1 00:00:01,028 --> 00:00:02,731 As you've probably noticed, 2 00:00:02,755 --> 00:00:05,932 in recent years, a lot of western forests have burned 3 00:00:05,956 --> 00:00:09,568 in large and destructive wildfires. 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,063 If you're like me -- 5 00:00:12,087 --> 00:00:16,599 this western landscape is actually why my family and I live here. 6 00:00:17,558 --> 00:00:19,848 And as a scientist and a father, 7 00:00:19,872 --> 00:00:23,943 I've become deeply concerned about what we're leaving behind 8 00:00:23,967 --> 00:00:27,376 for our kids, and now my five grandkids. 9 00:00:28,756 --> 00:00:33,629 In the US, an area that's larger than the state of Oregon has burned 10 00:00:33,653 --> 00:00:35,453 in just the last 10 years, 11 00:00:36,342 --> 00:00:40,192 and tens of thousands of homes have been destroyed. 12 00:00:41,098 --> 00:00:45,862 Acres burned and homes destroyed have steadily increased 13 00:00:45,886 --> 00:00:48,845 over the last three decades, 14 00:00:50,328 --> 00:00:55,784 and individual fires that are bigger than 100,000 acres -- 15 00:00:55,808 --> 00:00:57,436 they're actually on the rise. 16 00:00:57,460 --> 00:01:00,230 These are what we call "megafires." 17 00:01:01,229 --> 00:01:05,999 Megafires are the result of the way we've managed this western landscape 18 00:01:06,023 --> 00:01:08,639 over the last 150 years 19 00:01:08,663 --> 00:01:10,776 in a steadily warming climate. 20 00:01:11,890 --> 00:01:15,576 Much of the destruction that we are currently seeing 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,535 could actually have been avoided. 22 00:01:18,616 --> 00:01:22,138 I've spent my entire career studying these western landscapes, 23 00:01:22,162 --> 00:01:24,130 and the science is pretty clear: 24 00:01:24,911 --> 00:01:28,929 if we don't change a few of our fire-management habits, 25 00:01:29,996 --> 00:01:33,377 we're going to lose many more of our beloved forests. 26 00:01:34,062 --> 00:01:36,753 Some won't recover in our lifetime 27 00:01:37,411 --> 00:01:39,579 or my kids' lifetime. 28 00:01:39,603 --> 00:01:43,982 It's time we confront some tough truths about wildfires, 29 00:01:44,006 --> 00:01:48,113 and come to understand that we need to learn to better live with them 30 00:01:49,162 --> 00:01:52,112 and change how they come to our forests, 31 00:01:52,829 --> 00:01:54,242 our homes 32 00:01:55,047 --> 00:01:56,591 and our communities. 33 00:01:57,654 --> 00:01:59,484 So why is this happening? 34 00:01:59,508 --> 00:02:02,134 Well, that's what I want to talk to you about today. 35 00:02:04,180 --> 00:02:05,808 You see this forest? 36 00:02:08,536 --> 00:02:10,161 Isn't it beautiful? 37 00:02:17,877 --> 00:02:20,116 Well, the forests that we see today 38 00:02:21,108 --> 00:02:26,531 look nothing like the forests of 100 or 150 years ago. 39 00:02:27,318 --> 00:02:30,981 Thankfully, panoramic photos were taken in the 1930s 40 00:02:31,005 --> 00:02:34,893 from thousands of western mountaintop lookouts, 41 00:02:34,917 --> 00:02:37,356 and they show a fair approximation 42 00:02:37,380 --> 00:02:39,224 of the forest that we inherited. 43 00:02:40,441 --> 00:02:44,558 The best word to describe these forests of old is "patchy." 44 00:02:45,303 --> 00:02:49,301 The historical forest landscape was this constantly evolving patchwork 45 00:02:49,325 --> 00:02:53,084 of open and closed canopy forests of all ages, 46 00:02:53,108 --> 00:02:56,600 and there was so much evidence of fire. 47 00:02:57,759 --> 00:03:01,467 And most fires were pretty small by today's standards. 