0:00:09.976,0:00:12.035 We are what we eat. 0:00:12.235,0:00:15.244 But how many of us know,[br]what we are actually eating? 0:00:15.244,0:00:16.949 How many of us know, [br] 0:00:17.380,0:00:20.279 what food does to environment[br]before it comes to our plate 0:00:20.645,0:00:22.321 How many of you know, 0:00:22.731,0:00:25.806 what food does to farmer,[br]who is producing that food? 0:00:26.080,0:00:28.663 Do you know? have you ever thought? 0:00:29.798,0:00:32.122 How many of you think[br]if you are eating food, 0:00:32.198,0:00:37.098 about the farmer who has produced it [br]or fate of the farmer who has produced? 0:00:37.831,0:00:39.886 You know, some of the questions[br] 0:00:40.002,0:00:42.782 which grappled me when I was[br]studying my agriculture. 0:00:44.982,0:00:48.395 While doing my Ph. D. in agriculture [br]I had a choice, 0:00:50.936,0:00:54.303 Like every young boy in 90's 0:00:54.767,0:00:58.078 I was also crazy about [br]getting into Indian Civil Sercvice 0:00:58.335,0:01:03.037 Reading the Indian Economy [br]I really understood about Indian Economy 0:01:03.241,0:01:05.389 by reading for an exam. 0:01:05.499,0:01:09.736 Finally by time I got into services,[br]I was selected for Indian Revenue Service. 0:01:11.134,0:01:15.063 But, I also had a choice of joining as [br]Agricultural Research Scientist. 0:01:15.433,0:01:16.765 It was tough choice. 0:01:17.101,0:01:20.152 I made my choice as joined as [br]Agricultural Research Scientist. 0:01:20.715,0:01:23.208 I thought, "I should continue [br]working with farmers." 0:01:23.432,0:01:25.244 (Applause) 0:01:25.910,0:01:29.075 But, that didn't last long,[br]I'll come to that. 0:01:32.411,0:01:35.341 Before I come to that, [br]let's understand ,"What is our food? 0:01:35.741,0:01:37.893 What we are eating? How safe is our food?" 0:01:38.811,0:01:40.806 All of you saw this news, sometime back 0:01:42.238,0:01:46.974 Pesticides residues in soft drinks [br]and bottled water. 0:01:48.801,0:01:50.207 But, forgot the next day. 0:01:50.654,0:01:52.196 Have you ever thought, [br] 0:01:52.196,0:01:56.047 How pesticides residues come into [br]this bottled water or soft drink? 0:01:58.805,0:02:01.695 If bottled water and soft drink had [br]pesticide residues, 0:02:01.695,0:02:04.776 The water you used to make tea or coffee[br]also must be having, 0:02:05.066,0:02:07.149 But we never worried about it. 0:02:07.309,0:02:10.042 The news is short the next day[br]we forget about it. 0:02:10.042,0:02:13.792 At least this must be a memory,[br]Noodles having heavy metals. 0:02:15.011,0:02:17.101 How many of you've thought,[br] 0:02:17.101,0:02:20.034 how did this heavy metals reached [br]in the Noodles? 0:02:20.353,0:02:22.138 If lead has to added in Noodles,[br] 0:02:22.138,0:02:24.535 Probably lead is more costly than Noodles. 0:02:25.034,0:02:27.051 Nobody will add it but it came. 0:02:28.931,0:02:32.067 If ingredients used to make Noodles[br]had the lead, 0:02:34.178,0:02:39.276 The "Aata" which you used to make [br]your "Chapati" also must be having. 0:02:39.963,0:02:42.885 Or the Samosa which you're eating[br]also must be having. Right? 0:02:43.947,0:02:46.453 But we don't connect the dots. 0:02:46.453,0:02:50.496 Same is the story when we hear about[br]pesticide residues in vegetables. 0:02:51.029,0:02:55.159 You all get horrified. [br]But, forget it in the evening. 0:02:56.110,0:03:02.604 We all think if we buy food at good place [br]or eat it in good hotel, it's safe. 0:03:03.377,0:03:05.371 Food is only as safe as it is grown. 0:03:05.945,0:03:08.034 End of pipe solutions doesn't work. 0:03:09.893,0:03:12.072 The pesticides which are [br]used in agriculture, 0:03:13.238,0:03:18.018 less than 1% actually kills the insects,[br]99% gets into the water, 0:03:19.825,0:03:22.801 get into the air [br]and comes back to your food. 0:03:22.976,0:03:25.432 We look at it very casually. 