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Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.89,0:00:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,IDA APPLEBROOG: My name is Ida Applebroog.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.96,0:00:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It used to be Applebaum, my maiden name,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.44,0:00:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then when I got married it was Horowitz,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.12,0:00:25.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I really did not want a name that came from
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.72,0:00:29.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,either my father or from any other male member,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.72,0:00:31.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so I invented my own.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.00,0:00:36.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Andrew, why don’t you line this...this girl.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.48,0:00:37.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Line her up on the other end.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.81,0:00:38.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ANDREW: Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.73,0:00:42.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,APPLEBROOG: Try and connect the dots, Andrew.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.28,0:00:50.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s the hand, the other hand.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.90,0:00:51.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ANDREW: This is the other hand?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.67,0:00:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,APPLEBROOG: Yes. Can’t you tell?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.24,0:00:56.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,APPLEBROOG: It’s hard to \Nsay what is your work about.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.60,0:00:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But for me it’s really how power works,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.08,0:01:02.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,male over female, parents over children,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.52,0:01:06.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,governments over people, doctors over patients.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.16,0:01:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Coming out of the ’50s, \Nwomen were pretty invisible.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.56,0:01:14.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it never occurred to me anything was \Nwrong, that’s just the way things were.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.28,0:01:18.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I used to be very flattered \Nwhen a teacher would say to me
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.20,0:01:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh you’re working is so interesting and good.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.28,0:01:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It looks just like man’s.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.48,0:01:27.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a real problem with feminism and art.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.28,0:01:31.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never liked the all women shows.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.28,0:01:34.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It labels us, it ghettoizes us.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.28,0:01:39.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hate being labeled. I really hate being labeled.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.00,0:01:42.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came to New York in about ’74.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.24,0:01:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I didn’t know anyone in \NNew York. I was a New Yorker.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.80,0:01:47.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’d been away for a long, long time.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.76,0:01:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I came back and I really didn’t \Nknow how to enter the art world again.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.20,0:01:57.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started to go back to my roots.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.88,0:02:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just doing drawings, and \Ndrawing and drawing and drawing.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.16,0:02:06.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And from these drawings I started making books.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.24,0:02:13.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I took these books and I would mail \Nthem out to people I did not know.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.20,0:02:20.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess I was a nuisance.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.40,0:02:24.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I use a lot of repetition.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.68,0:02:27.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then it becomes a filmic way of talking
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.16,0:02:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because as you put the same image after the other,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.92,0:02:32.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though it’s the exact, identical image,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.36,0:02:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone sees something changing \Nfrom one image to the next.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.92,0:02:39.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They’re just really bizarre \Nbecause I know what I’ve done,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.88,0:02:43.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they see actual gestures and they \Nsee actual changes in the expression,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.88,0:02:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I’ve never put there.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.84,0:02:47.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that’s not the reason why I do repetitive,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.72,0:02:49.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it’s just because it’s a performance
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.56,0:02:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it’s sort of my way of animating \None image from one image to the next
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.20,0:02:57.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without the image actually changing.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.00,0:03:02.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I work with canvases I work \Nwith three dimensional structures.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.92,0:03:08.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the structure was as important \Nas whatever it was I was painting.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.72,0:03:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I love the fragmentation,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.12,0:03:14.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because my work has always \Nbeen about fragmentation.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.52,0:03:22.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even though the work is not comfortable work,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.16,0:03:26.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel like the paint is absolutely beautiful,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.84,0:03:28.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love the coloration,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.76,0:03:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it’s almost like I’m creating \Nfly paper to sort of get you to…
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.52,0:03:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over to look at the kinds of brush strokes.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.72,0:03:41.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s interesting looking enough \Nto draw the viewer into it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.72,0:03:42.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then once they’re there,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.60,0:03:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they’re sort of confronted with \Nmaterial that they have to think about
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.76,0:03:47.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or just walk away from.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.56,0:03:51.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do a lot of work on murders and serial murders
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.16,0:03:56.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and rapes and ageism and sexism \Nand AIDS and child abuse.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.32,0:04:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I live in this world, now this \Nis what’s going on around me.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.56,0:04:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can’t change that.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.56,0:04:06.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first time I ever did know I was an artist
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.48,0:04:08.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is when I was about five years-old.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.20,0:04:11.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted my father to draw something for me
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.40,0:04:13.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what he drew for me was a stick figure.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.64,0:04:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I showed him what I can do
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.60,0:04:20.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and at that moment I knew I \Nwas the artist and he wasn’t.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.92,0:04:24.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was my first \Nrecognition of being an artist,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.18,0:04:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in a way, that’s what these are.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.48,0:04:33.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are like the first recognition \Nof making marks with some material.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.32,0:04:37.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you take whatever it is that you know
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.100,0:04:40.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and bring it down to its most simplistic level,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.84,0:04:46.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so it becomes a sort of \Nsomething that’s a part of you,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.52,0:04:48.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that just pours out and pours out.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.52,0:04:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Comes to the point where you \Ndon’t even have to think about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.16,0:04:53.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These things just make themselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.00,0:05:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s a very calming activity to just sit \Nthere and have the clay in your hands
