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Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text
Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.74,0:00:03.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.53,0:00:19.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- As a child, my parents had reproductions
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.58,0:00:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in their house,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.48,0:00:23.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some of them were really corny.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.75,0:00:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(hole puncher snipping)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.75,0:00:27.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.93,0:00:30.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in the guest room, they hung
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.54,0:00:33.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a textured painting by Van Gogh.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.62,0:00:41.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I scrambled up on the\Nchair and I touched it.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.92,0:00:46.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what stuck to me,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.05,0:00:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that painting would have\Na kind of texture to it.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.14,0:00:51.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.45,0:00:53.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's almost a kind of exhilaration.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.47,0:00:57.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The process of being an artist
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.45,0:00:59.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I find very fulfilling.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.21,0:01:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel a sense of freedom.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.70,0:01:05.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.36,0:01:16.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The templates are on the wall.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.95,0:01:19.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's great, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.23,0:01:20.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We're decorating the rooms.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.07,0:01:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh, I like that, I like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.48,0:01:23.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Howardena laughing)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.31,0:01:26.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you wanna put some\Nshapes on this one?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.22,0:01:28.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Mm-hm, let's see, that way?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.65,0:01:30.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like that way.\N- Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.35,0:01:32.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or that way?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.21,0:01:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I kind of like this.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.82,0:01:36.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Erin] You kind of like that?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.75,0:01:39.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah, 'cause I'm very,\NI love this wiggly thing,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.38,0:01:43.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm tempted to put a shape like this,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.95,0:01:46.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but without that change there
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.56,0:01:48.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on this edge, in here.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.58,0:01:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Erin] Oh, okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.76,0:01:52.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- My intention is that it\Nwould pull over into this.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.38,0:01:53.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Gotcha, yeah, okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.82,0:01:54.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And then with this,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.28,0:01:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I would like to put that up.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.98,0:01:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Erin] Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.81,0:02:02.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- 'Cause I really want that\Ndark to come through something.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.23,0:02:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Erin] Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.20,0:02:07.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I see abstraction as\Nan intuitive expression
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.29,0:02:12.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of someone's experience,\Nboth good and both bad.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.18,0:02:14.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At least you get the general idea.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.90,0:02:17.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's see.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.17,0:02:19.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.38,0:02:20.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you work with abstraction,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.67,0:02:24.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're working with your own\Nintuitive feelings about space,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.09,0:02:25.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,color, line, shape.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.78,0:02:30.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Its purpose is almost a way of opening up
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.42,0:02:32.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our thought process,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.86,0:02:37.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you're reading\Nsomeone else's language
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.83,0:02:40.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're interpreting it\Nthrough your own language.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.91,0:02:46.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you wanna do a painting\Nthat was a dimensional?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.89,0:02:50.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you wanna do a painting\Nthat was about numbers?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.69,0:02:53.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I felt challenged by that.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.58,0:02:59.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The circular format is a\Nkind of internal gravity.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.01,0:03:04.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's so compact and you can make something
Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.47,0:03:06.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has a lot of tension in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.40,0:03:10.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an iconic form in nature.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.37,0:03:13.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I could look at\Nthe planets, the stars,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.77,0:03:16.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the moon, molecules,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.37,0:03:18.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's all around us.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.77,0:03:20.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.94,0:03:23.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm fascinated by the circle.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.10,0:03:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.17,0:03:27.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so back in the early seventies,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.84,0:03:30.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started spraying\Ndots, through templates,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.33,0:03:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I made by punching out file folders,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.58,0:03:39.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I would spray through the template.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.23,0:03:41.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.26,0:03:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(paint spraying)
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.01,0:03:46.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I make the basic drawings\Nfor the spray paintings.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.29,0:03:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The studio manager, Erin,\Nhandles the spray equipment.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.18,0:03:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.39,0:04:00.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father was a science math person,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.57,0:04:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I don't remember\Ngetting a doll at Christmas,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.84,0:04:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I was given a microscope.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.30,0:04:07.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was very curious,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.65,0:04:11.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I used a dropper to put\Nsome drinking water on a slide
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.22,0:04:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and looked under the microscope
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.72,0:04:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there were all these\Nmicrobes swimming around
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.12,0:04:16.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the drinking water.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.83,0:04:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was all kind of at\Nrandom, they were just all over.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.10,0:04:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.36,0:04:23.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was like drama 'cause\Nthings would collide
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.82,0:04:26.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or move around, or they\Nwouldn't run into each other.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.67,0:04:29.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was no particular reason
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.97,0:04:32.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other than they were just in water.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.46,0:04:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that microscope made a difference
