> 00:08:30,901 Herbicide-tolerant cotton which is grown. 156 00:08:31,461 --> 00:08:33,271 No permissions. 157 00:08:33,271 --> 00:08:36,574 In 2009, when Bt brinjal was permitted, there was a public discussion. 158 00:08:36,784 --> 00:08:40,077 It was the only time there was a public discussion, 159 00:08:40,077 --> 00:08:43,184 to introduce whether we need a food or not, and it was banned. 160 00:08:43,526 --> 00:08:47,480 Sometimes, some wise politicians take better decisions. 161 00:08:47,919 --> 00:08:52,305 But otherwise we would have been flooded with GM foods. 162 00:08:52,695 --> 00:08:55,122 Today there is case pending in Supreme Court, 163 00:08:55,122 --> 00:08:57,938 there is an expert committee appointed by Supreme Court 164 00:08:57,938 --> 00:09:01,167 which said, "We don't need this for next the 10 years. Let's wait." 165 00:09:01,347 --> 00:09:05,076 There's a parliamentary standing committee which also said, "We don't need." 166 00:09:05,369 --> 00:09:09,557 But you don't know how they are going to come into your plate. 167 00:09:09,557 --> 00:09:14,147 Food is not only useful energy but also good for your health. 168 00:09:14,467 --> 00:09:17,036 It can treat many of the diseases. Food is a medicine. 169 00:09:17,036 --> 00:09:21,273 It can act as preventive medicine, and can also act as a curative medicine. 170 00:09:21,593 --> 00:09:26,414 I know many people who are working on treating autism with good food. 171 00:09:27,204 --> 00:09:28,831 Many problems which you are seeing 172 00:09:28,831 --> 00:09:34,019 - obesity, diabetes, blood pressure - all are because of the food which you eat. 173 00:09:34,019 --> 00:09:36,373 You need to make a right choice about your food. 174 00:09:36,373 --> 00:09:38,757 Second: what food does to the environment. 175 00:09:38,757 --> 00:09:40,697 Let's look at the ecological footprints. 176 00:09:40,697 --> 00:09:42,597 How many of you have seen rice fields? 177 00:09:42,597 --> 00:09:43,957 Almost all, right? 178 00:09:43,957 --> 00:09:46,497 What comes to your mind when we think of rice fields? 179 00:09:46,497 --> 00:09:48,310 Full of water. 180 00:09:48,310 --> 00:09:52,440 How much water does it take to produce an acre of rice? 181 00:09:54,060 --> 00:09:55,794 6 million liters. 182 00:09:57,595 --> 00:10:00,648 6 million liters per acre of rice. 183 00:10:01,272 --> 00:10:05,038 Which is equal to 100 families annual consumption. 184 00:10:05,304 --> 00:10:09,169 One family of five members eats about a kilogram of rice a day. 185 00:10:09,169 --> 00:10:13,126 Which is equivalent to a tanker of water: 180 showers. 186 00:10:13,356 --> 00:10:15,823 All of us want to eat rice. 187 00:10:15,823 --> 00:10:20,785 More and more water you need in production of rice. 188 00:10:20,785 --> 00:10:22,307 Let's make a making calculation: 189 00:10:22,307 --> 00:10:27,687 how much one meal of rice in Hyderabad costs to the environment? 190 00:10:28,257 --> 00:10:30,496 It's probably as big as a whole dam. 191 00:10:30,751 --> 00:10:33,292 We need to worry about the ecological footprints. 192 00:10:34,122 --> 00:10:37,729 It's not just about the water, about pesticides, about growth hormone. 193 00:10:37,927 --> 00:10:39,062 Everything. 194 00:10:39,062 --> 00:10:42,252 What agriculture leaves before it comes to your plate? 195 00:10:43,492 --> 00:10:45,837 And not just that. What does it do to the farmers? 196 00:10:46,233 --> 00:10:49,393 The more and more pesticides you spray, insects get resistant. 