0:03:25.432,0:03:28.248 Everything happened around us[br]we look at it casually. 0:03:28.248,0:03:31.946 I'll give you one example,[br]While having the lunch I saw people 0:03:31.946,0:03:34.238 painting there, what was that? 0:03:34.238,0:03:35.950 Spray Paint. 0:03:35.950,0:03:37.178 Where does it go? 0:03:37.560,0:03:40.999 Part of it goes on to the board,[br]part of it into the air. 0:03:41.271,0:03:44.981 You all were eating there.[br]It comes there. 0:03:45.090,0:03:47.717 We all are educated,[br]We feel we can make connections. 0:03:47.717,0:03:48.985 We never make. 0:03:49.321,0:03:52.398 And we expect that farmer will[br]make those connections. 0:03:52.725,0:03:55.026 and produce safe food for all of us. 0:03:55.271,0:03:58.076 I think that's where disconnect between, 0:03:58.357,0:04:05.190 What we observe, what we know,[br]and how we act is the serious problem. 0:04:06.350,0:04:08.283 It's not only about the pesticides, 0:04:09.060,0:04:11.616 do you know the eggs [br]that you buy in the market 0:04:12.015,0:04:14.031 what kind of eggs you buying? 0:04:14.031,0:04:15.476 They are half cloyed eggs. 0:04:15.706,0:04:19.526 Half cloyed means they are produced[br]without male & female meeting together. 0:04:19.949,0:04:24.329 That's why if you hatch the eggs,[br]they won't make chickens. 0:04:25.036,0:04:28.271 But how they are produced?[br]They are produced by using estrogens 0:04:28.271,0:04:31.674 And what happen to those estrogen?[br] 0:04:31.755,0:04:34.142 When you eat those eggs?[br]they'll come back to you. 0:04:34.489,0:04:37.951 That's one reason today[br]pivot in girl child has advanced. 0:04:37.951,0:04:42.056 Gynic problems in women has increased. 0:04:42.056,0:04:44.642 Breast development in men has increased. 0:04:45.246,0:04:48.493 Do you know last year's India Today's [br]survey shows that, 0:04:48.605,0:04:52.263 the largest number of plastic surgeries [br]done in India of to remove breast in men 0:04:52.943,0:04:57.965 you got into that situation [br]where fruit is supposed to be healthy, 0:04:59.994,0:05:01.672 is creating all that problems. 0:05:02.244,0:05:06.967 It's not just pesticides or antibiotics[br]are growth hormones, 0:05:06.967,0:05:09.991 which are used in production.[br]But also how they are processed. 0:05:09.991,0:05:15.334 You might have heard the last one week[br]10 days doing rounds in all the media 0:05:15.334,0:05:17.004 artificially ripened fruits. 0:05:17.935,0:05:20.032 But why fruits are ripened artificially? 0:05:20.032,0:05:23.870 if all of you want to fruits [br]in off season. 0:05:24.028,0:05:26.035 How will they do it? 0:05:26.449,0:05:29.023 If you want mangoes in May,[br]how do you get mangoes? 0:05:29.973,0:05:34.308 You have to cut unripened one's [br]ripen it artificially and sell it. 0:05:34.962,0:05:37.302 Banana's which are seeing uniformed yellow[br] 0:05:38.037,0:05:40.648 What are they? [br]They all are carbon ripen. 0:05:42.519,0:05:45.320 The apples the shiny apples which you see,[br] 0:05:45.678,0:05:50.829 What are they? When were they produced?[br]Where were they produced? Do you know? 0:05:51.293,0:05:54.551 California apples, [br]you get apple from California 0:05:56.334,0:05:59.172 Can you keep it fresh?[br]They are coated with wax. 0:06:00.255,0:06:03.699 Go back to your home, [br]take apple from your fridge. 0:06:04.152,0:06:06.508 Just scratch it. You'll see the wax. 0:06:06.934,0:06:08.390 We are eating all that. 0:06:08.662,0:06:10.694 The watermelons which are red in color,[br] 0:06:11.161,0:06:15.061 they are injected with injections, color. 