48 00:03:02,070 --> 00:03:06,078 And it's important to understand that this landscape was open, 49 00:03:06,102 --> 00:03:08,624 with meadows and open canopy forests, 50 00:03:08,648 --> 00:03:10,924 and it was the grasses of the meadows 51 00:03:10,948 --> 00:03:14,420 and in the grassy understories of the open forest 52 00:03:14,444 --> 00:03:17,424 that many of the wildfires were carried. 53 00:03:19,797 --> 00:03:23,859 There were other forces at work, too, shaping this historical patchwork: 54 00:03:23,883 --> 00:03:27,703 for example, topography, whether a place faces north or south 55 00:03:27,727 --> 00:03:30,425 or it's on a ridge top or in a valley bottom; 56 00:03:30,449 --> 00:03:33,294 elevation, how far up the mountain it is; 57 00:03:33,318 --> 00:03:37,914 and weather, whether a place gets a lot of snow and rain, 58 00:03:37,938 --> 00:03:39,986 sunlight and warmth. 59 00:03:40,010 --> 00:03:43,079 These things all worked together 60 00:03:43,103 --> 00:03:45,006 to shape the way the forest grew. 61 00:03:45,974 --> 00:03:51,139 And the way the forest grew shaped the way fire behaved 62 00:03:51,163 --> 00:03:52,511 on the landscape. 63 00:03:53,431 --> 00:03:58,680 There was crosstalk between the patterns and the processes. 64 00:03:58,704 --> 00:04:00,601 You can see the new dry forest. 65 00:04:00,625 --> 00:04:03,827 Trees were open grown and fairly far apart. 66 00:04:03,851 --> 00:04:06,296 Fires were frequent here, and when they occurred, 67 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,898 they weren't that severe, 68 00:04:07,922 --> 00:04:09,352 while further up the mountain, 69 00:04:09,376 --> 00:04:11,499 in the moist and the cold forests, 70 00:04:11,523 --> 00:04:14,761 trees were more densely grown and fires were less frequent, 71 00:04:14,785 --> 00:04:18,103 but when they occurred, they were quite a bit more severe. 72 00:04:18,127 --> 00:04:21,770 These different forest types, the environments that they grew in 73 00:04:21,794 --> 00:04:24,857 and fire severity -- they all worked together 74 00:04:24,881 --> 00:04:27,529 to shape this historical patchwork. 75 00:04:28,429 --> 00:04:31,813 And there was so much power 76 00:04:31,837 --> 00:04:33,340 in this patchwork. 77 00:04:33,904 --> 00:04:36,431 It provided a natural mechanism 78 00:04:36,455 --> 00:04:40,004 to resist the spread of future fires across the landscape. 79 00:04:41,002 --> 00:04:43,148 Once a patch of forest burned, 80 00:04:43,172 --> 00:04:46,447 it helped to prevent the flow of fire across the landscape. 81 00:04:47,046 --> 00:04:48,537 A way to think about it is, 82 00:04:48,561 --> 00:04:53,124 the burned patches helped the rest of the forest 83 00:04:53,148 --> 00:04:55,176 to be forest. 84 00:04:56,677 --> 00:04:58,528 Let's add humans to the mix. 85 00:04:59,144 --> 00:05:02,869 For 10,000 years, Native Americans lived on this landscape, 86 00:05:02,893 --> 00:05:06,426 and they intentionally burned it -- a lot. 87 00:05:07,284 --> 00:05:11,176 They used fire to burn meadows and to thin certain forests 88 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,245 so they could grow more food. 89 00:05:13,269 --> 00:05:16,274 They used fire to increase graze 90 00:05:16,298 --> 00:05:20,134 for the deer and the elk and the bison that they hunted. 91 00:05:20,158 --> 00:05:22,671 And most importantly, they figured out 92 00:05:22,695 --> 00:05:25,321 if they burned in the spring and the fall, 93 00:05:25,345 --> 00:05:28,884 they could avoid the out-of-control fires of summer. 