[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Glamour Dolls failed to comply with Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those obligations when it engaged in a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,failed online advertising campaign on Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kickstarter, using LFI, Lisa Frank's brand Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without LFI's approval and then refused to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pay royalties due when LFI properly Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,terminated the party's contracts as a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,result of Glamour Dolls' misconduct. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wait a minute. She didn't know about the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kickstarter? Hello my friend, I will Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,honestly tell you that until late last Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,night, I did not think that I was filming Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a video about Lisa Frank and Glamour Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dolls today. I actually had a full video Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,planned about preservative-free cosmetics Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how freaking ridiculous and dangerous Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,preservative-free cosmetics are. But then Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got a very interesting comment from a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,person named "Fake Goth Girl." Okay. I get Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a link. The link is to a court document Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I had not previously had access to. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This document is Lisa Frank's point of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,view. It is her counter suit. This is Lisa Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Frank saying "Glamour Dolls is the bad Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guy, not me. I didn't do anything wrong - Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're the ones that did something Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wrong." So in today's video, I want to go Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over Lisa's side of things - what she says Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the court documents is the reason why Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she pulled out of her contract with Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Glamour Dolls that left backers of the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kickstarter out all of their money - over Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,$400,000 of their money, including my Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,money. My $75? Gone. If you have no idea Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I'm talking about, that's because Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is Part 2. I strongly strongly Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suggest you please watch Part 1 of this. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will be linked below. It will be up in Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a card. It is the background for this Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,video - this video might not make sense Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you don't watch that one first. If you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't feel like you have time for an hour Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a half long video, what you can do is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can scrub through the timestamps, kind Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of get the idea of what it is. You can Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also play it on 1.5 speed if you want to. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I will tell you that the average Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amount of watch time on that video for a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,single view is about 40 minutes. That has Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,literally never happened on my channel. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a story that I think you want to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hear and and that I think that you are Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to be engaged in if you choose to. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That being said, we are starting at Part Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2. I'm assuming at this point that you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have seen that video and that you have Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that background knowledge. And also, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,side note, I mentioned this at the end of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the video, but there's probably about 40 Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comments mentioning Bailey Sarian's video Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on Lisa Frank, based on the Jezebel Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,article that we talked about in the first Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of this. Yes, I am fully aware of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bailey's video. I have met Bailey. I have Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,collaborated with Bailey. Bailey did a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fantastic job on that video. That video is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more about Lisa Frank as a person, so if Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you want even more context for the story, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I highly recommend you go watch Bailey's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,video as well. What we're gonna do with Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this part is I'm actually gonna put Lisa Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Frank's lawsuit on the side of me so if Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are fluent in Legalese, you can follow Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,along and see the match up of what I'm Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying. Surprisingly, a lot of is is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pretty clear cut and there isn't a ton of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lawyer language in this that was difficult Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to understand. So if you would like to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,read along, it is going to be next to me Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over here. Here we go. So this is what Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lisa says. This is her side of things. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is all about the deal in 2016, the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,original deal that she had. Lisa says they Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,struck the deal in June of 2016 that would Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,end on December 31st of 2017 - that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,matches up with Glamour Dolls' side, so Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm assuming there's legal contracts, so Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's evidence of this. So Glamour Dolls Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that original contract, agreed to pay Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lisa Frank 15% royalty on the net sales Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the products made under the deal, with Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a minimum payment of $100,000 for the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,duration of the agreement, including a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,$25,000 advance. Glamour Dolls promised to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do their best, to make, sell, promote, and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,market the products to get as many sales Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as possible, always focusing on high Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quality. Now this part is very very Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important because this is really the root Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of why everything went wrong. They had to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get Lisa Frank's approval on literally Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything, from the design concepts to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the artwork, to the molds for production, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the final product samples before going Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into production. Lisa Frank had the right Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to approve or reject the elements and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Glamour Dolls had to follow Lisa Frank's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,directions on quality standards. Now Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listen to this because this is part of the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reason why things were taking so long. So, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for designs, Glamour Dolls had to wait up Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to 10 business days - that's about two Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weeks or so - for Lisa Frank to approve Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or reject anything that they submitted to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her. If Lisa didn't respond in time, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Glamour Dolls was allowed to ask after Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those 10 business days, "Hey, what's going Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on? I need a full description of why you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reject this or I need an approval." But Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is the kicker! Because even after Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approval, and remember, this is according Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Lisa herself, Lisa could stop the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,production and distribution of the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,products if they didn't meet her quality Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,standards. That's a subjective thing - Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is not something that can be Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,measured. Lisa