0:06:15.159,0:06:17.719 They are injected with growth hormones. 0:06:18.518,0:06:23.059 The milk which is sold,[br]we have seen in news last several years, 0:06:23.478,0:06:28.989 the reports which say, "The milk is [br]contaminated with synthetic milk." 0:06:29.886,0:06:36.092 If you want to have milk [br]at 40 rupees a liter thats what you get. 0:06:36.787,0:06:38.133 We want food cheaper, 0:06:39.966,0:06:43.099 and there is competition [br]between the companies 0:06:43.979,0:06:47.014 They pay low to the farmers, 0:06:47.014,0:06:49.796 They also contaminate it [br]and get away with that. 0:06:49.796,0:06:52.266 All brands of milk sold in Hyderabad, 0:06:52.272,0:06:55.462 prone to have [br]contaminated with synthetic milk 0:06:56.422,0:07:00.561 GM Foods, How many of you know about this?[br]How many of you've heard about this? 0:07:01.405,0:07:05.166 BT Brinjal, to tell you simply,[br]what BT Brinjal is? 0:07:05.943,0:07:09.285 when pesticide is sprayed from outside [br]it damages the environment. 0:07:09.530,0:07:13.987 Like I said,"99% goes into the environment[br]only 1% kills the insect." 0:07:14.482,0:07:18.301 So scientist thought why not we produce[br]pesticide in plant itself. 0:07:18.633,0:07:23.094 So plant produces insecticides.[br]So which ever insect eats plant will die. 0:07:23.094,0:07:25.753 But what happens to us?[br]Who eats that. 0:07:25.753,0:07:29.842 So there are several bio safety questions[br]in front of us which were never addressed. 0:07:30.107,0:07:35.330 What you see here, yellow, white,[br]golden rice which is going to come soon 0:07:35.330,0:07:36.992 You know why it was done?[br] 0:07:37.485,0:07:43.089 They say "vitamin A deficiency [br]is serious problem, so we will produce 0:07:43.089,0:07:44.948 vitamin A in the plant." 0:07:44.948,0:07:48.704 If you eat that rice you can have [br]as much as vitamin A as possible. 0:07:48.704,0:07:52.530 But do you know vitamin A is [br]fat soluble vitamin. 0:07:52.530,0:07:56.267 So it's not just enough to have vitamin A,[br]but you also need to have enough fat. 0:07:56.267,0:08:00.195 But if you have enough fat in your food[br]you don't need golden rice. 0:08:00.195,0:08:04.080 In 2005 we came across a farmer in Guntur, 0:08:04.080,0:08:06.988 Who was cultivating BT Bhendi. 0:08:06.988,0:08:08.909 We were shocked. 0:08:08.909,0:08:10.550 I said "How did you get it?" 0:08:10.550,0:08:12.397 He said,"Company gave me the seeds." 0:08:12.397,0:08:15.252 We went to the company.[br]They said,"We are doing a trial." 0:08:15.154,0:08:18.973 We went to the government.[br]Government said,"Yeah, That is seen." 0:08:18.973,0:08:23.626 They said, "You are not permitted."[br]Those were taken off in 2005. 0:08:23.989,0:08:28.592 2013, similarly we came across a cotton, 0:08:28.592,0:08:32.573 Kerbside tolerant cotton which is grown.[br]No permissions. 0:08:33.271,0:08:36.751 In 2009, when BT brinjal was permitted [br]there was public discussions. 0:08:37.144,0:08:39.907 But It was the only time [br]there was for public discussion, 0:08:40.230,0:08:43.184 to introduce whether we need a food or not[br]And it was banned. 0:08:43.716,0:08:47.480 Sometimes, some wise politicians [br]take better decisions. 0:08:48.079,0:08:52.305 But by this we would have [br]flooded with GM foods. 0:08:52.305,0:08:54.762 Today there is case pending in[br]Supreme Court, 0:08:54.762,0:08:57.938 there is expert committee appointed by[br]Supreme Court. 0:08:57.938,0:09:01.057 Which said, "We don't need this [br]for next 10 yrs. Let's wait." 0:09:01.057,0:09:03.096 There is parliament standing committee [br] 0:09:03.096,0:09:05.469 which was appointed it also said [br]"We don't need." 0:09:05.689,0:09:09.947 But, you don't know how they are [br]going to come into your plate. 