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.82,0:04:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I saw things in motion at random.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.56,0:04:41.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.07,0:04:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh my Lord.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.60,0:04:54.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh my God, Virgil.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.86,0:04:57.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here I am with Nancy.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.96,0:04:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know how old I was.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.57,0:05:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, this is amazing,\Nit's my parents' house
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.70,0:05:04.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on Wayne Avenue in Philadelphia.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.97,0:05:07.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's incredible.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.08,0:05:12.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my father.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.06,0:05:13.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,57.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.65,0:05:14.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He loved reading.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.53,0:05:18.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,April 14th, my birthday.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.78,0:05:23.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(pictures rustling)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.19,0:05:25.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh God, it's really interesting, that's,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.08,0:05:28.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my grandmother's house.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.00,0:05:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, this is in Hamilton,\NOhio, which is southern Ohio.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.62,0:05:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my grandmother had a\Nlittle bit of land and a house,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.27,0:05:40.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she grew her own food.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.72,0:05:45.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't know if there were\Ngrocery stores in Hamilton.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.42,0:05:48.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.74,0:05:53.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was triggered in terms\Nof my memory of circles.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.12,0:06:02.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My parents and I went to Ohio\Nto visit my mother's mother.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.22,0:06:07.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We drove to Northern Kentucky
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.29,0:06:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there was a root beer stand,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.54,0:06:11.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my father liked root beer,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.72,0:06:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we were given chilled mugs\Nthe same as everyone else,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.36,0:06:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except there was a big\Nred circle on the bottom.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.00,0:06:26.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that basically meant that
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.13,0:06:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these were the utensils that\Nyou used for non-whites.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.22,0:06:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.97,0:06:37.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that kind of shocked me.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.37,0:06:44.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For years, I keep noticing circles.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.37,0:06:49.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, just the shock of seeing that.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.24,0:06:52.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.21,0:07:13.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like drawing numbers, but I have no idea
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.74,0:07:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what meaning they have.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.89,0:07:19.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I call them nonsense numbers.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.54,0:07:24.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It came from seeing my\Nfather write numbers
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.66,0:07:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a mathematician.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.81,0:07:31.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think they're beautiful,\Nbeautiful things to see.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.35,0:07:33.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an essential part of our life.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.81,0:07:36.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's almost like our heart.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.03,0:07:38.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Without our heart, we have no life,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.83,0:07:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where everything's numbers.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.30,0:07:45.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.41,0:08:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You feel good with your dot colors?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.42,0:08:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh yeah, I love it,\NI love this pea soup.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.28,0:08:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(people talking simultaneously)
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.83,0:08:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Howardena, you used to\Nhandpunch all of your dots.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.94,0:08:31.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- With one single hole punch.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.97,0:08:35.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Howardena laughing)
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.94,0:08:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my third year at Dieu Donné.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.92,0:08:38.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Woman] This is your third year?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.100,0:08:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Third yeah, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.96,0:08:41.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Woman] Over a hundred pieces?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.18,0:08:43.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Hundred pieces, yeah, yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.85,0:08:47.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I looked at a sample of colors
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.97,0:08:51.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I like this, I call\Nit like pea soup green.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.68,0:08:52.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(everyone laughing)
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.51,0:08:54.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then with the purple blue,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.15,0:08:57.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it goes from like dark to light.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.12,0:08:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like the gradation.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.08,0:09:02.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- This might be silly question,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.73,0:09:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but how Howardena, did you ever think
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.80,0:09:06.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you would be this big?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.35,0:09:08.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Are you kidding?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.51,0:09:10.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't even believe it.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.01,0:09:11.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't believe it now.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.17,0:09:16.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, when Amy sent that\Ntext to me about Hong Kong.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.82,0:09:19.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was like, oh my God.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.94,0:09:22.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Howardena laughing)
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.75,0:09:23.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.61,0:09:26.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's almost like it's too late.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.49,0:09:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It sounds strange, but,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.80,0:09:33.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I would've appreciated it,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.65,0:09:36.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess when I was younger,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.91,0:09:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I felt isolated.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.38,0:09:48.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At that point I didn't have a dealer.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.24,0:09:54.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of the rejections would\Nbe from white collectors.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.33,0:09:57.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why should I buy an abstract\Nwork from a Black person
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.51,0:09:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I can get it from a white person?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.20,0:10:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what Black\Nartists were running into.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.49,0:10:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I worked at the Museum of\NModern Art for about 12 years.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.56,0:10:12.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was mainly white and male.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.97,0:10:16.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hostile questions too were coming from
Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.95,0:10:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of the women art historians.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.83,0:10:23.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What did I do to qualify\Nfor my job at the Modern?"