can just for any reason, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just say "This doesn't meet my quality Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,standards" and stop production at any Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,point. And it wasn't just for production Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of product. It also had to do with Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advertising, packaging, display methods, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,press releases - anything using Lisa Frank Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,artwork - Glamour Dolls had to run this by Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lisa. They had to wait for those 10 Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business days and then if she didn't Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,respond in 10 business days, then they had Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to poke her about it and be like "Dude, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's going on?" They had to keep poking Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her if she didn't respond after those 10 Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business days. So remember this original Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contract that I personally believe was to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,create the blush, the highlighter, and the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two brushes - that contract was ending Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in December. But remember the Kickstarter Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had started in February. We're now in Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,December. February - they promised backers Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,10 additional products beyond these four Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that had already been funded. Lisa's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contract is about to end, so they need to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,start a new contract. This is what Lisa Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,says was in the new contract: same 15% Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,royalty on the net sales of the products Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plus 20% royalty on sales made directly to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,retail customers. So this would be if Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people bought it off of Ipsy's marketplace Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or if people bought it from Hot Topic, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or at one point they were talking to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Walmart - any of those, Lisa would get a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,20% royalty off of. Beyond that, in the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first contract, Lisa asked for at least Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,$100,000 for her fees. In the new Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contract, Lisa upped that to $500,000. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That included an up front payment of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,$125,000 that needed to be paid when the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contract was signed. Three more payments Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would be paid throughout the year to total Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that $500,000. The rules for making the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,products were pretty much the same as the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first contract. All of the levels of "you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to send it to Lisa and she needs to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approve it" and then the 10 business days Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- all of that was pretty much the same. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only thing that changed, which we'll Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find out more about in just a minute, is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they did not have to get pre-shipment Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approval. So Lisa has already approved Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the final draft of the product, they have Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put that into production, they now have Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the products - they've got thousands and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thousands of these products - they don't Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to send those products to Lisa for Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approval anymore. But there is a clause - Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of course there is - if there were Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any production problems, if after all of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these things were sent out and Lisa Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decided that there was a production Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problem, there was something she didn't Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, Glamour Dolls would have to pay Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,damages for that. What would those Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,damages be? I have no idea, it's not in Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here. Another thing that's very important Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Lisa's side of the story is that they Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said that Lisa could end the deal Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,immediately if Glamour Dolls broke certain Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rules, like not following the approval Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,process or having production issues 3 Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,times. If Lisa decided that she was Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to terminate the agreement, Glamour Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dolls had to not only stop making Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,products, they had to stop selling their Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,existing products. Then they had to turn Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over the rights to the artwork. Anything Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Lisa had created for Glamour Dolls Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would now be owned by Lisa. And you might Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be seeing where this might be going - Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe if you watched part 1. Because she Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did that. That happened. In context. you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to remember that this is 3 months Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,past the date that Glamour Dolls had Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,promised products would be done and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shipped to backers. So they are deep deep Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in it now. They are sending out that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,digital Christmas card, where people can Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,send it to their families, saying "Hey, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, you might be getting some Lisa Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Frank products that I bought for you at Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some point. This is what's coming." That's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we're at. A lot of the backers are Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,already irritated by this point. From Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lisa's side, she says in her court Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,documents that LFI, or Lisa Frank Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Incorporated, fully performed its Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obligations under the license agreements - Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do believe Glamour Dolls would argue Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against that. They say specifically Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Glamour Dolls repeatedly failed to meet Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their responsibilities under the agreemnts Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they had with Lisa Frank. This is how Lisa Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,says Glamour Dolls messed up. And Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remember, she's going to have to prove Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this for her counter suit. This is what Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she says - she says they didn't put in Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enough effort to produce, distribute, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,promote, and sell the products that they Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were supposed to. She says that they Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't aim to sell as many high quality Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,products as they could, that they had Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,signed off in their contract. She says \Nthat Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they use Lisa Frank artwork in ads and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,packaging without getting approval first, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was against their rules of the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contract. She says Glamour Dolls was late Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in making and delivering the products, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which they were. She says that Glamour Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dolls didn't follow the agreed upon Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,process for getting products inspected Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and approved, that they didn't pay the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,royalties and the minimum amounts that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were supposed to, and that they used Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Kickstarter to sell products without Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting the okay from Lisa Frank Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Incorporated, which was of course not Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allowed. Finally, they say that Glamour Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dolls promised products to backers and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then never shipped them out, which is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,true. But the question is: why didn't they Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ship them out? What was stopping them Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from doing it? Was it a fault of Glamour Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dolls or was it a fault of Lisa? We're Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still in Lisa's perspective, so let's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,follow that. Lisa says that even through Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of the things that I just listed - the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things that are in Lisa's filing - she Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,continued to try to work with Glamour Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dolls to make things work. She says she Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did this only because she felt like, if Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she didn't continue with Glamour Dolls and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see this through and get the backers what Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they ordered, that it would damage Lisa Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Frank. It would damage her and her brand. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It wasn't about making sure that people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got what they paid for, it was about the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,damage it would cause to her reputation Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and her brand's reputation. She says in Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her statement that, you know, that Glamour Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dolls had made all these promises and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they failed to go through on them, that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they even said that they were shipping Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things to people that they never shipped Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to them, which I don't know if it's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually true. Because from what I've Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seen, anybody that was supposed to get Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the eyeshadow and the bronzer and the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,postcard did get those things. There is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some question, at least in the comments Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,underneath my last video of whether people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who ordered the brush separately, whether Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they actually got their brush. So maybe Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what Lisa is talking about. Lisa Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,says that Glamour Dolls ignored rules Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they had to follow to get Lisa's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approval before making anything. She says Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they attempted to make or change Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,products without talking to her first. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also that they didn't give her the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,samples required that she needed to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,review. The perspective here is that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of those failures, people started Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blaming Lisa Frank and not Glamour Dolls, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where she's saying it wasn't her fault, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was Glamour Dolls' fault. She said that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people began to think that Lisa Frank was Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scamming them, leaving negative comments Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and complaints online that damaged LFI's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reputation. It was only because Glamour Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dolls broke their side of the contract Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so many times that she ended the contract Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,formally in July of 2018, which is what Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Glamour Dolls had said, that she abruptly Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just ended the contract. What Glamour Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dolls had said was before she ended the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contract, she required them to pay that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,final $125,000 to her and then once she Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,got the money, she terminated the contract Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that they didn't know she was going to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do that when she took the money. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Supposedly, LFI reminded Glamour Dolls Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they needed to do the things that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were in the contract, that if she ended Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it, that they needed to do - things like Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,returning all the artwork and paying any Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,royalties owed. However, she says Glamour Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dolls didn't pay what they owed or follow Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through on other responsibilities after Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the termination, leading to more problems Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and losses for LFI. So at the final part Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the complaint, Lisa says "This is what Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want the court to give me." She says she Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wants to be paid damages, which means all Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the money that they should have Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,received under the agreements with Glamour Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dolls - the exact amount of how much she Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be paid would be decided at trial. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then she wants to be paid back for all of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the costs and all of the expenses and the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lawyer's fees as allowed by law. She also Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wants to receive interest on any money Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,awarded to them, both before and after the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,court's decision at 18% per year and it Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looks like, you know, this happened in Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2018, it's now 2024, so that's a lot of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,freakin' interest. I'm not going to do the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,math in my brain right now because it's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physically and mentally impossible for me Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's a lot of money. And finally, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she's like "And if the court wants to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,give me something else, if you think Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's something else that's fair, feel Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,free. You can give me that too." So that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is Lisa's filing. I have lots of thoughts Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my friend. Do you have thoughts? Because Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you have thoughts, put 'em in the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comment section because I'm wondering if Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have the exact same thoughts. That's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the collective brain is all about, is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,us bouning ideas off of each other and in Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a recorded video, it's a little harder. So Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you have thoughts, definitely leave Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them in the comments. I'm gonna tell you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mine. Okay, so I have questions. [laughs] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have 3 major questions. The first one is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What was the timeline for approving the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kickstarter?" Because eventually, Lisa was Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,participating in the Kickstarter, at least Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it looks like she was participating in the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kickstarter. So I am curious what Glamour Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dolls' side of this is, in that do they Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say that they did the Kickstarter without Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking to Lisa? Because I noticed Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that was in their paperwork that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they filed. They label Kickstarter as a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business that they were trying to get to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work with, right? So it's listed in with Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ipsy and Hot Topic; they also list Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kickstarter. So it was seen by them - it Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looks like - as just another way to sell Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,products and I don't know if that was in Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the contract, that they had to clear what Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,retailers they were gonna work with with Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lisa. Where I think that Lisa may have Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them on this is that they had to use Lisa Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Frank artwork and they had to promote this Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using Lisa Frank branded stuff for the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kickstarter before it even started. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember Candy's video. I wish I could Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,show you the video - it is killing me that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this video is private and I can't show Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you the full video. But Candy clearly Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uses Lisa Frank artwork in the video to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,promote this Kickstarter. If Lisa didn't Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know about the Kickstarter, then she Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't approve the artwork to be used in Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Candy's video or any other promotional Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things that they did for the Kickstarter. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then Lisa would have them on that. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what I'm thinking most likely Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happened - I mean of course it's possible Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Glamour Dolls did talk to Lisa and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell her about the Kickstarter beforehand Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and did get all of the artwork approved Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all of that, but it sounds like Lisa Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is saying "No, that didn't happen." So Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my next question associated with that - Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's kind of a sub question to question Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,number 1 - is "When did Lisa find out Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the 10 products that they promised Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the Kickstarter backers? When did she Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,agree to that?" Because it seems like that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first contract from 2016 was really for Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those 4 products that they actually did Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,produce and put out there - the blush Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brush, the crease brush, the bronzer, and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the eyeshadows. Single eyeshadows, not Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eyeshadow palettes, the single eyeshadows. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The ones that were sold at Hot Topic. It Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is very very likely that Lisa was on board Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the Kickstarter about a month after Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Kickstarter started because in March, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they show posts that are specifically from Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lisa, participating in encouraging people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to enter these contests, to perform these Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tasks, to show their nail looks and things Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like that. Lisa is posting there. So if Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is really Lisa posting - which it Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't really make any sense to me that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it wouldn't be Lisa because Glamour Dolls Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wouldn't be able to, like, hide that from Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lisa - they would have to explain that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it doesn't really make sense to me Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that wasn't actually Lisa posting. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But she was clearly participating and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on board in March. Another clue that Lisa Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was involved in the Kickstarter from the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,launch of the Kickstarter was that just Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a few days after the launch, Glamour Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dolls posted that Lisa was going to go Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into her vault and the first 1,000 backers Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were going to get a very special gift Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from Lisa in their box when they got their Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stuff. They would get a second - what they Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called a treat - if they hit 2,000 backers Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that Lisa had something really special Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,planned if they made it to 10,000 backers. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm very curious to see if this piece Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes out in court. My second question is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Why the hell did Glamour Dolls sign this Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,terrible ass contract?" This is the most Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bull**** contract I think I have ever Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,read. It is absolutely nuts. The part that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the most unbelievable for me is that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Glamour Dolls signed this is the whole Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approval process. It is absolutely Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ridiculous. Both sides agree that this was Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the process. So they have an idea, right? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They start with the idea. Let's use the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Trapper Keeper palettes as an example. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they have an idea that they want to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,create a palette that looks like a Trapper Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Keeper. So they get this plain white Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Trapper Keeper palette made by the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,factory. Glamour Dolls then takes this Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,white packaging, this plain plastic Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,packaging that's the mock-up, send it to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lisa, wait 10 business days. If she Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't answer, they have to poke her and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get her to give feedback. If she does Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approve of it, Glamour Dolls then takes Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her ideas, whatever she wants changed, and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lets the manufacturing facility know. Then Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they get another mock-up. Then they send Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that to Lisa. They wait 10 days, they wait Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the feedback. All of that happens all Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over again until Lisa's happy. I didn't Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see anything on either said that said Lisa Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had a limit to how many changes she could Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make. So let's assume she's now approved Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the mold. Now they have to wait for Lisa Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make the artwork. Once the artwork Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes in, again, they send it over to the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,manufacturer. The manufacturer puts it on Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the product. Then Glamour Dolls has to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have two samples of it that they then send Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over to Lisa and wait those 10 business Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,days again. If she doesn't respond, then Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they poke her - same process all over Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,again, where she can either reject it or Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accept it. Do you see how this is so Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,freaking ridiculous? Because it's not even Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over then! Even after Lisa has approved Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the final designed product, when they Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,manufacture it - let's say they make Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,10,000 of them, because this did happen - Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they make 10,000 of them, they have to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,send 2 of the 10,000 to Lisa for final Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approval before they can ship those out Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to customers. And I will tell you my Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,friend, this actually happened - Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to Glamour Dolls - with the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vegan leather makeup bag. This is the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,draft picture of the vegan leather makeup Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bag that was not designed, that people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really excited about. This is the final Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,design that was supposedly "The One," the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makeup bag. Well it turns out, according Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Glamour