0:09:09.947,0:09:14.147 Food is not only useful energy[br]but also good for your health. 0:09:14.147,0:09:17.576 It can treat many of the deceases.[br]Food is a medicine. 0:09:17.576,0:09:21.273 It can act as preventive medicine and[br]It can also act as a curative medicine. 0:09:21.273,0:09:26.074 I know many people who are working on[br]treating autism with good food. 0:09:26.074,0:09:28.531 Many of the problem which you are seeing 0:09:28.531,0:09:34.019 Obesity, diabetes, blood pressure[br]all are because of the food which you eat. 0:09:34.019,0:09:36.253 You need to make right choice[br]about your food. 0:09:36.253,0:09:38.437 Second, What food does to the environment. 0:09:38.437,0:09:40.837 Let's look at ecological footprints. 0:09:40.837,0:09:43.957 How many you have seen rice fields?[br]Almost all, right. 0:09:43.957,0:09:46.557 What comes to your mind [br]when we think of rice fields? 0:09:46.987,0:09:51.380 Full of water. How much water it takes[br]to produce an acre of rice?[br] 0:09:53.510,0:09:55.244 6 million liters. 0:09:56.935,0:10:00.148 6 million liters per acre of rice. 0:10:01.032,0:10:05.168 Which is equal to 100 families [br]annual consumption. 0:10:05.634,0:10:09.169 1 family of 5 members eats about [br]a Kg of rice a day. 0:10:09.169,0:10:12.996 Which is equivalent to tanker of water.[br]180 showers. 0:10:12.996,0:10:18.348 All of us want to eat rice,[br]more and more water you need 0:10:18.393,0:10:20.785 in production of rice. 0:10:20.785,0:10:22.606 You were making calculation 0:10:22.607,0:10:27.687 how much 1 meal of rice in Hyderabad [br]costs an environment? 0:10:28.257,0:10:30.496 It's probably as big as, all over a dam. 0:10:30.751,0:10:33.292 We need to worry about,[br]the ecological footprints. 0:10:34.122,0:10:37.729 It's not just about the water, [br]about pesticides, about growth hormone. 0:10:37.927,0:10:42.012 Everything. What agriculture leaves [br]before it comes to you plate? 0:10:44.142,0:10:46.157 Not just that. [br]What it does to farmers? 0:10:46.233,0:10:50.191 The more and more pesticides you spray[br]insects get resistance. They don't work. 0:10:50.211,0:10:52.208 First time you spray,[br]second time you spray 0:10:52.208,0:10:54.546 third time you spray it,[br]fifth time you drink. 0:10:54.546,0:10:57.431 That's what we have seen [br]along farmer suicides. 0:10:57.531,0:11:00.697 The fall outs of such things is [br]increasing cost of cultivation, 0:11:00.931,0:11:02.981 but prices are not increasing. 0:11:03.108,0:11:08.128 You know 1 Kg of rice costs [br]Rs. 2100/- as per government calcuations 0:11:08.128,0:11:10.196 But today price is on 1400 for farmers. 0:11:10.508,0:11:14.309 Today a ton of sugarcane is Rs. 2000/- 0:11:14.309,0:11:16.646 A ton of firewood is Rs. 4000/- 0:11:17.996,0:11:19.689 How farmers can live? 0:11:20.126,0:11:22.267 The policies are also lop sided. 0:11:23.267,0:11:29.262 Today average income of 83% of farmer[br]in this country is only Rs. 5000/- 0:11:29.262,0:11:32.262 Only Rs. 5000/- 0:11:32.262,0:11:35.273 So farmers have lost [br]their economic independence. 0:11:35.420,0:11:38.300 Not just economic independence,[br]physical independence as well. 0:11:38.523,0:11:42.350 This were photographs taken farmers were [br]standing in queue for fertilizers. 0:11:42.798,0:11:44.688 Standing in queue for seeds. 0:11:44.688,0:11:46.465 Seeds which they can produce. 0:11:46.704,0:11:49.737 Fertilizer which they can[br]make by composting. 0:11:49.801,0:11:51.615 But they are not subsidized. 0:11:51.615,0:11:53.802 If you buy it in a market,[br]they are subsidized. 0:11:53.829,0:11:56.239 Lop sided policies from government. 