94 00:05:29,508 --> 00:05:33,992 European settlement -- it occurred much later, in the mid-1800s, 95 00:05:34,016 --> 00:05:38,291 and by the 1880s, livestock grazing was in high gear. 96 00:05:38,315 --> 00:05:42,096 I mean, if you think about it, the cattle and the sheep ate the grasses 97 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,161 which had been the conveyer belt for the historical fires, 98 00:05:46,185 --> 00:05:50,279 and this prevented once-frequent fires from thinning out trees 99 00:05:50,303 --> 00:05:51,924 and burning up dead wood. 100 00:05:52,634 --> 00:05:57,713 Later came roads and railroads, and they acted as potent firebreaks, 101 00:05:57,737 --> 00:06:01,709 interrupting further the flow of fire across this landscape. 102 00:06:01,733 --> 00:06:05,593 And then something happened which caused a sudden pivot 103 00:06:05,617 --> 00:06:07,038 in our society. 104 00:06:07,489 --> 00:06:11,562 In 1910, we had a huge wildfire. 105 00:06:11,586 --> 00:06:14,302 It was the size of the state of Connecticut. 106 00:06:15,275 --> 00:06:17,915 We called it "the Big Burn." 107 00:06:17,939 --> 00:06:21,888 It stretched from eastern Washington to western Montana, 108 00:06:21,912 --> 00:06:25,595 and it burned, in a few days, three million acres, 109 00:06:25,619 --> 00:06:30,080 devoured several towns, and it killed 87 people. 110 00:06:30,104 --> 00:06:31,853 Most of them were firefighters. 111 00:06:33,178 --> 00:06:37,161 Because of the Big Burn, wildfire became public enemy number one, 112 00:06:37,185 --> 00:06:40,606 and this would shape the way that we would think about wildfire 113 00:06:40,630 --> 00:06:41,911 in our society 114 00:06:41,935 --> 00:06:43,766 for the next hundred years. 115 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,311 Thereafter, the Forest Service, just five years young at the time, 116 00:06:48,335 --> 00:06:53,467 was tasked with the responsibility of putting out all wildfires 117 00:06:53,491 --> 00:06:57,033 on 193 million acres of public lands, 118 00:06:57,057 --> 00:06:58,997 and they took this responsibility 119 00:06:59,021 --> 00:07:00,184 very seriously. 120 00:07:00,872 --> 00:07:04,822 They developed this unequaled ability to put fires out, 121 00:07:04,846 --> 00:07:08,098 and they put out 95 to 98 percent 122 00:07:08,122 --> 00:07:13,096 of all fires every single year in the US. 123 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,522 And from this point on, it was now fire suppression 124 00:07:17,387 --> 00:07:18,917 and not wildfires 125 00:07:18,941 --> 00:07:22,927 that would become a prime shaper of our forests. 126 00:07:23,943 --> 00:07:27,443 After World War II, timber harvesting got going in the west, 127 00:07:27,467 --> 00:07:30,590 and the logging removed the large and the old trees. 128 00:07:30,614 --> 00:07:35,895 These were survivors of centuries of wildfires. 129 00:07:35,919 --> 00:07:37,851 And the forest filled in. 130 00:07:37,875 --> 00:07:42,796 Thin-barked, fire-sensitive small trees filled in the gaps, 131 00:07:42,820 --> 00:07:48,766 and our forests became dense, with trees so layered and close together 132 00:07:48,790 --> 00:07:50,772 that they were touching each other. 133 00:07:51,357 --> 00:07:55,275 So fires were unintentionally blocked by roads and railroads, 134 00:07:55,299 --> 00:07:57,734 the cattle and sheep ate the grass, 135 00:07:57,758 --> 00:08:02,078 then along comes fire suppression and logging, removing the big trees, 136 00:08:02,102 --> 00:08:03,427 and you know what happened? 137 00:08:03,451 --> 00:08:05,705 All these factors worked together 138 00:08:05,729 --> 00:08:08,614 to allow the forest to fill in, 139 00:08:08,638 --> 00:08:12,617 creating what I call the current epidemic of trees. 140 00:08:13,163 --> 00:08:15,146 (Laughter) 141 00:08:16,678 --> 00:08:17,854 Go figure. 142 00:08:17,878 --> 00:08:18,925 (Laughter) 143 00:08:18,949 --> 00:08:22,545 More trees than the landscape can support. 144 00:08:23,506 --> 00:08:28,266 So when you compare what forests looked like 100 years ago and today, 145 00:08:28,290 --> 00:08:30,776 the change is actually remarkable. 