Dolls, Lisa didn't like this Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after they had printed 10,000 of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these, Lisa said she didn't want it to be Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vegan leather anymore; she wanted it to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be glitter plastic. And because of the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sh**** ass contract that they signed, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they couldn't sell those 10,000 bags that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they had already made because she had Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,approved the sample. They had to start all Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over again with a glitter bag design. I Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean how f***ing ridiculous is this? The Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fact that Glamour Dolls signed this Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contract, did they not have a lawyer Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,read it? Like what happened? How did this Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get through? From the very jump, this Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should have just never happened and I'm Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sure Glamour Dolls in hindsight is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thinking the exact same thing. And my Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,third question is "Why would they start a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kickstarter in February, knowing that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lisa's contract was ending in December?" Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that's where they really got Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,screwed. This is what I'm thinking: I'm Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thinking Lisa designed all of the products Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and got everything going for those first Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,four products before the Kickstarter Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even started. And that was why Glamour Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dolls wanted to do more work with her. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were like "Yes, this was so smooth, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this was so easy. Let's keep this going a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little longer. We have until December, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's only February. We have all this time. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We pushed out those four products pretty Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quickly as far as getting through this Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,process, so let's do 10 more! We've got Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this." Glamour Dolls said publicly that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they didn't start having problems with Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lisa slowing down the process until June Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of 2017. So that was after the Kickstarter Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had already started, but before the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,estimated ship date that they told the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,backers of September. And it makes sense Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if they started signing the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contract in June of 2016, by February, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they had made and designed 4 products. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Assuming that Lisa was done with all of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the designs and all of the things and all Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the approvals by the time that the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kickstarter started so that's about 8 Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,months. So they're thinking "Well yeah Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this was so easy, we should be able to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,push out more products by December, by Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the time Lisa's contract ends." So now I Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shall present to you the worst case Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scenario of Lisa's a raging b****. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughter] That's where we're gonna go Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with this. This is worst case scenario Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what happened, in that Lisa knew her Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,contract was ending in December, she knew Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that she could slow down this process in Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,order to get a new contract in December Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and price gauge the hell out of Glamour Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dolls. She knew that they had already Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,promised all of these products to the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,backers. She knew that they probably Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,given her $125,000 of the backers' money. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She knew that Glamour Dolls was already Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using the backer money in order to get Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these samples and ship them to her. The Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,$370,000 that the backers had paid, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably a lot of it was already spent Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's why they started wanting - Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,needing more money. They started selling Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the products on BackerKit, they started Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,selling the crease brush on their website, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they really started courting Hot Topic to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,try to sell products over there because Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lisa was taking all of the Kickstarter Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,backers' money for herself and they were Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using it for the manufacturing of these Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,products and they knew it wasn't enough to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see this whole project through because Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remember they've got 10 products they're Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to make by December. So time Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,passes, Lisa drags this out, drags this Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out, and then drops the bomb on Glamour Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dolls: "If you want this to continue, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after all this money that you spent, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're gonna have to pay me $500,000, not Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,$100,000 anymore. It's $500,000 and you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know when you sell to Hot Topic? You're Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not gonna give me 15%, you're gonna give Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me 20%." But at that point, they were so Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,far deep in it that they couldn't get out Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of it. They absolutely couldn't get out Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of it. Another place that they probably Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spent the backers' money was on Wengie Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because remember the call that Peter did Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the backers? He mentions very Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,briefly paying for a video. I'll play that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for you. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Peter): We actually didn't make a profit Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,off of this Kickstarter campaign. I know Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's, um, it's a hard thing for people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to, um, to kind of believe with the size Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of it. But, um, we have to manufacture all Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those goods, uh, we have licensing fees Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to pay to Lisa, um, we had to pay for, you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know, uh, for production of the video and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for all these different things. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Jen) I don't know this for a fact but Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think he took the money from the backers Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and paid Wengie to make that video. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who knows how much he paid her because Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,influencer rates back then, you know, it Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was brand new, you know, influencers Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting paid for sponsored videos and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things like that. I have no idea how much Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they paid Wengie but I would imagine that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was part of where the money was going and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why they needed to raise more money. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because now in December, they not only Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to get all of these 10 products Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,manufactured but they also have to pay Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lisa this $500,000. Lisa officially had Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Glamour Dolls by the unicorn balls. I mean Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, she was-she had them. They had no Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,choice, in my opinion,