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.92,0:05:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just put out these things.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.74,0:05:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They’re crude, they’re weird,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.00,0:05:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they’re wonderful to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.28,0:05:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I’ve been in the art world for a long time.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.92,0:05:18.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet when I do this,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.32,0:05:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it brings me back to just the \Nbasic way of how I might think,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.04,0:05:27.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is who I am.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.80,0:05:36.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,—Andrew, you’re high on your side\Nif you can lower it to read his lip,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.04,0:05:37.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will be good enough.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.92,0:05:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone once said this,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.28,0:05:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with art it has to be either \Ntoo much or not enough.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.16,0:05:51.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s so much coming out at one time for me,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.56,0:05:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that even the sorting of them
Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.80,0:05:54.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and trying to put it into order
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.84,0:05:56.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is something I’ve been unable to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.52,0:05:59.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like that. I like the feeling.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.16,0:06:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t consider myself a sculptor or a painter
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.32,0:06:04.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a book artist or a conceptual artist.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.20,0:06:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just make art.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.84,0:06:11.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These little pieces that seem \Nso ordinary and like nothing,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.60,0:06:13.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little mounds of clay
Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.04,0:06:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if I place it suddenly on \Nmy stage become monumental.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.78,0:06:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you photograph them any way you like,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.24,0:06:27.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can zoom in on any \Npart of the body you like,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.28,0:06:30.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they become something totally different.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.52,0:06:36.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Best part about these is I \Nreally never know sort of
Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.22,0:06:38.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what these things are going to morph into.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.16,0:06:40.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean you become a hair dresser,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.60,0:06:42.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a stylist, a photographer.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.00,0:06:46.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I’ll start with these little sculptures.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.04,0:06:52.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will have the single figure that I will \Npose and place in front of the black curtain.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.24,0:06:55.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything else has to happen \Nwith the camera at that point.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.56,0:06:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In terms of how many ways you can pose it.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.36,0:07:04.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every time you change something the \Nkind of portrait that I’m doing changes.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.40,0:07:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This one is of the Venus de \NWillendorf and we give her her hair,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.36,0:07:12.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nice red curly hair.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.48,0:07:17.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we decided to change \Nthe color of her hair where,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.84,0:07:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much more of a grayish color.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.36,0:07:22.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we go closer.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.68,0:07:25.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Looks like her tongue, sort of licking her lips.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.60,0:07:28.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know there are some that someone will look at
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.60,0:07:29.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say I can’t stand looking at that.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.96,0:07:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Makes me very uncomfortable.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.52,0:07:34.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That’s good too.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.24,0:07:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My work is not about beauty,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.24,0:07:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I know it does not hang \Nover a couch very well,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.20,0:07:45.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,matching the burgundy colors on the pillows.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.20,0:07:47.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It’s not work one hangs over a couch in that way.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.04,0:07:49.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I make the work,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.40,0:07:51.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I make it because for me it’s necessary.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.21,0:07:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Other people make work for them that’s \Nnecessary in a whole different way.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.92,0:07:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is just my way.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.20,0:08:01.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was actually computer illiterate.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.08,0:08:03.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was no way I was going to \Nbother turning on a computer.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.96,0:08:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn’t want emails,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.96,0:08:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn’t want to have to deal with that.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.92,0:08:09.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was too old. And this was last year.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.72,0:08:13.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I start to go to the Apple workshop
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.44,0:08:17.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and took everything that they had \Non the schedule in the calendar,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.68,0:08:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and from that point on I found \Nsomeone who I’d known for a long time
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.76,0:08:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was very good at working the computer.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.64,0:08:27.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She started to work with me and \Nthat’s how this all came about.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.15,0:08:32.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,SPEAKER: I added some yellow, both to \Nthe black and then to the mid tones.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.97,0:08:34.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,APPLEBROOG: That’s very, very good.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.31,0:08:37.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,APPLEBROOG: So what we’re doing right now
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.08,0:08:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is we’re trying out the new paper to see \Nwhat it gives us in terms of the color.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.00,0:08:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By trial and error we’ve \Nsort of come to this point.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.66,0:08:53.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,APPLEBROOG: Wow, so that’s the cream paper?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.46,0:08:54.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,SPEAKER: Right.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.20,0:08:57.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,APPLEBROOG: It makes quite a difference. \NIt’s like night and day here.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.07,0:08:59.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,SPEAKER: Yeah, I think it looks a lot richer.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.87,0:09:02.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,APPLEBROOG: It’s beautiful. It’s \Nlike...it’s lit from inside.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.48,0:09:06.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uh, I’m going to...I need to \Nwork on her braces right now.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.56,0:09:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will be doing some small editions
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.76,0:09:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but for the most part they will \Nbe singling at eight pieces.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.12,0:09:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t feel that’s any \Ndifferent from doing painting or
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.68,0:09:21.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sculpting or drawing or anything else.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.96,0:09:23.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That’s just another way of making art,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.40,0:09:25.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using the technology.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.60,0:09:34.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For a while, because of aging and arthritis \Nand everything else that goes with it,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.36,0:09:35.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was very incapacitated.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.24,0:09:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that’s why doing these \Nsculptures was an incredible thing 
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.76,0:09:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to happen to me at that point.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.56,0:09:43.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I ended up on this route.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.36,0:09:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No matter what I see, no matter \Nwhat I do, it all feeds me.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.92,0:09:51.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anybody that creates, they’re \Ngoing to find a way to create.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.76,0:09:52.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn’t matter how.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.08,0:10:01.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can not believe there’s a reawakening \Nof every juice in my body at…
Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.04,0:10:03.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at this point in my life, \Nwhich is incredible for me.