WEBVTT 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Janine Antoni: Milagros] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know, a lot of people don't know 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 what the coccyx looks like, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but really, it's the site of our severed tail. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I love the cup of the sacrum and the cup of the hand, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 as if they're about to shake hands. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So this is a very unusual--and impossible-- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 coming together of two body parts. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The whole idea around this work was really about grafting. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 When you graft one plant to another, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 then they fuse together. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 For years, I've been fascinated with 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 these things called 'milagros'. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They're found in Portugal, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in Spain, in Mexico, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and in Brazil. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The ones that people are most familiar with are 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 these small medallions that are shaped like 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 an arm, or a leg, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or a heart. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But they also have them in three dimensions. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The way they're used is that 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if you have an ailment-- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 if you have a problem with your foot-- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you would go and buy one of these, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and you'd take it to the church. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They hang them on the ceilings of the church, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so the entire ceiling is filled with body parts. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I was very inspired by these more simple milagros 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that are more generalized. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In a way, that foot becomes anyone's foot. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I started with very specific pairings that I was interested in, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and then I took those gestures 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and I made milagros out of them. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I mean, all the pieces have been sanded 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for days and days and days. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They feel like they've been weathered 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 by something that seems familiar, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 like a piece of sea glass in the ocean. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The fact that you feel that this thing has a history, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I think that's important. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You know, here I am, cutting the body up into parts, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and not thinking about the importance of the sever. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And so to acknowledge that sever was, I think, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 crucial to whole installation. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 ['Within' -- Janine Antoni] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And so, the first thing that you witness 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 when you come into the space 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is a sever-- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and a very dramatic sever-- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and this ascension into the ceiling. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Initially, I wanted to hang the roots from the ceiling, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and hang the milagros them. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 This trunk is kind of grafted to the building itself, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and then when the trunk goes through the ceiling, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it's grafted to a table on the second floor 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 with milagros. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 When I was a little girl, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I had an aunt-- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 her name was Auntie Eileen. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 She came over every Tuesday to have tea-- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 she was English. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And, I would sit and have tea with her, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and she would teach me how to drink tea like a lady. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Part of that was learning how to cross my legs. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I thought it was funny to take the bone from one leg 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and cross it with the skin of the other leg. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I sunk that bone right into the thigh 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so that they are really fused together. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So in the piece, there's really no chance 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 of uncrossing my legs. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 When you stand in front of the object, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I want you to imagine how it's been made. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And the reality is that 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we are in contact with a lot of objects 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and we have no idea how they are made. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Making any of my work is a form of healing-- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that, in making, I can somehow locate myself 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in relationship to others 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and my environment. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 If somebody comes along 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and my work resonates for them, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that's when I feel less alone-- 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that I'm not as strange as I feel. 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