146 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,210 Notice how the patchwork has filled in. 147 00:08:33,234 --> 00:08:34,782 Dry south slopes -- 148 00:08:34,806 --> 00:08:37,099 they're now covered with trees. 149 00:08:37,843 --> 00:08:40,822 A patchwork that was once sculptured by mostly small 150 00:08:40,846 --> 00:08:42,604 and sort of medium-sized fires 151 00:08:42,628 --> 00:08:44,121 has filled in. 152 00:08:44,145 --> 00:08:46,133 Do you see the blanket of trees? 153 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,950 After just 150 years, 154 00:08:48,974 --> 00:08:51,531 we have a dense carpet of forest. 155 00:08:51,555 --> 00:08:53,288 But there's more. 156 00:08:53,312 --> 00:08:56,267 Because trees are growing so close together, 157 00:08:56,291 --> 00:08:59,619 and because tree species, tree sizes and ages 158 00:08:59,643 --> 00:09:03,290 are so similar across large areas, 159 00:09:03,314 --> 00:09:06,341 fires not only move easily from acre to acre, 160 00:09:06,365 --> 00:09:10,462 but now, so do diseases and insect outbreaks, 161 00:09:11,896 --> 00:09:15,224 which are killing or reducing the vitality 162 00:09:15,248 --> 00:09:18,045 of really large sections of forest now. 163 00:09:18,488 --> 00:09:21,347 And after a century without fire, 164 00:09:21,371 --> 00:09:24,950 dead branches and downed trees on the forest floor, 165 00:09:24,974 --> 00:09:27,001 they're at powder-keg levels. 166 00:09:27,956 --> 00:09:30,581 What's more, our summers are getting hotter 167 00:09:30,605 --> 00:09:32,760 and they're getting drier 168 00:09:32,784 --> 00:09:34,606 and they're getting windier. 169 00:09:35,163 --> 00:09:40,656 And the fire season is now 40 to 80 days longer each year. 170 00:09:41,168 --> 00:09:43,668 Because of this, climatologists are predicting 171 00:09:43,692 --> 00:09:46,912 that the area burned since 2000 172 00:09:46,936 --> 00:09:49,721 will double or triple 173 00:09:49,745 --> 00:09:51,649 in the next three decades. 174 00:09:53,015 --> 00:09:56,389 And we're building houses in the middle of this. 175 00:09:56,413 --> 00:09:58,522 Two recently published studies tell us 176 00:09:58,546 --> 00:10:03,083 that more than 60 percent of all new housing starts are being built 177 00:10:03,107 --> 00:10:05,725 in this flammable and dangerous mess. 178 00:10:07,145 --> 00:10:08,987 So when we do get a fire, 179 00:10:09,722 --> 00:10:13,772 large areas can literally go up in smoke. 180 00:10:16,363 --> 00:10:17,948 How do you feel now 181 00:10:19,580 --> 00:10:21,271 about the forest image 182 00:10:22,070 --> 00:10:23,749 that I first showed you? 183 00:10:23,773 --> 00:10:25,722 It scares the heck out of me. 184 00:10:27,729 --> 00:10:29,119 So what do we do? 185 00:10:30,010 --> 00:10:33,520 We need to restore the power of the patchwork. 186 00:10:33,544 --> 00:10:36,693 We need to put the right kind of fire 187 00:10:36,717 --> 00:10:38,619 back into the system again. 188 00:10:38,643 --> 00:10:44,805 It's how we can resize the severity of many of our future fires. 189 00:10:45,277 --> 00:10:47,746 And the silver lining is that we have tools 190 00:10:47,770 --> 00:10:50,244 and we have know-how to do this. 191 00:10:50,268 --> 00:10:52,407 Let's look at some of the tools. 192 00:10:52,431 --> 00:10:57,198 We can use prescribed burning to intentionally thin out trees 193 00:10:57,222 --> 00:10:59,048 and burn up dead fuels. 194 00:10:59,740 --> 00:11:03,829 We do this to systematically reduce them and keep them reduced. 195 00:11:04,785 --> 00:11:06,167 And what is that going to do? 196 00:11:06,191 --> 00:11:09,065 It's going to create already-burned patches on the landscape 197 00:11:09,089 --> 00:11:11,961 that will resist the flow of future fires. 