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.40,0:10:28.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You know, you really must be paranoid.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.71,0:10:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those things never happened to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.24,0:10:33.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know anyone who's had\Nthose things happen to them.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.65,0:10:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then of course, they're\Nfree, white, and 21,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.72,0:10:39.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they wouldn't have\Nthat kind of experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.66,0:10:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Free, White, and 21 was a\Nvideo piece that I did in 1980,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.46,0:10:47.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was around the\Ntime when I had resigned
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.13,0:10:48.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from my job at the Modern.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.47,0:10:51.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- However, she felt that a white student
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.63,0:10:53.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with lower grades would go further,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.88,0:10:57.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,therefore she would not put\Nme in the accelerated course.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.06,0:10:59.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well, I was kind of annoyed\Nat the white women's movement,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.49,0:11:01.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I also wanted to deal\Nwith some of the racist stuff
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.53,0:11:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the art world.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.12,0:11:06.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I decided to be myself
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.21,0:11:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then to dress myself up as\Na white woman criticizing me.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.56,0:11:11.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You know, I hear your experiences
Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.97,0:11:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think, well, it's\Ngotta be in her art.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.88,0:11:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the only way we'll validate you.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.32,0:11:17.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's gotta be in your art in the way
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.79,0:11:19.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we consider valid.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.40,0:11:23.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it isn't in a, you know, used in a way,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.01,0:11:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if your symbols aren't used in\Na way that we use them, then,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.94,0:11:28.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we won't acknowledge them.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.99,0:11:31.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, you won't exist\Nuntil we validate you.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.71,0:11:35.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, you know, if you don't\Nwanna do what we tell you to do,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.01,0:11:36.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we'll find other tokens.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.90,0:11:39.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And I just did this narrative
Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.18,0:11:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it goes back and\Nforth, and at the end,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.32,0:11:45.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I pull off like I'm pulling off my skin,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.83,0:11:49.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's almost like I'm\Npulling off another layer.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.41,0:11:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was first shown in a show Ana Mendieta
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.60,0:11:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I put together at A.I.R.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.60,0:11:59.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was way in the back and\NI had a little metronome
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.82,0:12:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it would tick as you watch the video,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.05,0:12:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the whites freaked out.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.96,0:12:08.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They went wild.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.70,0:12:10.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were not happy with it.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.70,0:12:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's been shown in Berlin,\NScotland, and Ireland,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.36,0:12:17.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Modern had it on view for a while,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.91,0:12:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is kind of ironic.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.82,0:12:20.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Howardena giggling)
Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.65,0:12:21.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well, you ungrateful little,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.87,0:12:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after all we've done for you.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.30,0:12:26.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.43,0:12:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Even though early on, my\Nwork faced a lot of rejection,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.74,0:12:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just kept going.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.92,0:12:36.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just didn't give up.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.75,0:12:38.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I just kept pushing
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.79,0:12:41.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the work matured in spite\Nof a hostile environment.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.59,0:12:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was used to the work\Nbeing rejected or mocked.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.34,0:12:50.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it's an irony it's\Nthe same work I'm showing now.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.97,0:12:52.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Literally, some of them\Nare the same pieces
Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.71,0:12:54.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's the opposite reaction.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.78,0:12:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)
Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.01,0:13:30.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I seem to have more inhibiting\Nphysical boundaries,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.45,0:13:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the art side of me is still there.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.35,0:13:38.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I can step out of my\Nown restricted container
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.28,0:13:40.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and be able to express what I feel,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.97,0:13:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether I'm limited physically or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.34,0:13:50.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a life source for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.31,0:13:56.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just, I don't get\Ntired of being an artist.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.25,0:13:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I get tired of other things,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.56,0:14:02.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but then I feel like I can\Ncome here and make art.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.08,0:14:07.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's not born of\Nexpecting recognition,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.34,0:14:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just doing my work.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.94,0:14:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(calm music)