197 00:10:49,393 --> 00:10:50,331 They don't work. 198 00:10:50,331 --> 00:10:52,368 First time you spray, second time you spray, 199 00:10:52,368 --> 00:10:54,536 third time you spray, fourth time you drink it. 200 00:10:54,536 --> 00:10:57,121 That's what we have seen all along, farmer suicides. 201 00:10:57,121 --> 00:11:00,847 The fall out of such things is increasing cost of cultivation, 202 00:11:00,847 --> 00:11:02,761 but the prices are not increasing. 203 00:11:03,108 --> 00:11:08,128 Production costs for one kilogram of rice, ₹. 2,100 as per government calculations, 204 00:11:08,128 --> 00:11:10,196 but today the price is on 1,400 for farmers. 205 00:11:10,508 --> 00:11:14,799 Today a ton of sugarcane is ₹. 2,000. 206 00:11:14,799 --> 00:11:17,156 A ton of firewood is ₹. 4,000. 207 00:11:18,256 --> 00:11:19,849 How can farmers live? 208 00:11:20,126 --> 00:11:22,267 The policies are also lopsided. 209 00:11:23,767 --> 00:11:27,842 Today, the average income of 83% of the farmers in this country 210 00:11:27,842 --> 00:11:31,142 is only ₹. 5,000. 211 00:11:32,262 --> 00:11:34,863 So farmers have lost their economic independence. 212 00:11:34,863 --> 00:11:38,070 Not just economic independence, physical independence as well. 213 00:11:38,313 --> 00:11:40,418 These are photographs wich we have taken 214 00:11:40,418 --> 00:11:42,798 of farmers standing in queue for fertilizers. 215 00:11:42,798 --> 00:11:44,688 Standing in queue for seeds. 216 00:11:44,688 --> 00:11:46,465 Seeds which they can produce. 217 00:11:46,704 --> 00:11:49,681 Fertilizer which they can make by composting, 218 00:11:49,681 --> 00:11:51,195 but they are not subsidized. 219 00:11:51,195 --> 00:11:53,409 If you buy it in a market, they are subsidized. 220 00:11:53,409 --> 00:11:55,889 Lopsided policies from government. 221 00:11:56,775 --> 00:11:59,328 All these lead to farmer suicides. 222 00:11:59,328 --> 00:12:03,591 In last 20 years, 300,000 farmers have committed suicide. 223 00:12:03,591 --> 00:12:05,236 Every day about 48. 224 00:12:05,563 --> 00:12:09,749 What is the point about just discussing the dark side of the picture? 225 00:12:09,749 --> 00:12:12,673 How much and what can we do to change the situation. 226 00:12:12,673 --> 00:12:16,413 Some of us working in agriculture at various institutions came together, 227 00:12:16,421 --> 00:12:20,106 and we started an organization called Center for Sustainable Agriculture, 228 00:12:20,106 --> 00:12:21,406 in 2004. 229 00:12:21,406 --> 00:12:24,876 We started working with farmers, telling them how they can move away 230 00:12:24,876 --> 00:12:28,742 from the high external input base agriculture 231 00:12:28,742 --> 00:12:31,438 to low external input based agriculture. 232 00:12:31,698 --> 00:12:33,002 It was not easy, 233 00:12:33,002 --> 00:12:36,492 but what we found is across the country there were wonderful experiences. 234 00:12:36,492 --> 00:12:40,071 But all those experiences were taught in ideological frameworks. 235 00:12:40,507 --> 00:12:41,979 They don't talk to each other. 236 00:12:41,979 --> 00:12:43,779 There are good things and bad things, 237 00:12:43,779 --> 00:12:46,703 if they would discuss with each other it would have been good, 238 00:12:46,703 --> 00:12:48,356 but they never talk to each other. 239 00:12:48,356 --> 00:12:50,749 Mainstream institutions never worried about them. 240 00:12:50,749 --> 00:12:53,202 So we brought all the practices together, 241 00:12:53,202 --> 00:12:56,848 evolved what we called sustainable agricultural practices. 242 00:12:56,848 --> 00:12:59,218 The first success came in Kulukulla. 