198 00:11:12,389 --> 00:11:15,701 We can combine mechanical thinning with some of these treatments 199 00:11:15,725 --> 00:11:17,416 where it's appropriate to do so, 200 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,214 and capture some commercial value 201 00:11:19,238 --> 00:11:22,169 and perhaps underwrite some of these treatments, 202 00:11:22,193 --> 00:11:24,742 especially around urban areas. 203 00:11:24,766 --> 00:11:27,997 And the best news of all is that prescribed burning produces 204 00:11:28,021 --> 00:11:31,677 so much less smoke than wildfires do. 205 00:11:31,701 --> 00:11:33,050 It's not even close. 206 00:11:33,074 --> 00:11:34,301 But there's a hitch: 207 00:11:34,962 --> 00:11:39,951 prescribed burning smoke is currently regulated under air quality rules 208 00:11:39,975 --> 00:11:41,910 as an avoidable nuisance. 209 00:11:42,557 --> 00:11:44,238 But wildfire smoke? 210 00:11:44,262 --> 00:11:46,304 It simply gets a pass. 211 00:11:48,153 --> 00:11:50,718 Makes sense, doesn't it? (Laughs) 212 00:11:50,742 --> 00:11:52,017 So you know what happens? 213 00:11:52,041 --> 00:11:55,288 We do far too little prescribed burning, 214 00:11:55,312 --> 00:11:59,123 and we continually eat smoke in the summers 215 00:11:59,147 --> 00:12:00,548 from megafires. 216 00:12:00,572 --> 00:12:04,237 We all need to work together to get this changed. 217 00:12:04,711 --> 00:12:06,672 And finally, there's managed wildfires. 218 00:12:06,696 --> 00:12:09,323 Instead of putting all the fires out, 219 00:12:09,903 --> 00:12:12,432 we need to put some of them back to work 220 00:12:12,456 --> 00:12:15,447 thinning forests and reducing dead fuels. 221 00:12:16,005 --> 00:12:18,672 We can herd them around the landscape 222 00:12:18,696 --> 00:12:20,609 when it's appropriate to do so 223 00:12:20,633 --> 00:12:24,536 to help restore the power of the patchwork. 224 00:12:26,623 --> 00:12:30,362 And as you've probably figured out by now, 225 00:12:30,386 --> 00:12:32,592 this is actually a social problem. 226 00:12:32,616 --> 00:12:35,599 It's got ecological and climate explanations, 227 00:12:35,623 --> 00:12:40,319 but it's a social problem, and it will take us humans to solve it. 228 00:12:41,026 --> 00:12:43,458 Public support for these tools is poor. 229 00:12:43,482 --> 00:12:47,164 Prescribed burning and managed wildfires are not well-supported. 230 00:12:47,188 --> 00:12:51,836 We actually all simply want fires to magically go away 231 00:12:52,455 --> 00:12:55,670 and take that pesky smoke with them, don't we? 232 00:12:57,122 --> 00:13:02,150 But there is no future without lots of fire and lots of smoke. 233 00:13:02,174 --> 00:13:04,753 That option is actually not on the table. 234 00:13:07,038 --> 00:13:12,219 Until we, the owners of public lands, make it our high priority 235 00:13:12,243 --> 00:13:14,956 to do something about the current situation, 236 00:13:16,002 --> 00:13:19,623 we're going to experience continued losses to megafires. 237 00:13:19,647 --> 00:13:21,164 So it's up to us. 238 00:13:21,569 --> 00:13:24,288 We can spread this message to our lawmakers, 239 00:13:24,312 --> 00:13:27,751 folks who can help us manage our fires 240 00:13:28,265 --> 00:13:30,137 and our forests. 241 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:35,502 If we're unsuccessful, 242 00:13:37,190 --> 00:13:39,196 where will you go to play 243 00:13:40,140 --> 00:13:42,802 when your favorite places are burned black? 244 00:13:45,096 --> 00:13:46,530 Where will you go 245 00:13:47,298 --> 00:13:48,762 to breathe deep 246 00:13:50,052 --> 00:13:51,375 and slow? 247 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,254 Thank you. 248 00:13:53,278 --> 00:13:57,289 (Applause)