0:11:56.885,0:11:58.848 All these are lead to farmer suicides. 0:11:58.848,0:12:03.370 In last 20 yrs 3,00,000 farmers [br]have committed suicide. 0:12:03.741,0:12:05.236 Everyday about 48. 0:12:05.823,0:12:09.489 What is the point about just discussing[br]dark side of the picture? 0:12:09.489,0:12:12.503 How much and we can do [br]to change the situation. 0:12:12.503,0:12:16.421 Some of us working in agriculture.[br]Various institution came together 0:12:16.421,0:12:21.156 we started organization called [br]Center for Sustainable Agriculture in 2004 0:12:21.156,0:12:23.006 We started working with farmers, 0:12:23.006,0:12:25.532 telling them, [br]"How they can move away from 0:12:25.532,0:12:30.658 the high external input base agriculture [br]to low external input based agriculture?" 0:12:30.658,0:12:32.622 It was not easy. 0:12:32.680,0:12:36.182 But what we found is across the country [br]there were wonderful experiences. 0:12:36.182,0:12:40.071 But all those experiences were thought[br]in ideological framework. 0:12:40.227,0:12:41.887 They don't talk to each other. 0:12:42.399,0:12:45.343 There are good things, bad things [br]but if they discuss with each other 0:12:45.343,0:12:48.056 it would have been good[br]but they never talk to each other. 0:12:48.174,0:12:50.619 Main stream institutions [br]never worried about them. 0:12:50.730,0:12:52.712 So we brought all practices together. 0:12:53.197,0:12:56.848 Evolved what we called as sustainable [br]agricultural practices. 0:12:56.848,0:12:59.218 The first success came in Kulukulla. 0:12:59.218,0:13:03.154 Kulukulla is village in Kamang district[br]which became completely pesticide free. 0:13:03.301,0:13:07.984 The village which was speinding 60 LPA,[br]they completely stopped using pesticides. 0:13:07.984,0:13:11.005 (Applause) 0:13:11.005,0:13:15.645 Agriculture minister came.[br]He said, "Wonderful. What do you want?" 0:13:17.785,0:13:22.732 Farmers said,[br]"Make Andhra Pradesh pesticide free." 0:13:23.553,0:13:26.684 He was amazed. He said,[br]"Certainly I'll do. But what do you want?" 0:13:27.276,0:13:30.954 They said,"We are happy with what we have.[br]But change all the agricultural practices" 0:13:30.954,0:13:33.415 He brought all [br]agriculture university scientists of 0:13:33.415,0:13:37.517 department of agriculture together to see[br]and then make a change. 0:13:37.517,0:13:40.996 They said,"Sir, this is one village[br]we can't do it. It's not possible." 0:13:40.996,0:13:45.818 Then came Enabavi this is 80 km from here,[br]compeltely organic village. 0:13:45.818,0:13:49.616 The last three years over 10000 people [br]have visited the village to know 0:13:49.616,0:13:51.573 "How they are doing farming?" 0:13:51.573,0:13:54.344 "But this has also not changed anything [br]under government." 0:13:54.344,0:13:56.193 But consumers have changed. 0:13:56.193,0:13:59.061 Many people have started understanding[br]what is good for them. 0:13:59.061,0:14:02.388 This is an advertisement [br]which is The Hindu uses for itself. 0:14:02.944,0:14:05.038 This is the village called Dorli. 0:14:05.503,0:14:10.357 Dorli is in Vardha. After Telanagana,[br]you hear lots of suicide from Vardha. 0:14:11.357,0:14:15.364 In 2005 the village was put up for sale.[br]Farmers decided, we can't do farming. 0:14:15.364,0:14:17.362 They put up village for sale. 0:14:17.362,0:14:20.542 We went there in 2006 and said[br]"Can we start working together?" 0:14:20.542,0:14:23.740 Today all of them have repaid their loans. 0:14:23.740,0:14:26.049 All of them are back to farming. 0:14:26.049,0:14:27.044 (Applause) 0:14:27.044,0:14:30.103 It's possible. It's possible. [br]It's possible. 