243 00:12:59,218 --> 00:13:03,001 Kulukulla is village in Kamang district which became completely pesticide free. 244 00:13:03,001 --> 00:13:06,084 The village, which was spending about 6 million per annum, 245 00:13:06,084 --> 00:13:08,394 they completely stopped using pesticides. 246 00:13:08,394 --> 00:13:11,665 (Applause) 247 00:13:11,665 --> 00:13:16,555 The Agriculture minister came and said, "Wonderful. What do you want?" 248 00:13:17,785 --> 00:13:23,082 The farmers said, "Make Andhra Pradesh pesticide free." 249 00:13:23,663 --> 00:13:26,796 He was amazed. He said, "Certainly I'll do. But what do you want?" 250 00:13:26,796 --> 00:13:31,056 I said,"We are happy with what we have. Just change all agricultural practices." 251 00:13:31,404 --> 00:13:36,035 He brought all the scientists of the department of agriculture together 252 00:13:36,035 --> 00:13:37,627 to see and then make a change. 253 00:13:37,627 --> 00:13:41,236 They said,"Sir, this is one village. We can't do it. It is not possible." 254 00:13:41,236 --> 00:13:42,648 Then came Enabavi. 255 00:13:42,648 --> 00:13:45,818 This is about 80 kilometers from here, completely organic village. 256 00:13:45,818 --> 00:13:47,108 The last three years, 257 00:13:47,108 --> 00:13:49,776 more than 10 thousand people have visited the village 258 00:13:49,776 --> 00:13:51,573 to know how they are doing farming. 259 00:13:51,573 --> 00:13:54,664 But this also has not changed anything under government. 260 00:13:54,664 --> 00:13:56,193 But consumers have changed. 261 00:13:56,193 --> 00:13:59,061 Many people have started understanding what is good for them. 262 00:13:59,061 --> 00:14:02,628 This is an advertisement which is The Hindu uses for itself. 263 00:14:03,204 --> 00:14:05,038 This is a village called Dorli. 264 00:14:05,263 --> 00:14:07,797 Dorli is in Vardha. 265 00:14:07,797 --> 00:14:11,157 After Telangana, you hear lots of suicides from Vardha. 266 00:14:11,157 --> 00:14:13,544 In 2005 the village was put up for sale, 267 00:14:13,544 --> 00:14:15,364 farmers decided we can't do farming. 268 00:14:15,364 --> 00:14:16,872 They put up village for sale. 269 00:14:16,872 --> 00:14:20,802 We went there in 2006 and said, "Can we start working together?" 270 00:14:21,242 --> 00:14:23,990 Today all of them have repaid their loans, 271 00:14:23,990 --> 00:14:26,049 all of them are back to farming. 272 00:14:26,049 --> 00:14:27,044 (Applause) 273 00:14:27,044 --> 00:14:30,103 It's possible. It's possible. 274 00:14:30,103 --> 00:14:31,691 All examples are in front of us. 275 00:14:31,691 --> 00:14:32,811 We also started working 276 00:14:32,811 --> 00:14:35,575 with the woman self fill groups in Andhra Pradesh. 277 00:14:35,575 --> 00:14:38,125 These are cover stories of 'Down To Earth' magazine, 278 00:14:38,125 --> 00:14:39,930 which tracked the whole change. 279 00:14:39,930 --> 00:14:42,850 We started with 225 acres in 2005. 280 00:14:43,540 --> 00:14:48,769 Today its 3.5 million acres in Andhra Pradesh and Telangana together, 281 00:14:48,769 --> 00:14:50,038 pesticide free. 282 00:14:50,038 --> 00:14:51,358 (Applause) 283 00:14:51,358 --> 00:14:54,812 50% of use of pesticide in the state has come down. 284 00:14:56,969 --> 00:15:00,700 We were third in the country in terms of per acre pesticide used, 285 00:15:00,700 --> 00:15:02,400 today we are 20th in the country. 