0:14:30.103,0:14:31.691 All examples are in front of us. 0:14:31.691,0:14:35.270 We also side by side worked with [br]woman self fill groups in Andhra Pradesh. 0:14:35.675,0:14:39.660 These are cover stories of "Down To Earth"[br]magazine which tracked the whole change. 0:14:39.660,0:14:42.850 We started with 225 acres in 2005. 0:14:43.540,0:14:49.370 Today its 35,00,000 acre in Andhra Pradesh[br]and Telangana together pesticide free. 0:14:49.649,0:14:50.849 (Applause) 0:14:51.028,0:14:54.182 50% use of pesticide [br]in state has come down. 0:14:56.969,0:14:59.380 We were 3rd in country [br]in terms of pesticide used 0:14:59.432,0:15:02.416 today we are 20th in the country. 0:15:02.510,0:15:03.606 (Applause) 0:15:03.915,0:15:06.575 This was part of a show on Satyamev Jayate 0:15:06.575,0:15:08.112 some of you might have seen. 0:15:08.112,0:15:10.437 In this show we had interesting discussion[br] 0:15:10.437,0:15:14.336 On the other side was person[br]who was largest pesticide seller in country 0:15:14.845,0:15:16.726 Towards end Amir Khan asked me a question, 0:15:16.726,0:15:19.250 "I am fully convienced with[br]what you're saying and what you're doing 0:15:19.530,0:15:23.451 It is possible to do it India. But how to [br]convince man who is sitting here? 0:15:23.766,0:15:27.638 I said ask his brother, His brother is [br]largest organic exporter in this country. 0:15:27.638,0:15:30.653 (Applause) 0:15:32.066,0:15:33.426 And he said, "Yes." 0:15:34.478,0:15:36.805 That shows people see it as business. 0:15:36.805,0:15:41.512 If they sell pesticide, will sell pesticide[br]if they sell organic, will sell organic. 0:15:41.512,0:15:45.359 You buy pesticides or [br]our organic pesticides 0:15:45.960,0:15:49.342 or certificate from us, saying [br]"you haven't used any of these things." 0:15:49.342,0:15:51.799 Farmers are made into consumers. 0:15:52.700,0:15:54.473 But what our consumers are doing? 0:15:54.473,0:15:57.787 Then what we did is we brought [br]some consumers in Hyderabad together 0:15:57.787,0:16:00.261 to form a consumer cooperative called[br]Sahaja Aharam. 0:16:00.261,0:16:03.434 We also brought all farmers together [br]to form farmers cooperative 0:16:03.504,0:16:06.078 So that they can market directly. 0:16:06.420,0:16:08.380 Today we've 20 farmer cooperatives 0:16:08.555,0:16:12.444 who produce organically [br]and directly sell in the market. 0:16:12.574,0:16:15.386 While many of you worry about [br]organic food prices. 0:16:16.058,0:16:20.498 The oraganic Sahaja Aharam prices are [br]20% lower than the market prices. 0:16:20.498,0:16:24.944 And 75% of what consumer pays go to farmer. 0:16:25.579,0:16:29.170 In the regular market just 20%[br]which goes to farmer. 0:16:29.170,0:16:32.481 (Applause) 0:16:32.481,0:16:34.204 What do I see from here? 0:16:34.204,0:16:35.772 I see a ray of hope. 0:16:35.772,0:16:37.153 It's possible. 0:16:37.153,0:16:40.056 If all of us can join together [br]we can make a change. 0:16:40.056,0:16:43.559 But it's long way to go [br]in terms of Government Policies. 0:16:43.559,0:16:46.089 Still there is serious crisis in agricuture. 0:16:46.089,0:16:48.487 Yesterday you might have seen[br]about farmer's suicide. 0:16:48.487,0:16:50.647 Today mornings newspaper,[br]you might have seen. 0:16:50.818,0:16:52.511 Number of farmers are dying. 0:16:52.511,0:16:54.493 It's a responsibility of all of us. 0:16:54.493,0:16:56.377 Business as usual is not an option. 0:16:56.377,0:17:00.493 We need to change as consumers[br]we need change as farmers 0:17:00.493,0:17:04.552 We all need to come together [br]to pressurize government 0:17:04.552,0:17:05.913 to make a change. 0:17:05.913,0:17:08.252 Otherwise, the future is very very glee. 0:17:08.252,0:17:10.222 Thank you. 0:17:10.272,0:17:13.302 (Applause)