286 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:03,306 (Applause) 287 00:15:03,306 --> 00:15:06,485 This was part of a show on Satyamev Jayate, 288 00:15:06,485 --> 00:15:07,942 some of you may have seen it. 289 00:15:07,942 --> 00:15:10,115 In this show we had an interesting discussion. 290 00:15:10,115 --> 00:15:14,535 The other side was the largest pesticide seller in this country. 291 00:15:14,535 --> 00:15:16,726 Towards the end Amir Khan asked me a question: 292 00:15:16,726 --> 00:15:19,536 "I am fully convinced with what you're saying and what you're doing 293 00:15:19,536 --> 00:15:20,966 It is possible to do it India. 294 00:15:20,966 --> 00:15:23,466 But how do I convince this man who is sitting here?" 295 00:15:23,766 --> 00:15:25,226 I said: "Ask his brother, 296 00:15:25,226 --> 00:15:28,168 His brother is the largest organic exporter in this country." 297 00:15:28,168 --> 00:15:30,653 (Applause) 298 00:15:32,546 --> 00:15:33,906 And he said, "Yes." 299 00:15:34,318 --> 00:15:37,245 That shows that people see it as business. 300 00:15:37,245 --> 00:15:41,782 If pesticide sells, they sell pesticides, if organic sells, they sell organic. 301 00:15:42,542 --> 00:15:45,359 You buy pesticides or other organic pesticides 302 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,192 or certificate from us saying you haven't used any of these things. 303 00:15:49,702 --> 00:15:51,799 Farmers are made into consumers. 304 00:15:52,700 --> 00:15:54,293 But what are our consumers doing? 305 00:15:54,293 --> 00:15:55,663 Then what we did is 306 00:15:55,663 --> 00:15:58,027 we brought some consumers in Hyderabad together 307 00:15:58,027 --> 00:16:00,741 to form a consumer cooperative called Sahaja Aharam. 308 00:16:00,741 --> 00:16:04,704 We also brought all farmers together to form farmers cooperative, 309 00:16:04,704 --> 00:16:06,328 so that they can market directly. 310 00:16:06,328 --> 00:16:08,570 Today we have 20 farmer cooperatives 311 00:16:08,570 --> 00:16:12,544 who produce organically and directly sell in the market. 312 00:16:12,544 --> 00:16:16,066 While many of you worry about organic food prices, 313 00:16:16,066 --> 00:16:20,988 the organic Sahaja Aharam prices are 20% lower than the market prices, 314 00:16:20,988 --> 00:16:24,734 and 75% of what the consumer pays goes to the farmers. 315 00:16:25,279 --> 00:16:29,170 In the regular market it is just 20% which goes to the farmer. 316 00:16:29,170 --> 00:16:31,391 (Applause) 317 00:16:32,481 --> 00:16:34,044 What do I see from here? 318 00:16:34,044 --> 00:16:35,772 I see a ray of hope. 319 00:16:35,772 --> 00:16:37,153 It's possible. 320 00:16:37,153 --> 00:16:39,936 If all of us can join hands together, we can make a change. 321 00:16:40,356 --> 00:16:43,559 But it's a long way to go in terms of Government Policies. 322 00:16:43,559 --> 00:16:46,089 Still there is serious crisis in agriculture. 323 00:16:46,089 --> 00:16:48,487 Yesterday, you may have seen about farmer's suicide. 324 00:16:48,487 --> 00:16:50,647 Today, this morning's newspaper, you may have seen. 325 00:16:50,818 --> 00:16:52,511 Numbers of farmers are dying. 326 00:16:52,511 --> 00:16:54,493 It's a responsibility of all of us. 327 00:16:54,493 --> 00:16:56,377 Business as usual is not an option. 328 00:16:56,377 --> 00:17:00,493 We need to change as consumers, we need change as farmers. 329 00:17:00,493 --> 00:17:04,552 We all need to come together to pressurize government 330 00:17:04,552 --> 00:17:05,913 to make a change. 331 00:17:05,913 --> 00:17:08,252 Otherwise, the future is very very glee. 332 00:17:08,252 --> 00:17:09,512 Thank you. 333 00:17:09,512 --> 00:17:10,682 (Applause)